Araris Valerian he/him Posted March 3 Posted March 3 Well, I'm going to open with a vote on Archer. I was thinking either him or Wonko was elim (or both), so this is a good opportunity to get both of them with a single execution. I'll plan to reread at least his and coco's posts in more detail.
coco.pudding she/they Posted March 3 Posted March 3 Well, that’s an interesting choice of kill. Not really sure what to make of it. I’ll have to maybe go back and look at some of his posts, see if I can figure out a reason. 1 hour ago, Archer said: I'd like to zero in on Araris (who keeps giving very safe/correct analysis sparsely) Agreed on this. Something feels pretty off about some of his posts. Feels very posting without contributing very much to me on a lot of them (not all, but many) I might also go back and read some of those. Also, I’ve directly questioned him on some stuff in the past and he either didn’t answer or answered without really answering (does that sentence make sense? I don’t know) and that felt like a very strange move. So for now, Araris
Araris Valerian he/him Posted March 3 Posted March 3 I admittedly do slot in to all the places I've been casting suspicion with my vote analysis, though my initial suspicion of Archer is more related to his and Wonko's D1a posts. Hopefully I can put something together to convince the rest of y'all that I'm the good one and Archer and coco are rotten tenants that owe me all of their rupees.
coco.pudding she/they Posted March 3 Posted March 3 5 minutes ago, Araris Valerian said: coco are rotten tenants that owe me all of their rupees. Excuse you I pay my rent on time 2
DrakeMarshall he/him Posted March 3 Posted March 3 well I think the most interesting thing Wonko did recently was this: On 2/28/2026 at 7:14 PM, Wonko the Sane said: Quote D2 Burnt - Hael, Wonko, Araris, Coco, Doc Me - Wonko, Archer, Dive, Burnt, Coco N2 Mistfallen - Doc, Archer D3 Me - Hael, TJ, Mist, Araris, Stick Mistfallen - Doc Burnt - Mistfallen Archer - Wonko, Wonko, Stick, Stick, Hoid N3 Burnt - Stick Excellent. Now, the nice thing about this list is that, until very recently, I don't think any of us assumed you could deliver it. The rules and clarifications up to this point did not indicate that the Postman learned the senders and recipients of all messages. So, barring the possibility that you're an elim and either warned your teammates or fudged the above list, we can assume that no messages were sent between e/e pairs, because it would be a meaningless waste of Rupees. That's pretty useful. ...and just because Wonko isn't around to talk about it doesn't mean I won't! The connectives imply Burnt, Doc, and Archer are more likely village here. TJ, Hoid, Stick, Araris are more likely evil. source: trust me bro Combine that with some of my personal credences and I suppose I'll vote TJ.
Through the living Wahr He/Him Posted March 3 Posted March 3 9 hours ago, Archer said: So why not shoot confirmed villager Wahr, who claimed vanilla? Because if they loose the Cycle every confirmed villager in the pool of dead people is one less suspect. If all 6 kills happen and we win the loop, there are at least 2 elims in 6 people, if they killed confirmed villagers, the pool of suspects would be reduced, meaning its more likely we find the elims. Yes, if they managed to win the cycle there would be less soft cleared villagers but I dont think thats as important because we cannot fully trust the dead form this loop and beyond as there could always be an elim between them. I think if they would go for a cleared villager they would do so N3 when they know what would be more usefull for them less soft cleared villagers or more suspects The people I trust the least for now are Coco, Araris and Mistfallen but thats mostly vibes and the voting results from L1. I also do not trust Doc on principle. For now I think I go with Araris out of my three main suspects purely to get some sort of Train going 1
Archer he/him Posted March 3 Posted March 3 2 hours ago, Wahrheitswächter said: Because if they loose the Cycle every confirmed villager in the pool of dead people is one less suspect. If all 6 kills happen and we win the loop, there are at least 2 elims in 6 people, if they killed confirmed villagers, the pool of suspects would be reduced, meaning its more likely we find the elims. Yes, if they managed to win the cycle there would be less soft cleared villagers but I dont think thats as important because we cannot fully trust the dead form this loop and beyond as there could always be an elim between them. I think if they would go for a cleared villager they would do so N3 when they know what would be more usefull for them less soft cleared villagers or more suspects The people I trust the least for now are Coco, Araris and Mistfallen but thats mostly vibes and the voting results from L1. I also do not trust Doc on principle. For now I think I go with Araris out of my three main suspects purely to get some sort of Train going Took me an embarrassing amount of time to understand what you mean. If we win the cycle, there's two elims in the dead doc. They need non confirmed villagers to also be in there to give them a chance of hiding. Got it. For this to make sense as a strategy, Divergent has to be evil. It's an E!hedge against losing the Loop, which is a far too early sign of weakness. 12 hours ago, Burnt Spaghetti said: Wahr, Doc, Archer, Wonko, Ashbringer now it's awkward that I didn't plan on PMing you. Here, you can have the joke part of the message: Spoiler Where do we go to be right twice? RSNOODC BKNBJ SNVM It's tempting to vote Araris to get out of paying rent... Might come back to it. Still bothers me how precisely they've played, which fits the mindset of someone who knows they need to maintain cover for a literal month. For now, I'll plus one Absolutely TJ Doc
Ashbringer he/him Posted March 3 Posted March 3 1 hour ago, Archer said: Took me an embarrassing amount of time to understand what you mean. If we win the cycle, there's two elims in the dead doc. They need non confirmed villagers to also be in there to give them a chance of hiding. Got it. For this to make sense as a strategy, Divergent has to be evil. It's an E!hedge against losing the Loop, which is a far too early sign of weakness. I'd also note a couple other reasons - confirmed villagers may have more a need to go for Blast Mask, which may turn Elims off of otherwise appealing NK options. Plus I imagine most Elim teams wouldn't want to NK the same targets over and over again, especially Wahr who's relatively newer, just so people can play the game. And I wouldn't be too sure of e!Dive. Could be the Elim team thinks they'll lose members to the Exe, could be they thought Wonko more likely to allow for the PM cutoff, could be that it's v!Dive e!Wonko as a pretty devastating DGG if we don't read into it. (I don't think it's that, but it still could be.) TJ
Araris Valerian he/him Posted March 3 Posted March 3 Anyone mind summarizing their thoughts on TJ? He’s kinda slipped under my radar, and since I’ve been focusing on the more active players that’s lead me to assume he’s likely village.
DrakeMarshall he/him Posted March 3 Posted March 3 (edited) 2 hours ago, Archer said: For this to make sense as a strategy, Divergent has to be evil. It's an E!hedge against losing the Loop, which is a far too early sign of weakness. Well, the flip side of that deduction is that killing a confirmed villager signals that the Dive vote was a miss and the elims think they’ll win. If v!Dive, maybe the elims didn’t want to soft clear Dive. However it’s mindgames all the way down until we get the concete feedback of either winning or losing a loop. I appreciate Wahr breaking it down though, I hadn’t thought of all that. edit: 16 minutes ago, Araris Valerian said: Anyone mind summarizing their thoughts on TJ? He’s kinda slipped under my radar, and since I’ve been focusing on the more active players that’s lead me to assume he’s likely village. Kind of an odd assumption there, if you ask me! I am a bit surprised 2 votes already joined mine, since I didn't super explain it, but I'm certainly not complaining Well here are some loose reasons off the top of my head: TJ has been playing with limited bandwidth, which is fine, but from what I've seen more of that bandwidth is going to responding to the occasional TJ sus than it is to casing anyone, which I squint at. This is a somewhat cherrypicked example but take a look at this post. Multiple paragraphs of proactively responding to people's TJ suspicions when he wasn't really in danger, and then a vote with a one-line explanation that boils down to "the vibes are off my friend." Those priorities are suspicious. I refer you to my Day 3A vote analysis. I think it was a village/village tie and the elims were probably just letting it happen. TJ is not the only one implicated by this line of reasoning (you are too actually ) but I do have trust reads on some of the people which narrows it down. It's a minor thing but I do think TJ's a player who would have a strong preference against Wonko's "elims throw the first loop" strat, which y'all seemed surprised about when the elims didn't do it. I wouldn't put much stock in this but it's there /shrug Connectives Honestly I think everyone except the cleared 3, Hael, and Wonko is sus rn I'm sure I could come up with a bullet point list for others but I choose TJ to go at the top of the list sorry friend Edited March 3 by DrakeMarshall
Amanuensis he/him Posted March 3 Author Posted March 3 (edited) (3) TJ: Drake, Archer, Ashbringer, (2) Araris: coco, Wahrheit, (1) Archer: Araris, Ap the Apprentice She didn't decide to follow them. She just didn't not follow them. Sakon's detail moved east from the Smithy at a pace that was easy to match from a distance — a column of six, unhurried, cutting through the tent camp toward the rope bridges. Ap drifted after them without announcing this to anyone, too focused on keeping them in sight across the crowded permafrost to notice that she'd left her companions behind until the first bridge was already under her feet and the camp was already behind her. The bridges swayed in the mountain wind. Below them, the lake was frozen solid, its surface swept clean and white. She kept her eyes on Sakon's uniform ahead and moved quickly across the first island, then the second bridge, and then stopped. To her left, a carved wooden sign announced the Twin Island Hot Springs in several languages including, she noted, Deku. The steam rising from behind a low decorative fence was visible from the bridge. Through the fence, three Business Scrubs were floating in a pool on cushioned mats, speaking to each other with the rapid, clipped efficiency of people discussing something they found more interesting than the current apocalypse. Two Goron bouncers stood at the entrance with their arms folded. Sakon's column was still moving. She watched them cross the next bridge and disappear around the bend toward Goron Village. She looked at the Scrubs, then back at the direction Sakon had gone. He had given her rupees to keep her comfortable and out of the way. That didn't mean the Business Scrubs were necessarily his. They were merchants, which according to her grandfather, meant they loved rupees more than anything. Anything they knew about the area was potentially useful. Surely they'd share something important for the right price. She pushed the gate open. The nearer Goron looked at her. "Sorry, goro. This pool is occupied." "I know. I'd like to pay for a conversation with the owners." She held up the pouch, shaking it and making it clink. "They only speak Deku, goro," the other Goron bouncer said. "Okay. How much for a minute?" The first sighed. "A thousand rupees. Too rich for you." She opened the pouch and counted. Sixteen silver rupees. Sixteen hundred total. She held them all out so they could see. Behind her, she heard someone make a pained noise — she'd been followed by some of the others, apparently — but she kept her eyes on the Goron. He didn't move. "What part of they only speak Deku—" "I understood you the first time." She put the pouch away, then reached into her pack and pulled out the Deku Mask. Ap thought of Kashika crouching beside her in the palace workroom, explaining how the Mask would translate her words if she just relaxed into the sounds and focused, then slipped the Mask over her face once again. The transformation took a breath. When it finished, both Gorons were very still — the specific stillness of people who have just been yanked backward thirty-three years to a feeling they hadn't expected to feel again. She could see it in their faces: the green cap, the mask, the size of her against the size of what they remembered. They must have been children when Link came through. That much was obvious. She walked between them. They didn't stop her. The pool was deep and very hot and her cannonball splash was very large. All three Business Scrubs went under. Their cushioned mats spun. When Ap surfaced, the pouch was still in her hand, thoroughly soaked, and the Scrubs were sputtering and staring at her with the combined expression of confusion, rage, and fear. She held the pouch up. "I heard you like rupees," she said in Deku. "I'd like to pay you for a conversation." Edited March 3 by Amanuensis 3
Araris Valerian he/him Posted March 3 Posted March 3 1 hour ago, DrakeMarshall said: Well here are some loose reasons off the top of my head: TJ has been playing with limited bandwidth, which is fine, but from what I've seen more of that bandwidth is going to responding to the occasional TJ sus than it is to casing anyone, which I squint at. This is a somewhat cherrypicked example but take a look at this post. Multiple paragraphs of proactively responding to people's TJ suspicions when he wasn't really in danger, and then a vote with a one-line explanation that boils down to "the vibes are off my friend." Those priorities are suspicious. I refer you to my Day 3A vote analysis. I think it was a village/village tie and the elims were probably just letting it happen. TJ is not the only one implicated by this line of reasoning (you are too actually ) but I do have trust reads on some of the people which narrows it down. Thanks! This all checks out to me. I’m not entirely sure about the last two bullets, but you’ve convinced me in principle, and made me more interested in hearing TJ’s thoughts on where to go from here. My gut still is trying to ignore him for whatever reason. What are your thoughts on Archer/coco? Also, I’m mildly concerned that everyone you list as being implicated by Wonko’s list is in the low-medium activity zone. My take is that the elims would need a decent amount of activity to reasonably aim for the L1 win, which conflicts with that list. Do you (and others) think that’s a baseless assumption? I suppose I can see Stick leading a quieter elim team in that direction.
DrakeMarshall he/him Posted March 3 Posted March 3 2 minutes ago, Araris Valerian said: Thanks! This all checks out to me. I’m not entirely sure about the last two bullets, but you’ve convinced me in principle, and made me more interested in hearing TJ’s thoughts on where to go from here. My gut still is trying to ignore him for whatever reason. What are your thoughts on Archer/coco? Also, I’m mildly concerned that everyone you list as being implicated by Wonko’s list is in the low-medium activity zone. My take is that the elims would need a decent amount of activity to reasonably aim for the L1 win, which conflicts with that list. Do you (and others) think that’s a baseless assumption? I suppose I can see Stick leading a quieter elim team in that direction. I used to lean village on Coco but after skimming previous days I've bumped the read back down to neutral. I don't remember specifically what posts made me revise sorry. Archer is an enigma. Purely in terms of my elim team profile I think Archer fits the bill, but I can't actually point at any specific reason to suspect Archer, so I'm probably not going to for now. I did say Archer looks better off of connectives but it's less so than Doc or Burnt. I do agree Stick is another candidate for someone who aims for the L1 win. I should admit that there is probably an activity bias in my connectives analysis. Players with more activity have more unpairing interactions, making them fit on less elim teams, making them seem more village. The inverse is also true, with less active players looking more suspicious. I still think the connectives are useful, and I don't believe the entire elim team is highly active, but it's worth bearing in mind. Who do you think constitutes the pool of 'high' activity players circa loop 1?
Through the living Wahr He/Him Posted March 3 Posted March 3 1 hour ago, DrakeMarshall said: I appreciate Wahr breaking it down though, I hadn’t thought of all that Thanks, I would say understanding the mechanics of the Game and how thigs will interact with stuff is more so my strong suit than getting reliable social reads, I am going mostly of of vibes in that regarde -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RP stuff to get more Rupees: Most of the evacutaed people hat set up camp near a Goron Smithy, It was definitely to cold here up n the mountains , he had heard that a bit further up the mountain, there were some hot springs, but the prices to enter were apparently quite high and Wahi had only a handfull of Rupees. When Sakons wagons moved towards the Goron village, Wahi had stayed back with the other Townsfolk, he had picked up a Sword from the Weapons Rack and was training some basic Moves, he wanted to be able to defend his live and that of the other Townsfolk, he may not know them very well, but maybe he could build a new life here with new friends, maybe his constant Nightmares about dying in a terrible Storm or drowning in a swamp would fade with time. 1
Stick. she/her Posted March 3 Posted March 3 mmmm i think yea ur right i prolly would’ve pushed for an L1 win as e regardless of my team composition cuz winning 3 consecutive loops means we wouldn’t have had to the play loop 4 and as e i usually want games over asap LOL so I would’ve gone for an all or nothing approach, although thinking a bit more about it I think that if any of my teammates were under heavy suspicion I would have advocated for a loss for L1 cuz imo that loop is better for elims to lose than any of the later loops? I haven’t done the math for it but that’s just what my heart says ….that said I only subbed in towards the end of L1 D2 so none of this is actually relevant cuz they obv made the decision to go for the win N1 with the holstered kill,, Good food for thought tho but anyway, a wonko kill is weird because killing a confirmed is optimal for N1 since that is the one turn no investigative or manipulative actions will happen since we’ll all be busy equipping the masks. u can always kill other nonconf villagers to dilute the pool of suspects later on in the loop if u expect u may end up losing 2 elims don’t rly think wonko can be e level 1 take here would be that it means divergent was e, but it could also mean Mistfallen is e and the kill was a preemptive response to them receiving pressure the previous day. also for lying about me lurking and never rly acknowledging it and their train basically becoming inconsequential by eod despite the number of ppl that expressed suspicion on them throughout the turn im also willing to vote Burnt for being an obvious teammate with mistfallen (plus my logic re: Mistfallen and the wonko nk applies to burnt as well, though maybe a tad less so for being somewhat “too on the nose”) won’t stop a TJ train obv interested to see his response @Araris Valerian I might’ve missed something but when did u go from “archer and wonko are both v” to “there’s got to be at least one e between them”? cuz i remember mind melding with that earlier take of urs during loop 1
Through the living Wahr He/Him Posted March 3 Posted March 3 (edited) 1 hour ago, Stick. said: but anyway, a wonko kill is weird because killing a confirmed is optimal for N1 since that is the one turn no investigative or manipulative actions will happen since we’ll all be busy equipping the masks. u can always kill other nonconf villagers to dilute the pool of suspects later on in the loop if u expect u may end up losing 2 elims I would say N3 Was the best Option since at that point the elims would know if they want to keep the Pool of softcleared viallgers small (by killing a confirmed villager) because they won the loop or if they wanted to increas the Pool for elim suspects (by killing someone with unknow allignment) because they had already lost the loop anyway. 1 hour ago, Stick. said: I would have advocated for a loss for L1 cuz imo that loop is better for elims to lose than any of the later loops? I haven’t done the math for it but that’s just what my heart says So I did the Math, with the following assumptions: a) All NKs Hit villagers b) the selection which Player is exed is truly random In that case the elims had a chance of 50,7% to win L1 74,5% to win L2,3,4 So I know that those are very basic calculations and they do absolutely not Account for Previous loop results (like confirmed villagers), Bremen mask, and social Interaction nor do they accurately represent L1 results (with multiple skipped NKs) But Its late and I cant be bothered to do more Math In conclusion Stick is right L1 is the best to throw for elims as it is easiest for Village to win no matter what and so a smaller loss for elims not to mention no hard cleared villagers for the following Loops Edited March 3 by Wahrheitswächter 1
Stick. she/her Posted March 3 Posted March 3 yuss thank u 10 minutes ago, Wahrheitswächter said: I would say N3 Was the best Option since at that point the elims would know if they want to keep the Pool of softcleared viallgers small (by killing a confirmed villager) because they won the loop or if they wanted to increas the Pool for elim suspects (by killing someone with unknow allignment) because they had already lost the loop anyway. that makes sense but during N3 they’ll be at greater risk of hard outing an alive elim (ie the nk carrier) via Mask of Scents, Kreaton Mask, and Don Gero or risking a no kill via Bremen or Stone Mask. would probably be not so great if they’re at the stage where they’ve lost 2 already
Through the living Wahr He/Him Posted March 3 Posted March 3 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Stick. said: that makes sense but during N3 they’ll be at greater risk of hard outing an alive elim (ie the nk carrier) via Mask of Scents, Kreaton Mask, and Don Gero or risking a no kill via Bremen or Stone Mask. would probably be not so great if they’re at the stage where they’ve lost 2 already But the Risk of those Masks is always there in N3 they can only guess who has them its in now way guaranted that confirmed vilkagers have any of those and Keaton Mask is most likely not even in Game yet. So I would say the diffrence regarding Masks is negligebel Edited March 3 by Wahrheitswächter
Doc12 Posted March 3 Posted March 3 My PMs! The blast mask conversation last night was interesting - I admit I'm still not the best at following the mechanics. The gist I got was that more dead villagers is better? 19 hours ago, Mistfallen Soldier said: No, actually, it can be a loop 1 all over again as it’s purely based on player count and ratios. And yes, they can choose to not NK, this could be a loop 1. With 3 lynches that puts it into a 9v4. Elims win that, with no NKs. But in that case we know we have 3 more confirmed villagers. With no NKs, we only have to exe 1 Elim, with NKs, we exe 2. Because we’re waiting till N3B we’ll know whether we want to blow up the Blast mask or not. So my understanding of the debate is Mist saying - more dead this cycle makes it easier to isolate next loop. With 8 dead and 8 alive, win or lose, we can go from there? And Wonko is saying Elims can choose not to NK, which Mist responds by saying if Elims choose not to NK then we choose not to trigger the mask. Okay, now that I actually spelled it out to myself I guess I do see the argument. But I suppose that plan is shot anyways with PMs no longer active. 19 hours ago, Mistfallen Soldier said: Okay, so I’m very split on what this means. If Wonko is village, that means the Elims want us to try to explode the blast mask. If he’s Elim, they could be trying to hide an Elim and let us win, or trying to get us to second guess using the blast mask… Why is this still an option? We can't explode the blast mask ourselves anymore can we? I mean we could send Bremen and Scents but we'd be shooting in the dark and losing valuable masks. 4 hours ago, Ashbringer said: And I wouldn't be too sure of e!Dive. Could be the Elim team thinks they'll lose members to the Exe, could be they thought Wonko more likely to allow for the PM cutoff, could be that it's v!Dive e!Wonko as a pretty devastating DGG if we don't read into it. (I don't think it's that, but it still could be.) Apologies, but could you explain this sentence a little more? What's does PM cutoff mean here? 1 hour ago, Stick. said: im also willing to vote Burnt for being an obvious teammate with mistfallen (plus my logic re: Mistfallen and the wonko nk applies to burnt as well, though maybe a tad less so for being somewhat “too on the nose”) won’t stop a TJ train obv interested to see his response @Araris Valerian I might’ve missed something but when did u go from “archer and wonko are both v” to “there’s got to be at least one e between them”? cuz i remember mind melding with that earlier take of urs during loop 1 How does Burnt being an obvious teammate with Mistfallen square with Burnt becoming a counterwagon to Mistfallen? I thought they wouldn't be e-e based on the way the trains switched mid-cycle. 19 hours ago, Archer said: Guess that answers why Wonko was against blowing up the postman! Cancel the visit to the Powder Keg Shop D3... So why not shoot confirmed villager Wahr, who claimed vanilla? Educated guess about the postman and a desire to shut down PMs? Want to avoid giving them 50 rupees? You've got to think Ashbringer was a more subtle target if it has to do with the Burnt vote, although he wasn't very committed to it. I'd like to zero in on Araris (who keeps giving very safe/correct analysis sparsely) and Doc. "Janci Patterson", if PMs went through. Also Archer, you wanted to zero in on me and Araris early this cycle, but are now on TJ? Solved your cipher for Burnt too, btw. Can I get one for myself? I don't know what to think of TJ - I know he hasn't really been here. I remember giving him a quick catchup when he asked L2D1, but I don't think we've seen him since? If e!TJ, who would his teammates be? Feel similarly null about Araris - Archer does have a point that they've been sparse. He's definitely more engaged than TJ, but has a similar level of presence for me. It's funny that he's lampshading that he is within his own suspect pool given his parameters. Lastly, surprised that we're not just exeing Burnt from last cycle.
Ashbringer he/him Posted March 3 Posted March 3 1 minute ago, Doc12 said: Apologies, but could you explain this sentence a little more? What's does PM cutoff mean here? Maybe the Elim team had reason to believe that Wonko held the PM Mask, either from an earlier PM or just intuition that Wonko would go for it. Then the Elims maybe decided that aiming to shut down PMs was better than aiming for a better NK target. Besides, I don't think a single person E-read Wonko. Not sure why people are surprised he got NKed. But I don't think that's enough to confirm V!Wonko or otherwise confirm E!Dive.
Doc12 Posted March 3 Posted March 3 Zymni was missing, again. Thistle did their best not to worry. They were in a new place, and Zymni loved exploring new places. She'd usually stick with Thistle, but when she got impatient it wasn't unheard of for her to sneak between other people's shadows... Could they have accidentally left her behind again? Thistle had been distracted in the morning, had forgotten their vow to not let go of Zymni's hands until they were safe again. Could Zymni be sheltering in a shadowy crag outside, unable to reach them? Thistle wandered from shop to shop, checking shadows urgently. Maybe they could find Cindra, Amora, they've seen Zymni, they could also keep a look out for her... "Zymni, don't you do this to me again..." they hiss under their breath. "Zymni please..." They break into a run, increasingly fearful. "Zymni, where are you??" 2
Archer he/him Posted March 4 Posted March 4 1 hour ago, Doc12 said: Also Archer, you wanted to zero in on me and Araris early this cycle, but are now on TJ? Solved your cipher for Burnt too, btw. Can I get one for myself? It's a long day, plenty of time to circle back. Still reading people's mail, huh? Spoiler First in selfie trio. Spanish lover. Water starter. Macaulay's brother. Jar Jar would be proud. Unconsonants. Sans serif font. Our hero? Super Mario shouts: Spanish lover. Scottish flower. Colour (with a twist, see) Lorde album, diluted.
Doc12 Posted March 4 Posted March 4 1 hour ago, Archer said: It's a long day, plenty of time to circle back. Still reading people's mail, huh? Reveal hidden contents First in selfie trio. Spanish lover. Water starter. Macaulay's brother. Jar Jar would be proud. Unconsonants. Sans serif font. Our hero? Super Mario shouts: Spanish lover. Scottish flower. Colour (with a twist, see) Lorde album, diluted. You've stumped me I got the key from Thistle, but I couldn't figure out Jar jar and the font clue. In the end, I have either Mask Coal Watch or Mask Goal Watch.
Myst He/Him Posted March 4 Posted March 4 And yall were getting mad at me for talking to Archer in code. Not sure what I think so far, I feel like the Elims would NK whether Dive was Elim or not. As it makes sure we have to kill two Elims. An NK does seem weird, especially since Loop 1 they waited till N2. But honestly, hindsight will play a large role here in loop 3. I feel like Doc had a pretty good point about how there was a train on Burnt D1B, but now it’s not there(it’s why I waited) and that makes me feel like we need to continue it. I know people have shifted to TJ, but I haven’t seen anything from the people who voted Burnt on why they aren’t now, aside from being sus of TJ. As such Burnt I’m not sure I want to exe TJ, as most of his inactivity was from real life stuff and I don’t want to exe him over that. There were some good points, but I think the Burnt train needs to reappear because it vanished immediately after D1B
coco.pudding she/they Posted March 4 Posted March 4 Right, so I’ve been going back through previous posts and while I was originally only going to include those whose names are mainly being tossed around right now, I decided to just put in everyone, because idk, maybe that’s helpful. Since this will be very long, I’m going to put it in a spoiler box Spoiler TUM - Hard cleared due to last loop. Hasn’t been super active. Asked to be exed for the sake of a rupee reset, which was obliged. Araris - He’s been very safe with his posts so far, not posting too much that’s a new idea or specifically driving conversation (until this cycle). This has been noted by others as well. He has also changed his reads on people multiple times (going from saying Archer and Wonko and probably both village to now it seems like Archer is one of his main suspects) in rather drastic ways, which I understand is how the game works, but still. He also has been saying he’s “wary” of myself and Archer but hasn’t actually offered much explanation as to why and did not answer when asked about it. He also started the Divergent train and then at the end of the day decided he didn’t like it, but did not remove his vote. He did something similar with Wahr, starting the vote because of a misunderstanding but then not removing it when that was cleared and it gained traction, although he then proceeded to call suspicion onto the people on that train. Araris is my strongest elim read at the moment. Wahr - Hard cleared due to last loop. Has been decently active. Was exed because he was acting kind of strange and very defensive. Sorry about that, Wahr. But hey, at least you’re hard cleared now! Ashbringer - Hard cleared due to last loop. Hasn’t been very active in discussion, mostly doing rp. Got NKed, presumably because of low activity? TJ - Has not been very active. Stuff seems to keep coming up? That could just be an excuse, and he’s trying to fly under the radar, but I’m inclined to believe him because I haven’t seen him in the “recently browsing” section very much and it’s brought attention to him, so if he was elim I don’t think he would stick with that at all strategy. While there is a chance he’s both actually busy and an elim, I don’t think it’s very high. Kind of concerned about how many votes he’s getting right now. Light village read, but mostly neutral due to lack of posts. Honors Ghost/Stick - Seemed to actually be inactive rather than just faking it since they needed to get Stick in to pinch hit. Stick seems to be participating in discussion fairly productively and bringing up some good points. There was a train starting on them about halfway through D1 but I don’t remember anyone fighting particularly hard against it or really anything that seemed like a counter train, although the votes were a bit of a mess the whole time, so I may have just missed something. I had a thought at one point that maybe HG was elim and realized they weren’t active enough to do well, so decided to just call in a pinch hitter and be done, but Stick’s posts since then have changed my mind on that front. I also targeted them with Bremen N2 last loop (for that reason) but that didn’t do anything. Village read. Hael - I feel like Hael is one of the more inactive players, but upon looking back at the last cycle, that’s just not super accurate. I’m just not getting much from his posts. But it does seem like he’s contributing at least a little bit, and has been giving important PSAs. He was tied with TUM to be exed D3A but wasn’t really ever in danger (unless someone had added another vote, of course, but that’s didn’t happen) because of how ties work. So while that does give him some village cred, I don’t know that it means as much as we want it to. Pretty neutral read, maybe very light village. Wonko - NKed last night. Probably postman? Seemed very against the idea of blowing up the postman. Was briefly sussed for bringing up elim strategy stuff D1A but most people agreed it seemed pretty genuine. Has been fairly active and contributing to discussion quite a bit, bringing up good points. Started the Mistfallen train D1 which seemed a bit weird, but did offer some explanation, and did later change their vote. Got Bunny first loop but didn’t get much use out of it. Was maybe trying to get enough rupees for a higher tier mask? That’s not really going to be possible anymore though. I guess that’s a potential reason to kill them. Light village read. Doc - Was postman last loop and used that pretty well. Offered a list of all PM senders/receivers, which was fairly helpful. Also gives us an idea of people who might not be elims together, as sending PMs to each other doesn’t make a whole lot of sense when they have a doc for that (haha silly pun) and we didn’t know the postman was told who sends/receives them until later. Has also been contributing to discussion, posting some reads and analysis, etc. After the last game I feel like I shouldn’t trust him, but I feel like he’s been doing fairly villagery things. So light village read. Burnt - I’m kind of struggling to get a good read on Burnt at the moment. She has been decently active, but not a crazy amount. Maybe bare minimum for rupees? Lots of rp. The train on her yesterday was pretty large and it seemed to be switching back and forth between her and Divergent quite a bit. I thought she might try to cram in more posts for extra rupees, but didn’t see that happening, although Divergent did end up pulling ahead anyway. I also thought if she is elim they would have maybe tried to defend her a bit more, but that didn’t happen. I’m a little confused about what was going on with all the vote trains D1. I would have been fine with her being exed then, and I still would be now, she’s just not the top of my list. Light elim read? But also fairly neutral. Coder/Drake - Coder was decently active but doing more rp than discussion from what I remember. Nothing really stood out to me from their posts in either direction. Drake has also been quite active, and doing more discussion than rp. I like what he is saying and he’s bringing up good points. He also needed some clarification on rules and such when he first joined in, which I feel like an elim would have just asked the other elims about. Village read. Mistfallen - Has consistently been the most active person here. Contributing a lot to discussion and often leading it. Had scents mask last loop, but didn’t learn much from it. The train on them yesterday gained a lot of momentum very quickly and then lost it very quickly, which is a little bit concerning. I found that train a bit odd since I feel like most people have been mainly reading village from them. It’s possible that they are elim and the elims decided to start/hop on to a counterwagon on Burnt and/or Divergent to stop them from being exed, but I kind of doubt that. Village read. Divergent - Has been consistently active. Contributing to discussion and bringing up good points. Had don gero loop 1 but unfortunately didn’t find anything with it. I did find some of their posts slightly off, and I feel like I don’t have as much of a read on them as I should for how active they’ve been, which is slightly concerning. Also concerning to me is how quickly the train on them grew and all of the chaos at the end of the day. I voted on them to tie it between them and Burnt, assuming it would probably stay that way since it was close to rollover, and I wasn’t sure which would win in a tie and was fine with either being exed, but the amount of change that occurred at the end of the day makes me think one of them is probably elim. I just don’t know which. Light elim read. But if Burnt ends up being elim, then village, and vice versa. Archer - Consistently active and adding a lot to discussion. I was a little bit suspicious D1 since they only decided to start discussing elim strategy and all that after Wonko already had, meaning it was already on their mind and they just didn’t want to discuss it until someone else had already started that conversation. There was also the code stuff with Mistfallen, but I don’t really think that’s an issue since we did find out what they were talking about and they were very open about it once the loop was over. They wanted to know about who had which masks and what was discovered at the start of this loop and were sort of leading conversation around that. I was (and am) still a bit suspicious of them towards the end of the first loop so I did use Bremen on them. I guess they could have sent in the kill and I managed to block it, but I honestly don’t know. I really can’t get a good read on them, which I feel like is kind of a problem considering how active they’ve been. I’m leaning village, but it could really go either way. Hoid Slayer - “Inactive” but not really. Not contributing to discussion for the most part and throwing in random votes for the sake of chaos. I did have an elim read on him, assuming that he was kind of faking the inactivity and using it to go under the radar a bit since he was actually posting quite a lot and looking at the thread a lot, but he has requested a pinch hitter, so that theory is out the window now. I’ll wait on a read until the pinch hitter gets in here. Wow that was a lot I just spent like 2 hours on that post, yay effort I guess 9 minutes ago, Mistfallen Soldier said: And yall were getting mad at me for talking to Archer in code. Not sure what I think so far, I feel like the Elims would NK whether Dive was Elim or not. As it makes sure we have to kill two Elims. An NK does seem weird, especially since Loop 1 they waited till N2. But honestly, hindsight will play a large role here in loop 3. I feel like Doc had a pretty good point about how there was a train on Burnt D1B, but now it’s not there(it’s why I waited) and that makes me feel like we need to continue it. I know people have shifted to TJ, but I haven’t seen anything from the people who voted Burnt on why they aren’t now, aside from being sus of TJ. As such Burnt I’m not sure I want to exe TJ, as most of his inactivity was from real life stuff and I don’t want to exe him over that. There were some good points, but I think the Burnt train needs to reappear because it vanished immediately after D1B I definitely agree on the Burnt train, it was pretty big and now has just immediately vanished? Very odd. Especially since it’s pretty clear TJ is inactive due to irl stuff, I’m not really sure why people are so sus of him. So Araris Burnt ——————— Amora helps people get settled in, finding food and blankets, just as she had done the last time. As she is assisting a small family get settled in to finally sleep, she sees Thistle running by in distress, and follows. “Thistle! Hey! What’s wrong?”
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