LG 112 Pseudocycle Four unCAPTCHAble

[Through the living Wahr He/Him]

LG112 - Pseudocycle Four: unCAPTCHAble

The Unknown Player stared at the interrogation. Myst was sent CAPTCHA after CAPTCHA, and passed every one. Impossible. They had lied, they had to be a Roleplay Character.

There was one more CAPTCHA, the hardest of them all: rotate the dog until it's properly oriented. 

Somehow, Myst passed.

~

These… entities were getting on Al's nerves. First the Unseen Deity had sat by and done little, and that had been fine, but then they had started sabotaging his efforts. They had harried his steps wherever he went. That rusting Shard, Preservation, had stopped his plans. Well, he had gotten the information he needed at least. He may have failed to influence the outcome of the game, but he had what he needed to threaten the players beyond.

He ran out of the meeting place, Preservation following at his heels. The Shard was trying to destroy him, but his own power was stopping him. He would soon overcome it though.

Al needed to run. He looked up at the sky. “Beam me up, TUC!”

There was a flash, and Tin Al Capone returned to the outside world once more.

The Unknown Deity sighed. To the Unseen Deity he said, “Isn't that better? Finally, peace and quiet.”

~

TJ has Died! They were a PseudoIM SE Player

Myst has been executed! They were a vanilla SE Player.

Votecount:

Myst (8): Myst, Qian, Striker, Kit Kat, Araris, coco, TJ, CadCom

Coco (3): Slayerman, Ver, Star

 

This cycle will end on Wednesday the 10th of June at 11:00 AM Central Time. 

Twinstorm has been replaced with Divergent! Please welcome them.

Players:

Spoiler

• @coco.pudding as Coco Village Coinshot 
• @Through The Living Star as Star
• @CoderDrag0n8 as Coder Village Coinshot, SE Player Retiree
• @Myst as Mistake  Village Coinshot, SE Player Vanilla
• @StrikerEZ as Striker
• @Qianweilian as Qianweilian 
• @Through the Living Hopper as Hopper SE Player Roleplayer
• @CadCom as Cam
• @Verdance as Verdance  Village Tineye
• @TwinStorm as TwinStorm -> replaced by @Divergent
• @Hoid Slayer as Hoid Slayer Elim Coinshot 
• @___ as Mippo
• @xinoehp512 as Xinoehp512 Elim Coinshot 
• @Araris Valerian as Araris Valerian 
• @|TJ| as TJ SE Player PseudoIM
• @Kit_Kat as Kit Kat
• @Questioning Lettuce as Questioning Lettuce
• @Miss Fallen SE Player Thread Controller

 

[Myst He/Him]

The write up is great btw, thanks TUM for keeping it

Also, I assume we’re killing off the pseudo Elim team now?

Not TJ yet, so probably Lettuce or their 5th member 

edit: also welcome Dive

Edited 7 hours ago by Myst

[Divergent He/Him]

Hiii

Was thinking of getting caught up with the game before I would be subbing in, but time got away from me 

I'm about to head to sleep shortly, will catch up when I wake up, but would also like to know what's been going on so far from everyone else's POV 

[Hoid Slayer He/Him]

Okay can we please kill Coco now?

Edited cause I forgot I couldn’t vote  

Edited 6 hours ago by Hoid Slayer

[Through The Living Star She/Her]

1 minute ago, Hoid Slayer said:

Okay can we please kill Coco now?

Uh, coco's already dead in the psuedocycle. 

[Through the living Wahr He/Him]

2 minutes ago, Hoid Slayer said:

Okay can we please kill Coco now?

Edited cause I forgot I couldn’t vote  

This is a Pseudocycle Coco was already killed in the Pseudogame

Ninja'd

Edited 6 hours ago by Through the living Wahr

[CadCom he/him]

3 minutes ago, Divergent said:

Hiii

Was thinking of getting caught up with the game before I would be subbing in, but time got away from me 

I'm about to head to sleep shortly, will catch up when I wake up, but would also like to know what's been going on so far from everyone else's POV 

I agreed last cycle that I would make a fairly detailed analysis today (from my perspective) I'll try to include a more neutral summary in it. Working on it now. No promises it happens Today, but for sure this cycle. 

[Myst He/Him]

My very bad summary as follows:

we have 4 meta elims

the meta Elims bet on a pseudo Elim victory 

Coco, Kit Kat, and Ver are 3/4 of the meta Elims. We don’t know who the 4th is yet

The Elim role composition includes a GM, a thread controller, a retiree, and an unknown role.

[Qianweilian He/him]

6 minutes ago, Myst said:

My very bad summary as follows:

we have 4 meta elims

the meta Elims bet on a pseudo Elim victory 

Coco, Kit Kat, and Ver are 3/4 of the meta Elims. We don’t know who the 4th is yet

The Elim role composition includes a GM, a thread controller, a retiree, and an unknown role.

Okay, so you're hard cleared, so I'm inclined to trust this. Who are the other pseudo elims?

[Myst He/Him]

27 minutes ago, Qianweilian said:

Okay, so you're hard cleared, so I'm inclined to trust this. Who are the other pseudo elims?

I only know of TJ and Lettuce, idk the 5th.

Also:

Cleared =/= right, so take what I say with a grain of salt

[StrikerEZ he/him]

1 hour ago, Qianweilian said:

Okay, so you're hard cleared, so I'm inclined to trust this. Who are the other pseudo elims?

Confirmed good != confirmed right

Oh hey Myst already said that. Neat.

[CadCom he/him]

I’m not going to focus on the People analysis as much, at least at the beginning, more the public results of what happened. Maybe a bit of what information was shared in the thread.
PC1:
Xino was Killed. Action later claimed by Myst Flipped PE
Coder Dragon Exed: Myst, Hoid, Xino. Flipped PV

MC1
Coder Exed:Hoid, Coco, Myst, Mippo, Flipped MV Retiree
Mis Fallen was Killed: Thread Controller

PC2
Tineye message that Striker is collecting Investiture
Myst Exed: (Qian, TJ, Araris, Hopper, Coco.) PV coinshot
Verd was Killed PV Tineye
PMs are still open, so There is at least one other PTineye.

MC2 
Hopper was killed MV Roleplayer
No Exe, as we didn’t reach the threshold due to vote manip. (5)
Myst had 4 votes, Qian, CadCom, Araris, TJ, Mippo. Those that didn’t vote for myst were Myst, Hopper, Hoid, Kit Kat, Verdance, Striker. Xino also had 4 votes Hoid, Myst, KitKat. 

PC3 
It was revealed during the day’s discussion that both Hoid and Coco had role changes making them Coinshots. 
Hoidslayer was exed.(Coco, Striker, Araris, Kit Kat) PE Coinshot 
Coco died PV coinshot. 

MC3
TJ died. MV PseudoIM
Myst Exed, (Myst, Qian, Striker, KitKat, Araris, coco, TJ, CadCom) Vanilla MV

A bit of analysis surrounding my Summary: I still have icky feelings about the failed exe on Myst on MC2, so that’s where I’m going to go first with my analysis. 

So I want to look at the progression of votes in that cycle now. Especially since we know that Myst is MV. 

Quian votes Myst 
Hopper votes Striker
CadCom votes Myst
Araris votes Myst
TJ votes Myst
Hoid votes Xino
Myst votes Xino
Striker votes Myst
Mippo votes Myst 
Kit_Kat  votes Xino
Verdance votes Verdance
Striker Moves to Verdance

My thoughts here are that immediately, Striker is the most suspicious, as their vote single-handedly saved Myst, dragging out the apparently inevitable for an additional cycle, keeping us from moving on to other targets. In addition to that, they reportedly have collected a large amount of investiture or engineered a large amount of investiture to coalesce in someone else. It feels very fishy to me. 

So on the next Metacycle, I think a Striker @StrikerEZexe is a good option to consider. I’m torn on whether it’s beneficial for the pseudocycle. Feel free to PM me if you want my thoughts there, just know I'm still working them out. Because I'm not certain how I feel about that vote, it's more to stimulate discussion, and it's highly possible I change it as new information is presented to me. 
 

Edited 4 hours ago by CadCom

[Verdance he/him]

1 minute ago, CadCom said:

I’m not going to focus on the People analysis as much, at least at the beginning, more the public results of what happened. Maybe a bit of what information was shared in the thread.
PC1:
Xino was Killed. Action later claimed by Myst Flipped PE
Coder Dragon Exed: Myst, Hoid, Xino. Flipped PV

MC1
Coder Exed:Hoid, Coco, Myst, Mippo, Flipped MV Retiree
Mis Fallen was Killed: Thread Controller

PC2
Tineye message that Striker is collecting Investiture
Myst Exed: (Qian, TJ, Araris, Hopper, Coco.) PV coinshot
Verd was Killed PV Tineye
PMs are still open, so There is at least one other PTineye.

MC2 
Hopper was killed MV Roleplayer
No Exe, as we didn’t reach the threshold due to vote manip. (5)
Myst had 4 votes, Qian, CadCom, Araris, TJ, Mippo. Those that didn’t vote for myst were Myst, Hopper, Hoid, Kit Kat, Verdance, Striker. Xino also had 4 votes Hoid, Myst, KitKat. 

PC3 
It was revealed during the day’s discussion that both Hoid and Coco had role changes making them Coinshots. 
Hoidslayer was exed.(Coco, Striker, Araris, Kit Kat) PE Coinshot 
Coco died PV coinshot. 

MC3
TJ died. MV PseudoIM
Myst Exed, (Myst, Qian, Striker, KitKat, Araris, coco, TJ, CadCom) Vanilla MV

A bit of analysis surrounding my Summary: I still have icky feelings about the failed exe on Myst on MC2, so that’s where I’m going to go first with my analysis. 

So I want to look at the progression of votes in that cycle now. Especially since we know that Myst is MV. 

Quian votes Myst 
Hopper votes Striker
CadCom votes Myst
Araris votes Myst
TJ votes Myst
Hoid votes Xino
Myst votes Xino
Striker votes Myst
Mippo votes Myst 
Kit_Kat  votes Xino
Verdance votes Verdance
Striker Moves to Verdance

My thoughts here are that immediately, Striker is the most suspicious, as their vote single-handedly saved Myst, dragging out the apparently inevitable for an additional cycle, keeping us from moving on to other targets. In addition to that, they reportedly have collected a large amount of investiture or engineered a large amount of investiture to coalesce in someone else. It feels very fishy to me. 

So on the next Metacycle, I think a Striker @StrikerEZexe is a good option to consider. I’m torn on whether it’s beneficial for the pseudocycle. Feel free to PM me if you want my thoughts there, just know I'm still working them out. Because I'm not certain how I feel about that vote, it's more to stimulate discussion, and it's highly possible I change it as new information is presented to me. 
 

Striker moving to add to my VC last minute is kind of odd, as if he expected the fact that i am suspicious to compound and get me voted out instead of Myst or Xino

he’s still one of my top suspects 

[|TJ| he/him]

2 hours ago, Myst said:

the meta Elims bet on a pseudo Elim victory 

I still don't know why you think so, could you restate your reasoning? 

[CadCom he/him]

14 minutes ago, Verdance said:

Striker moving to add to my VC last minute is kind of odd, as if he expected the fact that i am suspicious to compound and get me voted out instead of Myst or Xino

To be fair, it was 8 or 9 hours before rollover, It just so happened that it was at a time with little activity after it, and after the group had largely already come to a consensus on Myst. I was still hesitant myself, but joined along in favor of not allowing vote manipulations to ruin our attempt at intel. But that's what happened anyways. 

9 minutes ago, |TJ| said:

I still don't know why you think so, could you restate your reasoning? 

I think it's based off the reasoning that Myst feels no one is going after elims. I think the argument is valid. I just don't know if I fully believe it. We lynched Hoid last cycle, and Striker, one of the people I suspect of being evil was one of the people that voted. If they had moved their vote to Coco, it would have been 3/2, within the realm of reasonable for a vote manip to affect the results. 

But We should also address Coco's role change and subsequent Pseudo-death. The way I see it, we can break it into 4 scenarios
1: Coco is Meta Elim, Meta Elims want Village Win
2: Coco is Meta Elim, Meta Elims want Elim win
3. Coco is Meta Village, Meta Elims want Village win
4. Coco is Meta Village, Meta Elims want Elim win. 

I keep trying to do analysis on each of these 4 scenarios but just end up going into circular logic that I don't like. Does someone else want to give it a go, and I'll tell you if I like it? 

[StrikerEZ he/him]

Yeah that vote was not my best, and I don’t really have a response for it tbh

[CadCom he/him]

4 hours ago, Myst said:

My very bad summary as follows:

we have 4 meta elims

the meta Elims bet on a pseudo Elim victory 

Coco, Kit Kat, and Ver are 3/4 of the meta Elims. We don’t know who the 4th is yet

The Elim role composition includes a GM, a thread controller, a retiree, and an unknown role.

Can you remind me why you're suspicious of Coco, and Kit Kat? I remember Verdance.

Coco was largely because they rolechanged into a coinshot IIRC, but what made Coco more suspicious than Hoid in that situation, who also became a coinshot in apparently the same turn?

[Myst He/Him]

5 minutes ago, CadCom said:

Can you remind me why you're suspicious of Coco, and Kit Kat? I remember Verdance.

Coco was largely because they rolechanged into a coinshot IIRC, but what made Coco more suspicious than Hoid in that situation, who also became a coinshot in apparently the same turn?

Kit Kat because she was the thread controller who saved me and made it so we didn’t exe Xino or Me.

Coco over Hoid mostly based on PMs, the fact that he was willing to be pocketed by me, he was willing to share information, etc