Mid-Range Game 63: The Outcasts of Tyrian Falls

[Amanuensis he/him]

3 minutes ago, _Stick_ said:

didn't they? last cycle when they said they can wait for my exe till C3?

Ah yeah I just looked back and did see DeTess voted for Silho for a brief time

It lasted about 5 hours until he found a reason to vote Alpha again

 

[Stick. she/her]

A little risky, given that people were ready to vote Silho out but no one was really elim-reading Alpha

[Amanuensis he/him]

29 minutes ago, _Stick_ said:

A little risky, given that people were ready to vote Silho out but no one was really elim-reading Alpha

I also don't think DeTess would push e!Silho before v!Stick. She could have easily voted you instead, given how much they shaded your slot (inb4 e!DeTess / e!Stick lol).

That would mean it's either Mat or JNV, yeah? Which leaves me wondering if there really isn't a Mobborn

Part of me wants to believe Mat is the Mobborn tho. Especially given this cycle is named "Four You". 4 Skaa vs 1 Mobborn vs 1 Informer?

ED1T:

@_Stick_ I don't think that works tho, since I believe you should have seen Mat target me alongside Silho, even if his action failed

Edited April 22, 2023 by Amanuensis

[JNV]

Hi I have like no time Im about to be driving for an hour but hi Im the Tineye scan showed the claimed PMs Im not evil so um yeah any questions in the five minutes before I go on the open road

[Amanuensis he/him]

1 minute ago, JNV said:

Hi I have like no time Im about to be driving for an hour but hi Im the Tineye scan showed the claimed PMs Im not evil so um yeah any questions in the five minutes before I go on the open road

They just claimed this in my PM. Specifically, they saw the Alpha-Stick and JNV-Aman PMs.

TBH I'm inclined to believe them, as easily fakeable as an action claim that is.

The question, I suppose, is would e!JNV use that instead of submitting the kill? DeTess had no reason not to submit the kill, given they had no other action to use and they were on the chopping block, so I guess e!JNV could just do it to have some info to share and confirm they're not the killer.

Idk tho. JNV is too disarming for me to accurately read, so right now I feel like I'm only considering it because of PoE.

[Stick. she/her]

Hm. I think I 100% believe that claim, but it doesn't alleviate my suspicions because DeTess presumably had been submitting the kills.

That said, I'm open to e!Alpha - I recall them saying their DeTess suspicion had died down last cycle around the time I started pushing for the DeTess exe. In addition to that, they also PM'd me asking if I thought Mobborn!DeTess made sense.

[Amanuensis he/him]

Interesting. I know sometimes elims do overcompensate with suspicion on their teammates. It's been a long time since I've seen e!DeTess in action, but I can't dismiss it, especially with so many of us uninterested in voting Alpha.

That said, DeTess did park their C1 vote on Alpha long before EoD and didn't show up for it @_Stick_

Edited April 22, 2023 by Amanuensis

[Stick. she/her]

Here, they said they don't suspect DeTess anymore:

Will note that this was 16 minutes after Mat had moved his vote to DeTess.

4 minutes ago, Amanuensis said:

Interesting. I know sometimes elims do overcompensate with suspicion on their teammates. It's been a long time since I've seen e!DeTess in action, but I can't dismiss it, especially with so many of us uninterested in voting Alpha.

That said, DeTess did park their C1 vote on Alpha long before EoD and didn't show up for it @_Stick_

Yeah, I haven't played with DeTess (E or V) in probably I think 5 years o.O So idk what their level of distancing is like. They voted Alpha well after rollovet so maybe they were banking on people being too caught up with other more popular exe targets at that stage in the cycle. They had a brief exchange here:

But it would've been too easy had DeTess unvoted Alpha after this little back and forth xD

[Amanuensis he/him]

Mat voted DeTess when they could have saved her, so probably not an Informer.

1. First level distancing (barely any interaction or discussion) would suggest JNV
2. Second level distancing (brief voting of teammate) would suggest Silho
3. Third level distancing (consistent voting of teammate) would suggest Alpha

Probably just need to yeet in that order (JNV > Silho/Alpha) and village wins.

Edited April 22, 2023 by Amanuensis

[The Paradoxical Phenomenon he/him]

10 minutes ago, Amanuensis said:

Mat voted DeTess when they could have saved her, so probably not an Informer.

1. First level distancing (barely any interaction or discussion) would suggest JNV
2. Second level distancing (brief voting of teammate) would suggest Silho
3. Third level distancing (consistent voting of teammate) would suggest Alpha

Probably just need to yeet in that order (JNV > Silho/Alpha) and village wins.

I don’t know that I wanna get yeeted o.O DeTess wasn’t my teammate, tho I feel like Aman is (which is really different than how I used to feel)

[The Paradoxical Phenomenon he/him]

JNV Alpha

[Stick. she/her]

7 minutes ago, TheAlpha929 said:

I don’t know that I wanna get yeeted o.O DeTess wasn’t my teammate, tho I feel like Aman is (which is really different than how I used to feel)

I know what you're trying to say here, but funnily enough it sounds like a Mobborn claim xD Alpha/Aman Mobborn partners - feels different than before cuz you just got recruited  

But anyway - why do you think Aman is DeTess' teammate? Because he voted on the counter wagon last cycle? It's possible, ngl. Just unlikely, imo.

[The Paradoxical Phenomenon he/him]

1 minute ago, _Stick_ said:

But anyway - why do you think Aman is DeTess' teammate? Because he voted on the counter wagon last cycle? It's possible, ngl. Just unlikely, imo.

… I don’t 

I was saying I think Aman is my teammate, a villager 

[Amanuensis he/him]

6 minutes ago, TheAlpha929 said:

JNV Alpha

I thought you said you don't want to be yeeted?

3 minutes ago, _Stick_ said:

I know what you're trying to say here, but funnily enough it sounds like a Mobborn claim xD Alpha/Aman Mobborn partners - feels different than before cuz you just got recruited  

But anyway - why do you think Aman is DeTess' teammate? Because he voted on the counter wagon last cycle? It's possible, ngl. Just unlikely, imo.

TBH my gut still leans Silho =\ but that's mostly because DeTess ended on you and Silho ended on JNV.

Oh. You were asking Alpha lol

Edited April 22, 2023 by Amanuensis

[Stick. she/her]

3 minutes ago, TheAlpha929 said:

… I don’t 

I was saying I think Aman is my teammate, a villager 

Oh, sorry xD

2 minutes ago, Amanuensis said:

TBH my gut still leans Silho =\ but that's mostly because DeTess ended on you and Silho ended on JNV.

I just think that e!Silho would have remembered to create his PMs if DeTess was submitting the kills like that's a waste of a solid alibi 

Edit:

There's also the argument that e!Soother in a 9 player game with two village factions playing against each other is a little questionable

Edited April 22, 2023 by _Stick_

[The Paradoxical Phenomenon he/him]

5 minutes ago, Amanuensis said:

I thought you said you don't want to be yeeted?

Changed my mind 

[Amanuensis he/him]

@Matrim's Dice any chance you're willing to tell us your role and what action you took last night? 

[Mat he/him]

32 minutes ago, TheAlpha929 said:

JNV Alpha

Smh people this is never useful

like

ever

no one will ever convince me otherwise

9 minutes ago, Amanuensis said:

@Matrim's Dice any chance you're willing to tell us your role and what action you took last night? 

Useless Augur, saw myself as a village experimental coinshot. Didn’t PM anyone because I thought you were gonna be NKd, I didn’t trust Stick enough, Shining was up for the exe, and no one else struck my fancy :P.

Plus I just like distro stuff and most of the game seems to be in thread anyway

[The Paradoxical Phenomenon he/him]

1 minute ago, Matrim's Dice said:

Useless Augur, saw myself as a village experimental coinshot.

Hey! That’s me!

[Mat he/him]

1 minute ago, TheAlpha929 said:

Hey! That’s me!

It's also Archer, who we actually can verify had the role and alignment in question :P.

Come to think of it, I don't know how I feel about there being two survive-an-NK roles in a game with 9 players.

[The Paradoxical Phenomenon he/him]

Just now, Matrim's Dice said:

It's also Archer, who we actually can verify had the role and alignment in question :P.

Oh yeah I guess you don’t actually know my alignment rad

[Amanuensis he/him]

Two village Coinshots is a bit unusual, but so is two elim Coinshots. Hm.

[The Paradoxical Phenomenon he/him]

Honestly in my completely biased opinion it sounds weirder for there to be two elim Coinshots

[Amanuensis he/him]

My preferred exe is still Silho, hence my vote. Two village Coinshots could theoretically be balanced with an e!Soother.

Edited April 23, 2023 by Amanuensis

[The Paradoxical Phenomenon he/him]

21 minutes ago, Amanuensis said:

My preferred exe is still Silho, hence my vote. Two village Coinshots could theoretically be balanced with an e!Soother.

Yeah, this reasoning makes sense. Alpha Silho (sorry Mat, I’d have kept my vote on me, but I decided to switch)

Rn my reads are as follows 

Aman - fairly confident v

Stick - also v, but more tentative 

Silho - e, obviously 

JNV - second choice for e if Silho flips v

Mat - slightly less e than JNV