Autism/neurodivergence club

[Deception He/Him]

Yeah. I quite recently discovered that a lot of the things about me that I thought applied to everyone actually were unique to me, for better or for worse. I have some light sensitivity because of my autism, but a few weeks ago I thought that everyone had to squint for 2 minutes after stepping out into bright sunlight. I always knew my flow state was special though, even if I'm unsure whether it was real understanding or just my massive ego that caused that.

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[Aeoryi she/her]

4 minutes ago, Deception said:

Yeah. I quite recently discovered that a lot of the things about me that I thought applied to everyone actually were unique to me, for better or for worse. I have some light sensitivity because of my autism, but a few weeks ago I thought that everyone had to squint for 2 minutes after stepping out into bright sunlight. I always knew my flow state was special though, even if I'm unsure whether it was real understanding or just my massive ego that caused that.

you should get a pfp:3

I mean I've always assumed I've been broken because of the way I was built incorrectly, growing up in an entirely neurotypical household and facing constant ableism because I happened to be the only one in the bloodline to have a mental disorder of any kind

[Deception He/Him]

Pfp? @Aeoryi

[Aeoryi she/her]

3 minutes ago, Deception said:

Pfp? @Aeoryi

"Profile Picture"

Like, the little icon that appears near your name when you post, yours is a light red letter 'D' at the moment

helps with personality, even if it's a random image. 

[Deception He/Him]

I realized that was what u meant and have spend that last 5 minutes looking for the button to change it but I can't find the button. WHERE?

 

EDIT: FOUND IT!!!!!

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found the button

[Aeoryi she/her]

1 minute ago, Deception said:

I realized that was what u meant and have spend that last 5 minutes looking for the button to change it but I can't find the button. WHERE?

 

EDIT: FOUND IT!!!!!

check your profile. Top left coroner

[Deception He/Him]

Yay. Look at my new pic.

[Aeoryi she/her]

3 minutes ago, Deception said:

Yay. Look at my new pic.

epic spiral

[Deception He/Him]

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[Adonalsium Will Return He/him]

13 minutes ago, Deception said:

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[Deception He/Him]

4 minutes ago, Adonalsium Will Return said:

Not anymore

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[Aeoryi she/her]

You never gonna know

Whether it is worth it to follow the truth

But why, why 

Was it a lie

That no one could know my mind

[Keteᛕ He/Him/His]

Oh boy I was wondering if there was an autism thread. Hi y'all!

[Verdance he/him]

12 hours ago, Aeoryi said:

I find my interests change fairly often. 

Somewhat, yes

to stave off the growing existential doom of universal meanin

8 hours ago, Deception said:

Yea.

People with ADHD can hyper focus if whatever they are doing is intense, high stakes, highly stimulating, or if they just get lucky (according to the internet - idk if this is true about you).

From my personal experience and from my research I know that autism makes you lock on to one single interest and practice it way too much, which is bad in the short term and socially but long term / career wise there are advantages. It also allows me to enter a flow state while doing something that I really enjoy, leading to me getting work done extremely fast (up to 3x faster than neurotypical people).

Neurodivergence is a tradeoff*, not a disability. Always.

 

*not saying it can't be an unfavorable tradeoff, but there are advantages.

 

It's like, have you ever found some new shiny thing you want to learn and then just figured out so much about it so fast because it was just so interesting? Well, neurotypical people can't really do that.

Yes, tradeoff, sort of

Like over time my brain developed by giving away charisma stats (social adeptness or comfort) for intelligence stats (thats a lie i got dumber as i grew up)

8 hours ago, Aeoryi said:

... advantages?

There are advantages! 

Combine ASD and ADHD and you get someone who is really good at hyperfocusing on one thing so quickly it becomes boring, exploiting every detail

like legitimately this has ruined many videogames for me because i consume media i like incredibly quickly and get not the best at it but very good at it

I have also heard some ASD people are really good at picking up on deception cues even though they’re bad at social interaction or just straight up master an instrument just by picking it up 

8 hours ago, Deception said:

Yeah. I quite recently discovered that a lot of the things about me that I thought applied to everyone actually were unique to me, for better or for worse. I have some light sensitivity because of my autism, but a few weeks ago I thought that everyone had to squint for 2 minutes after stepping out into bright sunlight. I always knew my flow state was special though, even if I'm unsure whether it was real understanding or just my massive ego that caused that.

Flow state is it

caffeine and music can often do it at which state i legitimately do not know when time begins

8 hours ago, Aeoryi said:

I mean to be fair I don't necessarily know what it's like to have autism. (My parents had me autism tested twice though at a young age lol)

I have grown up with a diagnosis for ADHD since I was like, 7 or 8 years of age. But idk if that constitutes neurodivergence... autism tends to be a completely different set of characteristics than ADHD so I'm hesitant to say I resonate with you or whatever

thank you for your reply though

They are both neurodivergence! Just different kinds!

and if it makes you feel more comfortable, since all neurodivergence manifests differently for different people, feel free to look at it as less of a condition and more of a lens to view behavior through

[Deception He/Him]

1 hour ago, Verdance said:

feel free to look at it as less of a condition and more of a lens to view behavior through

I'm going to keep calling it a condition so I don't have to type something super long like "lens to view behavior through" or "neurological difference" every time. Besides, while those tags are more accurate to describe neurodivergent people, they also sound a lot like the euphemisms that we use to describe actually disabled people through, which is really annoying. 

[Verdance he/him]

1 minute ago, Deception said:

I'm going to keep calling it a condition so I don't have to type something super long like "lens to view behavior through" or "neurological difference" every time. Besides, while those tags are more accurate to describe neurodivergent people, they also sound a lot like the euphemisms that we use to describe actually disabled people through, which is really annoying. 

Mmm

yeah shorthand is literally fine for me, i use it way more often actually

that is annoying

[Deception He/Him]

23 hours ago, Verdance said:

anyhoe im curious if anyone else has simultaneous instances of ADHD and ASD snd how that functions

I know someone with this, it's called AuDHD.

He can get the same flow state as an autistic person, probably a more intense flow actually, but because of his ADHD it's a lot easier for him to see something that looks fun while in a flow state and then get distracted doomscrolling or gaming. 

Also according to the internet, a lot of the time people with AuDHD get diagnosed with just ADHD and not autism because ADHD covers up a lot of the social anxiety from autism sometimes. Apparently that didn't happen with the kid I know, though.

[Verdance he/him]

1 minute ago, Deception said:

I know someone with this, it's called AuDHD.

He can get the same flow state as an autistic person, probably a more intense flow actually, but because of his ADHD it's a lot easier for him to see something that looks fun while in a flow state and then get distracted doomscrolling or gaming. 

Also according to the internet, a lot of the time people with AuDHD get diagnosed with just ADHD and not autism because ADHD covers up a lot of the social anxiety from autism sometimes. Apparently that didn't happen with the kid I know, though.

Especially online, autism or introvertedness does not really exist

thats because i am actively being introverted by hiding in a my room though

[Ink and Embers Any pronouns]

11 hours ago, Deception said:

For social anxiety, I just try to push through while at school and recover at home. It usually goes fine. I don't have specific anxiety causing condition, though - just autism, which creates anxiety because of sensory overload and social problems, but doesn't directly cause it if that makes sense.

Here lemmie tag some people who can help u better (maybe):

@Usseewa @Verdance @Ink and Embers @CoderDrag0n8 

I don't have much useful advice about social anxiety; I just overthink without realizing I'm overthinking half the time. The issue is that most of my friends are also probably-autistic overthinkers, so if I think I might have insulted someone, they might think I've insulted them. 

 

45 minutes ago, Verdance said:

Especially online, autism or introvertedness does not really exist

thats because i am actively being introverted by hiding in a my room though

I appear extroverted when socializing. I then have to go home and hide under my bed for two hours afterwards because I'm so exhausted.

[Usseewa ✾ She♡Her ✾]

14 hours ago, Aeoryi said:

ai eck ew bleh

sorry

How'do all y'all cope with anxiety of the insane kind

of the insane kind?

hmmm..

well tbh lately I've struggled with what of myself to label as "anxiety" because labels can be hard for me, in different ways. It's like semantic satiation (repeat a word a bunch and it sounds meaningless and silly for a bit). "Anxiety" has lost it's meaning for me and I don't know what it means anymore.

My past self had anxiety, so I can say I do?

But... to cope, I listen to music, is one thing. Sometimes I'm in the mood for a certain playlist, artist, or song so I rush to put that on. Sometimes I want calming music, other times I don't mind the more energetic (cuz I want stimulation, I think). Etc.

Sometimes I try to just stop the spiral and take a breath. Like, I know breathing is cliche but like I stop my thought chain and take a single deep/slow breath and it usually helps, even if i start up again in a few seconds lol...

For like other anxiety, idk.

Idk if I get it.

I feel like in getting better I'm losing who I am, which was largely my "negative" qualities like social anxiety (or whatever it was) and even some depression stuff and whatever. Or maybe not. But idk. Cuz then sometimes I feel like I can't relate as much to something I once did. And I just have brain fog or something but maybe it's not and maybe just the absence of stuff-once-there. Idk..

13 hours ago, Aeoryi said:

I mean to be fair I don't necessarily know what it's like to have autism. (My parents had me autism tested twice though at a young age lol)

I have grown up with a diagnosis for ADHD since I was like, 7 or 8 years of age. But idk if that constitutes neurodivergence... autism tends to be a completely different set of characteristics than ADHD so I'm hesitant to say I resonate with you or whatever

thank you for your reply though

Yeah, ADHD is neurodivergence.

13 hours ago, Deception said:

Yea.

People with ADHD can hyper focus if whatever they are doing is intense, high stakes, highly stimulating, or if they just get lucky (according to the internet - idk if this is true about you).

From my personal experience and from my research I know that autism makes you lock on to one single interest and practice it way too much, which is bad in the short term and socially but long term / career wise there are advantages. It also allows me to enter a flow state while doing something that I really enjoy, leading to me getting work done extremely fast (up to 3x faster than neurotypical people).

Neurodivergence is a tradeoff*, not a disability. Always.

 

*not saying it can't be an unfavorable tradeoff, but there are advantages.

 

It's like, have you ever found some new shiny thing you want to learn and then just figured out so much about it so fast because it was just so interesting? Well, neurotypical people can't really do that.

Tbh I can't think about my ADHD anymore and how it affects me. Not sure if I ever did. Idk.

I literally doubt I have ADHD sometimes.. Despite the diagnosis and symptoms.

12 hours ago, Aeoryi said:

You never gonna know

Whether it is worth it to follow the truth

But why, why 

Was it a lie

That no one could know my mind

Is this a quote?

also...

"Follow the truth"

Are you saying you are Truth :3

lol

(d'ya get it)

3 hours ago, Deception said:

I know someone with this, it's called AuDHD.

He can get the same flow state as an autistic person, probably a more intense flow actually, but because of his ADHD it's a lot easier for him to see something that looks fun while in a flow state and then get distracted doomscrolling or gaming. 

Also according to the internet, a lot of the time people with AuDHD get diagnosed with just ADHD and not autism because ADHD covers up a lot of the social anxiety from autism sometimes. Apparently that didn't happen with the kid I know, though.

I might be audhd but i have no clue.

3 hours ago, Verdance said:

Especially online, autism or introvertedness does not really exist

thats because i am actively being introverted by hiding in a my room though

very true.

Though it still can exist somewhat, naybe depending and maybe moreso before early on..

[Deception He/Him]

16 minutes ago, Usseewa said:

very true.

Though it still can exist somewhat, naybe depending and maybe moreso before early on..

Depends on what you are talking about online.

[Usseewa ✾ She♡Her ✾]

1 hour ago, Deception said:

Depends on what you are talking about online.

u have autism right so

could you tell me more

about what it entails so

i can know if i

might have

it?

 

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if you want, maybe not idk maybe its fine hahwhwhdhbhdhdneenejje help

[Keteᛕ He/Him/His]

8 minutes ago, Usseewa said:

u have autism right so

could you tell me more

about what it entails so

i can know if i

might have

it?

 

.............

if you want, maybe not idk maybe its fine hahwhwhdhbhdhdneenejje help

So the thing about autism is that it's a spectrum. Depending on if, and subsequently, where you are on said spectrum, the symptoms, support needed, and behaviors change. It's also currently thought to be heavily influenced by genetics. There are several myths connecting vaccines to autism- this is proven false.

While autism is slowly becoming more and more prevalent (1 in every 31 children and 1 in every 45 adults in the US), if you've heard someone say that "everyone is on the autism spectrum", this is completely false. The term "spectrum" in this case is not a straight line/ bar, but rather a dial shape. (for example, negative numbers are not on a speedometer, but they are on a number line (used for visualization purposes only)). 

Many common (but not always) symptoms include repetitive/ restrictive behaviors, difficulty with social cues and situations, difficulty maintaining relationships, difficulty multitasking, and/or difficulty adapting to change.

This is just what I learned from a book I read shortly after being diagnosed-- it may be entirely different for others.

[Usseewa ✾ She♡Her ✾]

4 minutes ago, Through The Living Ketek said:

So the thing about autism is that it's a spectrum. Depending on if, and subsequently, where you are on said spectrum, the symptoms, support needed, and behaviors change. It's also currently thought to be heavily influenced by genetics. There are several myths connecting vaccines to autism- this is proven false.

While autism is slowly becoming more and more prevalent (1 in every 31 children and 1 in every 45 adults in the US), if you've heard someone say that "everyone is on the autism spectrum", this is completely false. The term "spectrum" in this case is not a straight line/ bar, but rather a dial shape. (for example, negative numbers are not on a speedometer, but they are on a number line (used for visualization purposes only)). 

Many common (but not always) symptoms include repetitive/ restrictive behaviors, difficulty with social cues and situations, difficulty maintaining relationships, difficulty multitasking, and/or difficulty adapting to change.

This is just what I learned from a book I read shortly after being diagnosed-- it may be entirely different for others.

Ah yes cool ok

[Deception He/Him]

Autism Diagnosis be like:

Doctor: "the sky is green"

Child: "no, it's blue"

Doctor: "You don't have autism. Bye!"

Child: "...why?"

Doctor: "You understood my sarcasm about the sky being green. Autistic people cannot understand complex social cues like sarcasm"

Child: "Or maybe I have looked at the sky before, and I remember the color"

Doctor: "Impossible! Autistically disabled people have sensory issues that prevent them from looking at bright lights, like the sky"

Child: "...no. Not for me. Autism is a spectrum. Also, autism is a difference, not a disability"

Doctor: "I've heard people say that about cancer, schizophrenia, and broken arms. It's 2026."

Child: "But with autism it's true"

Doctor: "And also cancer, I assume?"

Child <stops talking>

Doctor: "I won the argument! Ha!"

Child's mom: "He is having a reaction to this situation. He's extra sensitive to this sort of stuff"

Doctor: "Which proves my point! He is sensitive, so he can't look at the sky, so he must have understood my sarcasm!"

Child: <punches the doctor in the face>