Divergent He/Him Posted March 11 Posted March 11 On 3/10/2026 at 11:17 PM, Divergent said: Not necessarily the same since both of those votes weren't exactly consequential (the 1st instance was voting Mist with Wahr and that wagon was unlikely to go through since Wahr had 5 votes to Mist's 2; the 2nd instance was tying Hael with TUM, where it was kind of clear Hael wins that tie) and both times he didn't really try to make a conscious effort to encourage people to vote the same way I tried going back to the previous phases and see interactions between the alive 6 + Archer (of whom I suspect most as elim). Didn't realize it would take a lot more time than I expected it to since I'm limiting the number of people, so I ended up not finishing D3B and N3B, and here's my notes from it. I'll need to give more of a think on it tomorrow after I wake up for my conclusions D2A Reveal hidden contents - Coco expresses suspicion of Archer but doesn't vote for him - Hoid expresses suspicion of Archer but doesn't vote for him at first. Votes him a few posts later stating he didn't like his most recent post - Archer and Mistfallen have the secret code thing - Coco and Hoid expressed confusion on what Archer and Mistfallen were doing - Archer derpclears Mist, Coco, Doc. Votes Burnt - Coco village reads Mist, village leans Archer. Expresses agreement with Archer retracting his vote on Burnt because she came up with reads where most everyone is village - Coco singles out Hoid among the inactives stating that "none of their posting has been particularly informative". Doubles down on said read in a later post. - Doc hesitates to vote Archer, but makes him a viable train again. Willing to exe Burnt, Mist, and Hoid. Hesitant to exe Coco and Hael - Doc switches to Hoid - Coco is willing to vote Hoid, but next cycle D3A Reveal hidden contents - Doc wants to keep Burnt and Mist. Courtesy pause on Hael. Interested in exe-ing Archer - Coco does not want to exe Mist due to having an implied important mask. Thinks if one is elim between Archer and Mist, she's leaning more towards Archer - Burnt expresses surprise at Doc revealing postmaster gets to know who sends the PMs - Archer is okay with killing Hael and Hoid - Mist agrees with Archer to vote less active people - Coco hedges on Hoid suspicion; votes TUM making it the leading wagon over Hael - Doc v leans Hael for "it being clear that he has not been paying attention to the game". V leans Coco for being active, asking questions, pushing people - Hoid ties Hael and TUM by voting Hael N3A Reveal hidden contents - Mist has a secret code with Doc. Reveals who he's targeting with Mask of Scents to Doc via secret code D1B Reveal hidden contents - Mist expresses being able to prove Doc is village based on him being village - Mist states that a viable strategy in the game would be to fake being inactive - Archer wants Bunny Hood wearer to claim - Doc shared only Burnt, Mist, Archer, and himself sent PMs. (Personal thought: I feel like there would be only at most 2 elims in that pool? Since it'd be kind of spending rupees needlessly if there were more of them sending PMs) - Coco targets Stick N2 and Archer N3 with Bremen Mask. Shades Hoid again. - Archer INDISPUTABLY village reads Coco for making a meta read on pinch hitting - Doc is confused by Mist's strong v read on him. Interested in voting Archer. Never trusts Burnt. V reads Coco for being very engaged. - Coco follows up on Doc's suspicion of Hoid - Archer states there's at most 1 elims among me, Doc, Coco, and Bunny Wearer (Wonko had not revealed yet). Votes Burnt - Burnt questions Doc for last minute voting. Hops on Mist wagon. Mentions not remembering any of Coco's post and says she'll read back (but eventually never does it) - Mist thanks Archer and Coco for defending him - Coco finds it sus that many have expressed v reads on Mist, but are now voting for him - Hael put Archer as one of the people neutral coasting - Doc is okay with an Australian being exed (Burnt or Hael) - Doc pings 6 different people after Aman posts the vote count where Burnt is the leading wagon (this includes Hoid and Coco) - Archer switches votes from Burnt to myself, breaking the tie (the tie would have gone in Burnt's favor) N1B Reveal hidden contents - Hoid says "even if we won it (Boss Mask) last time". Possible elim slip? Was a weird post in general (Thought: Derpclear reader Archer doesn't comment on it) - Mist encourages Blast Mask holder to wear it - Doc is most suspicious of Archer and Coco. Wants to try exe-ing Burnt next day - Mist wants to use Blast Mask this cycle while Archer wants to use it on the last cycle D2B Reveal hidden contents - Archer votes Doc without an explanation - Burnt tried to PM Doc and Archer - Doc follows through with voting Burnt - Archer and Doc have a secret code - Mist votes Burnt stating that it needs to reappear - Coco makes a long readslist with majority of the playerlist being village or neutral reads - Coco places the third vote on Burnt (following on Mist's reason) - Archer cryptically votes Mist based on his last two posts - Coco says she "was fairly sus of Burnt already", but this was the first time she brought it up - Mist retracts vote on Burnt despite not having had a conclusion yet on his analysis of the previous D1 Burnt train - Coco is no longer suspicious of Hoid and says he was genuinely just not able to be active - Archer continues to commit to his INDISPUTABLE v!read on Coco's pinch hitting read. Vreads Burnt for trying to PM him. Vreads Doc for PMing his suspect list - Archer shades Mist for having a tonal shift (though still a v read) - Coco retracts vote on Burnt to vote Araris after Archer places one vote on him - Mist votes Coco - Doc retracts vote on Burnt to Araris after he claimed Blast Mask - Archer votes TJ - Coco votes TJ (I'm kinda confused where the sus came from?? Cus in the long readslist, she says the chances of him being elim isn't very high and she had a light village read of him) N2B Reveal hidden contents - Doc would have rather Coco/Araris died over TJ - Doc believes in the notion of a Burnt-Archer-Coco team - Archer doesn't want any of the alive 6 dead (though not exactly strong on TwinStorm as he is "unreadable") Completed my reread D3B Spoiler - Archer used Bremen on TwinStorm; kill still went through - Mist says he's okay with exe-ing Coco - Archer votes TwinStorm - Mist pings Hael for not posting for a long while. Archer quotes and says he forgot Hael existed - Doc wants to vote Archer for vote hopping. Votes Coco as she and Archer have been mostly deciding the exes this loop. Elim team is Archer/Coco, Burnt, Hael/Twin/maybe Stick, TJ/Dive (Thought: that's like half the players lol) - Coco defends TwinStorm (mostly bc they just subbed into the game) - Mist believes Doc and Archer to be village. Main suspects are Twin and Coco. Votes Coco - Burnt v reads Archer. Suspects Hael, Coco, TwinStorm - Doc worries about being pocketed by Mist - Mist elaborated on Coco suspicion - Coco and Mist have a back and forth - Doc switches to Stick due to Coco being an unopposed wagon Some thoughts/impressions I had - There was one thing I found common with Coco and Burnt, where there were instances where they both came across as being frozen. These were times when they expressed not knowing who to vote for and I thought it was weird because they did have reads, so the repeated uncertainty felt off. Main difference between them though was how Coco did vote while Burnt only voted twice across 5 days. @|TJ| I think I can come around to what you expressed yesterday about thinking there's only 1 out of 3 elims in the pool of Doc, Coco, and Mistfallen (and that elim being Coco) - For Mistfallen, something that always ran across my mind was your push on Mist in the previous game where you said that he came across as "wanting to be seen as village" and his gameplay so far has been the opposite of that. He's called people out for lurking, for not responding to things, and in general has said several things that give the impression that he doesn't care as much to be seen as village, which I think came across as genuine to me. The back and forths with Coco that he had in D3B and D1C also reminded me of him honing in on Octopus from Anni. I would really like to hear other people's perspectives, especially with those who might e!read him since I never want to have as strong a v!read on him after MR75 I'd like to re-hear your case on why you think Mist is elim @Stick. and if that's still the same or if it has changed - For Doc, I did find it suspicious how he was strongly reading Coco as village and the reasoning was rather vague. It reminded me of his read on Honor / Kangaroo in Anni, which was an effort to place her in a better standing. But I did like how he was one of the first to try to make a push for the Archer/Coco association and also for continuing on with trying to go for the Burnt exe again. What I will say though, is that my reservation is that it seems like he's been far too willing to concede with letting his pushes not go through, and that it could be some very intentional distancing to appear like he's contributing to elim pushes, while also not trying to work as hard at making said pushes succeed. - On Hoid, something that I noticed was how Coco was suspicious of Hoid and even shaded him continuously throughout Loop 1, but never voted for him. And then there's a sudden shift of v!reading him throughout Loop 2. That could be distancing, but I'm also thinking about how this probably is the first time Coco has been elim and I feel like newer elims are less likely to do this sort of distancing and are more likely to just avoid making any definitive read on their less active teammates. But I could definitely see a world where it's Hoid himself who encouraged that sort of behavior towards him, especially with how Hoid seemed to also strongly suspect Archer (and if I'm recalling correctly from seeing that Tress game, Hoid was more the type to go ham on distancing with teammates). - On Hael, Hael's just largely not really made much of a push or shown any reads for majority of the game. The only time that he did from what I recall was D2B. I considered the possibility of him doing something similar as Burnt with providing more general analysis rather than focused and then doing a lot of RP to maximize rupee count, but him being absent for a number of phases makes me think that it's less likely that he's been coming in with that intention and that he's just simply a not very active villager. So, I guess I'm still leaning towards executing Burnt next day and my main suspects after that would be Hoid > Hael, and Doc > Mist 1
Doc12 Posted March 11 Posted March 11 2 hours ago, |TJ| said: Why you didn't go for other Masks? Yeah, true. I agree. For some reason, I thought the resurrection mask was also 50 rupees. I didnt think the other purples were going to be helpful - circus can't steal stone, gibdo wasn't useful for solve, Keaton was the only one thst might be useful but wasn't interested. So I decided to save. 4 minutes ago, Ashbringer said: I’m confused how PMing code words helps in a world where 1) multiple Elims exist and 2) probably aren’t putting the Stone Mask on until last minute. And now the Elims have it? So how’s that plan seeming? Would you have preferred a smaller chance you got it? I understand there was back and forth about whether other village who could afford stone should get stone, and I decided that I would stay out of it to give you a better chance of getting it. I don't know. Ultimately I didn't want stone because it was better with ash and getting it just came with baggage I didn't want. 5 minutes ago, The Unknown Medallion said: Yeah, I'm not going to risk it on Doc's ability to solve riddles tbh Hey! I sort of solved archers Again, very happy to pm or vote or whatever to prove I don't have it. I'm glad there's a mechanical way to test it because I wouldn't believe me either.
Myst He/Him Posted March 11 Posted March 11 6 minutes ago, Doc12 said: I didnt think the other purples were going to be helpful - circus can't steal stone, gibdo wasn't useful for solve, Keaton was the only one thst might be useful but wasn't interested. So I decided to save. Would you have preferred a smaller chance you got it? I understand there was back and forth about whether other village who could afford stone should get stone, and I decided that I would stay out of it to give you a better chance of getting it. I don't know. Ultimately I didn't want stone because it was better with ash and getting it just came with baggage I didn't want. Hey! I sort of solved archers Again, very happy to pm or vote or whatever to prove I don't have it. I'm glad there's a mechanical way to test it because I wouldn't believe me either. Honestly yeah, and yall shouldn’t believe me or Archer either. It’s actually why I’m going for Circus. It wasn’t useful before, but there’s only so many people who can have Stone, and if I can steal it, then we know who has it. Who lied, and then I can tell yall that I won’t put it on(depending on whether you believe me that I didn’t get it from the start) That said. Our options for who has the mask are: Im lying about scents Burnts lying about scents Doc’s lying about not putting a request in Or ash is lying(unlikely) either way, I need RP, but idk where we are right now.
Ashbringer he/him Posted March 11 Posted March 11 8 minutes ago, Doc12 said: Would you have preferred a smaller chance you got it? Yes? … sorry, I’ve sleep-deprived but also do not particularly want to be the Mayor and try and pull a win from this trying to exe a functionally immortal Elim
Myst He/Him Posted March 11 Posted March 11 One more thing, the day the person equips the stone mask, due to OoA, they will still be able to PM people. As they target the postmaster, before they equip their mask, so just because you get a PM from someone who could have the Stone mask does not mean they don’t have it. Plus they could have just not put it on
Doc12 Posted March 11 Posted March 11 19 minutes ago, Mistfallen Soldier said: Honestly yeah, and yall shouldn’t believe me or Archer either. It’s actually why I’m going for Circus. It wasn’t useful before, but there’s only so many people who can have Stone, and if I can steal it, then we know who has it. Who lied, and then I can tell yall that I won’t put it on(depending on whether you believe me that I didn’t get it from the start) That said. Our options for who has the mask are: Im lying about scents Burnts lying about scents Doc’s lying about not putting a request in Or ash is lying(unlikely) either way, I need RP, but idk where we are right now. Didn't you just say you were going for Keaton? And I still don't see how circus helps when Stone is explicitly untargetable once put on. 15 minutes ago, Ashbringer said: Yes? … sorry, I’ve sleep-deprived but also do not particularly want to be the Mayor and try and pull a win from this trying to exe a functionally immortal Elim Well, I apologize? It does unfortunately come with the territory of being hard cleared. I understand being the only other person who by every count had enough money to go for Stone, I'm under the the most scrutiny for buying/not buying Stone. All I can say is that I wanted it in the hands of confirmed village, not mine. And yeah either one of me, burnt, or mist, or someone else not in the conversation could be lying, but I know this is something I can prove through if not PMs, the presence of actual vote tomortow.
Myst He/Him Posted March 11 Posted March 11 8 minutes ago, Doc12 said: Didn't you just say you were going for Keaton? And I still don't see how circus helps when Stone is explicitly untargetable once put on. Well, I apologize? It does unfortunately come with the territory of being hard cleared. I understand being the only other person who by every count had enough money to go for Stone, I'm under the the most scrutiny for buying/not buying Stone. All I can say is that I wanted it in the hands of confirmed village, not mine. And yeah either one of me, burnt, or mist, or someone else not in the conversation could be lying, but I know this is something I can prove through if not PMs, the presence of actual vote tomortow. I literally just changed it, but yeah, proving who has the mask will be hard, but for now, I think we still have to vote Burnt, but make sure that just in case she has it the person with the second most is also someone we want(or are fine with) exeing
Doc12 Posted March 11 Posted March 11 My thoughts are that it HAS to be one of Burnt or Mist. I don't think Hael or twin were active enough to earn 50. Both burnt and mist claimed a 20 rupee mask that made them both ineligible for d1 purchase. But purchased it has been. the fact that Burnt wanted Mist exed makes me think Burnt, obviously. The only thing I do know is that I don't have it, therefore it must be one of you.
Myst He/Him Posted March 11 Posted March 11 14 minutes ago, Doc12 said: My thoughts are that it HAS to be one of Burnt or Mist. I don't think Hael or twin were active enough to earn 50. Both burnt and mist claimed a 20 rupee mask that made them both ineligible for d1 purchase. But purchased it has been. the fact that Burnt wanted Mist exed makes me think Burnt, obviously. The only thing I do know is that I don't have it, therefore it must be one of you. And I know I don’t have it, so if I trust you, that means burnt does
Amanuensis he/him Posted March 11 Author Posted March 11 (edited) Some fun data: Turn Total Posts D1-A 108 N1-A 63 D2-A 162 N2-A 52 D3-A 79 N3-A 71 D1-B 177 N1-B 69 D2-B 122 N2-B 53 D3-B 76 N3-B 41 D1-C 213 N1-C 58 I'm glad to see fatigue / fall off isn't a problem yet Edited March 11 by Amanuensis 2
Myst He/Him Posted March 11 Posted March 11 Time for Rp because I want my rupees, but since Idk where we are yet, improv. ——— Kieran put his backpack, making sure he had everything. “Rope was useful last time… I’ll add more just in case” He looked up in the direction Amora had gone off to, “speaking of which, does anyone know where Amora went? And… if she’s not here for the song… will it turn back without her?” He looked at Ap, “Will it?” He certainly hoped so. It had worked on the people who had gotten stuck and left behind, even on people who had died. Hopefully it continued to do so. ”I suppose we can’t worry about it though… we’ve got bigger problems” 1
Amanuensis he/him Posted March 11 Author Posted March 11 (edited) I'll go ahead and post this first part of the write up. I have a scene I want to finish for Vicsen and Amora as well. Wayward Few Quote The knocking at the back door was patient and insistent, like someone who had committed to a door and was not going to leave until it opened. Ap in Goron form acquised. Kieran stood in the alley with his collar up, looking mildly vindicated. Behind him — close enough that she could make out Thistle's herb-stained satchel, Zymni's silver hair, the expression Cindra wore when she was pretending not to be relieved, and Amora at the back, arms crossed, scanning the alley from which they came. "There's a front entrance, y'know" Ap told Kieran. "The plaza's packed," he said, in the tone of a man who had definitely known this. "Seemed stealthier." "Come in," she said. The main room was already crowded. Throughout the day, familiar faces had drifted in and out — some browsing, some buying, some simply needing somewhere to stand that felt solid — and several had stayed. Lamplight warmed the shelves. The masks on the walls watched with their painted expressions, patient as always. She got everyone inside and closed both doors. The Happy Mask Salesman stood at the front of the room with his hands folded and spoke for the better part of an hour. The summary of it was simple enough, though simple was not the same as easy: The Skull Kid now held two of the four Giant's Masks. Odolwa's. Goht's. Each one a sealed Giant, imprisoned, its power added to something that was already older and larger and more purposeful than any of them wanted to sit with. A third mask would not be a setback. A third mask would end the world. Gyorg's Mask was in the Great Bay. That was where they were going. They all understood what that meant. He understood — he said this with care, and he meant it — what he was asking of them. Not bravery. Something harder. He was asking them to put down their grief, their fear, and the full weight of everything they had watched happen and couldn't forget. He was asking them to let the worst outcomes of their actions and inaction to be the fuel they burn to fly rather than an anchor to sink them down, to move through the next three days without flinching at the cost, because the cost — all of it, every death and every loss across both loops — would be undone once they won. Ap had the ocarina. Ap had played the Song of Time twice already. As long as she was alive and the ocarina was in her hands, nothing that happened was permanent. He was not asking for their loyalty to this mission lightly. He knew exactly what he was describing and he did not soften it. He was asking more than twenty people, many of them children like Ap, to help save the world while treating their own safety with flippancy. He couldn't promise it would feel good or right or fun. He could only promise it would be worth it. They needed to leave now. Right now. Before the play. No warnings, no goodbyes, nothing that would slow them down or pull someone else into a decision they hadn't been asked to make. The room went quiet. Then: anyone unwilling to go under those conditions was free to stay. No blame. No obligation. But the ones who were coming needed to decide now, because they were leaving in ten minutes. For the few minutes, nobody spoke. By the end, Amora was the last one still standing when everyone else started moving for the door. "I'm not coming yet," she said. Thistle stopped. "Vicsen needs to know about Sakon," Amora said. "The Dreamers. The Manor. If I leave without telling him, he goes into this loop the same way he went into the last two. He deserves better than that." "Amora." Thistle looked at her. "Amora, where are you going?" "To find the Commander." She smiled. "I've done this twice now, remember?" Thistle was quiet for a moment. "Come back soon, alright? It's not going to be safe for much longer." "I'll come back." She meant it. It would cost something to mean it, but she meant it. "I promise. I'll be by your side by midnight." She looked at Thistle a beat longer than she needed to. There was something she'd been holding onto — the right words for the right moment, not this one, a quieter one, one that felt earned. She was sure that moment would come. She was saving it for when it did. She slipped out the front door into the last light of the Carnival. Thistle watched the door, then turned back to the room. Departing the West Gate before sunset was easy. The guards were watching the crowds moving toward the square, not the smaller group moving away from it. The gates were still open for the last arrivals trickling in from Termina Field. Nobody looked twice at twenty-two people heading west, the Happy Mask Salesman at the front with a canvas bag over one shoulder and his smile pointed forward. Ap came through last. She looked back once — Clock Town lit up behind her, the banners out, the clock tower turning toward the hour — then faced west. The road curved toward the coast. The sky above the water was orange and fading. She walked. The moon, not yet falling, watching curiously overhead. The ocarina at her hip. Two days left. Edited March 11 by Amanuensis 2
Through the living Wahr He/Him Posted March 11 Posted March 11 The talk with Ap, and the Mask Salesman was very Helpfull, now Wahi actually understood what was going on his memories of the First loop were vague, he had probably died before they came nearthe Mask but he knew what happened in the second loop quite well. That Skull Kid wanted the Mask, two it already had, which Was Bad, they couldnt allow it to gain any more of them than it already had. Wahi was afraid, he thought that he was probably useless, but that didnt stop him from following Ap and the Rest as they left the West Gate. Hopefully they would suchend in gaining Gyorgs Mask. He didnt allow himself to think about what would happen if not 1
Myst He/Him Posted March 11 Posted March 11 Kieran walked slightly ahead of the group, watching the sides of the path. Last time they’d gotten to masks before Skull Kid and the others, but just in case… he wasn’t taking any chances. They’d lost two masks now… there were only two left… and they had to get both of them. “What’s our actual plan?” He called back, “I know the masks at the Bay, but beyond that, do we know what we’re going into?” He paused for a moment, unsure if he should bring it up, “And… to be honest… I don’t like that we’re leaving Clock town this early…. They burned it the last two times, they’ll do it again, except this time we won’t be there to help…” 1
Wonko the Sane he/him Posted March 11 Posted March 11 Zymni frantically waved, trying to get Ap's attention. The now-goron girl marched with fierce determination on her face, which made her annoyingly singleminded and difficult to flag down. Finally, night fell. Zymni sighed as the Twilight washed over her, then looked down at the string tying her to Thistle. With an apologetic glance, Zymni formed a blade out of Twilight in the air beside her, then swept it across the string, freeing her to fly forward to consult with Ap. 1
|TJ| he/him Posted March 11 Posted March 11 (edited) The talk with Ap, in fact, was NOT helpful. First, Ap refused to let him look at those fancy, expensive Masks. "I'm sorry, you can only buy Masks if you have enough rupees." Hmph. What if I did not want to buy it? I just wanted to use it once and return it. Ap should start loaning them out. If that were not enough, Ap wouldn't say who bought the Stone Mask. "I'm sorry but we cannot reveal that information." What was the need for secrecy? What if he had sold the Mask to someone MISCHIEVOUS? Of course, he wouldn't care about that, the greedy salesman. "Masks are to be used", he says. Well, yes! By me! But you won't lend it to me! Hmph. Cosmetica huffed indignantly at the injustice as he stormed out of the shop. ed1t: Err, I thought Ap was the Mask Salesman. I just realised he's the Apprentice. You can tell how how little I have RPed in the game >> Well, just use Ap or Masked Salesman interchangeable here, whatever makes more sense >> Edited March 11 by |TJ| 1
Ashbringer he/him Posted March 11 Posted March 11 43 minutes ago, Wonko the Sane said: Zymni frantically waved, trying to get Ap's attention. The now-goron girl marched with fierce determination on her face, which made her annoyingly singleminded and difficult to flag down. Finally, night fell. Zymni sighed as the Twilight washed over her, then looked down at the string tying her to Thistle. With an apologetic glance, Zymni formed a blade out of Twilight in the air beside her, then swept it across the string, freeing her to fly forward to consult with Ap. Rashe’s eyebrows - as much as he currently had eyebrows - rose. So. He wasn’t the only person here with a magic sword. Good to know, though he’d assumed this place had others. Zymni herself… Rashe didn’t know much about her, as they’d been indisposed at similar times, but she didn’t fit in perfectly with this place. Not in an imperfect way, not like him, but something from a world connected but different. He’d only met someone like himself twice, and neither time was this… neat. People had seemed to accept him as Marton, and now people accepted him as Rashe. Maybe not Makazi, but even Coliver. Rashe did feel a twinge for manipulating her, but he needed her onboard. It was her nature not to trust… it was his to gain trust unearned. Besides, normally he’d do it through loops, and that had worked against him this time. ”Zymni, is it? When you have a moment,” Rashe called, his own blade still in a makeshift back-brace. He’d let her talk with Ap, first, but if nothing else he was curious. 1
Stick. she/her Posted March 11 Posted March 11 20 hours ago, Doc12 said: Stick is here - @Stick. remind me what the reaction testing was? I remember seeing Ash bring it up last loop but I missed the outcome, if any of it. uh no it wasnt a reaction test smh really i was just in a silly mood ...and some of it got lost in translation...dont worry about it xd tj has felt villagery ever since he got resurrected, i cant rly put my finger on the exact reason but he just generally feels like his village self now compared to the robotic version from before and he's making sensible arguments. light read tho, also partly hinges on coco being e 3 hours ago, Mistfallen Soldier said: I’m reasonably sure Burnt isn’t lying about her scents mask, wow....so did u visit ash n3 or no 3 hours ago, Divergent said: I'd like to re-hear your case on why you think Mist is elim @Stick. and if that's still the same or if it has changed good question, ive internally kinda been on and off on that read. there's a part of me that just loves to be right in these games so i catch myself forcing a narrative in my head at times, so id like some discussion on my thoughts below. first ill direct u to my post from yesterday: tldr: at the moment i lean ever so slightly town than not, based on the fact that the ash NK on L2 N3 was completely unnecessary, numbers-wise, and rather gave us an advantage of 50 rupees. what does e!mist gain from this in a world where v!burnt? probably nothing, and mist as a player is always mechanically involved, based on my own experience as e with them, so im inclined to think theyd have known N3King ash is counterintuitive what does e!mist gain from this in a world where e!burnt? a strong unpairing, yes, and this was my initial thought - but realistically the definite risks do outweigh the potential reward, because in a flipless game u have to account for the fact that typically people are more likely to just exe them both just to be sure and then u also have the conf villa with 50 rupees. it works a lot better in a game with flips separately, i have a slightly cursed thought, that maybe the elims are working towards a strat where they deliberately nk ash thrice to get him to silver, which they then steal with circus. if this is the case then they only decided to go for it after the l2 d3 exe because then they would have known with certainty that they are not losing the loop (and this in turn would indicate one elim died somewhere in loop2/was close to dying towards the end). this doesnt exactly lend more credence to either a v!mist or e!mist world, or to either a v!burnt or e!burnt world, but it crossed my mind
Myst He/Him Posted March 11 Posted March 11 2 minutes ago, Stick. said: uh no it wasnt a reaction test smh really i was just in a silly mood ...and some of it got lost in translation...dont worry about it xd tj has felt villagery ever since he got resurrected, i cant rly put my finger on the exact reason but he just generally feels like his village self now compared to the robotic version from before and he's making sensible arguments. light read tho, also partly hinges on coco being e wow....so did u visit ash n3 or no good question, ive internally kinda been on and off on that read. there's a part of me that just loves to be right in these games so i catch myself forcing a narrative in my head at times, so id like some discussion on my thoughts below. first ill direct u to my post from yesterday: tldr: at the moment i lean ever so slightly town than not, based on the fact that the ash NK on L2 N3 was completely unnecessary, numbers-wise, and rather gave us an advantage of 50 rupees. what does e!mist gain from this in a world where v!burnt? probably nothing, and mist as a player is always mechanically involved, based on my own experience as e with them, so im inclined to think theyd have known N3King ash is counterintuitive what does e!mist gain from this in a world where e!burnt? a strong unpairing, yes, and this was my initial thought - but realistically the definite risks do outweigh the potential reward, because in a flipless game u have to account for the fact that typically people are more likely to just exe them both just to be sure and then u also have the conf villa with 50 rupees. it works a lot better in a game with flips separately, i have a slightly cursed thought, that maybe the elims are working towards a strat where they deliberately nk ash thrice to get him to silver, which they then steal with circus. if this is the case then they only decided to go for it after the l2 d3 exe because then they would have known with certainty that they are not losing the loop (and this in turn would indicate one elim died somewhere in loop2/was close to dying towards the end). this doesnt exactly lend more credence to either a v!mist or e!mist world, or to either a v!burnt or e!burnt world, but it crossed my mind Nope, I did not visit Ash. I think Burnt had scents, but I think she’s lying about the results.
Stick. she/her Posted March 11 Posted March 11 2 minutes ago, Mistfallen Soldier said: Nope, I did not visit Ash. I think Burnt had scents, but I think she’s lying about the results. so doc e? ngl i just thought of something sick
Myst He/Him Posted March 11 Posted March 11 2 minutes ago, Stick. said: so doc e? ngl i just thought of something sick Potentially, he says he doesn’t have it, and I want to believe him. I’m slightly considering that Ash does have it, and he’s doing this to gauge our reactions. But yeah, no one’s counter-claimed scents so that kinda leaves us with doc(assuming you trust me). I do have a backup plan though, which may or may not work, depending
Stick. she/her Posted March 11 Posted March 11 nah ash def doesnt, if this was a reaction test hed have revealed it by now instead of making us waste time for a whole turn
Myst He/Him Posted March 11 Posted March 11 1 minute ago, Stick. said: nah ash def doesnt, if this was a reaction test hed have revealed it by now instead of making us waste time for a whole turn That’s true, after all, I can’t think of another reason he’d hide that he has it. If he equips it tonight, even if he does get NKed the NK comes after the equip so he’d be fine Speaking of NKs though, whoever has the postman hat should not reveal themselves, as PMs are kind of the only option we have to find stone(despite its flaws) and otherwise we has to resort to Keaton, Bremen and scents and those are best used other ways.
Doc12 Posted March 11 Posted March 11 (edited) 56 minutes ago, |TJ| said: ed1t: Err, I thought Ap was the Mask Salesman. I just realised he's the Apprentice. You can tell how how little I have RPed in the game >> Well, just use Ap or Masked Salesman interchangeable here, whatever makes more sense >> Ap is also a she 2 hours ago, Amanuensis said: "I'll come back." She meant it. It would cost something to mean it, but she meant it. "I promise. I'll be by your side by midnight." She looked at Thistle a beat longer than she needed to. There was something she'd been holding onto — the right words for the right moment, not this one, a quieter one, one that felt earned. She was sure that moment would come. She was saving it for when it did. She slipped out the front door into the last light of the Carnival. Thistle watched the door, then turned back to the room. 1 hour ago, Wonko the Sane said: Zymni frantically waved, trying to get Ap's attention. The now-goron girl marched with fierce determination on her face, which made her annoyingly singleminded and difficult to flag down. Finally, night fell. Zymni sighed as the Twilight washed over her, then looked down at the string tying her to Thistle. With an apologetic glance, Zymni formed a blade out of Twilight in the air beside her, then swept it across the string, freeing her to fly forward to consult with Ap. Thistle should have noticed the rope being cut. And a part of them did, and was annoyed, but they were too busy looking back. Watching. Waiting. They were mostly looking at the moon, or back at Clock Town, which was beginning to smoke. It was odd, not being there among the chaos, the fire, the screams. They'd left so quickly, so cleanly. But where was Amora? Last loop, Thistle had been with Cindra, Amora, and Ap, at the Mayor's, when it had blown up. Amora would have remembered that, right? She wouldn't have gotten herself blown up... It was so close to midnight. How long did it take to warn a commander and leave the city? At this point, they should have seen a lone figure running to catch up... Something squeezed tight at their heart. The last two loops, they'd never been separated from Amora. Where was she? The way Amora had looked at her before she left... Could Thistle dare to hope? Goddess, where was she? "Goddess, Zymni! Stay close to me!" Almost to distract themself, they marched towards the itinerant Twili. Midnight drew ever closer. 9 minutes ago, Mistfallen Soldier said: That’s true, after all, I can’t think of another reason he’d hide that he has it. If he equips it tonight, even if he does get NKed the NK comes after the equip so he’d be fine Speaking of NKs though, whoever has the postman hat should not reveal themselves, as PMs are kind of the only option we have to find stone(despite its flaws) and otherwise we has to resort to Keaton, Bremen and scents and those are best used other ways. Didn't we discuss using votes also to show that we didn't have Stone? Edited March 11 by Doc12 1
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