Quick Fix 64: Spies in Starsight

[Amanuensis]

I cry and slep now

Sorry @NerdyAarakocra I believed in you. Also well done this game. Hope to spectate until the end and play again!

[Haelbarde]

6 minutes ago, Kasimir said:

 

@Haelbarde You said Stick created a three way tie? Is there a vote I overlooked? Because there were three votes on Aman but she came prior to my swap off Nerdy, which should have kept Nerdy at four votes, no?

I was rushing to get that done before end of cycle in case I was night killed and the vote things would be useful for someone else, so I may have missed something, or miscounted. I'm going to go copy those into one post, and add in the new info from this lynch, so I'll double check that then.

[The Bookwyrm]

What.

Oh, scud.

Nerdy was Village.

What do I do now.

The answer is sleep. I'm up too late. I'll deal with this tomorrow.s

[Kasimir]

9 minutes ago, Haelbarde said:

I was rushing to get that done before end of cycle in case I was night killed and the vote things would be useful for someone else, so I may have missed something, or miscounted. I'm going to go copy those into one post, and add in the new info from this lynch, so I'll double check that then.

I found the problem. You kept Wiz's vote on Aman. Wiz subsequently retracted and moved to Nerdy.

44 minutes ago, Haelbarde said:

(4) Nerdy: Xino {1}, Bookwyrm {1}, Aman {6}, Kas {4}
(4) Aman: Wizard {1}, Infinite {1}, Fifth {3}, Mat(t) {3}
(4) Silver: Wizard {1}, Devo {1}, Hael {1}, Stick {5}
(2) Xino: Exotic {1}, Nerdy {1}

This means you double-counted Wiz's vote.

[Amanuensis]

21 minutes ago, Amanuensis said:

I cry and slep now

Sorry @NerdyAarakocra I believed in you. Also well done this game. Hope to spectate until the end and play again!

Actually I cry and vote now

Stick

HOW COULD YOU?

[Kasimir]

16 minutes ago, Amanuensis said:

Actually I cry and vote now

Stick

HOW COULD YOU?

Wha-?

Edited to add:

Quick and dirty until later:

RAW

C1:

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Kas (3): Dannnnnex, Nerdy, Xino
Dannnnnex (6): Kas, Aman, JNV, Silvereye, Hael, Bookwyrm
Mat (1): Fifth
Stick (1): Mat
Fifth (1): Devo
No Vote (5): TUN, Insanity, Almond, Stick, Wiz

C2:

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Nerdy (3): Xino, Bookwyrm, Aman
Silver (5): Wizard, Devo, Hael, Stick, Kasimir
Aman (3): Insanity, Fifth, Matrim
Xino (2): Nerdy, Almond
No Vote (2): TUN, Silver

C3:

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Aman (2): Fifth, Aman
Fifth (5): TUN, Stick, Almond, Bookwyrm, Mat
Xino (4): Nerdy, Kas, Devo, Hael
No Vote (2): Xino, Insanity

C4:

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Xino (5): Aman, Insanity, Kas, Hael, Mat
Nerdy (4): Stick, Xino, TUN, Bookwyrm
No Vote (2): Nerdy, Almond

C5:

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Nerdy (8): Bookwyrm, TUN, Aman, Mat(t), Kas, Stick, Hael, Insanity
Stick (1): Almond
Aman (1): Nerdy

WITH CREDENCES

C1:

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Kas (3): Dannnnnex, Nerdy, Xino
Dannnnnex (6): Kas, Aman, JNV, Silvereye, Hael, Bookwyrm
Mat (1): Fifth
Stick (1): Mat
Fifth (1): Devo
No Vote (5): TUN, Insanity, Almond, Stick, Wiz

No Elims on sidetrains. Elims are either on Danex or No Vote. 

C2:

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Nerdy (3): Xino, Bookwyrm, Aman
Silver (5): Wizard, Devo, Hael, Stick, Kasimir
Aman (3): Insanity, Fifth, Matrim
Xino (2): Nerdy, Almond
No Vote (?): TUN, Silver

Still eh about TUN's indifference. Worth looking at the vote breakdowns again here:

Spoiler

(1) Hael votes for Silver.

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Silver (4): Kas, Wizard, Devo, Hael
Nerdy (4): Xino, Mat, Bookwyrm, Aman
Xino (2): Nerdy, Almond
Aman (2): Insanity, Fifth
Szeth (1): TUN
Fifth (1): Stick

This ties Silver with Nerdy, a Villager who had otherwise been lead train. I want to say this looks a tad bit more Village than Stick because given the timing of the move, and vote volatility, it is just as possible for the votes to shift. I don't know if E!Hael would've counted on the votes remaining tied given how Fifth was running around screaming like a chicken on fire.

(2) Kas votes Nerdy.

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Silver (3): Wizard, Devo, Hael
Nerdy (5): Xino, Mat, Bookwyrm, Aman, Kas
Xino (2): Nerdy, Almond
Aman (2): Insanity, Fifth
Szeth (1): TUN
Fifth (1): Stick

A panic vote from me, sheeping Aman while I tried to figure out what was going on. Net result is that the Silver train drops. Whoops.

(3) Mat votes Aman instead of Nerdy.

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Silver (3): Wizard, Devo, Hael
Nerdy (4): Xino, Bookwyrm, Aman, Kas
Xino (2): Nerdy, Almond
Aman (3): Insanity, Fifth, Mat
Szeth (1): TUN
Fifth (1): Stick

(4) Stick votes Silver.

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Silver (4): Wizard, Devo, Hael, Stick
Nerdy (4): Xino, Bookwyrm, Aman, Kas
Xino (2): Nerdy, Almond
Aman (3): Insanity, Fifth, Mat
Szeth (1): TUN

This ties Silver with Nerdy. Between this and Hael's, I'd consider Hael's move more Village for coming at 12:56:39, whereas Stick's comes at 12:59:19, making it a tie, and close enough that while 41 seconds is a lot, perhaps people won't respond in time.

(5) I vote Silver

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Silver (5): Wizard, Devo, Hael, Stick, Kas
Nerdy (3): Xino, Bookwyrm, Aman
Xino (2): Nerdy, Almond
Aman (3): Insanity, Fifth, Mat
Szeth (1): TUN

Couple of seconds after rollover but it counts.

C3:

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Aman (2): Fifth, Aman
Fifth (5): TUN, Stick, Almond, Bookwyrm, Mat
Xino (4): Nerdy, Kas, Devo, Hael
No Vote (2): Xino, Insanity

In theory, this is a cycle we'd expect massive Elim indifference - in practice, the volume of votes on Fifth suggests that the Elims are probably there (unless E!Hael.)

C4:

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Xino (5): Aman, Insanity, Kas, Hael, Mat
Nerdy (4): Stick, Xino, TUN, Bookwyrm
No Vote (2): Nerdy, Almond

C5:

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Nerdy (8): Bookwyrm, TUN, Aman, Mat(t), Kas, Stick, Hael, Insanity
Stick (1): Almond
Aman (1): Nerdy

Insights later, if I can find any. Need a nap first.

Edited December 23, 2022 by Kasimir

[Haelbarde]

 

Play by Play Vote Tallies

Cycle 2

Spoiler

Kas votes Xino, 

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(1) Xino: Kas {1}

Stick votes Hael,

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(1) Xino: Kas {1}
(1) Hael: Stick {1}

Exotic votes Xino, 

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(2) Xino: Kas {1}, Exotic {1}
(1) Hael: Stick {1}

Kas moves to Bookwyrm from Xino, 

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(1) Xino: Kas {1}, Exotic {1}
(1) Hael: Stick {1}
(1) Bookwyrm: Kas {2}

Nerdy votes Xino, being sus of their cycle one "posts" (there was only one).

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(2) Xino: Kas {1}, Exotic {1}, Nerdy {1}
(1) Hael: Stick {1}
(1) Bookwyrm: Kas {2}

Stick moves to Silver from Hael, satisfied enough with Hael's response to their question, poking Silver for activity.

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(2) Xino: Kas {1}, Exotic {1}, Nerdy {1}
(0) Hael: Stick {1}
(1) Bookwyrm: Kas {2}
(1) Silver: Stick {2}

 Wizard votes Aman, after reading through the game 4 times and reading Aman evil 1/4 times, being confused.

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(2) Xino: Kas {1}, Exotic {1}, Nerdy {1}
(0) Hael: Stick {1}
(1) Bookwyrm: Kas {2}
(1) Silver: Stick {2}
(1) Aman: Wizard {1}

Aman votes Hael then Devo then Fifth, as his top suspicions, with Fifth being at the top of the list.

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(2) Xino: Kas {1}, Exotic {1}, Nerdy {1}
(0) Hael: Stick {1}, Aman {1}
(1) Bookwyrm: Kas {2}
(1) Silver: Stick {2}
(1) Aman: Wizard {1}
(0) Devo: Aman {2}
(1) Fifth: Aman {3}

Kas moves to Silver from Bookwyrm, 
[Ties up Xino and Silver]

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(2) Xino: Kas {1}, Exotic {1}, Nerdy {1}
(0) Hael: Stick {1}, Aman {1}
(0) Bookwyrm: Kas {2}
(2) Silver: Stick {2}, Kas {3}
(1) Aman: Wizard {1}
(0) Devo: Aman {2}
(1) Fifth: Aman {3}

Mat(t) votes Aman, 
[Adds Aman to a now 3-way tie]

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(2) Xino: Kas {1}, Exotic {1}, Nerdy {1}
(0) Hael: Stick {1}, Aman {1}
(0) Bookwyrm: Kas {2}
(2) Silver: Stick {2}, Kas {3}
(2) Aman: Wizard {1}, Mat(t) {1}
(0) Devo: Aman {2}
(1) Fifth: Aman {3}

Mat(t) moves to Nerdy from Aman, as

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(2) Xino: Kas {1}, Exotic {1}, Nerdy {1}
(0) Hael: Stick {1}, Aman {1}
(0) Bookwyrm: Kas {2}
(2) Silver: Stick {2}, Kas {3}
(1) Aman: Wizard {1}, Mat(t) {1}
(0) Devo: Aman {2}
(1) Fifth: Aman {3}
(1) Nerdy: Mat(t) {2}

Xino votes Nerdy, as his e!Read (Mat(t) is their village read, as requested by Stick)

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(2) Xino: Kas {1}, Exotic {1}, Nerdy {1}
(0) Hael: Stick {1}, Aman {1}
(0) Bookwyrm: Kas {2}
(2) Silver: Stick {2}, Kas {3}
(1) Aman: Wizard {1}, Mat(t) {1}
(0) Devo: Aman {2}
(1) Fifth: Aman {3}
(2) Nerdy: Mat(t) {2}, Xino {1}

Aman moves to Devo from Fifth, as they've posted and responded twice, but not voted or reacted to candidates.

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(2) Xino: Kas {1}, Exotic {1}, Nerdy {1}
(0) Hael: Stick {1}, Aman {1}
(0) Bookwyrm: Kas {2}
(2) Silver: Stick {2}, Kas {3}
(1) Aman: Wizard {1}, Mat(t) {1}
(1) Devo: Aman {2}, Aman {4}
(0) Fifth: Aman {3}
(2) Nerdy: Mat(t) {2}, Xino {1}

Stick moves to TUN from Silver, as they've been around and not expressed any views.

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(2) Xino: Kas {1}, Exotic {1}, Nerdy {1}
(0) Hael: Stick {1}, Aman {1}
(0) Bookwyrm: Kas {2}
(1) Silver: Stick {2}, Kas {3}
(1) Aman: Wizard {1}, Mat(t) {1}
(1) Devo: Aman {2}, Aman {4}
(0) Fifth: Aman {3}
(2) Nerdy: Mat(t) {2}, Xino {1}
(1) TUN: Stick {3}

Bookwyrm votes Nerdy, sussing their first post in C1, and commenting their Xino vote seems deflecting.

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(2) Xino: Kas {1}, Exotic {1}, Nerdy {1}
(0) Hael: Stick {1}, Aman {1}
(0) Bookwyrm: Kas {2}
(1) Silver: Stick {2}, Kas {3}
(1) Aman: Wizard {1}, Mat(t) {1}
(1) Devo: Aman {2}, Aman {4}
(0) Fifth: Aman {3}
(3) Nerdy: Mat(t) {2}, Xino {1}, Bookwyrm {1}
(1) TUN: Stick {3}

Wizard moves to Silver from Aman, as

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(2) Xino: Kas {1}, Exotic {1}, Nerdy {1}
(0) Hael: Stick {1}, Aman {1}
(0) Bookwyrm: Kas {2}
(2) Silver: Stick {2}, Kas {3}, Wizard {2}
(0) Aman: Wizard {1}, Mat(t) {1}
(1) Devo: Aman {2}, Aman {4}
(0) Fifth: Aman {3}
(3) Nerdy: Mat(t) {2}, Xino {1}, Bookwyrm {1}
(1) TUN: Stick {3}

Aman moves to Silver from Devo, interested that most of the people he's sus of have avoided jumping on that wagon. Specifically Nerdy and Xino are voting each other, neither is voting Silver.
[Ties Silver with Nerdy, 5 hours before EoC]

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(2) Xino: Kas {1}, Exotic {1}, Nerdy {1}
(0) Hael: Stick {1}, Aman {1}
(0) Bookwyrm: Kas {2}
(3) Silver: Stick {2}, Kas {3}, Wizard {2}, Aman {5}
(0) Aman: Wizard {1}, Mat(t) {1}
(0) Devo: Aman {2}, Aman {4}
(0) Fifth: Aman {3}
(3) Nerdy: Mat(t) {2}, Xino {1}, Bookwyrm {1}
(1) TUN: Stick {3}

Devo votes Silver, as
[Solidifying Silver execution]

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(2) Xino: Kas {1}, Exotic {1}, Nerdy {1}
(0) Hael: Stick {1}, Aman {1}
(0) Bookwyrm: Kas {2}
(4) Silver: Stick {2}, Kas {3}, Wizard {2}, Aman {5}, Devo {1}
(0) Aman: Wizard {1}, Mat(t) {1}
(0) Devo: Aman {2}, Aman {4}
(0) Fifth: Aman {3}
(3) Nerdy: Mat(t) {2}, Xino {1}, Bookwyrm {1}
(1) TUN: Stick {3}

Infinite votes Aman based on what they'd read but couldn't remember what made them sus. 

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(2) Xino: Kas {1}, Exotic {1}, Nerdy {1}
(0) Hael: Stick {1}, Aman {1}
(0) Bookwyrm: Kas {2}
(4) Silver: Stick {2}, Kas {3}, Wizard {2}, Aman {5}, Devo {1}
(1) Aman: Wizard {1}, Mat(t) {1}, Infinite {1}
(0) Devo: Aman {2}, Aman {4}
(0) Fifth: Aman {3}
(3) Nerdy: Mat(t) {2}, Xino {1}, Bookwyrm {1}
(1) TUN: Stick {3}

Fifth votes Silver because Nerdy showed up and Silver didn't.
[Explicitly puts Silver in a 2 vote lead, just under an hour before EoC]

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(2) Xino: Kas {1}, Exotic {1}, Nerdy {1}
(0) Hael: Stick {1}, Aman {1}
(0) Bookwyrm: Kas {2}
(5) Silver: Stick {2}, Kas {3}, Wizard {2}, Aman {5}, Devo {1}, Fifth {1}
(1) Aman: Wizard {1}, Mat(t) {1}, Infinite {1}
(0) Devo: Aman {2}, Aman {4}
(0) Fifth: Aman {3}
(3) Nerdy: Mat(t) {2}, Xino {1}, Bookwyrm {1}
(1) TUN: Stick {3}

Fifth moves to Xino from Silver posting a graphic stolen from Kas about something to do with low activity Xino games tend to be E!Xino games.
[Drops Silver one vote ahead of Xino and Nerdy, half an hour before EoC]

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(3) Xino: Kas {1}, Exotic {1}, Nerdy {1}, Fifth {2}
(0) Hael: Stick {1}, Aman {1}
(0) Bookwyrm: Kas {2}
(4) Silver: Stick {2}, Kas {3}, Wizard {2}, Aman {5}, Devo {1}, Fifth {1}
(1) Aman: Wizard {1}, Mat(t) {1}, Infinite {1}
(0) Devo: Aman {2}, Aman {4}
(0) Fifth: Aman {3}
(3) Nerdy: Mat(t) {2}, Xino {1}, Bookwyrm {1}
(1) TUN: Stick {3}

(4) Silver: Kas {3}, Wizard {1}, Aman {5}, Devo {1}
(3) Xino: Exotic {1}, Nerdy {1}, Fifth {2}
(3) Nerdy: Mat(t) {2}, Xino {1}, Bookwyrm {1}

Fifth moves to Aman from Xino, because Aman suggested yeeting himself.
[Drops Xino down to tie with Aman in third place for execution behind Silver and Nerdy at exactly 15 minutes before EoC]

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(2) Xino: Kas {1}, Exotic {1}, Nerdy {1}, Fifth {2}
(0) Hael: Stick {1}, Aman {1}
(0) Bookwyrm: Kas {2}
(4) Silver: Stick {2}, Kas {3}, Wizard {2}, Aman {5}, Devo {1}, Fifth {1}
(2) Aman: Wizard {1}, Mat(t) {1}, Infinite {1}, Fifth {3}
(0) Devo: Aman {2}, Aman {4}
(0) Fifth: Aman {3}
(3) Nerdy: Mat(t) {2}, Xino {1}, Bookwyrm {1}
(1) TUN: Stick {3}

(4) Silver: Kas {3}, Wizard {2}, Aman {5}, Devo {1}
(3) Nerdy: Mat(t) {2}, Xino {1}, Bookwyrm {1}
(2) Aman: Infinite {1}, Fifth {3}
(2) Xino: Exotic {1}, Nerdy {1}

Aman moves to Nerdy from Silver without context.
[13 minutes before EoC, putting Nerdy in the lead over Silver]

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(2) Xino: Kas {1}, Exotic {1}, Nerdy {1}, Fifth {2}
(0) Hael: Stick {1}, Aman {1}
(0) Bookwyrm: Kas {2}
(3) Silver: Stick {2}, Kas {3}, Wizard {2}, Aman {5}, Devo {1}, Fifth {1}
(2) Aman: Wizard {1}, Mat(t) {1}, Infinite {1}, Fifth {3}
(0) Devo: Aman {2}, Aman {4}
(0) Fifth: Aman {3}
(4) Nerdy: Mat(t) {2}, Xino {1}, Bookwyrm {1}, Aman {6}
(1) TUN: Stick {3}

(4) Nerdy: Mat(t) {2}, Xino {1}, Bookwyrm {1}, Aman {6}
(3) Silver: Kas {3}, Wizard {2}, Devo {1}
(2) Aman: Infinite {1}, Fifth {3}
(2) Xino: Exotic {1}, Nerdy {1}

TUN votes Szeth as an excuse to vote without voting. Promises to vote next cycle. 
[Seconds after Aman]

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(2) Xino: Kas {1}, Exotic {1}, Nerdy {1}, Fifth {2}
(0) Hael: Stick {1}, Aman {1}
(0) Bookwyrm: Kas {2}
(3) Silver: Stick {2}, Kas {3}, Wizard {2}, Aman {5}, Devo {1}, Fifth {1}
(2) Aman: Wizard {1}, Mat(t) {1}, Infinite {1}, Fifth {3}
(0) Devo: Aman {2}, Aman {4}
(0) Fifth: Aman {3}
(4) Nerdy: Mat(t) {2}, Xino {1}, Bookwyrm {1}, Aman {6}
(1) TUN: Stick {3}
(1) Szeth: TUN {1}

(4) Nerdy: Mat(t) {2}, Xino {1}, Bookwyrm {1}, Aman {6}
(3) Silver: Kas {3}, Wizard {2}, Devo {1}
(2) Aman: Infinite {1}, Fifth {3}
(2) Xino: Exotic {1}, Nerdy {1}

Fifth moves to Hael from Aman, with only the context of quoting my post of confusion.
[9 minutes before EoC, no other votes on Hael at the time, dropping Aman out of any risk.]

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(2) Xino: Kas {1}, Exotic {1}, Nerdy {1}, Fifth {2}
(1) Hael: Stick {1}, Aman {1}, Fifth {4}
(0) Bookwyrm: Kas {2}
(3) Silver: Stick {2}, Kas {3}, Wizard {2}, Aman {5}, Devo {1}, Fifth {1}
(1) Aman: Wizard {1}, Mat(t) {1}, Infinite {1}, Fifth {3}
(0) Devo: Aman {2}, Aman {4}
(0) Fifth: Aman {3}
(4) Nerdy: Mat(t) {2}, Xino {1}, Bookwyrm {1}, Aman {6}
(1) TUN: Stick {3}
(1) Szeth: TUN {1}

(4) Nerdy: Mat(t) {2}, Xino {1}, Bookwyrm {1}, Aman {6}
(3) Silver: Kas {3}, Wizard {1}, Devo {1}
(2) Xino: Exotic {1}, Nerdy {1}

Stick moves to Fifth from TUN, just saying "Fifth?" in response to Fifth's last two votes.
[Seconds after Fifth's vote]

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(2) Xino: Kas {1}, Exotic {1}, Nerdy {1}, Fifth {2}
(1) Hael: Stick {1}, Aman {1}, Fifth {4}
(0) Bookwyrm: Kas {2}
(3) Silver: Stick {2}, Kas {3}, Wizard {2}, Aman {5}, Devo {1}, Fifth {1}
(1) Aman: Wizard {1}, Mat(t) {1}, Infinite {1}, Fifth {3}
(0) Devo: Aman {2}, Aman {4}
(1) Fifth: Aman {3}, Stick {4} 
(4) Nerdy: Mat(t) {2}, Xino {1}, Bookwyrm {1}, Aman {6}
(0) TUN: Stick {3}
(1) Szeth: TUN {1}

(4) Nerdy: Mat(t) {2}, Xino {1}, Bookwyrm {1}, Aman {6}
(3) Silver: Kas {3}, Wizard {2}, Devo {1}
(2) Xino: Exotic {1}, Nerdy {1}

Fifth moves to Aman from Hael,
[4 minutes before EoC, returning Aman into consideration for execution.]

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(2) Xino: Kas {1}, Exotic {1}, Nerdy {1}, Fifth {2}
(0) Hael: Stick {1}, Aman {1}, Fifth {4}
(0) Bookwyrm: Kas {2}
(3) Silver: Stick {2}, Kas {3}, Wizard {2}, Aman {5}, Devo {1}, Fifth {1}
(2) Aman: Wizard {1}, Mat(t) {1}, Infinite {1}, Fifth {3}, Fifth {5}
(0) Devo: Aman {2}, Aman {4}
(1) Fifth: Aman {3}, Stick {4} 
(4) Nerdy: Mat(t) {2}, Xino {1}, Bookwyrm {1}, Aman {6}
(0) TUN: Stick {3}
(1) Szeth: TUN {1}

(4) Nerdy: Mat(t) {2}, Xino {1}, Bookwyrm {1}, Aman {6}
(3) Silver: Kas {3}, Wizard {2}, Devo {1}
(2) Xino: Exotic {1}, Nerdy {1}
(2) Aman: Infinite {1}, Fifth {5}

Hael votes Silver being uncomfortable at the last-minute vote movement seemingly protecting Silver from the execution, last minute Elim hammer style.
[Seconds after Fifth's vote, 4 minutes before EoC, tying Silver and Nerdy]

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(2) Xino: Kas {1}, Exotic {1}, Nerdy {1}, Fifth {2}
(0) Hael: Stick {1}, Aman {1}, Fifth {4}
(0) Bookwyrm: Kas {2}
(4) Silver: Stick {2}, Kas {3}, Wizard {2}, Aman {5}, Devo {1}, Fifth {1}< Hael {1}
(3) Aman: Wizard {1}, Mat(t) {1}, Infinite {1}, Fifth {3}, Fifth {5}
(0) Devo: Aman {2}, Aman {4}
(1) Fifth: Aman {3}, Stick {4} 
(4) Nerdy: Mat(t) {2}, Xino {1}, Bookwyrm {1}, Aman {6}
(0) TUN: Stick {3}
(1) Szeth: TUN {1}

(4) Nerdy: Mat(t) {2}, Xino {1}, Bookwyrm {1}, Aman {6}
(4) Silver: Kas {3}, Wizard {2}, Devo {1}, Hael {1}
(2) Xino: Exotic {1}, Nerdy {1}
(2) Aman: Infinite {1}, Fifth {5}

Kas moves to Nerdy from Silver, concerned about the vote volatility, unsure whether village or elim hammer.
[4 minutes before EoC, putting Nerdy in a two-vote lead over Silver and Aman]

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(2) Xino: Kas {1}, Exotic {1}, Nerdy {1}, Fifth {2}
(0) Hael: Stick {1}, Aman {1}, Fifth {4}
(0) Bookwyrm: Kas {2}
(3) Silver: Stick {2}, Kas {3}, Wizard {2}, Aman {5}, Devo {1}, Fifth {1}, Hael {1}
(2) Aman: Wizard {1}, Mat(t) {1}, Infinite {1}, Fifth {3}, Fifth {5}
(0) Devo: Aman {2}, Aman {4}
(1) Fifth: Aman {3}, Stick {4} 
(5) Nerdy: Mat(t) {2}, Xino {1}, Bookwyrm {1}, Aman {6}, Kas {4}
(0) TUN: Stick {3}
(1) Szeth: TUN {1}

(5) Nerdy: Mat(t) {2}, Xino {1}, Bookwyrm {1}, Aman {6}, Kas {4}
(3) Silver: Wizard {2}, Devo {1}, Hael {1}
(2) Xino: Exotic {1}, Nerdy {1}
(2) Aman: Infinite {1}, Fifth {5}

Mat(t) moves to Aman from Nerdy, citing wrong vibes from Aman for continually sussing Mat(t) for throwing down on the Silver vote.
[2 minutes before EoC, tying Aman with Silver, with Nerdy one vote ahead]

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(2) Xino: Kas {1}, Exotic {1}, Nerdy {1}, Fifth {2}
(0) Hael: Stick {1}, Aman {1}, Fifth {4}
(0) Bookwyrm: Kas {2}
(3) Silver: Stick {2}, Kas {3}, Wizard {2}, Aman {5}, Devo {1}, Fifth {1}, Hael {1}
(3) Aman: Wizard {1}, Mat(t) {1}, Infinite {1}, Fifth {3}, Fifth {5}, Mat(t) {3}
(0) Devo: Aman {2}, Aman {4}
(1) Fifth: Aman {3}, Stick {4} 
(4) Nerdy: Mat(t) {2}, Xino {1}, Bookwyrm {1}, Aman {6}, Kas {4}
(0) TUN: Stick {3}
(1) Szeth: TUN {1}

(4) Nerdy: Xino {1}, Bookwyrm {1}, Aman {6}, Kas {4}
(3) Silver: Wizard {2}, Devo {1}, Hael {1}
(3) Aman: Infinite {1}, Fifth {3}, Mat(t) {3}
(2) Xino: Exotic {1}, Nerdy {1}

Stick moves to Silver from Fifth without comment.
[1 minutes before EoC, tying Silver and Nerdy, with Aman one behind]

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(2) Xino: Kas {1}, Exotic {1}, Nerdy {1}, Fifth {2}
(0) Hael: Stick {1}, Aman {1}, Fifth {4}
(0) Bookwyrm: Kas {2}
(4) Silver: Stick {2}, Kas {3}, Wizard {2}, Aman {5}, Devo {1}, Fifth {1}, Hael {1}, Stick {5}
(3) Aman: Wizard {1}, Mat(t) {1}, Infinite {1}, Fifth {3}, Fifth {5}, Mat(t) {3}
(0) Devo: Aman {2}, Aman {4}
(0) Fifth: Aman {3}, Stick {4} 
(4) Nerdy: Mat(t) {2}, Xino {1}, Bookwyrm {1}, Aman {6}, Kas {4}
(0) TUN: Stick {3}
(1) Szeth: TUN {1}

(4) Nerdy: Xino {1}, Bookwyrm {1}, Aman {6}, Kas {4}
(4) Silver: Wizard {2}, Devo {1}, Hael {1}, Stick {5}
(3) Aman: Infinite {1}, Fifth {3}, Mat(t) {3}
(2) Xino: Exotic {1}, Nerdy {1}

Kas moves to Silver from Nerdy, citing RNG gods.
[On the buzzer, only seconds before Szeth calls time, putting Silver ahead of the other candidates]

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(2) Xino: Kas {1}, Exotic {1}, Nerdy {1}, Fifth {2}
(0) Hael: Stick {1}, Aman {1}, Fifth {4}
(0) Bookwyrm: Kas {2}
(5) Silver: Stick {2}, Kas {3}, Wizard {2}, Aman {5}, Devo {1}, Fifth {1}, Hael {1}, Stick {5}, Kas {5}
(3) Aman: Wizard {1}, Mat(t) {1}, Infinite {1}, Fifth {3}, Fifth {5}, Mat(t) {3}
(0) Devo: Aman {2}, Aman {4}
(0) Fifth: Aman {3}, Stick {4} 
(3) Nerdy: Mat(t) {2}, Xino {1}, Bookwyrm {1}, Aman {6}, Kas {4}
(0) TUN: Stick {3}
(1) Szeth: TUN {1}

(5) Silver: Wizard {2}, Devo {1}, Hael {1}, Stick {5}, Kas {5}
(3) Nerdy: Xino {1}, Bookwyrm {1}, Aman {6}
(3) Aman: Infinite {1}, Fifth {3}, Mat(t) {3}
(2) Xino: Exotic {1}, Nerdy {1}

 

Cycle Three

Spoiler

Mat(t) votes Aman, saying he's glad he unvoted Nerdy in favour of Silvereye. Notes the Wiz kill as being funny.

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(1) Aman: Mat(t) {1}

Aman votes Mat(t), commenting on the difference in EoD behaviour from C1 and C2, and the differnce in response to the Dannex execution vs Silver.

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(1) Aman: Mat(t) {1}
(1) Mat(t): Aman {1}

Kas votes Fifth, susing Aman and Fifth for their EoD C2 chaos, with Aman already having a vote.

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(1) Aman: Mat(t) {1}
(1) Mat(t): Aman {1}
(1) Fifth: Kas {1}

Fifth votes Aman, giving e!read on him, vs ambivalent on Mat(t), though more in a Aman and Mat(t) aren't paired sorta way.

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(2) Aman: Mat(t) {1}, Fifth {1}
(1) Mat(t): Aman {1}
(1) Fifth: Kas {1}

Aman moves to Aman from Mat(t), wishing the village luck.

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(3) Aman: Mat(t) {1}, Fifth {1}, Aman {2}
(0) Mat(t): Aman {1}
(1) Fifth: Kas {1}

Kas moves to Xino from Fifth, as part of his ongoing V!Nerdy read, figuring the C2 Nerdy vote was impure, and sussing Xino over Bookwyrm or Aman. 

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(3) Aman: Mat(t) {1}, Fifth {1}, Aman {2}
(0) Mat(t): Aman {1}
(0) Fifth: Kas {1}
(1) Xino: Kas {2}

TUN votes Fifth, sus of both Aman and Fifth, may end on Aman but starting with Fifth.

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(3) Aman: Mat(t) {1}, Fifth {1}, Aman {2}
(0) Mat(t): Aman {1}
(1) Fifth: Kas {1}, TUN {1}
(1) Xino: Kas {2}

Kas moves to Aman from Xino, based on second to second analysis of last 15 minutes of cycle 2, saying

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(4) Aman: Mat(t) {1}, Fifth {1}, Aman {2}, Kas {3}
(0) Mat(t): Aman {1}
(1) Fifth: Kas {1}, TUN {1}
(0) Xino: Kas {2}

Nerdy votes Xino, thinking it safe to do so as Kas makes a good argument, though willing to vote Aman over Xino if people justify it being more urgent.

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(4) Aman: Mat(t) {1}, Fifth {1}, Aman {2}, Kas {3}
(0) Mat(t): Aman {1}
(1) Fifth: Kas {1}, TUN {1}
(1) Xino: Kas {2}, Nerdy {1}

Exotic votes Aman, "based one what [they] have read".

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(5) Aman: Mat(t) {1}, Fifth {1}, Aman {2}, Kas {3}, Exotic {1}
(0) Mat(t): Aman {1}
(1) Fifth: Kas {1}, TUN {1}
(1) Xino: Kas {2}, Nerdy {1}

Stick votes Aman based on similarities in Mat(t)/Aman conversations from C5 MR57 and this game.

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(6) Aman: Mat(t) {1}, Fifth {1}, Aman {2}, Kas {3}, Exotic {1}, Stick {1}
(0) Mat(t): Aman {1}
(1) Fifth: Kas {1}, TUN {1}
(1) Xino: Kas {2}, Nerdy {1}

Aman moves to Aman from Aman, this time posting reads and commentary about the situation.

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(6) Aman: Mat(t) {1}, Fifth {1}, Aman {2}, Kas {3}, Exotic {1}, Stick {1}, Aman {3}
(0) Mat(t): Aman {1}
(1) Fifth: Kas {1}, TUN {1}
(1) Xino: Kas {2}, Nerdy {1}

Stick votes Fifth, aiming to tie up votes between Aman and Fifth.

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(5) Aman: Mat(t) {1}, Fifth {1}, Aman {2}, Kas {3}, Exotic {1}, Stick {1}, Aman {3}
(0) Mat(t): Aman {1}
(2) Fifth: Kas {1}, TUN {1}, Stick {2}
(1) Xino: Kas {2}, Nerdy {1}

Kas moves to Nerdy from Aman, reevaluating and apologising about response to Aman, in response to Aman's commentary post.
[Notes this puts Kas as having had a vote on everyone but Mat(t), and preferring a Nerdy execution over the Fifth option, counter to his reads before and after of V!Nerdy]

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(4) Aman: Mat(t) {1}, Fifth {1}, Aman {2}, Kas {3}, Exotic {1}, Stick {1}, Aman {3}
(0) Mat(t): Aman {1}
(2) Fifth: Kas {1}, TUN {1}, Stick {1}
(1) Xino: Kas {2}, Nerdy {1}
(1) Nerdy: Kas {4}

Exotic moves to Fifth from Aman, without context.
[This ties up Aman and Fifth]

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(3) Aman: Mat(t) {1}, Fifth {1}, Aman {2}, Kas {3}, Exotic {1}, Stick {1}, Aman {3}
(0) Mat(t): Aman {1}
(3) Fifth: Kas {1}, TUN {1}, Stick {1}, Exotic {2}
(1) Xino: Kas {2}, Nerdy {1}
(1) Nerdy: Kas {4}

Bookwyrm votes Fifth without context.
[This puts Fifth into the lead]

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(3) Aman: Mat(t) {1}, Fifth {1}, Aman {2}, Kas {3}, Exotic {1}, Stick {1}, Aman {3}
(0) Mat(t): Aman {1}
(3) Fifth: Kas {1}, TUN {1}, Stick {1}, Exotic {2}, Bookwyrm {1}
(1) Xino: Kas {2}, Nerdy {1}
(1) Nerdy: Kas {4}

Kas moves to Xino from Nerdy, not wanting to execute Fifth based on theories he didn't think he could share.
[The theories are posted here later]

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(3) Aman: Mat(t) {1}, Fifth {1}, Aman {2}, Kas {3}, Exotic {1}, Stick {1}, Aman {3}
(0) Mat(t): Aman {1}
(4) Fifth: Kas {1}, TUN {1}, Stick {1}, Exotic {2}, Bookwyrm {1}
(2) Xino: Kas {2}, Nerdy {1}, Kas {5}
(0) Nerdy: Kas {4}

Hael votes Nerdy, based on the pointed out choice by I think Fifth to avoid voting Nerdy.

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(3) Aman: Mat(t) {1}, Fifth {1}, Aman {2}, Kas {3}, Exotic {1}, Stick {1}, Aman {3}
(0) Mat(t): Aman {1}
(4) Fifth: Kas {1}, TUN {1}, Stick {1}, Exotic {2}, Bookwyrm {1}
(2) Xino: Kas {2}, Nerdy {1}, Kas {5}
(1) Nerdy: Kas {4}, Hael {1}

Devo votes Xino, thinking Xino and Nerdy aren't E/E. Thinks more likely e!Nerdy than e/e Nerdy/Xino, with e!Fifth more likely a pairing with e!Nerdy. Votes Xino, but happy for either of Fifth and Nerdy to die also.

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(3) Aman: Mat(t) {1}, Fifth {1}, Aman {2}, Kas {3}, Exotic {1}, Stick {1}, Aman {3}
(0) Mat(t): Aman {1}
(4) Fifth: Kas {1}, TUN {1}, Stick {1}, Exotic {2}, Bookwyrm {1}
(3) Xino: Kas {2}, Nerdy {1}, Kas {5}, Devo {1}
(1) Nerdy: Kas {4}, Hael {1}

Hael moves to Xino from Nerdy, not wanting to execute Aman, explicitly opting to tie up Fifth and Xino, sealing Fifth's fate.

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(3) Aman: Mat(t) {1}, Fifth {1}, Aman {2}, Kas {3}, Exotic {1}, Stick {1}, Aman {3}
(0) Mat(t): Aman {1}
(4) Fifth: Kas {1}, TUN {1}, Stick {1}, Exotic {2}, Bookwyrm {1}
(4) Xino: Kas {2}, Nerdy {1}, Kas {5}, Devo {1}, Hael {2}
(1) Nerdy: Kas {4}, Hael {1}

Mat(t) moves to Fifth from Xino under protest, asking people execute Aman if Fifth is village and Mat(t) dies to the elim kill.
[Given we know both Fifth and Xino are village now, I think this makes Mat(t) feel village?]

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(3) Aman: Mat(t) {1}, Fifth {1}, Aman {2}, Kas {3}, Exotic {1}, Stick {1}, Aman {3}
(0) Mat(t): Aman {1}
(5) Fifth: Kas {1}, TUN {1}, Stick {1}, Exotic {2}, Bookwyrm {1}, Mat(t) {2}
(4) Xino: Kas {2}, Nerdy {1}, Kas {5}, Devo {1}, Hael {2}
(1) Nerdy: Kas {4}, Hael {1}

Cycle Four

Spoiler

Mat(t) votes Aman, commenting he won't move again.

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(1) Aman: Mat(t) {1}

Aman votes Aman, as is happy to die if village wishes, but hopes that people still consider what he has to say.

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(2) Aman: Mat(t) {1}, Aman {1}

Kas votes Xino, sick of people ignoring Xino for later, says is willing to vote Nerdy.

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(2) Aman: Mat(t) {1}, Aman {1}
(1) Xino: Kas {1}

Stick votes Nerdy, saying neither Bookwyrm or Xino is elims with Nerdy.

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(2) Aman: Mat(t) {1}, Aman {1}
(1) Xino: Kas {1}
(1) Nerdy: Stick {1}

Xino votes Nerdy, just saying they forgot about the last cycle. Potentially something here, choosing to join Stick on Nerdy over jumping on Aman.

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(2) Aman: Mat(t) {1}, Aman {1}
(1) Xino: Kas {1}
(2) Nerdy: Stick {1}, Xino {1}

Kas moves to TUN from Xino, hypothesising that kills are sniping.

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(2) Aman: Mat(t) {1}, Aman {1}
(0) Xino: Kas {1}
(2) Nerdy: Stick {1}, Xino {1}
(1) TUN: Kas {2}

Mat(t) moves to TUN from Aman, as they feel a middle ground between voting highly active and voting inactive players (even though they said they wouldn't move from Aman).

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(1) Aman: Mat(t) {1}, Aman {1}
(0) Xino: Kas {1}
(2) Nerdy: Stick {1}, Xino {1}
(2) TUN: Kas {2}, Mat(t) {2}

Aman moves to Xino from Aman, no longer having to self-vote.

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(0) Aman: Mat(t) {1}, Aman {1}
(1) Xino: Kas {1}, Aman {2}
(2) Nerdy: Stick {1}, Xino {1}
(2) TUN: Kas {2}, Mat(t) {2}

TUN votes Nerdy, questioning Mat(t) about whether e!Nerdy confirms v!TUN, though commenting he feels Nerdy should be village. Will consider voting Xino.
[Will note that a Nerdy vote here is self protective]

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(0) Aman: Mat(t) {1}, Aman {1}
(1) Xino: Kas {1}, Aman {2}
(3) Nerdy: Stick {1}, Xino {1}, TUN {1}
(2) TUN: Kas {2}, Mat(t) {2}

Bookwyrm votes Nerdy, having earlier said they'd choose between Nerdy and Xino, but makes no comment on why Nerdy over Xino.
[Slight sus for jumping on the leading wagon rather than tying things up]

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(0) Aman: Mat(t) {1}, Aman {1}
(1) Xino: Kas {1}, Aman {2}
(4) Nerdy: Stick {1}, Xino {1}, TUN {1}, Bookwyrm {1}
(2) TUN: Kas {2}, Mat(t) {2}

Infinite votes Xino, because discussion is mainly on Xino and Nerdy and they see Xino more than the Nerdy execution.
[Mild sus on Infinite here, given no reasoning, and this helps refocus the execution on Xino somewhat.]

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(0) Aman: Mat(t) {1}, Aman {1}
(2) Xino: Kas {1}, Aman {2}, Infinite {1}
(4) Nerdy: Stick {1}, Xino {1}, TUN {1}, Bookwyrm {1}
(2) TUN: Kas {2}, Mat(t) {2}

Mat(t) moves to Nerdy from TUN, figuring e!Nerdy suggests e!Hael/Stick/Kas, and v!Nerdy suggests e!TUN/Aman. 

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(0) Aman: Mat(t) {1}, Aman {1}
(2) Xino: Kas {1}, Aman {2}, Infinite {1}
(5) Nerdy: Stick {1}, Xino {1}, TUN {1}, Bookwyrm {1}, Mat(t) {3}
(1) TUN: Kas {2}, Mat(t) {2}

 Kas moves to Xino from TUN, speculating a pure execution on Xino vs the Fifth execution suggesting elim action on Fifth and avoiding protecting a potential buddy.

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(0) Aman: Mat(t) {1}, Aman {1}
(3) Xino: Kas {1}, Aman {2}, Infinite {1}, Kas {3}
(5) Nerdy: Stick {1}, Xino {1}, TUN {1}, Bookwyrm {1}, Mat(t) {3}
(0) TUN: Kas {2}, Mat(t) {2}

Hael votes Xino based on following the thread early in cycle but not posting for another 14 hours, thinking the lurking sus.

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(0) Aman: Mat(t) {1}, Aman {1}
(4) Xino: Kas {1}, Aman {2}, Infinite {1}, Kas {3}, Hael {1}
(5) Nerdy: Stick {1}, Xino {1}, TUN {1}, Bookwyrm {1}, Mat(t) {3}
(0) TUN: Kas {2}, Mat(t) {2}

Mat(t) moves to Xino from Nerdy, doing so in the last 30 minutes of cycle. 
[Notes that with this move, Mat(t) was present on every proposed execution target that cycle, despite opening the cycle claiming that he wouldn't shift from Aman]

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(0) Aman: Mat(t) {1}, Aman {1}
(5) Xino: Kas {1}, Aman {2}, Infinite {1}, Kas {3}, Hael {1}, Mat(t) {4}
(4) Nerdy: Stick {1}, Xino {1}, TUN {1}, Bookwyrm {1}, Mat(t) {3}
(0) TUN: Kas {2}, Mat(t) {2}

@Kasimir Thanks for pointing out the error with Wizard.

I guess while I'm at it, although it largely doubles up Kas' own work, the Detailed final Vote Tallies for Cycles 1-4.

Green = SDPS Member (Village Boring)
Blue = Inner Circle Member (Village Trust Group)
Red = Spy
 

Vote Tallies

Spoiler

Cycle One
(6) Danex: JNV, Bookwrym, Silvereye, Hael, Aman, Kas
(3) Kas: Danex, Nerdy, Xino
(1) Mat(t): Fifth
(1) Stick: Mat(t)
(1) Fifth: Devo

Cycle Two
(5) Silvereye: Wizard, Devo, Hael, Stick, Kas
(3) Aman: Infinite, Fifth, Mat(t)
(3) Nerdy: Xino, Bookwyrm, Aman
(2) Xino: Exotic, Nerdy
(1) Szeth: TUN

Cycle Three
(5) Fifth: TUN, Stick, Exotic, Bookwyrm, Mat(t)
(4) Xino: Nerdy, Kas, Devo, Hael
(2) Aman: Fifth, Aman

Cycle Four
(5) Xino: Aman, Infinite, Kas, Hael, Mat(t)
(4) Nerdy: Stick, Xino, TUN, Bookwyrm

Cycle Five (Current)
(6) Nerdy: Bookwyrm, TUN, Mat(t), Kas, Stick
(1) Stick: Exotic
(1) Aman: Nerdy
(1) Archer: Aman

Vote Tallies (Detailed)

Spoiler

Cycle One
(0) Devo: Kas {1}
(0) Aman: Hael {1}
(4) Kas: Danex {1}, Nerdy {1}, Kas {3}, Xino {1}
(0) Hael: TUN {1}
(4) Danex: Kas {2}, Stick {1}, Aman {1}, JNV {1}, Bookwrym {1}, Silvereye {1}, Hael {2}, Aman {4}, Kas {4}
(1) Mat(t): TUN {2}, Fifth {1}, Aman {2}
(0) Wizard: Aman {3}
(1) Stick: Mat(t) {1}
(1) Fifth: Devo {1}

Night Killed: JNV

Cycle Two
(2) Xino: Kas {1}, Exotic {1}, Nerdy {1}, Fifth {2}
(0) Hael: Stick {1}, Aman {1}, Fifth {4}
(0) Bookwyrm: Kas {2}
(5) Silvereye: Stick {2}, Kas {3}, Wizard {1}, Aman {5}, Devo {1}, Fifth {1}, Hael {1}, Stick {5}, Kas {5}
(0) Devo: Aman {2}, Aman {4}
(0) Fifth: Aman {3}, Stick {4}
(3) Aman: Mat(t) {1}, Infinite {1}, Fifth {3}, Fifth {5}, Mat(t) {3}
(3) Nerdy: Mat(t) {2}, Xino {1}, Bookwyrm {1}, Aman {6}, Kas {4}
(0) TUN: Stick {3}
(1) Szeth: TUN {1}

Night Killed: Wizard

Cycle Three
(2) Aman: Mat(t) {1}, Fifth {1}, Aman {2}, Kas {3}, Exotic {1}, Stick {1}, Aman {3}
(0) Mat(t): Aman {1}
(5) Fifth: Kas {1}, TUN {1}, Stick {2}, Exotic {2}, Bookwyrm {1}, Mat(t) {2}
(4) Xino: Kas {2}, Nerdy {1}, Kas {5}, Devo {1}, Hael {2}
(0) Nerdy: Kas {4}, Hael {1}

Night Killed: Devo

Cycle Four
(0) Aman: Mat(t) {1}, Aman {1}
(5) Xino: Kas {1}, Aman {2}, Infinite {1}, Kas {3}, Hael {1}, Mat(t) {4}
(4) Nerdy: Stick {1}, Xino {1}, TUN {1}, Bookwyrm {1}, Mat(t) {3}
(0) TUN: Kas {2}, Mat(t) {2}

Night Killed: Xino

Cycle Five (Current)
(5) Nerdy: Stick {1}, Bookwyrm {1}, Nerdy {1}, TUN {1}, Aman {2}, Mat(t) {4}, Kas {3}, Stick {3}
(0) TUN: Kas {1}, Mat(t) {1}, Mat(t) {3}
(0) Hael: Stick {2}, Kas {2}, Aman {1}
(1) Stick: Mat(t) {2}, Exotic {1}
(1) Aman: Nerdy {2}
(1) Archer: Aman {3}

 

Edited December 23, 2022 by Haelbarde

[Stick.]

._.

please, no more ;-;

[Stick.]

TUN

edit:

no

TUN

Edited December 23, 2022 by _Stick_

[Kasimir]

4 hours ago, Haelbarde said:

@Kasimir Thanks for pointing out the error with Wizard.

I will admit I was massively excited for one hot second when I read it like "WAIT WHAT STICK OH GOD" then realised that it didn't match my sense of the votes since it had been 4-4 and I never recalled Aman accumulating four votes.

3 hours ago, _Stick_ said:

TUN

edit:

no

TUN

Even if TUN, can we avoid a world in which one of us is Evil now? It's more or less foregone right. I don't see a coherent team within <Bookwyrm, TUN, Insanity, Almond.>

Literally Stick last cycle: "We'll have to deal with this again this cycle..."

[Stick.]

36 minutes ago, Kasimir said:

Even if TUN, can we avoid a world in which one of us is Evil now? It's more or less foregone right. I don't see a coherent team within <Bookwyrm, TUN, Insanity, Almond.>

What if it's <Silvereye, Bookwyrm, TUN, Insanity>?? ;-; I don't believe that even as I type it.

I'll point out that I wouldn't have killed Mat right as he got around to letting go of his suspicion about me

Why did they kill Mat. Maybe I was defending him too much = IC doc implications? I dun geddit if they think I'm defending people based off that principle (xino, Mat, etc) why don't they just kill me first to find out

Edit:

I think the elims want to keep me as a ML

Edited December 23, 2022 by _Stick_

[Kasimir]

19 minutes ago, _Stick_ said:

Why did they kill Mat. Maybe I was defending him too much = IC doc implications? I dun geddit if they think I'm defending people based off that principle (xino, Mat, etc) why don't they just kill me first to find out

Insanity and Almond were hardcleared. You pointed out Almond's inactivity - it's possible there's no profile match in the IC doc. No idea, WMGing here.

Not killing between <Bookwyrm, TUN> is weirder.

19 minutes ago, _Stick_ said:

I think the elims want to keep me as a ML

Literally everyone except Mat could be MLed. Aman considered Mat Village, you and I both considered Mat Village. Bookwyrm decided to look at me, you got some votes and Aman mentioned the possibility of E!you, E!me, E!Hael. Hael himself nearly got voted out last cycle.

What surprises me is for whatever reason, the Elims seem to have categorically excluded the idea of IC!you or IC!Hael.

I'm surprised they kept Aman around given that Mat was the main driving force behind Aman suspicion - but AFAICT, Aman is the one slot I am not willing to reconsider, and I don't really care if deadspec hates this, I'm not interested in screwing around with policy reasons and I'll take the L and responsibility for my failure to rethink if need be. What Hael said earlier, in a nutshell.

See part of me is like ??? e.g. Bookwyrm / TUN - why did the Elims prefer a Mat kill?

But it makes sense in light of a Nerdy green I think - the Elims know that is coming and favour making us snap at each other? IDK, part of me also thinks "Yes, but surely you should just shoot IC." Unless the implication is:

A. They are not as close to finishing off the remaining IC as we think they are (i.e. they could not have closed it out with one shot)

B. They are trolling/playing with their food.

Neither of which is helpful, I know, sigh.

Edited to add: @_Stick_ - How likely do you find a two player team at this juncture? 

Edited to add 2: @Haelbarde, I'm curious what conclusion your vote tallies have taken you to?

Edited to add 3:

19 minutes ago, _Stick_ said:

What if it's <Silvereye, Bookwyrm, TUN, Insanity>?? ;-; I don't believe that even as I type it.

At this juncture, I no longer believe if I truly believe this is impossible in the sense that I either am desperate to avoid trying to choose (from my POV) between you and Hael, or I have just gone stark raving insane from how nothing in this game has made sense anymore.

Edited December 23, 2022 by Kasimir

[Stick.]

16 minutes ago, Kasimir said:

 @_Stick_ - How likely do you find a two player team at this juncture?

Based off our current credences, NO  Because that implies e!Aman and e!Silver only. I don't really see a two-player team working otherwise. 

16 minutes ago, Kasimir said:

I'm surprised they kept Aman around

tbh he is not likely to be IC and you've explained this in-thread before so...

Edit:

15 minutes ago, Kasimir said:

At this juncture, I no longer believe if I truly believe this is impossible in the sense that I either am desperate to avoid trying to choose (from my POV) between you and Hael, or I have just gone stark raving insane from how nothing in this game has made sense anymore.

Uh. If there's three elims left then isn't this technically lylo? As in, if we misexe today then the elims just kill the village off as a whole faster than we can exe them. 

Edited December 23, 2022 by _Stick_

[Kasimir]

11 minutes ago, _Stick_ said:

tbh he is not likely to be IC and you've explained this in-thread before so...

Does E!Stick kill Aman?

I know this is a question you are motivated to say 'no' to whether Village or Evil but I think it's interesting anyway.

11 minutes ago, _Stick_ said:

Based off our current credences, NO  Because that implies e!Aman and e!Silver only. I don't really see a two-player team working otherwise. 

Part of the reason why I do want to open the can of worms right now is because I am looking at the player list. We started with seventeen - now we're on eight.

What do we know of the nine who died? One spy, two ICs, and six SDPS.

K so tbh: I'm just going to come out and say this because I feel desperate, and the Elim team, whoever they are, are sharp or we wouldn't be running around in circles for no evident reason.

1. I'm obviously not IC. Neither confirm nor deny, blah blah blah, whatever. Neither is Aman. I don't really care what he says, he can say what he wants to. That's my view of the situation, and I think a reasonable view for the Elims to work with, since neither of us is dead.

8 - 2 = 6

2. I'm guessing at least two more IC (Winz incl.), and two more Spies. 

Which means that from the Spies perspective, they should really have had 1/2 odds of hitting IC/Winz if they ignored me/Aman/Mat.

...Why didn't they go for it?

This is more complicated in a single remaining Spy world but ehhhh.

Edited to add:

11 minutes ago, _Stick_ said:

Uh. If there's three elims left then isn't this technically lylo? As in, if we misexe today then the elims just kill the village off as a whole faster than we can exe them. 

SORRY I CAN'T MATHS TODAY IT SEEMS ;-;

Ok ok if it's three we're screwed gg wp 104

I have been going between a team of three and four in my head, yeah.

Edited December 23, 2022 by Kasimir

[Stick.]

11 minutes ago, Kasimir said:

Does E!Stick kill Aman?

I know this is a question you are motivated to say 'no' to whether Village or Evil but I think it's interesting anyway.

Probably not because he would have been exed C3

Kas, how baffling/frustrating is this game to you compared to MR56? On a scale of 1-10. I'm curious, because I have never felt so lost in a game before

The elim(s) should be ashamed of themselves >:(

[Haelbarde]

13 minutes ago, Kasimir said:

I'm curious what conclusion your vote tallies have taken you to?

I'm curious too. I spent a couple of hours working on them in hope that it would reveal something when studied, but most of my attention just went into writing them. I think I noted a few things as I went through in [square brackets] but I think most of them were me sussing Mat(t)...

Plan is still to try and look at players that voted together, or look for tunnels, which having the votes pulled out only should help compile. Figuring when actually doing some ISOs on people this cycle also, the vote tallies may help with giving context for voting choices or suspicions when there weren't up to date tallies in thread. But I'm fairly tapped out for today (11:15pm local time), so when I get up in the morning, that's when I'll start digging back into them.

1 minute ago, Kasimir said:

Part of the reason why I do want to open the can of worms right now is because I am looking at the player list. We started with seventeen - now we're on eight.

Feels we've got two more mistakes at most if we're lucky...

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I feel like Szeth needs an award with a pithy title for the degree of confusion that his distro has left on thread, along with whoever has been involved in making it happen. >>

Where I'm at presently is I'm unwilling to execute Aman or Kas on principle unless some very compelling evidence is found implicating them. I've been feeling positive about Stick's interactions the whole game, I've felt okay with Infinite's stuff, not sure that Exotic has been active enough to be the real danger, though could be a decent candidate I think for a low active elim, and then I don't recall a ton about TUN or Bookwyrm. And if there's anyone else in the game, I've forgotten them. 

[Amanuensis]

Bleh.

TUN

I feel like this game can be solved today

[Kasimir]

52 minutes ago, _Stick_ said:

Kas, how baffling/frustrating is this game to you compared to MR56? On a scale of 1-10. I'm curious, because I have never felt so lost in a game before

Honestly - almost want to say it's a toss-up. The thing about MR56 is that without flips, we only have theories. So it feels like you're chasing at the wind. The problem is that in this game, we have flips, we just don't know where the connections really go/who the sensible Elims are. So it's a different kind of frustration. I've only rarely felt this lost before: MR56 is the natural comparator, besides that, I guess. I sort of want to say QF62 but also not really - getting FUDed hard by Mat felt frustrating but it felt like there was something there if I could just brute force solve in the <TUN, Mat, Devo?> pool.

So I guess MR56 would be a 9 and this game would be an 8 or 8.5. I take comfort in the fact we get flips, but I'm just struggling to make sense of what we have, even with flips and post analysis.

I don't know what a 10 is, not sure I wanna play that game.

52 minutes ago, _Stick_ said:

Probably not because he would have been exed C3

I mean, my other point is, with Mat and I convinced of V!you, and Aman sort of exploring E!you and E!Hael, stabbing him rather than Mat would be a decent move for E!you since it'd probably mean a you-Hael thunderdome the next day but given where Mat and I had ended the last Day...

46 minutes ago, Haelbarde said:

Feels we've got two more mistakes at most if we're lucky...

I mean, isn't that what Orlok says? Play every cycle like it's lylo >>

46 minutes ago, Haelbarde said:

I'm curious too. I spent a couple of hours working on them in hope that it would reveal something when studied, but most of my attention just went into writing them. I think I noted a few things as I went through in [square brackets] but I think most of them were me sussing Mat(t)...

Plan is still to try and look at players that voted together, or look for tunnels, which having the votes pulled out only should help compile. Figuring when actually doing some ISOs on people this cycle also, the vote tallies may help with giving context for voting choices or suspicions when there weren't up to date tallies in thread. But I'm fairly tapped out for today (11:15pm local time), so when I get up in the morning, that's when I'll start digging back into them.

Fair. I probably still need a nap before a final major push. I'm in recovery from the last two weeks of convnet exam + report to be honest.

Edited to add:

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So I guess MR56 would be a 9 and this game would be an 8 or 8.5. I take comfort in the fact we get flips, but I'm just struggling to make sense of what we have, even with flips and post analysis.

This should read vote analysis. I'm tired.

Edited December 23, 2022 by Kasimir

[Stick.]

6 minutes ago, Amanuensis said:

I feel like this game can be solved today

By the elims, I agree ;eyes;

5 minutes ago, Kasimir said:

Honestly - almost want to say it's a toss-up. The thing about MR56 is that without flips, we only have theories. So it feels like you're chasing at the wind. The problem is that in this game, we have flips, we just don't know where the connections really go/who the sensible Elims are. So it's a different kind of frustration. I've only rarely felt this lost before: MR56 is the natural comparator, besides that, I guess. I sort of want to say QF62 but also not really - getting FUDed hard by Mat felt frustrating but it felt like there was something there if I could just brute force solve in the <TUN, Mat, Devo?> pool.

So I guess MR56 would be a 9 and this game would be an 8 or 8.5. I take comfort in the fact we get flips, but I'm just struggling to make sense of what we have, even with flips and post analysis.

I don't know what a 10 is, not sure I wanna play that game.

Yeah fair enough

Why didn't TUN kill Kas like three cycles ago - IC or not, TUN seems aware of the fact that Kas always wants him dead. He said this in a post last cycle. Ideally he should be getting rid of him to lower the chances of a TUN push.

[Kasimir]

2 minutes ago, _Stick_ said:

Why didn't TUN kill Kas like three cycles ago - IC or not, TUN seems aware of the fact that Kas always wants him dead. He said this in a post last cycle. Ideally he should be getting rid of him to lower the chances of a TUN push.

That's the main consideration keeping me off a dedicated TUN push right now - I still don't feel good about TUN's approach to the game and general dgaf, but at the same time, I agree with Ash about TUN's kill preferences being retaliation and noise. I suppose I should (and will) go check this against his playhistory since he has just eight Elim games, but that being said, I don't really see TUN going low profile for so many cycles like this either.

But again: if not TUN, then who? Bookwyrm? I don't know why E!Bookwyrm doesn't just vote and shift later? Learning from previous games? 

Hael? IDK, doesn't feel right.

You? But why not just go after Silver. Casing Silver is a deliberate move IMO and if you case him, you are already prepared to distance in which case there is no reason to half-arse it. I don't buy that.

Aman? Yeah, no.

I rechecked my GM PM just in case I've been playing this game all wrong (or right I guess, IDK) but yeah no dice.

But then that leaves me with a very bare pool.

I would honestly be willing to relook Almond but Almond cannot have put in the kill that cycle.

[Amanuensis]

Realistically, we're looking at:

1 of <Stick, Hael>
1 of <TUN, Book>

I'm village reading Insanity and Almond and will not consider them

[Stick.]

I think I have given up

Spoiler

 

Spoiler

 

[Amanuensis]

2 minutes ago, _Stick_ said:

I think I have given up

So you want the Spies to win, HUH!?

[Stick.]

6 minutes ago, Amanuensis said:

So you want the Spies to win, HUH!?

This should be easy for me right??? Since I know my alignment??

Hael

Do we want to talk about how the xino kill still doesn't make sense given Nerdy's flip? We could've exe'd Nerdy for all they knew and the elims just wasted a whole juicy ML??

Except Hael posted a meme and so knew Nerdy wouldn't die. But. Maybe he was really really convinced of IC!xino and wanted him dead twice. OH! Perhaps the elims shot xino anyway because they were uncertain of what the Winzik vote powers could do to the exe? Again, this means they were confident about xino being IC. Possible that they thought this would end the game. 

[Amanuensis]

TBH idk what the deal with the Xino kill is anymore and idk if I care to figure it out. I'm just gonna vote redguys

I could see e!TUN seeing my Wiznik claim, memeing about it, then avoiding killing me. Little does he know I really am Wiznik and I didn't use my extra vote to make it seem like I wasn't, so I could live forever and the elims can never win, mwahahahahahahahahahaha