Amanuensis he/him Posted February 23 Author Posted February 23 I'm going through to do activity counts. From this point on, I am no longer going to allow bucket overflows, as I think we're deep enough into both discussion and RP to warrant 5 rupees per category. Also because it's easier to just stop at 5 when some of y'all already have 10+ discussion posts  approximately 3 hours and 50 minutes remain in the day to vote and submit actions (including PMs).
Doc12 Posted February 23 Posted February 23 Storms you guys talked a lot. I spent literally more than an hour just combing through today's thread and trying to take notes along the way. Here's what I got. (Warning, HUGE POST) Spoiler Wonko: protests the argument his info was more helpful for the Elims than the Village (1) Mistfallen: votes wonko. (1?) Araris: Votes wonko, lack of direction behind posts. (1) Wonko votes Archer re: request to be exed Hoid: RP Archer: RP CD: RP Hoid: RP Coco: thinks skipped kill means elims are trying to win the loop. shares doubts about Wonko and Archer - more suspicious of Archer Araris: RP CD: RP, votes Archer per request to be exed  Coco: RP Archer: Reads list. thinks elims plan to win loop, which now claims is the better strategy. Tracking rupee accumulation, thinks elims are more likely to try for rupees. Looking at people who post more than usual and rp. Points at Wahr, Burnt, CD, and me for fitting the profile, while Araris and Hoid are explicitly village read. Votes Wahr for saying NK was skippable d1. CD: asks why Archer is v confirmed Divergent: floats possibility of Bremen mask. votes Wonko because Wonko might have helped elim strategy progress more quickly. Coco: is tracking rupees. doesn't think rupee tracking is alignment indicative, but rp inclination might be. Doesn't have a baseline for Wahr. Araris: likes Archer's post but disagrees with activity-based and RP reads. Burnt: wants to exe elims but mindful of who to put in dead doc. Says Wonko Archer aren't bad choices if they are confirmed good, floats ideas for trust circles like herself, Mistfallen, me, Araris, Hael. Wants focus on who we exe to dead doc out of potential evil options. Mistfallen: asks why Archer discuss elims strategy in thread, thinks elims have committed to winning loop 1. Dive: musings on post count and rupee accumulation. Mistfallen: Suggests me as PM person to exe for dead doc. Does not want to be exed today CD: wants to be in a trust circle Mistfallen: RP Wahr: Defends trying to get max rupees. Votes Archer back. Defends thinking the NK was skippable. Mistfallen: RP Ashbringer: RP Me!: I didn't like how the discussion was just on Wonko/Archer and how we might be exeing people we trust to be in dead doc rather than people we didn't trust Archer: elims are more motivated to break from usual playstyle. Should focus on pressure voting today not for trust. Claims elim strat discussion was try to get them to freeze. Still is suspicious of Wahr but backs off to TUM based on RP. Wahr: rescinds vote on Archer CD: losing loop might be good for village, wants to get voted out Mistfallen: elim team= Wonko, HG, Burnt, TUM Hoid: does't like Archer's tone. Says not paying full attention to game. CD: RP Wonko: Admits that sharing thoughts might be mistake. Doesn't think its alignment indicative. Thinks Archer is best villager to kill, willing to be exed too. Thinks elim team did pivot in response to his and archers discussion, still suspects archer. doesn't like Wahr's vote on Archer. kind of likes CD's post, thinks dead doc might not be secure. Dive: Agrees that shouldn't focus on just Wonko Archer, agrees with mistfallen that HG might be elim. floats idea that Wonko's posts were perspective slip or that Wonko wants us to be suspicious of NK people. Asks Wonko thoughts on postman. CD: I am neutral to being exed, want to be hard cleared. Archer: responds to a lot of people. main thing im taking away is saying dead doc members could create code for private communication. TJ: Present Mistfallen: mask discussion. Hoid: Votes Archer Mistfallen: TUM is acting like last time they were elim, which is to lie low while others do thread control. Burnt has been doing RP and not committing to analysis. Won't know we have trust circle until end of loop, also be aware of captain's hat. Should be trying for elims not trust circle. Wahr: Votes Ashbringer for only RP. Hoid: Agrees with Mistfallen on dead doc security Mistfallen: Thinks Wahr's vote is overreaction. Retaliation votes are elim indicative. Coco: Trust circle makes sense, but won't know til next loop on trustworthiness. Agrees on captains hat. vote for elim. Hoid: if elims play this right no solid way to clear anyone. Archer: mostly RP,can't buy masks anymore Mistfallen: Don't like the above post. Coco: Responding to Archer's post Mistfallen: Cryptic Hoid: faces Mistfallen: more cryptic, might be claiming mask Archer: Derp clears: light village - mistfallen, honor's ghost, CD elims wouldn't say that - coco, Wahr, me situational: dive, wonko POE, votes Burnt Ashbringer: busy Wonko: ciphers against rules. why is mistfallen being cryptic. Wahr's vote is weird. thinks decision to skip nk was in response to discussion. claims inactive for n1, asks ash when elims made choice to skip nk Archer: cryptic Mistfallen: cryptic Burnt: reads list Evil lean: TUO Neutral: Ash, Hael, me, CD Village lean: coco, wonko, mistfallen, Dive, archer, wahr, araris, inactive: TJ, hoid, hg recommends exeing lower activity later. agrees that exeing for trust is next day. wary of low activity, asks questions to GM Ash: thinks elims chose to skip NK haflway through the night, or earlier if more active.thinks throwing the loop si a little backwards? CD: some responses. Archer: Thinks Burnt's reads list resembles his, changes vote to Araris. Misfallen: Cryptic Hael: RP Mistfallen: RP Coco: Vote count, asks why archer votes Araris. village reads are mistfallen, dive, wahr, wonko, maybe archer. CD: RP Mistfallen RP Coco: RP Ash: RP Dive: wants TUM to pitch in more, wary of clearing Mistfallen Mistfallen: agrees Araris: rescinds vote on Wonko Dive: agrees on not exeing inactives til loop 2. asks coco who they're voting and what mistfallen means by trying deepwolfing Mistfallen: reminisces about last game (good game for me) Dive: thinks mistfallen is village, asks about TUM more Mistfallen: wants to wait for more from TUM Burnt: RP Hoid: present Archer: Votes HG Wahr: rescinds vote on Ash. goes through Archer's vote jumps. CD: RP Me: present, just busy Archer: Voting based on POE Araris: votes Wahr because he thought Wahr was accusing him of voting without reason War: explains Araris: ok still leave vote there for now. thoughts on reasoning that elims are unlikely to skip nk if they're under suspicion? Wahr: you can rescind your vote. fire wasn't serious and skipped nk might hae divert attention from archer.wonko, or still plan to exe villager Stick: hi Archer: votes stick Stick and Wahr: rude Archer: switches to Hael. Mistfallen: switches to Wahr for defensiveness Wahr: why Stick: questions Araris: asks whar who he thinks are E archer teammates Mistfallen: still thinks wahr is e based on retaliation vote and vote on ashbringer Coco: votes Wahr based on weird moves. Stick: votes CD for seeming too eager to be seen as villlage Wahr: thinks e!archer teammates may be me or dive. votes Mistfallen, admits it might be because of aggression towards wahr. defense self. Araris: vote's staying Dive: Town leans Araris, Coco, Mist, Hael, Archer, Burnt ok with voting: wonko, wahr, cd, doc low activity: ash, tj, hoid, stick, tum archer's vote jumping is reminiscent of last game. says Wahr claiming dive and me are potential teammates is hypocritical Mistfallen: wahr's not helping their case. Hoid: Rescinding my vote. Coco: Archer's vote jumping seems more reasonable this game. Going for masks in NAI Mist:I see Wahr lurking Hael: some thoughts on alignment indications to look for, not sure if theres anything there yet. Hoid: Chaos. Now to actually analyze this 1
Myst He/Him Posted February 23 Posted February 23 8 minutes ago, Doc12 said: Storms you guys talked a lot. I spent literally more than an hour just combing through today's thread and trying to take notes along the way. Here's what I got. (Warning, HUGE POST)  Hide contents Wonko: protests the argument his info was more helpful for the Elims than the Village (1) Mistfallen: votes wonko. (1?) Araris: Votes wonko, lack of direction behind posts. (1) Wonko votes Archer re: request to be exed Hoid: RP Archer: RP CD: RP Hoid: RP Coco: thinks skipped kill means elims are trying to win the loop. shares doubts about Wonko and Archer - more suspicious of Archer Araris: RP CD: RP, votes Archer per request to be exed  Coco: RP Archer: Reads list. thinks elims plan to win loop, which now claims is the better strategy. Tracking rupee accumulation, thinks elims are more likely to try for rupees. Looking at people who post more than usual and rp. Points at Wahr, Burnt, CD, and me for fitting the profile, while Araris and Hoid are explicitly village read. Votes Wahr for saying NK was skippable d1. CD: asks why Archer is v confirmed Divergent: floats possibility of Bremen mask. votes Wonko because Wonko might have helped elim strategy progress more quickly. Coco: is tracking rupees. doesn't think rupee tracking is alignment indicative, but rp inclination might be. Doesn't have a baseline for Wahr. Araris: likes Archer's post but disagrees with activity-based and RP reads. Burnt: wants to exe elims but mindful of who to put in dead doc. Says Wonko Archer aren't bad choices if they are confirmed good, floats ideas for trust circles like herself, Mistfallen, me, Araris, Hael. Wants focus on who we exe to dead doc out of potential evil options. Mistfallen: asks why Archer discuss elims strategy in thread, thinks elims have committed to winning loop 1. Dive: musings on post count and rupee accumulation. Mistfallen: Suggests me as PM person to exe for dead doc. Does not want to be exed today CD: wants to be in a trust circle Mistfallen: RP Wahr: Defends trying to get max rupees. Votes Archer back. Defends thinking the NK was skippable. Mistfallen: RP Ashbringer: RP Me!: I didn't like how the discussion was just on Wonko/Archer and how we might be exeing people we trust to be in dead doc rather than people we didn't trust Archer: elims are more motivated to break from usual playstyle. Should focus on pressure voting today not for trust. Claims elim strat discussion was try to get them to freeze. Still is suspicious of Wahr but backs off to TUM based on RP. Wahr: rescinds vote on Archer CD: losing loop might be good for village, wants to get voted out Mistfallen: elim team= Wonko, HG, Burnt, TUM Hoid: does't like Archer's tone. Says not paying full attention to game. CD: RP Wonko: Admits that sharing thoughts might be mistake. Doesn't think its alignment indicative. Thinks Archer is best villager to kill, willing to be exed too. Thinks elim team did pivot in response to his and archers discussion, still suspects archer. doesn't like Wahr's vote on Archer. kind of likes CD's post, thinks dead doc might not be secure. Dive: Agrees that shouldn't focus on just Wonko Archer, agrees with mistfallen that HG might be elim. floats idea that Wonko's posts were perspective slip or that Wonko wants us to be suspicious of NK people. Asks Wonko thoughts on postman. CD: I am neutral to being exed, want to be hard cleared. Archer: responds to a lot of people. main thing im taking away is saying dead doc members could create code for private communication. TJ: Present Mistfallen: mask discussion. Hoid: Votes Archer Mistfallen: TUM is acting like last time they were elim, which is to lie low while others do thread control. Burnt has been doing RP and not committing to analysis. Won't know we have trust circle until end of loop, also be aware of captain's hat. Should be trying for elims not trust circle. Wahr: Votes Ashbringer for only RP. Hoid: Agrees with Mistfallen on dead doc security Mistfallen: Thinks Wahr's vote is overreaction. Retaliation votes are elim indicative. Coco: Trust circle makes sense, but won't know til next loop on trustworthiness. Agrees on captains hat. vote for elim. Hoid: if elims play this right no solid way to clear anyone. Archer: mostly RP,can't buy masks anymore Mistfallen: Don't like the above post. Coco: Responding to Archer's post Mistfallen: Cryptic Hoid: faces Mistfallen: more cryptic, might be claiming mask Archer: Derp clears: light village - mistfallen, honor's ghost, CD elims wouldn't say that - coco, Wahr, me situational: dive, wonko POE, votes Burnt Ashbringer: busy Wonko: ciphers against rules. why is mistfallen being cryptic. Wahr's vote is weird. thinks decision to skip nk was in response to discussion. claims inactive for n1, asks ash when elims made choice to skip nk Archer: cryptic Mistfallen: cryptic Burnt: reads list Evil lean: TUO Neutral: Ash, Hael, me, CD Village lean: coco, wonko, mistfallen, Dive, archer, wahr, araris, inactive: TJ, hoid, hg recommends exeing lower activity later. agrees that exeing for trust is next day. wary of low activity, asks questions to GM Ash: thinks elims chose to skip NK haflway through the night, or earlier if more active.thinks throwing the loop si a little backwards? CD: some responses. Archer: Thinks Burnt's reads list resembles his, changes vote to Araris. Misfallen: Cryptic Hael: RP Mistfallen: RP Coco: Vote count, asks why archer votes Araris. village reads are mistfallen, dive, wahr, wonko, maybe archer. CD: RP Mistfallen RP Coco: RP Ash: RP Dive: wants TUM to pitch in more, wary of clearing Mistfallen Mistfallen: agrees Araris: rescinds vote on Wonko Dive: agrees on not exeing inactives til loop 2. asks coco who they're voting and what mistfallen means by trying deepwolfing Mistfallen: reminisces about last game (good game for me) Dive: thinks mistfallen is village, asks about TUM more Mistfallen: wants to wait for more from TUM Burnt: RP Hoid: present Archer: Votes HG Wahr: rescinds vote on Ash. goes through Archer's vote jumps. CD: RP Me: present, just busy Archer: Voting based on POE Araris: votes Wahr because he thought Wahr was accusing him of voting without reason War: explains Araris: ok still leave vote there for now. thoughts on reasoning that elims are unlikely to skip nk if they're under suspicion? Wahr: you can rescind your vote. fire wasn't serious and skipped nk might hae divert attention from archer.wonko, or still plan to exe villager Stick: hi Archer: votes stick Stick and Wahr: rude Archer: switches to Hael. Mistfallen: switches to Wahr for defensiveness Wahr: why Stick: questions Araris: asks whar who he thinks are E archer teammates Mistfallen: still thinks wahr is e based on retaliation vote and vote on ashbringer Coco: votes Wahr based on weird moves. Stick: votes CD for seeming too eager to be seen as villlage Wahr: thinks e!archer teammates may be me or dive. votes Mistfallen, admits it might be because of aggression towards wahr. defense self. Araris: vote's staying Dive: Town leans Araris, Coco, Mist, Hael, Archer, Burnt ok with voting: wonko, wahr, cd, doc low activity: ash, tj, hoid, stick, tum archer's vote jumping is reminiscent of last game. says Wahr claiming dive and me are potential teammates is hypocritical Mistfallen: wahr's not helping their case. Hoid: Rescinding my vote. Coco: Archer's vote jumping seems more reasonable this game. Going for masks in NAI Mist:I see Wahr lurking Hael: some thoughts on alignment indications to look for, not sure if theres anything there yet. Hoid: Chaos. Now to actually analyze this You see, just be the person other people are analyzing, and then you don’t have to. But good luck, I’d like to hear your insights later. As it is right now, it seems Wahr is going to be exed. I feel confident about it, and I want to see how the Elims react to it, as they kind of already committed to winning loop 1. Hopefully too much doesn’t change before rollover
|TJ| he/him Posted February 23 Posted February 23 (edited) Okay, I'm (somewhat) back. RP-heavy games are usually quite hard for me to get into and this is a bit more because I'm playing catch up. I have since decided to go off purely on vibes for now, until I can devote the mental capacity to read the thread properly.  Given the barest minimum of skim-read of the thread and I do have a reads list for yous. I agree with everything Archer says in this post, except - Coder - No real reads Coco - Village but not for the same reasons; I do think that an elim is capatable of slipping up the no-NK plan, especially if the plan happens after then slipped up in thread but their vibes/posts read village to me Wahr - Disagree entirely with the village read. I think there is a distinct difference with the way Coco and Wahr approach this whole no-NK thing. Wahr puts it forward as a way to combat the throw-the-cycle-to-form-trust-circle idea given by Wonko. Also, I did not particularly like the counter vote on Archer. Invoking last game is usually an elim move, where elims like to draw similarity to the games they were village in. Leaning evil, here. Doc - No read Divergent - I think there is something really weird/off happening with Divergent and/or Hael but I'm not exactly able to point it out. In addition, I remember village-reading Araris and then walking it back for some reason so he is in the middle right now.  This is mostly where I'm at, agree with the Mistfallen village read. I'd give Archer a village read as well. Rollover is at 3am for me, so this is me also signing off but I should be consistently in the game now. Edited February 23 by |TJ|
Doc12 Posted February 24 Posted February 24 Alright, let's see. Gonna try and rate on how willing I am to exe this cycle. First of all, the two that kind of dominated last night and early today's discussion. Both have said they're willing to be exed, and I'm less suspicious of that now because it seems dumb for an elim to say they want to be exed and skip the nk. Honestly want to save them til D3 to decide whether to exe.  Wonko: I don't know. Their responses here, again, seem genuine, and they're responding in back-and-forths? Willing to exe. It's mostly tone for me so far. Tbh I've played with Wonko before but it's been so long I do not remember much of how they used to play and if its similar. Hesitant to exe. Archer: Doing a lot of voting. Instinctive trust because they're so confident, which I don't like lol. On the whole, not really that much of a fan of your derp clears/light village reads, even if you're clearing me. You seem to be monitoring for slip-ups and 'elims wouldn't say this in thread'. In my mind, especially if you or Wonko are e! I can easily see you guys talking in the elim doc and also posting it in thread because 'look at us we're too transparent'. Hesitant to exe. In the very active and mostly helpful bucket, there's: Mistfallen: Very active, asking lots of questions and saying so much. Not a fan of whatever they were doing with Archer on the numbers. I noted those exchanges as 'cryptic' and just moved on >>. Hesitate to ascribe a read because as mentioned, they're pretty good with high-activity posting that makes them seem very informative and trustworthy. They don't want to be exed and its pretty clear they have a mask they want to use, so. Honestly willing to exe, but also interested to see what they get up to tonight. Dive: Generally helpful is the vibe I get from the skimming. I find myself generally agreeing with everything they're saying. Hesitant to exe. Coco: Seems engaged, asking and answering questions. I was also going to call out the lack of a vote but they just dropped one. Overall, like their energy, but nothing explicitly makes me think village or elim. Hesitant to exe, Burnt: Some mechanics discussion, some reads. Read a lot of people village. Was one of the first? I think to discuss voting for people we want in dead doc, but later agrees to vote for elim. I hesitate to read anything into this really. Burnt's someone I knew from before I went on hiatus, and I knew never to fully trust her then  Willing to exe. Araris: The thing I noticed with Araris going through is I like how he's asking questions of the people he's voting on and trying to get reactions out of them. It's just good practice and actually makes applying pressure useful. Sticking on Wahr atm. Still kind of neutral for me. Willing to exe. Wahr: Wahr's first game was QF78 and I want to say his behavior right now is not that unusual. They were also pretty defensive and retaliatory that game, with that sense of righteous indignation. No idea if elim this game their behavior would necessarily change. Willing to exe. CD: People have cited them being too eager to be seen as village, repeatedly saying how nice it would be to be hard cleared. Part of me wonders if this is bait. No true feelings. Willing to exe to see if their tone changes when actually under fire. Hoid: Honestly one of my bigger suspects right now. If I thought it would do anything, I would vote for Hoid. Their behavior reminds me of the last time I was evil with them, where they came in halfway and professed that they were paying little attention and just causing chaos, and because of that managing to skirt by until endgame. They're just engaged enough to show they're following along but also they just 'don't care' to actually analyze and are just here for the chaos. Willing to exe. Unknown: I never trust Unknown, especially when they're quiet. It's just a general playstyle thing. MR75 has been brought up when they were just in the background and only voted to 'tie votes' and hammer at the end. QF78 was also a case when they were the serial killer, and was mostly in the background unless specifically called out. They can be genuinely busy. I tried PMing them a lot last game and they genuinely forgot to put kills in sometimes, so it's kind of a wash for Unknown, just that I generally don't trust him especially if he's lurking. Willing to exe next day. Hael: Busy, says analysis coming later. I do remember helpful advice earlier about PM safety and all that. solidly neutral. hesitant to exe. Ash: As far as I can see has only made one discussion post which is a response to Wonko asking when they thought elims decided to skip the NK. Really not enough to tell right now. Willing to exe next cycle. TJ: Not really here. (Ninjaed, here now.) Waiting for more. HG/Stick: Not really here? Sticks here, but hasn't said much. Probably also still trying to get caught up. Willing to wait for more. Current Vote Count Wonko (1) Dive Archer (2) Wonko, CD Hael (1) Archer Wahr (4) Mistfallen, Araris, Coco, TJ CD (1) Stick Mistfallen (1) Wahr I'm ok with exeing Wahr, and it seems pretty set with a 2 vote lead. Still. Kind of interested to see what happens in the event of a tie. I know I said I was hesitant to exe Archer, but he is still someone I don't know if I trust, so. Archer. Worst case scenario Wahr still gets exed, best case we see some End of Day scrambling that might tell us something. Post Doc vote count Wonko (1) Dive Archer (3) Wonko, CD, Doc Hael (1) Archer Wahr (4) Mistfallen, Araris, Coco, TJ CD (1) Stick Mistfallen (1) Wahr Guys I spent almost 3 hours on catching up an analysis, you're going to be lucky if you get anything more than RP out of me rest of night  Feel free to ask me questions and I'll try to answer though! 2
Ashbringer he/him Posted February 24 Posted February 24 So to put together what I think some people are talking around: We need to exe an Elim in order to win this Loop. If the Elims kill 3 villagers and the Village exes 2 villagers, then it's 7-4 and Elims win, with 5 confirmed villagers. If the Elims don't submit kills and the Village exes 2 villagers, then it's 10-4 and Elims still win, with only 2 confirmed villagers. Meanwhile, especially now that the Elims can only kill 2 villagers, if the Village exes 1 elim successfully it's at worst a 9-3 split, which is still a Village loop win. So the Elim's only real incentive to NK is to try and eliminate pressure off of an exe candidate, which... we didn't do a whole lot of discussion of D1/N1. So they're not killing. Possible they could start, but I somewhat doubt it. That leaves the village options as trying to exe an Elim to win the loop, or just try and out-throw and get two solid confirmed villagers. And honestly that second option sounds... boring. Meant to send this a bit ago but got busy, so I'll send it in now and then look at Wahr, see if their not-flip would tell us much.
Doc12 Posted February 24 Posted February 24 Thistle wasn't a fighter. They were a florist. Not a medic, either. a florist. And yet, in the chaos, they had to pick a role, and they picked 'helper'. Grateful to Amora and Cindra for helping her pack up as much of their herbs and plants as possible, they began rationing out extracts and raw herbs. Armoranth and Ironshroom to protect civilians wading into the fight. Razorshrooms, mighty thistles and bananas for the soldiers to increase their strength. Hyrule herb and hearty vegetables for the injured. Stamella shrooms and endura carrots for the flagging. To those who could not fight, they offered some Puffshrooms for emergency escapes. Thistle had to ration. Their stock, while large, was also limited, and they couldn't afford to use everything before they knew when they could return to their store. Perhaps they could forage? Not right now, in the midst of the battle, but perhaps... Stowing away their bag for now, they returned to the injured, helping bind wounds and splint bones. Helping out however they could. Goddess, help us... 1
Amanuensis he/him Posted February 24 Author Posted February 24 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Ashbringer said: So to put together what I think some people are talking around: We need to exe an Elim in order to win this Loop. If the Elims kill 3 villagers and the Village exes 2 villagers, then it's 7-4 and Elims win, with 5 confirmed villagers. If the Elims don't submit kills and the Village exes 2 villagers, then it's 10-4 and Elims still win, with only 2 confirmed villagers. Meanwhile, especially now that the Elims can only kill 2 villagers, if the Village exes 1 elim successfully it's at worst a 9-3 split, which is still a Village loop win. So the Elim's only real incentive to NK is to try and eliminate pressure off of an exe candidate, which... we didn't do a whole lot of discussion of D1/N1. So they're not killing. Possible they could start, but I somewhat doubt it. That leaves the village options as trying to exe an Elim to win the loop, or just try and out-throw and get two solid confirmed villagers. And honestly that second option sounds... boring. Meant to send this a bit ago but got busy, so I'll send it in now and then look at Wahr, see if their not-flip would tell us much. 10 villagers beats 4 elims, but 9 does not (4 * 2.5 = 10). Elims can't win this loop if every kill is blocked or withheld (assuming no elim is executed). Edited February 24 by Amanuensis
Burnt Spaghetti she/her Posted February 24 Posted February 24 So if i understand those numbers correctly, that would mean the elims would need to night kill at least one person then to win the loop? So really only need to night kill on night 3. Which won't help us with this loops information at all. Gross. So we would get 3 confirmed villagers in that situation. Not much can be done with dead doc coordination there. Does the N3 kill person even get a chance to see the doc?
Amanuensis he/him Posted February 24 Author Posted February 24 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Burnt Spaghetti said: Does the N3 kill person even get a chance to see the doc? No. They will die for the parity check, but then everyone is resurrected / sent back in time before they get the chance to see the doc. Edited February 24 by Amanuensis
Hoid Slayer He/Him Posted February 24 Posted February 24 2 minutes ago, Amanuensis said: No. They will die for the parity check, but then everyone is resurrected / sent back in time before they get the chance to see the doc. I vote giving them the link to at least read it in hindsight
The Unknown Medallion he/him Posted February 24 Posted February 24 So I haven’t read anything since D1 I'll be re-reading tonight
Haelbarde he/him Posted February 24 Posted February 24 With no D1 execution and no N1 nk, if we just didn't execute anyone today or D3, it doesn't really matter if elims night kill or not, we would win this first round. We wouldn't really learn anything, but we'd have one win under our belts. But that is of little use right now >> And that was my break between classes, I'll try and get back on after this last class.
Amanuensis he/him Posted February 24 Author Posted February 24 4 minutes ago, Haelbarde said: With no D1 execution and no N1 nk, if we just didn't execute anyone today or D3, it doesn't really matter if elims night kill or not, we would win this first round. We wouldn't really learn anything, but we'd have one win under our belts. But that is of little use right now >> And that was my break between classes, I'll try and get back on after this last class. I clarified this in thread previously, but only D1-A has no exe. All other days have mandatory exes
Burnt Spaghetti she/her Posted February 24 Posted February 24 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Haelbarde said: With no D1 execution and no N1 nk, if we just didn't execute anyone today or D3, it doesn't really matter if elims night kill or not, we would win this first round. We wouldn't really learn anything, but we'd have one win under our belts. But that is of little use right now >> And that was my break between classes, I'll try and get back on after this last class. I believe Aman stated previously that the exe must happen, and if we dont vote i think someone was randomly picked? Otherwise then yes, no exe would let us win on numbers  Edit: Ninjad by the man himself Edited February 24 by Burnt Spaghetti
Amanuensis he/him Posted February 24 Author Posted February 24 (edited) Basically if no one voted, the player with the least rupees would be killed (form of inactivity filter). Rupees spent on Masks and PMs are still counted for this, however, so you don't need to worry about saving your money for tie breaker protection Edited February 24 by Amanuensis
Ashbringer he/him Posted February 24 Posted February 24 (edited) Not randomly, it's based on lowest Rupees. Edit: Well well well Edited February 24 by Ashbringer
Burnt Spaghetti she/her Posted February 24 Posted February 24 1 minute ago, Ashbringer said: Not randomly, it's based on lowest Rupees. Edit: Well well well Yay for team ninja'd by the GM! ---  Also Stick! Hai! Its been forever, Good to see you, good luck on the catch up of thread! That does make me a bit less sus of Honors ghost then if they genuinely didn't have time, does also mean that theres not much to go off with stick, so definitely a look into later, and probably fine for now i think.  1
The Unknown Medallion he/him Posted February 24 Posted February 24 (edited) Finished n1 and the first page of d2. Figured I'd post now in the hopes I can get two discussion posts from this On 2/21/2026 at 4:32 PM, CoderDrag0n8 said: Squircle decided to ignore the strange creature, and focus on the task at hand. "So I am assuming you cannot speak." Squircle said, "But I am assuming you can understand words." He took out a pocket knife, and knelt down the intruder. "Should I try and carve his mask off?" He asked. Internally, he began thinking about the problem at hand. Dreamers, huh? Dreams can be powerful. But for a dream to make world? That would require a powerful being. But a being who is a legend? And at that, one who saved a village and could supposedly turn back time? A hero like that could be on par with a deity. - - - 1. I have been an elim before. Multiple times. I have been playing SE for, not a while, but I am pretty sure I have been in games you have not. 2. What am I supposed to say? I managed to scrape together a great character in my first RP post, and I am sorry if I don't think there is much to say when everyone else had already been saying it. I have never been a big fan of D1/C1 and so I really didn't have much to say when there was no exe and people who were familiar with a similar ruleset (whatever resistantce is) were already making spot on analysis, and I didn't think I would add much to the discussion. So yeah, I mostly focused on fun RP and lore, while still trying to get my discussion posts in. Also, I was celebrating discussion post, because I had 2 discussion posts I needed to fufil this Night so I could get my max rupee gain. 3: This is you saying 'DF unlikely, if it is, only loop 5, 2 people can get it, gtg' This is me saying: Ok, so the DF is unlikely but possible, only available loop 5, only 2 people could possibly get it (restating what you said so I could set up the context). I was also setting up the pros/cons for trying to go for it in case they were reading it. Next I asked a question (that you had not asked) and proposed 2 strategies for L2. Then I celebrated my 2nd (/5th) discussion post of the nigh (/cycle). Once again, this was your argument: Coder: I think Coder is an Elim for similar reasons to Honor. He definitely has been more active then Honor, but everything has just been either rules questions(which you can do in your GM PM) or RP. Coder has never been Elim before, and so, like Honor, I think he’s trying to figure out what to do, while stalling and trying to seem active. This is probably my weakest read though. That said, the time he did have an analysis adjacent post, he pretty much restated what I did the post before, and then celebrated posting it. I think he’s Elim Italicies, Underlining, and bolding each relate to different sections of your argument and my counter-argument. edit: Is my reaction to your satisfaction? (/jk) I liked this post, getting a slight village read from Coder On 2/21/2026 at 8:57 PM, Mistfallen Soldier said: Okay… so, do explanation of the brainstorming strategy thing. The problem is that as Village, it’s a stupid idea. There is no reason to give the Elims and more help/info than you need to. You mentioned how you weren’t good at the mechanic solving here. From a V!Wonko or V!Archer standpoint, they don’t know the knowledge level of the Elims, and so giving anything more than what helps the village is a terrible idea. Considering they both have demonstrated a pretty good understanding of the mechanics, I doubt they just didn’t consider it. Ah. Thank you for the clarification. I assumed you started the same time as me and Dive. I will have to see who else could possibly be Elim, but soon we’ll have a NK to go over, and that may help.  I did not like this post (disagree), but didn’t find it AI at first. However, the way Mist is pushing reads e to me. Edited February 24 by The Unknown Medallion
Amanuensis he/him Posted February 24 Author Posted February 24 GM Confirmed Vote Count (4) Wahrheit: Araris, Mistfallen, coco, TJ, (3) Archer: Wonko, Hoid Slayer, Doc12, (2) Mistfallen: Wahrheit, TUM, (1) Wonko: Divergent, (1) Haelbarde: Archer, (1) Coder: Stick, Just under an hour and a half remains in the Day 1
Divergent He/Him Posted February 24 Posted February 24 1 hour ago, |TJ| said: Divergent - I think there is something really weird/off happening with Divergent and/or Hael but I'm not exactly able to point it out.  Is that because Hael and I are both Goron? /jk 1 hour ago, Doc12 said: I'm ok with exeing Wahr, and it seems pretty set with a 2 vote lead. Still. Kind of interested to see what happens in the event of a tie. I know I said I was hesitant to exe Archer, but he is still someone I don't know if I trust, so. Archer. Worst case scenario Wahr still gets exed, best case we see some End of Day scrambling that might tell us something. What are you expecting to see if it ends up being a tie? And were you aware that a tie is determined by lowest rupee count? I wanted to hear more from Wahr before deciding on my vote, but he never returned to respond to my questions (probably fell asleep). Something I've been thinking though is the possibility of Wahr and Archer being paired together. Their interactions feel oddly a little performative. Wahr and Archer voted each other at the start of the day, and then immediately backed off after a single post. And then later on, Wahr shades Archer's vote hopping and then gives him a prompt to respond to that suspicion (which was different to how he approached the Ashbringer vote). Later on, he cites that he doesn't want to be voted out, but then he doesn't self-pres at all on the leading wagon, Archer, and instead starts a new wagon. And as I mentioned earlier, he seemed to think one of Wonko/Archer is evil, but instead he goes off in a different direction and also tries to shade people who wanted to consider other options. However, if they weren't paired, I think it's more likely that Wahr is the elim between both of them. Wonko Wahrheitswächter
Doc12 Posted February 24 Posted February 24 14 minutes ago, Divergent said: What are you expecting to see if it ends up being a tie? And were you aware that a tie is determined by lowest rupee count? Oh. i was not, no. I don't know, I mean my usual strategy when voting is to go for ties when possible, because EoD scrambling can be very informative when an elim is in danger and they don't want to be exed. but now there's no tie, my vote is essentially useless. it does seem like with an hour left not much is going to change. I feel like changing my vote to Hoid, but that won't do anything either, so I'm going to just put my vote on Wahr then. Archer
CoderDrag0n8 He/They Posted February 24 Posted February 24 Holy-That's what happens when weekdays smh I will not be on for rollover. This may be the last post of mine before N2A(sha aka black widow) My Archer vote seems unwarranted by now, lots has happened since it (+ a slight v!read on Archer) Do not know who else to vote T^T 8 hours ago, Stick. said: hey Wahr and coder (I don’t think we’ve played before coder? Nice to meet u)  Archer i apparently have five million rupees and all the items also so be careful We might of? I don't remember you, but I also don't remember most people from the most recent anon game. I was in it, Onyx Flamingo 6 hours ago, Stick. said:  edit:  coder sorry this is prob the sussiest post ive seen so far it's giving 'hello fellow villagers' vibes  dont think i can actually finish catching up today unfortunately  edit: good to see coco v as well Well I process things relatively slow (especially when they are not my current main concern) and I have been half skimming through these posts so I was sharing information I just came up with, that I now realize was already said plenty. The only thing I know about this game is that Squircle is single-handedly my favorite SE character I have RPed so far. (That might be my downfall) - - - 7 hours ago, Amanuensis said: Ap the Apprentice The seeds were small and hard and fit her new hands better than she expected. Someone had passed them down the line — she didn't see who, only felt them land in her cupped palms, a handful of Deku seeds that smelled of dry earth and the particular sharpness of things stored a long time in a small space. She looked at them. She looked at the Peahats spinning closer and the Skulltulas dropping from the canopy and Danna already moving, sword drawn, toward the largest concentration of monsters, her two remaining escort Wards fanning out behind her. The Apprentice did the math that her grandfather had always said was the most important kind: what do I have, and what does someone else need. She loaded the first seed without knowing exactly how she knew to do it — the body knew, the way it had known how to spin and how to bubble, some inherited fluency in being what it currently was — and sent it into the nearest Skulltula's joint where the leg met the body. The creature seized and stumbled, and Squircle was already there to finish it, and she was already loading the next one. She found her range quickly. She was not strong enough to drop anything — not the Peahats, whose spinning deflected direct shots, nor the larger Wolfos crashing through the undergrowth at the column's eastern edge — but she was fast and accurate and small enough to move through the gaps between fighters without disrupting them. A seed to the eye of the Peahat bearing down on Amora's left side, buying half a second, which was enough. A seed to the exposed back of a Skulltula that had gotten behind the line near Kieran, drawing its attention. She stayed in motion, reading the shape of the fight the way her grandfather had taught her to read a room — not any one thing in it but all of it, the whole arrangement, where the weight was and where it was about to move. The Wolfos came out of the trees in a shape that was more intelligent than animalistic — too direct, too purposeful, the kind of charge that suggested intention rather than instinct. Its target was Danna, who had put herself between it and the civilian center of the column, which was either excellent tactical positioning or the product of being the sort of person who stepped in front of things by reflex. Possibly both. The Apprentice fired twice in quick succession — eye, then shoulder joint — and neither shot stopped the Wolfos but both made it stumble, and that was all Danna needed. She'd been reading the angle the whole time, waiting for exactly the kind of disruption that a fast, accurate seed-shooter could provide, and she went low and left and let the Wolfos carry itself past her on its own momentum and hit it at the base of the skull with everything she had as it went by. The sound it made when it went down carried. The Skulltulas heard it, or felt it, or registered it through whatever sense wild things use to understand when the calculus of a fight has changed. The Peahats were already slowing their spin — spent, or sensing something the Apprentice couldn't name — while the Stalchildren at the east bank remained in the shadows, milling with the anxious aimlessness of things that had lost a signal they'd been following. One by one, and then in clusters, the wildlife pulled back into the trees. Not routed — retreating, with the deliberate quality of weapon that had been pointed at something and were now being pointed elsewhere. The swamp settled back into its own noise. Danna was breathing hard. She stood over the dead Wolfos and looked at the column — the civilians intact, two of her escort Wards down and being attended to, three Deku Scouts who would not be getting up — and her face did the thing Vicsen's face did when it was processing a number it didn't want to accept. Then it stopped doing that and became a face with a job. "Status," she said. The answers came back: no civilian casualties. Two Wards injured but mobile. The Deku Scouts — and here the surviving Scrubs made sounds that needed no translation. Danna listened and nodded and did not look away from them while she did it. "We honor them when we reach the Palace," she said. "Right now we move." The Swamp Tourist Center was a building that had been built for a more peaceful relationship with the Southern Swamp than the Southern Swamp was currently offering. It sat on a platform above the waterline with a dock extending out over water the color of strong tea, and two flat-bottomed boats tied to it that had been designed for leisurely sightseeing and were about to be used for something considerably less leisurely. A Deku attendant stood at the dock's edge with the expression of someone who had been processing the morning's events for several hours and had not finished. Danna did the math at a glance. "Two boats, twenty each if we press it." She looked at the column — the better part of three hundred people, the wounded, the children, the ones who had fought and the ones who hadn't, strung out along the dock platform and back up the swamp path as far as she could see. The smoke from the settlement was darker than it had been twenty minutes ago. "We go in groups. First boat leaves now." She turned to face the column, the full weight of what she was about to say visible in the way she held herself — the youngest of Vicsen's senior recruits, standing on a dock in a swamp at dawn with a dead monsters behind her and a burning settlement ahead. "I'll take the vanguard," she said. "Half of the Clock Wards with me, and the Deku Scouts who can fight. I need volunteers from the civilians — anyone who came through in that fight and can come through in another one." She held the silence for a moment. "Whatever is happening at the Palace, we need to reach it before it finishes happening." She looked at the length of the column stretching back up the swamp path — three hundred people, most of them exhausted, many of them hurt, none of them done yet. "The boats come back for the next group and the next after that. Someone capable needs to stay with the column each time, manage the crossings, keep the rear together until everyone is through. That's not lesser work." She said it plainly, without softening it. "The ones still on this bank need protecting as much as the ones who've already crossed. I'd rather they arrive intact than arrive fast." The water lapped against the dock's supports. The choice was there, plain as the smoke in the sky: go ahead into whatever was burning, or hold the line here and bring the rest through. Both mattered. Both needed doing. Danna was not going to tell anyone which one to choose. She untied the first boat herself and looked back at the volunteers — at the ones who had stepped forward and the ones who hadn't yet — and at the small Deku girl near the dock's edge who had supported Danna's final blow. "First boat," Danna said. "Let's go." RP Quest: Join Danna's vanguard and rush to the Deku Palace OR Remain behind to protect the waiting civilians Squircle thought for a moment before deciding. Squircle decided to wait and see what his companions were to do.
Archer he/him Posted February 24 Posted February 24 I agree with Divergent that Wahr and I are probably teammates. Wahr’s play is unusual. Wahr’s player mindset is solely focussed on personal success. Their retaliation votes are indiscriminate because they’ll do anything to save themselves. There’s an underlying entitlement that thinks if they play perfectly, they don’t deserve to be voted on. Quote you have to consider that if we win the cycle, which is what we are going for, I will be one of a maximum of four suspects for an elim. That is not something a Villager would want. Here, for example, they focus on why being in the suspect pool would be inconvenient for them personally, rather than the upside that might come from personal sacrifice. They’re also prone to logical fallacies: Quote Seeing as your Read on Honor was purely based on their inactivity Incorrect generalization Quote Do you have some sort of Vendetta against me? Ad hominem Quote Also I think you are making a biger deal out of that Vote than any other people.  Archer wasnt very concerned with it, and Wonko who brought it first up didnt made that big of a deal out of it. Appeal to authority Quote So one Vote leads to another which leads eventually to execution which I dont want Slippery slope I don’t know that their elim meta would look much different from this. The volume uptick is making me pause most of all. And given the lack of alternatives, I understand the urge to vote for them. I can’t bring myself to do it. I think we're probably village teammates. Hael Hoid @Doc12?
Doc12 Posted February 24 Posted February 24 2 minutes ago, Archer said: Hael Hoid @Doc12? I'm game. Wahr Hoid Slayer Still don't think this vote will gain traction within the next hour but yeah, Wahr's behavior doesn't quite ring alarm bells for me the way its doing for others. And I do think there's a marked difference in Hoid Slayer's play that's uncomfortably similar to when we were last evil together.Â
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