Oversleep Posted February 1, 2016 Posted February 1, 2016 Why do Feruchemists need different tinminds for different senses, but different memories can be stored in one coppermind?
Master_Moridin he/him Posted February 1, 2016 Posted February 1, 2016 Why do Feruchemists need different tinminds for different senses, but different memories can be stored in one coppermind? Possibly because the mechanism by which memories are created is the same no matter the memory, but all your senses work differently?
Irkutsk he/him Posted February 4, 2016 Posted February 4, 2016 Sorry if these have already been asked, but I'm not going to sift through 53 pages of questions. Is there a limit on how much of an attribute can be stored in a metalmind? I notice that, for instance, Sazed has Coppermind bracers but only a steel ring. Do we have any info on how much can be stored in a hunk of metal? Can a metalmind ever be "full"? I would imagine this would be measured in something like [100% Attribute]-Hours per gram. For example, storing 50% weight for two hours gives you 1 Weight-hour. I want to know how much of that can be stored in a gram of metal. My other question has to do with compounding. When you compound, do you burn attributes in a metalmind to immediately get the effect, or can you re-store the compounded attribute back into another metalmind? Does Miles sit in his room and compound to fill his goldminds, or does he actively burn goldminds while fighting to heal rapidly? 1
Master_Moridin he/him Posted February 4, 2016 Posted February 4, 2016 My other question has to do with compounding. When you compound, do you burn attributes in a metalmind to immediately get the effect, or can you re-store the compounded attribute back into another metalmind? Does Miles sit in his room and compound to fill his goldminds, or does he actively burn goldminds while fighting to heal rapidly? Can't really answer the first question, but I can this. When you're burning to compound, you can take a portion of the power you get and store it in another metalmind. So it's sorta both. Fill a metalmind, burn it, and then take the compounded power and store part (or all) of it away to compound even more later whenever you want. It seems to be really tricky though to get the feedback loop working right though.
natc Posted February 4, 2016 Posted February 4, 2016 Miles is continously slightly healthier than normal at all times, so he is definitely tapping nonstop. One can presumably burn metalminds directly for emergency usage, of course, but it's probably not generally advised as using the inherently well-controlled power usage of feruchemy is more efficient and can produce the same or even stronger results as well as lesser results as the need arises.
Eagle of the Forest Path he/him Posted February 4, 2016 Posted February 4, 2016 Is there a limit on how much of an attribute can be stored in a metalmind? I notice that, for instance, Sazed has Coppermind bracers but only a steel ring. Do we have any info on how much can be stored in a hunk of metal? Can a metalmind ever be "full"? I would imagine this would be measured in something like [100% Attribute]-Hours per gram. For example, storing 50% weight for two hours gives you 1 Weight-hour. I want to know how much of that can be stored in a gram of metal. The amount of an attribute that can be stored is definitely related to the size of the metalmind, in other words the amount of metal. This means metalminds can be filled to a limit and not beyond. Your measurement unit is usable, but I don't think it's possible to pinpoint an exact ratio of [attribute]-hours per gram, not in the least because there would be a different ratio for each metal, but also because we don't have sufficient source material in the books. It's also possible that the maximum amount of attribute per gram is affected by the skill or power of the feruchemist.
Irkutsk he/him Posted February 4, 2016 Posted February 4, 2016 The amount of an attribute that can be stored is definitely related to the size of the metalmind, in other words the amount of metal. This means metalminds can be filled to a limit and not beyond. Your measurement unit is usable, but I don't think it's possible to pinpoint an exact ratio of [attribute]-hours per gram, not in the least because there would be a different ratio for each metal, but also because we don't have sufficient source material in the books. It's also possible that the maximum amount of attribute per gram is affected by the skill or power of the feruchemist. Thanks for the answers guys, Tia makes a lot more sense now. BoM spoilers So I wonder if a Feruchemist tapping Nicrosil of their own other powers would be able to fit more of an attribute into a piece of metal... It seems like tapping Nicrosil of allomantic powers would give you a straight up power boost, but receiving the same power increase by tapping Nicrosil of feruchemical powers wouldn't make sense. Perhaps it just lets you store and tap more efficiently.
Yata he/him Posted February 4, 2016 Posted February 4, 2016 (edited) Do we know if Adonalsium creates the whole universe or only the Cosmere (the Galaxy) ? Edited February 4, 2016 by Yata
Oversleep Posted February 6, 2016 Posted February 6, 2016 Do we know if any two Shards can be picked up together? What do we know about combining Shards?
kinxer he/him Posted February 7, 2016 Posted February 7, 2016 Do we know if any two Shards can be picked up together? What do we know about combining Shards? Have you read the Mistborn Trilogy? If not, I'd advise doing so and returning if you still have any questions.
Oversleep Posted February 7, 2016 Posted February 7, 2016 Have you read the Mistborn Trilogy? If not, I'd advise doing so and returning if you still have any questions. If I hadn't read Mistborn Trilogy, I wouldn't be even asking about combining Shards. The question is if any two Shards can be combined.
kinxer he/him Posted February 8, 2016 Posted February 8, 2016 If I hadn't read Mistborn Trilogy, I wouldn't be even asking about combining Shards. The question is if any two Shards can be combined. Gotcha. Sorry about the misreading. That is an interesting question... I don't know of any reason why it wouldn't be possible, so I'll appeal to higher powers (Sharders like Moogle, natc, Weiry, etc). As far as I've seen, what we know of combining Shards is what we learn from Mistborn (and bits about opposing Intent that I'm sure you already know). Wait, a Theoryland search yielded this: QUESTIONSo Ruin and Preservation combine. When Odium slays the Shardbearers, why doesn’t he absorb the enemy Shards? BRANDON SANDERSONBecause that would actually change the way he views the world. The Shard would actually start to influence him, and could actually ruin who he views himself as being. So instead of combining them all, his goal is to destroy them all and be the only one left at his power level. This points toward it a possibility, so my guess is that any two Shards can be combined. My intuition is that it may be more difficult to combine certain Shards, though.
WeiryWriter he/him Posted February 9, 2016 Posted February 9, 2016 If I remember correctly Brandon has been asked, and while it is technically possible to hold any two shards certain combinations are easier/more stable than others. 1
Stormgate he/him Posted February 9, 2016 Posted February 9, 2016 If I remember correctly Brandon has been asked, and while it is technically possible to hold any two shards certain combinations are easier/more stable than others. I thought that it was along the lines of some of them having really weird Intents.
Oversleep Posted February 9, 2016 Posted February 9, 2016 (edited) Does size of the Aon in AonDor matter? Because city-sized Aon seems to be pretty powerful and I had an idea what a madman Elantrian could do. The idea is a spoiler from one popular anime Another question: do we know what would happen if a Mistborn Awakener put his Breaths into metal and then burned it? Edited February 9, 2016 by Oversleep
Mistfallen24 he/him Posted February 10, 2016 Posted February 10, 2016 The only Cosmere books I've read so far are the original Mistborn trilogy and Warbreaker and I just want a few things clarified. My questions might be a little spoilery if people are even more far behind than me... Anyway my first question is about Preservation and how everyone on, the planet's called Scadrial right?, has a piece of it within them and that gives them sentience/life. So that is only true on Scadrial? The planet Warbreaker takes place on for instance, the people there have nothing to do with Preservation/Ruin in their creation/souls? That leads to further questions. If the two men who took the power of Preservation and Ruin worked together to create people, where did they come from in the first place? Are the people on Scadrial essentially modeled off of a preexisting race/form? That would better explain how all these different planets, with different entities living on them created people that look and act basically the same. Jumping back a little bit to the piece of Preservation as well as Ruin within humans, how does THAT work? Would an explosion in population cause a drain on their power to fuel more humans? Or is it more like death releases the power to be used for more life, more cyclical? Or is it completely different and I'm missing something? Because that doesn't explain the fact that Sazed clearly indicated that people live on and he spoke with them, so they obviously aren't recycled. I'm going to stop here before I ask a million and a half questions...
Mistfallen24 he/him Posted February 10, 2016 Posted February 10, 2016 Does size of the Aon in AonDor matter? Because city-sized Aon seems to be pretty powerful and I had an idea what a madman Elantrian could do. The idea is a spoiler from one popular anime Another question: do we know what would happen if a Mistborn Awakener put his Breaths into metal and then burned it? I'm obviously no expert based on all the questions I just asked, but I'd think that Awakened Pewter for instance would, at least for the Awakener Mistborn, act as an almost concentrated pewter, the burning of it would give more strength than normal. Allomancy is about gaining power from the burning of metals and it stands to reason that there is more to gain from an Awakened Metal. 1
Oversleep Posted February 10, 2016 Posted February 10, 2016 As for your question, we don't know how new people gain Investiture. Few days ago I also wondered if Preservation would eventually be drained of Investiture; I came to conclusion that people gain Investiture from the background - much like on Nalthis(Warbreaker planet) new people are born with Breath, but this Breath isn't considered Endowment's power (contrary to Divine Breath of Returned). As for your question, there indeed were humans before - on planet Yolen. That's where Preservation and Ruin's holders came from (and other Shardholders). I'd advise you to check the topic 'Cosmere 101'. As for my question, I was asking about not Awakened metal but metal with Breath simply put into it (much like Awakeners hide their Breath in their clothes). I suspect Nicrosil Compounders may be able to Compound it, but I'm asking if it would be possible without Nicrosil Feruchemy.
ecohansen Posted February 10, 2016 Posted February 10, 2016 Has Brandon ever said if he was influenced by Weiss and Hickman's Death Gate cycle? It seems to have most of the defining elements of the Cosmere in embryonic form: one world shattered into many, several well-rationalized magic systems which are explained in appendices, a Fool-character who survived from the original world and now hops between daughter-worlds with an obscure agenda (Hoid/Zifnab), and morally ambiguous protagonists and antagonists embedded in a higher absolute morality.
The Invested Beard Posted February 10, 2016 Posted February 10, 2016 Has Brandon ever said if he was influenced by Weiss and Hickman's Death Gate cycle? It seems to have most of the defining elements of the Cosmere in embryonic form: one world shattered into many, several well-rationalized magic systems which are explained in appendices, a Fool-character who survived from the original world and now hops between daughter-worlds with an obscure agenda (Hoid/Zifnab), and morally ambiguous protagonists and antagonists embedded in a higher absolute morality. Yeah I posted that series in another thread as being similar to Brandon's work. One of my all time favorites. Also don't forget Rune magic as a precursor to all the glyphs/aons/symbols everywhere.
Dunkum he/him Posted February 11, 2016 Posted February 11, 2016 Yeah I posted that series in another thread as being similar to Brandon's work. One of my all time favorites. Also don't forget Rune magic as a precursor to all the glyphs/aons/symbols everywhere. I don't know about that one. rune magic in deathgate is a lot more complex (though less well described) than it is in elantris (though the emperor's soul is probably somewhat close, but that is more down to the complexity of what they are attempting). and runes/symbols as a basis for magic is literally ancient history, it predates modern literature by a long ways, I'd imagine 1
The Invested Beard Posted February 11, 2016 Posted February 11, 2016 I don't know about that one. rune magic in deathgate is a lot more complex (though less well described) than it is in elantris (though the emperor's soul is probably somewhat close, but that is more down to the complexity of what they are attempting). and runes/symbols as a basis for magic is literally ancient history, it predates modern literature by a long ways, I'd imagine Oh yeah I wasn't meaning it was an exact match, there's just quite a similarity between the systems using a written language as a means of using magic.
Master_Moridin he/him Posted February 12, 2016 Posted February 12, 2016 This is an odd question not sure quite relevant to this thread but: Where did the recent trend of people referring to Shardholders as Vessels come from? I've seen a couple of people use it and I'm just wondering if there was something said in something or other that I missed.
DreamEternal Posted February 12, 2016 Posted February 12, 2016 This is an odd question not sure quite relevant to this thread but: Where did the recent trend of people referring to Shardholders as Vessels come from? I've seen a couple of people use it and I'm just wondering if there was something said in something or other that I missed. Mistborn: Secret History.
skaa he/him Posted February 15, 2016 Posted February 15, 2016 I would like to ask for help about whether I am remembering things correctly about something. I have a vague memory of reading about a Nalthian nation that treats the Returned as servants rather than gods, giving them a Breath each week but not worshiping them. Unfortunately, I now can't seem to find the excerpt or WoB that shows this. I know that neither the Pahn Kahl nor the Idrians give Breath to Returned, so it can't be them. I thought it might be Huth/Kuth (the nations that are now ruled by a tyrant who is employing Yesteel), but I can't find any evidence of that. Am I just remembering a fan theory? Or did Brandon really tell us about such a nation?
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