Devotary of Spontaneity Posted December 29, 2021 Posted December 29, 2021 If Teia is a captain, we can't yet afford to find out if she's evil by spending two cycles exing her. If she's evil, Illwei/Teia is looking more likely than Archer/Teia. If she's crew it's probably Archer/Walin or something, which is a lesser threat than Illwei/Teia. So I think Illwei is the lowest risk option. After a success in hunting down an alliance spy, Dzma had hoped that the same feeling of indifference she'd gotten from Alexandra would similarly lead to someone who wished the crew harm. But it hadn't, and she'd been unable to resist the psychic backlash from using her powers again, leaving her without any psychic abilities for an hour with a migraine. This happened frequently, and Dzma had long ago learned not to push it. Every successive use of psychics made it harder to resist the pain, and trying again after failing once significantly increased the possibility of further failure, and each time she succumbed it took longer for her to regain her psychic abilities. So now, even with the fate of the mission at stake, Dzma thought it better to try a mundane solution. While deliberating, as always she imagined herself in conversation with the operative. That wasn't fair to her, since the operative did not, could not know anything that Dzma didn't know, while much of Dzma's own knowledge remained obscured to the operative. The real one could surely find a solution to their predicament. The shallow copy in her head encouraged her to focus on the mission's success above all, but could not identify the reavers any more than Dzma could. And so Dzma went for the lowest risk, hedgiest possibility, one that should let them find the reavers in the end no matter what. Dzma instinctively balked at trusting anyone other than the operative, but she reassured her that a little trust was necessary until the crew was safe.
Walin he/him Posted December 29, 2021 Posted December 29, 2021 Hey guys, sorry about being inactive. Time got away from me. I’ll be more active next cycle if I haven’t been killed by then. It looks like Illwei’s got the most votes right now, though if we get this wrong then there’ll be 5 of us, and likely with 3 Reavers. On the other hand, if we get a tie and two executions, there will be 4 remaining, and maybe one Reaver will be dead (assuming at least one of either Archer or Illwei is a Reaver.) I’m going the tie route since 4-2 is better than 5-3. Archer
Devotary of Spontaneity Posted December 29, 2021 Posted December 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, Walin said: On the other hand, if we get a tie and two executions, there will be 4 remaining, and maybe one Reaver will be dead (assuming at least one of either Archer or Illwei is a Reaver.) I’m going the tie route since 4-2 is better than 5-3. Ties are random, not two people dying. 2
Araris Valerian he/him Posted December 29, 2021 Posted December 29, 2021 The turn should have ended by now, so I'm locking the thread.
Elandera she/her Posted December 29, 2021 Author Posted December 29, 2021 (edited) Cycle Five: Little Soul, Big World (write up maybe) Illwei has been executed! They were a Psychic with the Crew! Matrim's Dice was attacked, but survived! Vote Count: Illwei (3) - Matrim, Devotary, Archer Archer (3) - Illwei, Walin, Teia One more secret has been found! A total of two pieces of the Secret of Miranda have been uncovered! Player List: Spoiler Illwei Crew Psychic Ashbringer Alliance Companion @Matrim's Dice Lotus Crew Mercenary Szeth_Pancakes Crew Doctor @Devotary of Spontaneity The Unknown Aon Alliance Mercenary @Walin Dannnnnnnex Crew Companion @Teia @Steeldancer @Archer This turn will end Friday, December 31 at 12 p.m. (noon) PST. Edited December 29, 2021 by Elandera 2
Archer he/him Posted December 30, 2021 Posted December 30, 2021 Illwei why On a gut level, Walin coming in with minutes to go in the round to vote on me makes me suspicious. I was village reading them for not casting a vote in the round where they missed most of the action, but this one counteracts that. How do we know it's not a Walin-you team, Mat? Walin, what's your take on things now? Aside from that kind of a setup, it looks a lot like Mat really did confirm an elim with that block, so while I'm sure you were happy just to save yourself, thank you very much. :D. The only alternative explanation I can think of is there's another Shepherd or doctor in the mix.
Mat he/him Posted December 30, 2021 Posted December 30, 2021 18 minutes ago, Archer said: On a gut level, Walin coming in with minutes to go in the round to vote on me makes me suspicious. I was village reading them for not casting a vote in the round where they missed most of the action, but this one counteracts that. How do we know it's not a Walin-you team, Mat? Walin, what's your take on things now? I would say it was a hammer, but Illwei clearly wasn't elim, so... :P. I don't see how it specifically makes you suspicious because Walin clearly wouldn't be your teammate. Then again, it's just Teia and you so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Why isn't it Walin-me? Because I wouldn't attack me twice? Especially since in this scenario I'd have had no idea I would survive the first one. Staying on Teia since she's confirmed for me and even though Archer definitely won't survive another exe, Teia also very likely won't because I doubt the Reavers started with a double Captain.
Teia she/her Posted December 30, 2021 Posted December 30, 2021 6 hours ago, Matrim's Dice said: Shepherd’d Tiea again. FOR THE LAST TIME, I DIDN’T attack you! Even if I had attacked you the first time (which I didn’t), do you really think I would do it again?! Seriously, how dumb would that be? Someone is clearly trying to set me up.
Mat he/him Posted December 30, 2021 Posted December 30, 2021 18 minutes ago, Teia said: FOR THE LAST TIME, I DIDN’T attack you! Even if I had attacked you the first time (which I didn’t), do you really think I would do it again?! Seriously, how dumb would that be? Someone is clearly trying to set me up. I think the elims would want to kill the person that had just been cleared by virtue of the first attack attempt failing, yes. As for you being the person to actually submit the kill, that’s a mindgame. For me it was basically a 1/3 for you, Archer, and Illwei, and I went with you because I thought the elims would be more likely to have you submit the kill since that’s what would probably be assumed the least likely by everyone else.
Devotary of Spontaneity Posted December 30, 2021 Posted December 30, 2021 (edited) The eims wouldn't have attacked elim!Mat twice so he's village. Steel technically could be an elim if elim!Teia tried to kill Mat twice and was blocked both times, but Steel wouldn't have known that would happen when he told me he was using the pilot ability C3 if he was evil so I don't see him being evil either. There really shouldn't be a second village doctor since they'd be able to protect someone indefinitely and there definitely isn't a second village pilot because there aren't enough unknown roles for there to be another pilot and a fighter. So I don't see Mat surviving except by Mat blocking Teia's kill or a theoretical shepard Walin blocking someone else. Two shepards is improbable but it's more likely than two doctors or two pilots. Village!Shepard!Walin should mean an Archer/Teia team while Mat saving himself is Teia/Walin. Archer/Walin doesn't make sense in any scenario given Walin's vote last cycle. With Teia/Walin it's likely she's telling the truth about being the captain and Walin should die first. If it's Archer/Teia she's more likely to be lying about being a captain since I doubt there would be two to start. There could even be no captains on that team, with Teia being a doctor who protected Archer C1, saved him C3, and could save him again this cycle. I don't know what Archer would be in that case. Psychic maybe, given the roles targeted. Edit: That last part doesn't make much sense because doctor!Teia likely would have saved Archer C1, which means psychic!Archer would have to submit a kill instead of scanning someone. Holding off is unlikely. Finding shepard Mat possibly, but not doctor Szeth/mercenary TUA. Edited December 30, 2021 by Devotary of Spontaneity Re-evaluation
Teia she/her Posted December 31, 2021 Posted December 31, 2021 I’ll vote for Walin this round. I feel like they were kinda suspicious with the silence and then last minute voting. Maybe Reaver? Idk. I’m not being consistent at all with my votes... but oh well.
Archer he/him Posted December 31, 2021 Posted December 31, 2021 I can see the Reavers and Crew both having a Thug, so I see no reason to doubt Teia's claim. One of Teia or Mat is lying. I guess Mat is fairly confirmed good after being attacked twice, so that points to e!Teia. Devo and Steel are also good, so that leaves Walin as the only possibile teammate for them. If we exe Thug!Teia and there's an NK, we'll still have a 3:2 edge in player count, but I'm wary of the possibility of inactive or converted players allowing the elims to get back into it. Better to make it 4:1, especially if Mat survives the round so he'll have only one person to block instead of two options going forward. I hate not going after the confirmed evil player, but maybe it's a one man team and Mat is doing what Illwei did last game. This seems like the best move: Walin.
Elandera she/her Posted December 31, 2021 Author Posted December 31, 2021 40 minutes to get your votes and actions in!
Walin he/him Posted December 31, 2021 Posted December 31, 2021 Alright, hopping back in for the round. Looks like I'm on the chopping block, and now I'm regretting voting for Archer last round. I could have sworn that a tied vote meant a double execution, but alas, I read wrong. Has anyone claimed being the ones to find the pieces of the Secret of Miranda? If not, I'll be happy to come forward and claim which cycles I found pieces for, as well as roleclaim, to avoid getting killed. In the meantime, I'll vote for Tiea to stay alive for the round. Sorry if you're village, Tiea.
Mat he/him Posted December 31, 2021 Posted December 31, 2021 You know Even though my proposed elim team voted on the same player, in opposition to me voting one of them off an action result I think they've got a point Walin 1
Devotary of Spontaneity Posted December 31, 2021 Posted December 31, 2021 Walin. Low risk had been low probabilty, and now a fellow psychic was dead. "A lost chance to learn how to control your psychic abilities," the operative mourned. "Or a guarantee that my powers won't be uncovered and forcibly outed," Dzma responded to herself. "Opportunity or threat, they're gone now and I have to focus on keeping this ship safe." "At least Illwei's death was not in vain. We know who the reavers are now. It had to be Owl and Teia or Nonto and Teia, and with the way Owl and Teia are teaming up to kill Nonto it has to be them. I don't know which one would be better to vote for to ensure they die though, either of them might survive." "Not to worry my dear operative, I know who we have to kill. It's Nonto." "What? Why? Do you think Teia voted for Walin to induce Archer to follow, making everyone else think it had to be Teia and Archer and provoking retaliation votes on Archer at which point Teia would switch over to kill Archer? If you're going that deep into conspiracies you might as well reconsider Kaden and Steel as suspects." "Actually, it's because I have to protect my fellow reavers, and sadly most members of this crew refused to listen to reason." "You're a reaver? Since when?" "It was shortly after I boarded the Serenity. The captain was a reaver, and from viewing my records thought I could be persuaded to their way of thinking. They're not monsters like alliance and independents always claimed. They're people like any other, and have more reason to oppose the alliance than anyone. You gave me purpose, but they gave me direction for the first time in my life. For seven years I've known I would never be better than a tool or a weapon in someone else's hands. Even though I know you've been dead the whole time, I've dreamed of those hands being yours. I still do. But until you come back from the grave, the reavers are my best chance of doing something productive with my life, for doing some real good for the people of this galaxy the way you always wanted." "Why didn't you tell me? I could have helped you figure out whether the reavers were trustworthy, and if so helped you recruit crew members instead of slaughter them." "I know you could have. Even after all this time I'm reluctant to tell people my secrets, even you it seems. I think I also wanted to prove I could make decisions by myself, without you. To finally feel like I have agency in my life." "I'll have to think about this. We'll see how things go if you succeed in stopping all opposition. There's nowhere else for me to go, so I suppose I'll talk to you later." "Until next time, operative." 1
Elandera she/her Posted December 31, 2021 Author Posted December 31, 2021 (edited) Aftermath: To the Edge of the Galaxy We failed. We died. We got to the edge of the galaxy, to the place of nothin'. And that's what we became. Walin was executed! They were a Mechanic with the Crew. Steedancer was killed! They were a Pilot with the Crew. Archer was attacked, but survived! Vote Count: Walin (3) - Devotary, Teia, Archer Teia (1) - Matrim The Reavers have won! The Alliance has also won because the Crew failed to uncover the Secret of Miranda! Player List: Spoiler @Illwei Crew Psychic @Ashbringer Alliance Companion @Matrim's Dice Crew Reaver Shepherd @Lotus Crew Mercenary @Szeth_Pancakes Crew Doctor @Devotary of Spontaneity Reaver Fighter @The Unknown Aon Alliance Mercenary @Walin Crew Mechanic @Dannnex Crew Companion @Teia Crew Captain @Steeldancer Crew Pilot @Archer Reaver Captain Thanks to everyone who played, even if you didn't understand the setting! I'll talk about my thoughts on the rules later. Docs: Master Spreadsheet Dead Doc Reaver Doc Edited December 31, 2021 by Elandera 4
Szeth Pancakes he/they Posted December 31, 2021 Posted December 31, 2021 (edited) I was just reading the elim doc, and I got you good, @Archer dont understimate my stelth again Edited December 31, 2021 by Szeth_Pancakes
The Unknown Medallion he/him Posted December 31, 2021 Posted December 31, 2021 (edited) Szealth? Edited December 31, 2021 by The Unknown Aon 2
Szeth Pancakes he/they Posted December 31, 2021 Posted December 31, 2021 Just now, The Unknown Aon said: Szealth? Mmm yes all the szealth
Teia she/her Posted December 31, 2021 Posted December 31, 2021 Well........ Dang, I was so good about cautious at the beginning with PMs. That was kind of embarrassing how well people were able to manipulate me. Oof. 1
Mat he/him Posted December 31, 2021 Posted December 31, 2021 (edited) I do not deserve to win that game, but Archer and Devotary definitely do! I hope I can be evil teammates with you from the start some time, Archer. You’re insane. (Sorry Illwei) 8 minutes ago, Teia said: Well........ Dang, I was so good about cautious at the beginning with PMs. That was kind of embarrassing how well people were able to manipulate me. Oof. I remember something similar happening to me in my first game you’ll get there, don’t worry about it. But for what it’s worth, I did feel really bad during that last cycle… Edit: Quote Whenever I’m utterly stumped, I’m just gonna kill Mat in a conversion game at this rate and hope for the best @Kasimir xD yeah… just ask your coin first And I do realize in retrospect I MatTunneled o.0 I’ll need to watch that. For real. Edited December 31, 2021 by Matrim's Dice
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