Amanuensis he/him Posted March 3, 2023 Posted March 3, 2023 5 minutes ago, Araris Valerian said: I'll also note the fact that you claimed Thug C2 (and Lurcher C1) makes you a desirable conversion target, both for the role, and because it gives you a reason to never get hit by the NK. You still haven't mastered my porch-sitting powers . Okay sure but you're missing the point >:(
|TJ| he/him Posted March 3, 2023 Posted March 3, 2023 If e!me knew Fifth had Zinc, I would have used the situation to protect Biplet from elimination. And I think for any elim, Fifth is the obvious kill. More so in your case because you seem to be very much aware of "elims win on parity if village has no vote manip" case and it would make sense for you to remove the possibility of village vote manip and win on parity if you're actually a Thug.
Amanuensis he/him Posted March 3, 2023 Posted March 3, 2023 Well then e!me already won and I'm arguing my innocence for no reason >>
Araris Valerian he/him Posted March 3, 2023 Posted March 3, 2023 (edited) 22 minutes ago, |TJ| said: If e!me knew Fifth had Zinc, I would have used the situation to protect Biplet from elimination. And I think for any elim, Fifth is the obvious kill. More so in your case because you seem to be very much aware of "elims win on parity if village has no vote manip" case and it would make sense for you to remove the possibility of village vote manip and win on parity if you're actually a Thug. Yeah, you could have switched onto me and won the game 50% of the time, then retroactively justified it. Even without Fifth’s Zinc you could have done that. Edited March 3, 2023 by Araris Valerian
Amanuensis he/him Posted March 3, 2023 Posted March 3, 2023 (edited) Yeah I’m lost then. Araris. It’s one of you two and it’s impossible to tell which cause nothing makes any sense. ED1T: The only thing I can think of is Araris is the converted Tineye and couldn’t flip before Biplet without getting her immediately killed too. Biplet also couldn’t flip before Wiz because it would have meant Wiz was guaranteed elim for his fake scan of her. So they arranged the fake slip up to put Wiz on the table before either Bip or Araris? I have no idea why Araris didn’t take my bait onto Fifth for an out, but maybe he thought I was RTing for the convert. As for why he didn’t join me on TJ at the end it’s probably for the same reason Biplet cross-voted with Araris? Trust for the last cycle? This assumes that by C5 they expected to start falling like dominos. Which idk cause I might have gone for Mat still if not for Wiz’s failed gambit @|TJ| Edited March 3, 2023 by Amanuensis
Araris Valerian he/him Posted March 3, 2023 Posted March 3, 2023 38 minutes ago, Amanuensis said: Yeah I’m lost then. Araris. It’s one of you two and it’s impossible to tell which cause nothing makes any sense. ED1T: The only thing I can think of is Araris is the converted Tineye and couldn’t flip before Biplet without getting her immediately killed too. Biplet also couldn’t flip before Wiz because it would have meant Wiz was guaranteed elim for his fake scan of her. So they arranged the fake slip up to put Wiz on the table before either Bip or Araris? I have no idea why Araris didn’t take my bait onto Fifth for an out, but maybe he thought I was RTing for the convert. As for why he didn’t join me on TJ at the end it’s probably for the same reason Biplet cross-voted with Araris? Trust for the last cycle? This assumes that by C5 they expected to start falling like dominos. Which idk cause I might have gone for Mat still if not for Wiz’s failed gambit @|TJ| I'm the one that thought up the possibility that Bip could be the Inquisitor (mechanically). Without that suggestion, someone else would have gotten exed last cycle, and it wouldn't have been me. Game over.
Amanuensis he/him Posted March 3, 2023 Posted March 3, 2023 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Araris Valerian said: I'm the one that thought up the possibility that Bip could be the Inquisitor (mechanically). Without that suggestion, someone else would have gotten exed last cycle, and it wouldn't have been me. Game over. Okay but why does e!Thug me not just tank yesterday’s vote when everyone began voting me? I had to bring up that TKN confirmed I’m not a starting elim. ED1T: Look. I want you to both to assume I’m not lying about being a Thug, regardless of my alignment. If I’m elim, this exe takes my extra life. I kill TJ. Araris and me = parity, which is the elim win con. So if you vote me you’re ensuring loss. But since I’m village, whichever one of you is village is handing the other the win. Cross-voting and letting me pick between you two is the only chance that the village can win. @Araris Valerian @|TJ| Edited March 3, 2023 by Amanuensis
Araris Valerian he/him Posted March 3, 2023 Posted March 3, 2023 3 minutes ago, Amanuensis said: Okay but why does e!Thug me not just tank yesterday’s vote when everyone began voting me? I had to bring up that TKN confirmed I’m not a starting elim. Because you aren't an e!Thug.
Amanuensis he/him Posted March 3, 2023 Posted March 3, 2023 Just now, Araris Valerian said: Because you aren't an e!Thug. What was Village me actually that lied about Lurcher and a thug then?
Araris Valerian he/him Posted March 3, 2023 Posted March 3, 2023 Just now, Amanuensis said: What was Village me actually that lied about Lurcher and a thug then? I don't know, the same Village you that lied about Goalkeeper in the LG? You lie frequently as a villager.
Amanuensis he/him Posted March 3, 2023 Posted March 3, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Araris Valerian said: I don't know, the same Village you that lied about Goalkeeper in the LG? You lie frequently as a villager. Yeah but that had a purpose. All my village lies have a purpose. C1 Thug Me wanted to bait the NK and protect TKN so he could snap by making the elims think I was protecting him. I kept that lie up until C3, when JNV lost his extra life, and put myself up for the exe unnecessarily to prevent conversion. We didn’t settle on me in the end but that wasn’t my fault. Edited March 3, 2023 by Amanuensis
Araris Valerian he/him Posted March 3, 2023 Posted March 3, 2023 Just now, Amanuensis said: Yeah but that had a purpose. All my village lies have a purpose. C1 Thug Me wanted to bait the NK and protect TKN so he could snap by making the elims think I was protecting him. I kept that lie up until C3, when JNV lost his extra life, and out myself up for the exe unnecessarily to prevent conversion. We didn’t settle on me in the end but that wasn’t my fault. Yeah, but the Thug claim could have been a lie with purpose as well.
Amanuensis he/him Posted March 3, 2023 Posted March 3, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Araris Valerian said: Yeah, but the Thug claim could have been a lie with purpose as well. So I began the game as a village Tineye wanting to die or? ED1T: The reason I ask is because I can’t think of another feasible reason but the truth. Edited March 3, 2023 by Amanuensis
Araris Valerian he/him Posted March 3, 2023 Posted March 3, 2023 Just now, Amanuensis said: So I began the game as a village suicidal Tineye? No. The Tin came from the Spike, that is really the only thing that makes sense. You could have any role.
Amanuensis he/him Posted March 3, 2023 Posted March 3, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Araris Valerian said: No. The Tin came from the Spike, that is really the only thing that makes sense. You could have any role. Right. But I’m asking v!you to figure out what role makes sense with the way I was playing. Seer? Oracle? ED1T: TBH I didn’t even remember Oracle existed until I wrote Seer lol. I guess this argument is pointless RIP Edited March 3, 2023 by Amanuensis
Araris Valerian he/him Posted March 3, 2023 Posted March 3, 2023 Just now, Amanuensis said: Right. But I’m asking v!you to figure out what role makes sense with the way I was playing. Seer? Oracle? Yeah, those both work. You could also be, as you put it, "a village Tineye wanting to die." You don't need a role to fake-claim protection on someone you want to survive. As an elim I would just avoid the both of you (or convert you), so you don't really need any sort of protection.
Amanuensis he/him Posted March 3, 2023 Posted March 3, 2023 (edited) Ah well. The problem is I really am a Thug but you won’t take my word for it, despite TKN seeing I took no action when both Seer and Oracle would negate his action and I would have used any other role if I could. The fact you’ve engaged me this much though makes me think it’s just TJ again. I did my best o7 ED1T: I can’t even be a Smoker because Fifth wouldn’t have been able to vote manip me nor a vote manip myself Edited March 3, 2023 by Amanuensis
|TJ| he/him Posted March 3, 2023 Posted March 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Amanuensis said: The fact you’ve engaged me this much though makes me think it’s just TJ again. It's 2:30 am here smh. I really want to check out of this game so badly, but I keep getting pulled back in. Recently I was thinking that you were an Unsnapped originally and got Spiked with Tin.
Amanuensis he/him Posted March 3, 2023 Posted March 3, 2023 (edited) 12 minutes ago, |TJ| said: It's 2:30 am here smh. I really want to check out of this game so badly, but I keep getting pulled back in. Recently I was thinking that you were an Unsnapped originally and got Spiked with Tin. Alas I art Thug Edited March 3, 2023 by Amanuensis
Araris Valerian he/him Posted March 3, 2023 Posted March 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Amanuensis said: Alas I art Thug You've done a lot of talking this cycle about why you can't be elim (or that if you are, you already win). But you haven't really said anything to persuade me that TJ is elim. It's not just that you're suspicious. It's that TJ's actions in the last couple of cycles don't make a ton of sense if he's elim.
Amanuensis he/him Posted March 3, 2023 Posted March 3, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Araris Valerian said: You've done a lot of talking this cycle about why you can't be elim (or that if you are, you already win). But you haven't really said anything to persuade me that TJ is elim. It's not just that you're suspicious. It's that TJ's actions in the last couple of cycles don't make a ton of sense if he's elim. Fair that's probably because I was a Village Thug that got converted C3 and never asked for this ED1T: Was worth a shot tho figured it was better to try than check out for the slow win ED2T: If you're interested in being a post-game honorary convert, @Araris Valerian, you could vote TJ with me Edited March 3, 2023 by Amanuensis
Araris Valerian he/him Posted March 3, 2023 Posted March 3, 2023 I believe this is the part of the game where I should object to the rule that the game ends at parity when the village has no vote manip
Amanuensis he/him Posted March 3, 2023 Posted March 3, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Araris Valerian said: I believe this is the part of the game where I should object to the rule that the game ends at parity when the village has no vote manip I complained about the same thing tbh the villager in me hurts @|TJ| you can relax now Edited March 3, 2023 by Amanuensis
Araris Valerian he/him Posted March 3, 2023 Posted March 3, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, Amanuensis said: I complained about the same thing tbh the villager in me hurts Though to be fair, I won the last time it came down to just the two of us. So I guess it can be your turn this time around. Edited March 3, 2023 by Araris Valerian
Amanuensis he/him Posted March 3, 2023 Posted March 3, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Araris Valerian said: Though to be fair, I won the last time it came down to just the two of us. I also noticed the parallel thankfully this time RNG can't save you ED1T: My biggest regret is that I claimed to Kas C1 Edited March 3, 2023 by Amanuensis
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