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Reading through this thread was awesome. I'm not overly familiar with forum-based games but this is a really cool concept and I was bummed that I missed being able to sign up. I'd definitely be up for giving the next game a go though.

Because Shardblades cut in the Spiritual Realm, most assume that they're stored in the Spiritual Realm as well, rather than Shadesmar (the Cognitive Realm). However, to my (admittedly rather limited) knowledge, there isn't any WoB on the subject, so we'll have to wait on Words of Radiance to be sure. Edit: Typos/Clarification

Sure. I did a quick search on Theoryland and found it here. As to some of the colours that other Shards might be, I've always figured that the colour of Roshar's three moons might be significant. Green for Cultivation (it just makes sense), dark purple for Odium (it makes more sense than blue), and blue for Honour, seeing how its the only one left. I would assume that if this is right that Honour's blue must be different from Devotion's, but neither colour has really been described in enough detail to say how.

I think people might like this This basically confirms that shards in some sense have a colour.

I think that we have WoB somewhere that the Metallic Arts are at a much lower level (in terms of Investiture used) than most other magic systems, so I don't think that savants age slower (except maybe pewter savants, but in that case I think it would have more to do with what pewter does). I'm pretty sure that Feruchemy uses Investiture, its just never held inside the Feruchemist. I always figured it worked by converting an attribute into Investiture which is stored in metal, then converting that Investiture back into the attribute when it is taken from the metal. No matter how it works though, Feruchemy can't slow age unless its paired with Allomancy, as it is end neutral. I think the mechanism might be a little different from what you're describing though. I don't think that holding Investiture changes someone's personality, seeing how the Heralds ended the Oathpact knowing that they left humanity undefended and how the Returned could be (and were) selfish. I think it is more likely that holding large amounts of Investiture warps someone's Spiritual aspect, overriding any Cognitive or Physical limitations.

The hint I was talking about was from Chaos, about halfway down the page: If you still can't figure it out feel free to send me a PM.

Its not a problem with the site. You're just looking at the clue from the wrong direction. Don't worry though, you're definitely not the first person to have difficulties with this one. Scan this page of the http://www.17thshard.com/forum/topic/4357-next-one/page-4 thread for a good hint. Make sure you're using tabbed browsing.

Darn, I was annoyed that i managed to miss the episode to begin with... now that I know it was good its even worse. I suppose I'll have to wait for it to come out on Netflix now...

It's also the number of Shards of Adonalsium. (This is the probably reason the number is so important in the Cosmere.) There are other important numbers as well. For example, ten (the number of primary Shardworlds) crops up a lot, even outside of the Stormlight Archive. Completely misread your post, sorry. 1024 (the number of years it takes the Well to refill) is 16^2*4 (4 being the square root of 16)

I didn't even think of that one, and it should work given what we know about how investiture interferes with other investitures. It would probably burn away really quickly, but it could still be useful.

I'd buy that. (+upvote for awesome creativity) At some point in the first five Stormlight books we'll see and Adonalsium-spren (if we haven't already) and it will be important to the plot in some way.

I'm personally of the opinion that true "Harmonium" (or a 50/50 Aitum/Lerasium alloy) if it exists is book wouldn't do anything. When Vin takes up Preservation's power, she instinctively counters Ruin's power, because they were (near) equal opposites. Sazed, having both powers seems to have developed a rather strong policy of non-intervention, preferring to work through hemalurgically influenced servants. So with the two powers in balance within the same metal it likely would generate pointless contradictory effects upon burning, as the two powers would seek to counter each other. Having partial Lerasium/Atium alloys do things like create Seers seems fine though.

The weird face the Kaladin sees in the Highstorm?

I think a better one for zinc/brass, going by your idea of taking the original metal and adding a temporal aspect, might be speeding and slowing someone else's perception of time. That way it would remain true to the nature of the metals, and just change the effect to be more time-oriented. ​And for the whole aluminum/duralumin problem, the metals effects don't really fit together perfectly anyway, so I wouldn't worry about that. (I still don't really want to let go of the mental/temporal thing, since it was printed on the fancy table of metals that was printed a few years back. It's a lot easier to think up new metals your way though.) I just had kind of a weird idea, someone's probably thought of it before, but working under the rules for different metal/alloy pairs, shouldn't all Atium alloys be external? The normal pushing - pulling relationship doesn't seem to apply, (malatium already broke that) but as Atium is classified as an external metal, all 16 of its alloys should be as well. If that were true it would narrow down the possibilities a fair bit.

Being an aspiring writer, I've kind of wanted to post in this thread for a while, but having what I've dubbed Robert Jordanism (after his famous tendency to strongly dislike sharing rough drafts with anyone, even his wife) I've been putting it off for quite some time. I figure I'll give some feed back on some of the more recent ones and then post a couple of my own. @joshuarobinson: Depending on where you take that it could be very good, it sets up some backstory with just a few words and generates interest and tension at the same time. @Tal Specktor: The first one might be more interesting if I knew WWII better, but its not bad. After that It very quickly becomes more attention grabbing though, so it might be better to combine your first/second sentences. "It was a forest." So what? All this tells me is that there is a forest. It does make me wonder why or if the forest is special though. Once again, maybe you should combine the first two sentences. One note on the context: it seems that you switch perspectives right at the end, which you should probably avoid. @Edgedancer: The first one is good, it definitely makes the reader want to read on, but it could probably be worded better. I think you should elaborate on the "nothing" you mention. Is it some sort of primordial evil without apparent form? Is it some strange malevolent unseen force? Depending on how you word that you can make it a lot more dramatic and suspenseful (its hard to struggle with nothing; it generates a weird image). The second one is interesting, but it should either be split into two sentences, or phrased in a way that better highlights the strange absurdity of the crows, or contrasts their appearance with how much more beautiful the world seems. Okay, now onto some of mine: (feel free to be as constructively critical of these as you want; I'd like to get better at writing.) These three are all from the same story, one from the prologue, one from the first chapter of the main story, and one from the first chapter of the interlude story. Prologue Surveying the the grim scene before him, Kyrien Ontos stepped carefully over the mutilated body in the cave's entrance. With some context: Surveying the the grim scene before him, Kyrien Ontos stepped carefully over the mutilated body in the cave's entrance. He gave an involuntary shiver as he was assailed by the sudden cold, and the sharp, metallic smell of blood. The destruction in the rough-hewn room, the shattered rock, the scorch marks, and the blood sprayed against the walls bore all the hallmarks of an incredibly powerful animancer; far more powerful than they had expected. Chapter 1 Aonar knelt before a small stream, vigorously scrubbing at his hands, trying to clean them of blood, blood both real and imagined. With a little (not overly useful) context: Aonar knelt before a small stream, vigorously scrubbing at his hands, trying to clean them of blood, blood both real and imagined. He cursed himself under his breath for being stupid enough to think that he could cut through the forest and actually expect to reach Eli’ar more quickly. The road may have been longer, but at least there he would he been safe from the… things following him. Interlude 1 The prisoner walked in, straight-backed and with a cocky smile on his face, seemingly unaware that he was surrounded by some of the most dangerous men and women in the empire. With some context The prisoner walked in, straight-backed and with a cocky smile on his face, seemingly unaware that he was surrounded by some of the most dangerous men and women in the empire. His hood fell back, revealing the black Markings of a full animancer. Harewin Comeux, High Councillor of Eli’ar, shuddered. Animancers, the soul-tearers, the night-bringers, the heralds of unending winter. They were things of legend; children’s fables… and ordinary people given terrible, uncontrollable power.

I've always read that line about Atium alloys giving mental and temporal effects as the alloys giving either mental or temporal effects, not both. There's a good chance I'm interpreting it completely wrong, but it makes more sense to me, and keeps Atium alloys from becoming too broken/repetitive. The way I see it the addition of Atium inverts or corrupts some aspect of the metal. I think exactly what changes depends on the base metal group. Physical metals become Cognitive, and Enhancement metals become Temporal, or vice versa. Metals that are already Cognitive or Temporal become warped or twisted in some way. This way (Atium)Electrum would show either your own, or someone else's possible future. Minor Steelhunt Spoilers: . Also I your ideas on Iron/Steel and Tin, Sevi, they seem to fit fairly well as Temporal/Cognitive versions of the original metals. Though I do think the second idea with making things move more quickly/slowly through relative time would probably fit better as Cadmium/Bendalloy.

That quote is pretty ambiguous as to whether or not it was actually a springrail accident, but even if there isn't some super obvious conspiracy, there is the fact that chalklings wind the springrails... Maybe the one that Joel's father was on was very conveniently wound just a little too tight that day? The whole bit about Joel's father's death seemed fairly suspisious to me as well, but I was clued in more so by how ambiguous the quote Satsuoni gave was.

I think it depends more on how much of a Feruchemical charge there is in the metal, since its an Invested object. I think that there's a point where there is so much Investiture in the metal that it can't be cut by a Shardblade. Up until that point though, the metal would probably just be cut and and the attribute redistibuted amoung the pieces it was cut into.

There isn't really a formal theory, the idea pretty accepted though because of how well it It fits. The idea basically revolves around how much Darkness knows, (about Surgebinding, Desolations, etc) and how he seems to act in a perfect perversion of his divine attributes. (ie. the confidence of one how doesn't care in the slightest about anything; the justice of always following the exact letter of the law and never its spirit.) With the recent near confimation that Shallash is Baxil's MIstress, and how she seems to have become the near opposite of her divine attributes, the Darkness/Nalan connection just makes sense. Yeesh, I type slow. I was ninja'd. Twice.

I actually completely missed him in Mistborn, and I dismissed him as having a reused name in Elantris, I didn't start to catch on until I noticed how similar he was in WoK and Warbreaker.

If Lightweaving in SA works anything like how it seems to work in Liar I'm not sure if it even needs a combination power. Having things constantly change around you and never knowing what is real and what is illusion? That in itself seems pretty darn useful in a fight to me. Of couse I can't remember anything about how Shallan took in Stromlight off the top of my head, so whether or not the Lightweavers were more of a combat order or a sort of PR/support order is kind moot anyway, but they could very easily hold their own in a battle.

The thing at the top said to let people know I exist... so erm, yeah. Here I am. Allllrighty then, on to an intro of sorts: I've been a fan of Mr. Sanderson's books for around three years now, ever since my surprisingly smart E-reader recommended me both Mistborn and The Way of Kings (and Name of the Wind too). After reading Elantris and Warbreaker, I Googled Hoid since I was wondering why he kept showing up everywhere, which lead me to the Coppermind, which lead me here. I've been lurking around here for ages, trying to figure out some of the Cosmere stuff, and I finally feel like I get enough of it to maybe join in some of the discussions. So... see you people around I guess.