Biplet she/her Posted July 25, 2025 Posted July 25, 2025 Well that sucks. I don’t understand why he didn’t say anything
Doc12 Posted July 25, 2025 Posted July 25, 2025 I don't know what to say. There's really nothing to say, I suppose. There really isn't much to go on now. Ksauce started the train, but we really were all agreed that Worldhopper seemed the most suspicious.
The Unknown Medallion he/him Posted July 25, 2025 Posted July 25, 2025 That's unfortunate. It certainly gives information about the vote state d1. I'll try to analyze that tomorrow.
Walin he/him Posted July 25, 2025 Posted July 25, 2025 Hmmm. Well, I’m still busy and I forgot to check the thread, but this doesn’t bode well for the village. In payment for posting without analysis or even RP, I’ll roleclaim as Thug. And then try to fit my analysis/RP in during the day cycle.
StrikerEZ he/him Posted July 25, 2025 Author Posted July 25, 2025 @TwinStorm @The Unknown Order @KaladinsSenseOfHumorSpren @Araris Valerian @|TJ| @Doc12 @Biplet @Sart @Walin There's only about half an hour left in the turn. Make sure to get all of your actions in before rollover!
The Unknown Medallion he/him Posted July 25, 2025 Posted July 25, 2025 30 minutes ago, Walin said: Hmmm. Well, I’m still busy and I forgot to check the thread, but this doesn’t bode well for the village. In payment for posting without analysis or even RP, I’ll roleclaim as Thug. And then try to fit my analysis/RP in during the day cycle. Oh God. Anyone else want to claim thug?
StrikerEZ he/him Posted July 25, 2025 Author Posted July 25, 2025 And that's the turn! No more posting, submitting actions, or PMing until the next turn is posted. This one shouldn't take me too long as I was able to prewrite the writeup. Yay!
StrikerEZ he/him Posted July 25, 2025 Author Posted July 25, 2025 Yomen worked while the others all slept. He pored over the ledgers his accountants had left for him. He didn't care about the boxings, not now, just the amount of supplies. Thankfully the Lord Ruler had left them a large supply of canned goods down here. It was as if their god had planned for the end of the world. Yomen was thankful for His foresight. Though he feared it wouldn't be enough. The ground shook as a guard burst into Yomen's tent. "Another killing," the man spluttered. Yomen was on his feet immediately, chasing the guard as he was led through the crowded cave tunnels. Most people were trying to flee the scene of the crime. When they got their, Yomen's heart stopped for a moment. Chanarash, the stranger with the mystical blade, was standing over a dead body, some poor skaa woman. What had Chanarash done? But no, Chanarash was clearly badly wounded as well. She was closing the eyes of the dead woman. Yomen got there just in time to hear the stranger whisper something about the Tranquiline Halls. "What happened here?" Yomen demanded. "We were attacked," Chanarash muttered as Yomen's soldiers helped her up. She had multiple severe stab wounds. "Surprised, by a figure shrouded in a dark cloak. I barely had time to glance at them before they got me. As I was recovering from my wounds, they got Mara here. I had just been asking her about her life, to see what it is like to live as a skaa here on Scadrial. To think she is now dead because of me...." Chanarash kept muttering as they were carried away. Could they be lying? Yomen thought to himself. He would have to keep a careful eye on that stranger. For now he needed to make sure they wouldn't starve this week. ~~~~~~~ KaladinsSenseOfHumorSpren was attacked, but survived! Doc12 has been killed! They were a Village Seeker! Someone has left an anonymous message for everyone to see: Quote So rock me, mama, like a wagon wheel Rock me, mama, any way you feel Hey, mama, rock me Rock me, mama, like the wind and the rain Rock me, mama, like a southbound train Hey, mama, rock me There will be an execution during this Day turn. Tied votes will result in a random player within the tie being removed. In addition, PMs are still open for this turn. PMs can include as many players as you like. All PMs must also include myself and the IM, @little wilson. Player List: Spoiler @TwinStorm @The Unknown Order @KaladinsSenseOfHumorSpren - Chanarash, IT'S TIME FOR A CRUSADE @Araris Valerian - Aralis, a non-believer of Spiked @|TJ| ThatOneWorldhopper Village Oracle Aeoryi Village Soother Kidpen Villager Doc12 Village Seeker @Biplet @Sart - DJ Sart, not sure what a DJ is, but he’s got background music following him around at all times @Walin - Walin, some guy whose name sounds so familiar…. This turn will end at 4 PM CDT on Sunday, July 27th. 2
Araris Valerian he/him Posted July 25, 2025 Posted July 25, 2025 Oof. Well, Doc scanned me N1. If anyone wants to contest that claim feel free. Everyone probably realizes now that I’m not a Seeker. My current list of suspicions from most to least: TJ Sart Walin TUO Twinstorm Biplet KSauce If we assume the elims were involved in the D1 exe, then it’s pretty likely Sart or TJ is elim. I’m honestly not sure which I’m more suspicious of. Sart noted in his D2 post Doc’s activity level, which could be tied to the NK on Doc. KSauce is at the bottom for getting attacked, and Biplet for the same PM reasons I mentioned previously. If I had to guess I’d say the elims have a Mistborn that pulled Steel, but it could be a village Mistborn or a Coinshot that didn’t shoot N1. I don’t really see why a village Coinshot would attack KSauce though. I have roleclaims from Biplet, TwinStorm, KSauce, and Walin (some of these were passed on to me via Doc). It would be nice if the remaining folks could PM me their roles; having a clearer picture of the distro can’t hurt right now.
KaladinsSenseOfHumourSpren He/Him Posted July 25, 2025 Posted July 25, 2025 Chanarash drew in Stormlight. She only had so much she had brought from Roshar and this storming planet didn't have highstorms at all. She was still recovering from her wounds, however, and needed it. Chanarash agreed with Aralis in that her attacker was probably Spiked. Since she had nothing else to go by, she would join Aralis in voting TJ.
The Unknown Medallion he/him Posted July 25, 2025 Posted July 25, 2025 This could be the most insanely elim gambit ever
Araris Valerian he/him Posted July 26, 2025 Posted July 26, 2025 Well, from the various folks that have claimed to me there are at least 3 thugs this game. So a gambit isn’t completely off the table.
|TJ| he/him Posted July 26, 2025 Posted July 26, 2025 I'm a Lurcher. I protected Sart N1 and myself N2. TwinStorm (2): Araris Valerian, Biplet ThatOneWorldhopper (2): Aeoryi, Doc12, Kidpen Kidpen (2): |TJ|, Sart Sart (1): ThatOneWorldhopper Walin (1): TwinStorm Still holding the assumption that D1 vote manipulation was elim-motivated and not done by Aeo, TwinStorm appears village as the the Soother makes him one of the contender to die. From D1 and D2 posts, I have a very good village read of Sart. His post D2 on suspecting me if TOW was evil does not come from evil perspective imo. That leaves me with TUO, Araris, Biplet, KSauce and Walin. Of the 5, we have an attack survivor and a 2 Thug claimees... I don't know what to make of all the Thug claims, that makes it 3 Thugs + 1 Lurcher in the game, which seems to be an excess of protects. I don't see this unless there's at least some combination of 0/1 Coinshot and 1/2 Mistborn/s. e!Coinshot is not possible, they would have shot in N1. v!Coinshot who holstered N1 and shot N2 is possible. Both v and e Mistborns are more than likely. Doc's death kinda weird here because N2 is still quite early for a returning player to be killed, which makes me wonder if it's related to his roleclaim and implicates Araris. I'm guessing Doc's death to be NK and KSauce attack would either be from a holstered v!Coinshot or v!Mistborn or, equally likely imo, WGG by an e!Mistborn. Obviously, there isn't going to be a counter to Araris' claim so either he is village or he is/has an evil Smoker teammate. So we have e!Soother behavior from D1 and e!Smoker behaviour from D2. Keeping in mind the amount of protect claims we've have, I think it's possible that the elim team has 2 Mistborns? Pretty sure they have at least 1 and the game has 2. Looking at [Araris, Biplet, KSauce] for now. @Araris Valerian, did Doc scan you as a regular or your actual role? Or both? Thoughts, @The Unknown Order @Walin @Sart @Biplet?
Araris Valerian he/him Posted July 26, 2025 Posted July 26, 2025 3 minutes ago, |TJ| said: @Araris Valerian, did Doc scan you as a regular or your actual role? Or both? As my actual role. 4 minutes ago, |TJ| said: His post D2 on suspecting me if TOW was evil does not come from evil perspective imo. Could you elaborate? I can see an elim making a statement like that, especially if you two are on a team together. TOW flips village and then he gets to ignore you. 7 minutes ago, |TJ| said: Looking at [Araris, Biplet, KSauce] for now. I really don’t like this. KSauce was attacked, Biplet claimed to me in response to my Seeker gambit, and then there’s me. I have strong reason to village read every single person you are suspicious of.
|TJ| he/him Posted July 26, 2025 Posted July 26, 2025 4 minutes ago, Araris Valerian said: As my actual role. Any way to prove this? This would be the best way for me to dispel my e!you theory. 6 minutes ago, Araris Valerian said: Could you elaborate? I can see an elim making a statement like that, especially if you two are on a team together. TOW flips village and then he gets to ignore you. Yes, but from my POV there's no point in setting up my ML on the basis that TOW is evil if he knows TOW is village. 8 minutes ago, Araris Valerian said: I really don’t like this. KSauce was attacked, Biplet claimed to me in response to my Seeker gambit, and then there’s me. I have strong reason to village read every single person you are suspicious of. Do we have any reason to believe KSauce is the elim kill and not Doc? Like I said, I believe the Doc kill is weirdly specific, something is wrong there. Could you explain the Bip convo a bit more? No reason why a villager should claim when someone says "I have scanned you as regular Villager".
Araris Valerian he/him Posted July 26, 2025 Posted July 26, 2025 @StrikerEZ, are Coinshot/Spiked kills distinguished in these rules? 16 minutes ago, |TJ| said: Any way to prove this? This would be the best way for me to dispel my e!you theory. Nope. 18 minutes ago, |TJ| said: Could you explain the Bip convo a bit more? No reason why a villager should claim when someone says "I have scanned you as regular Villager". This might be hard without an actual roleclaim from Bip, which I'm not going to do on her behalf. I'm also not going to say my take here is infallible, it's just better than what I have for other players. 21 minutes ago, |TJ| said: Yes, but from my POV there's no point in setting up my ML on the basis that TOW is evil if he knows TOW is village. Mentioning a connection then just looks like solving without actually contributing anything. IMO the comment could come from either perspective, and works for e!Sart particularly if the two of you are on a team (of course, I'm a bit skeptical of that since you voted together D1).
StrikerEZ he/him Posted July 26, 2025 Author Posted July 26, 2025 47 minutes ago, Araris Valerian said: @StrikerEZ, are Coinshot/Spiked kills distinguished in these rules? Nope.
Araris Valerian he/him Posted July 26, 2025 Posted July 26, 2025 1 hour ago, |TJ| said: Do we have any reason to believe KSauce is the elim kill and not Doc? Like I said, I believe the Doc kill is weirdly specific, something is wrong there. Could you explain the Bip convo a bit more? No reason why a villager should claim when someone says "I have scanned you as regular Villager". I was assuming both were elim kills, honestly. Also, it seems like the Thugs have all been pretty liberal with their claims, so it could be the case that the elims already had a bunch of people they didn't want to attack. Doc makes sense as a kill because he was active in PMs with every other player. That's a lot of potential information for the village.
|TJ| he/him Posted July 26, 2025 Posted July 26, 2025 3 hours ago, Araris Valerian said: Nope. Sigh. Regarding Sart, he feels quite contributory the whole game and there's been quite a bit of mindmeld feeling I've gotten regarding a bunch of stuff the whole game. Okay, hmm, if I have to discount Araris (at least for this cycle, looks like it's no dice from everyone else), my TUO e-credence rises. Also, in case my e!Soother theory is wrong and it was just Aeoryi's Soothe in D1, TwinStorm e-credence also rises. Biplet is still there, but in my earlier post, both Biplet and KSauce were sorta associative with Araris, so I don't know... TUO I guess...
Biplet she/her Posted July 26, 2025 Posted July 26, 2025 1 hour ago, |TJ| said: Biplet is still there, but in my earlier post, both Biplet and KSauce were sorta associative with Araris, so I don't know... I suppose if you suspect Araris, and Araris is backing me strong village, it's easy to connect me to him. I'm not going to roleclaim in thread because I think that puts a target on my back and I don't usually do that unless we're desperate LOL. Ksauce I can't see the suspicion because they were just attacked and a N2 WGG seems crazy early?? Also, is your WGG thought under the assumption that an e!Mistborn drew steel and shot, or that they used the NK for it. Because you said doc was the NK so if Ksauce wasn't, that presumes that elims wouldn't immediately use steel to get rid of two village and instead use it as a WGG on someone who isn't really a suspect?
Araris Valerian he/him Posted July 26, 2025 Posted July 26, 2025 @|TJ| what are your thoughts on the Thugs? Do you think the elims would have a Thug? I'm kinda working with a 3-person elim team right now. Mistborn/Soother/Thug or Mistborn/Soother/Lurcher both seem reasonable with a village Coinshot. I just don't really see a way in which a village Seeker, village Lurcher, and village Coinshot/Mistborn can coexist with 2-3 village Thugs. Which means the elims probably have a Mistborn that pulled Steel (or a CS that held off to confuse us). That frees up the last slot to be a Smoker, though I'm not 100% sure the elims would have one of those. Honestly wish whoever took the shot last night would claim, that would make sorting through this a lot easier. @Sart I'd really like to hear your thoughts/tunes as well, since you're a bit of an unknown quantity for me right now.
|TJ| he/him Posted July 27, 2025 Posted July 27, 2025 @Araris Valerian If there is an evil Thug, I can see a Mistborn/Smoker/Thug team. Replaced a Soother in your team with a Smoker because I think protect against Seeking is quite important to them. If you're keeping a Soother in the team because of D1, remember, e!Mistborn could have drawn Soother. 3 Thugs + Lurcher village team should have either 1 Mistborn/1 Coinshot or 2 Mistborn, both of which would have balance issues making the game very swingy. And yeah, @Biplet, I don't know what I was thinking re: WGG on KSauce, most likely an elim shot or less likely - v!CS/MB
StrikerEZ he/him Posted July 27, 2025 Author Posted July 27, 2025 @TwinStorm @The Unknown Order @KaladinsSenseOfHumorSpren @Araris Valerian @|TJ| @Biplet @Sart @Walin There are just over 4 hours left in the turn. Make sure to get any and all votes/actions in before rollover! Current VC: |TJ| (2): KaladinsSenseOfHumorSpren, Araris Valerian The Unknown Order (1): |TJ|
TwinStorm He/Him Posted July 27, 2025 Posted July 27, 2025 I don't trust TJ rn. Unfortunately I don't have time to talk abt it rn, but hopefully later I can address my suspicions.
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