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I’m sorry I haven’t been very active. I’ll try to post more and vote this cycle. Right now, I really want to hear from Navor and Snipe about why they voted for Raze when he was being more helpful than pretty much anyone else and when another person had either already voted for him or ‘voted’ for him in bold. I want to know why they contributed to a tie between Raze and Jain where the result would have been left to a coin toss if no one had come in to change it. Regarding the bold ‘votes’, I suppose it is a good way to catch someone’s eye so they can find where it says why they are under suspicion, but I don’t know that they actually encourage people to post if they are just being inactive. Then again, I’m now sure that actual votes are all that effective in that either. Inactives probably don’t usually see the votes until they were going to post anyway. And the bolded votes don’t even have the advantage of being an actual threat that can be accidentally left in if inactives take too long to post (if that’s even an advantage). Since I don’t have enough rations to change my vote, and I don’t know for sure who I want to vote for until more people post, I’ll hold off for now. Hopefully I’ll remember to place a vote later. I don’t have anything more to say right now, but here’s a vote tally. Luce (1): Araris Unsurprisingly, there’s not much there yet. Also, here’s a bold ‘vote’ tally Aoran: Raze Navor: Kasir Snipe: Kasir Wilim: Tryel, Ash Joseph: Kasir Kasir has bolded the names of a quarter of the people left in the game.

There’s not really much to discuss yet. There’s not enough to go on to vote for anyone, and everyone who hasn’t posted yet has been called out already (if you count the ‘vote’ on Ryfe that wasn’t an official unofficial one). I don’t have time for RP right now, but I’ll try to promote some discussion. One thing we could discuss is the Messaging system. Obviously, we don’t want to let it distract us from votes or suspicious behavior, but discussing it could give us more to go on than everyone just placing activity-check ‘votes’. Based on how it works, I think messages are way more useful for the Convicts than for us. We don’t have a pair of good people who know who each other are who might want to use it, and even the person with the Glowsap can’t be sure of the people they track until the Gang Leader is dead. I don’t think testing people out in messages is very effective. Our best use of them might be to try to intercept them and hope to catch some of the Convicts’ communications. Even though each person would only be able to do that once every other cycle if they never change their votes, there would be a decent chance of catching the Convicts’ Messages if everyone except for the people with useful items did it. Here’s the current vote tally, so we can stay up to date Navor (1): Wern, Araris Joseph (1): Wilim And here’s the current ‘vote’ tally, if anyone cares to keep track Raze: Snipe Jain: Joseph, Araris Wilim: Kasir Luce: Tryel Araris: Wern Ryfe: Wern

I’m signing up as Luce. She lived on a homestead until an accident caused the Shades to kill everyone else on it. Now she stays alive however she can. Lately, she’s been working at a nearby homestead. The familiar work is comforting, although spending too much time away from good silver protection makes her uneasy. I was going to sign up sooner, but I wanted to read Shadows for Silence first.

I think I'll have enough time to not go inactive, so I guess I'll sign up. You did say you wanted at least twenty. Sorry I'm so close to the deadline. Again. I'll be Lucky, the best gambler in Elendel.

I'm really sorry that I've been inactive and never got around to posting last cycle. Today was supposed to be the day that I had to catch up on the game, but I suddenly had other things I had to do. I don't really have a defense for myself since the accusation is mostly that I haven't been verified or done much that was helpful. So I'll just move on to my current thoughts. I think Gamma's plan sounds good. I'll be sure to remember to send him something. We need to figure out who to vote for now. The fact that most of the current suspects are the less active players is probably hard on discussion right now. I'm not sure who I suspect, other than crossing the verified players off my list. We might want to look for holes in message-sending for suspects. Also, looking back at what Rulit said could be useful. Tahrin, would you tell us exactly which days you sent messages to Rulit and which days he sent them to you so that we can get a better idea of how a henchman was using them and where holes in message-sending might be? Vote Tally: Lyce (1): Tunnib Gart (3): Wurum, Aladdin Kaladen (1): Gamin Quismet (2): Serji Faisan (1) Naihar (1)

I'm sorry I haven't been very active. Now that I've sort of caught up, it looks like I missed quite a bit. On top of yesterday's henchman lynch, there's been the revelation of a Windrunner, a Skybreaker confession, and a list of all the Squires. I'll vote Metam now, since he confessed. I haven't sorted through everything enough yet to add anything else yet. I'll try to be more active, but given how busy I am and how my computer is acting, I can't make any guarantees. Are we still going to do that bombard Wurum with messages plan for in case the Truthwatcher decides to give him a code so that a Reverse Lashing is less likely to be effective?

Sorry I didn’t post earlier. I’ve been busy. I meant to post when I was online yesterday, but I got pulled away. Also, I didn’t want to post when I hadn’t read the thread and had nothing to add. I like Serji’s system to add to messages, but that’s been discussed enough in the thread already. The game’s probably not going to last long enough to really feel people out with PMs, unless we get lucky with an early Skybreaker death. If there’s ways to sabotage eliminator attempts to communicate, or aid Windrunner attempts, those might be good to discuss, but since it’s so late in the cycle and messages have already been discussed a lot, it might be best to let them rest for a bit. (I’m not doing a very good job of avoiding the distraction of message discussion, am I?) I think activity checking is becoming a distraction too. It’s an easy place for eliminators to hide. They can pretend to be voicing suspicions when they’re just following an established trend and going for easy targets. Encouraging activity is important, but Metam had the right idea when he moved on from it give his thoughts about what had happened in the thread (and I’m not saying that just because he was retracting a vote for me). This late in the cycle, voting for inactives isn’t likely to add to the discussion. There have only been a few suspicions voiced that don’t only have to do with inactivity. Here’s my thoughts on them. I think Serji’s defense is good enough. I don’t think Quismet is as suspicious as some of you are making her out to be. If a relatively quick response to an activity-check vote is suspicious, what are those votes for? An eliminator might be quicker to respond, but that depends entirely on the person and what they are currently busy with. And since Wurum seemed to be voting for her then because he thought she might respond quickly, I don’t really get everyone’s response. As for my personal suspicions, I haven’t had much time to form them. Hopefully I’ll be able to think things through more before the cycle ends. I would like to hear from some of the people who have posted but didn't say much though.

You did say you wanted at least 18 players, so.... Lyce is a Worldsinger from far to the west. She will tell you all about the places she's been, whether you want to hear it or not. She hadn't expected to find much in a small town like Telmont, but recent rumors have enticed her to stay. The emergence of new Radiants is bound to make a great new story to tell.

Cat rifled through a few more of the papers she had lying on the table in front of her. This politicking business had never had any draw for her. Ever since it had become clear that her life was at risk if she didn't participate, however, she had been doing as much figuring as she could to find the skaa. A few lines of her notes made her grimace, until she saw the doodles in the margins. Those made her grin. She took out a fresh piece of paper and started drawing a more detailed picture of Tris to push the foreboding feeling from the pit of her stomach. The tail, sleek and dark as ash. An ear with that tuft of fur. Her mind wandered to other, more pleasant things. When this was all done, she would get away from the city. Flee responsibility. But first, she had to find those skaa. It wasn't until she was almost done that she noticed what she was really drawing. The picture was wrong. Instead of eyes, she had drawn two large spikes, like those the Inquisitors had. The picture stared at her with Tris's face, but those dull eyes. A shadow moved at the edge of Cat’s vision. She swiveled her head around--anything to break contact with the picture. Suddenly, something soft hit her cheek. She turned to find Tris in the flesh, sitting on her lap, eyes perfectly normal and staring up at her. Cat heaved a sigh of relief and hugged Tris in her arms until she leapt up onto the table. It was only a few seconds before the papers were a scattered mess, but Cat didn't care. They weren't helping anyway. "It won't be long now," she whispered to Tris. "We've almost found them all. Then we can leave all this behind. All the danger and lies. And, can you believe what some people were talking about earlier? Deals with skaa! What is the world coming to? But soon we’ll be done and safe. Soon." --- A bunch of thoughts have been flying around my head since you posted, Meta. One is annoyance that someone might have made some kind of deal with the skaa. Another is puzzlement that the best way to punish someone for making deals with the skaa is to make a deal with the skaa…. And then I’m wondering if you’re even right about betrayal. I don’t have enough information to say for sure either way, but after thinking about it, and at the risk of possibly defending someone I shouldn't, there are two things I want to address. First, I don’t think betrayal is the only explanation for the attack on Fain. Honestly, my first thought when I learned that Fain had been attacked was that Asyr must have hit someone who the skaa thought was inactive enough to not come forward if he was hit, especially since Fain had said that he would be gone from the forums for two days and appeared mostly inactive before that. Obviously, if Asyr was the one who hit Fain, then he couldn't have hit Mailu (so what Kas learned was a lie the skaa put in), and that’s something he would have wanted to hide. If it was Asyr who hit Fain, then Fain is exactly who I would have expected him to hit to hide the fact that he didn't hit Mailu (if he hit anyone). Second, I do not understand how the skaa actions during Night 5 were "incredibly accurate". They attacked the person who was the voice of the chain (an obvious target for them) when a lurcher was protecting him with the skaa kill (not exactly an "accurate" time), and a coinshot attacked a lurcher, leaving the lurcher free to still protect someone the next night (and I explained above why he might have seemed a good target independent of his metal). If the skaa had access to the information that Kaldin did, why did they not kill you to cripple noble communications? Or kill a lurcher completely to prevent future protection? Or power through a lurcher's protection with both the skaa kill and coinshot hit? Or why not get to the heart of it and kill the Genie (if you told Kaldin who that was)? Injuring Fain is hardly what I’d call a top priority for the skaa or an incredibly accurate shot.

Did you soothe her or riot her? If you rioted her, then that explains everything that happened with the vote (Kas's earlier Case 2 without a soother). But that would mean either a fourth rioter or that you're a Mistborn, and it still raises the question of why you interfered with the vote in the first place. If you soothed her, then Day 1's vote could be explained by QC interfering. I'd thought that she had decided not to use her rioting, but she wasn't as clear about it as I remembered so it's possible, and we can't find out quickly at this point. But if you soothed Racine, why? Also, if what I learned was put in the pool, then either Kas has come across it before or the info about Mailu being hit by a coinshot was in the pool. If the first, then why hasn't Kas mentioned it? If the second, then who added the info about Mailu being hit and why? Anyway, I'll add a vote for Asyr since it seems clear that he's a skaa.

I think that this point in the game is a very good time for us all to combine the informant information we have contributed and received. I’ll start with mine. I will leave out a few details because that way skaa can’t just say they received a piece of information that they saw in the thread. (And I don’t really want to just tell everyone my metal or other info like that straight out.) Night 1: I put in my House (Elariel) and asked about Hyrun and Racine. -I learned that Hyrun was a Smoker. -I learned that Racine had targeted Finch Fain with her metal. Night 2: *Since I was House Lady this night, I won’t give the details of what I did at this time. There’s no need to make it easier for the Skaa to figure out who has what House Powers. Night 3: I put in my Metal and asked about Hyrun and Asyr. -I learned that Mailu and Hyrun were in the same house. (Normally I would conceal the identity of Hyrun’s housemate, but the fact that it was Mailu is relevant later.) -I learned that Asyr was a Coinshot. Night 4: I put in my Metal Action target for a previous night and asked about Hyrun and Ashette. -I learned that Hyrun and Mailu were in a small house. -I learned that Ashette gave a truth to the informant on Night X about Y. (X and Y being hidden unless it becomes relevant later) Night 5: I put in my Metal Action target for a different previous night and asked about Hyrun and Mailu. -I learned that Hyrun used his metal on himself and Mailu on Night 1. -I learned that Mailu used a metal action on Racine on the first Day. Combining this information with everyone else’s should give us clues as to who hasn’t gone to the informant when and who has made suspicious actions. I have one thing to start off with. I’ve asked about Hyrun 4 times. He said that he has only gone to the informant once, and the information that I have learned about him matches that. On the first night, I learned what he claimed he put in. On subsequent nights, I learned things that must have either been GM facts or facts put in by someone else. In my mind, the most reasonable explanation is that the things I learned about him on Nights 3 and 4 were facts about both Mailu and Hyrun that were put in by Mailu. (And the fact from Night 5 was probably a GM fact.) This brings me to Night 5. The fact that I learned about Mailu is very suspicious. There are three possibilities: 1. This is true and was added to the information pool. -This is unlikely since Mailu should know it is suspicious and add something else. 2. This is a lie. -If other people have learned this, then it is probably in the information pool. If it is in the pool, then it is more likely a lie than a truth. However, if anyone had learned this yet, then I would have expected them to come forward and tell it since it helps explain the Day 1 voting shenanigans. If no one else has learned this, but has been investigating Mailu, then that might indicate that the Loyal Terrisman is at work spreading lies, and the pool of information about him is large. Otherwise, the last possibility comes into play. 3. This is a GM fact. -Since I had only learned two facts about Mailu before, that would mean that Mailu has put no more than two facts into the pool and beg the question of what has he been doing the other 3 nights. He isn’t a House Lord, so that would mean he forgot, did the Skaa kill, spread lies, or was wounded and chose to use his metal instead. At this point, I would like to ask Mailu to tell us whether we should believe what I learned about him on Night 5. I would also like anyone else who has asked about Mailu to tell us what they have learned. Since Kassel apparently learned something different about Mailu than I ever did last night, then perhaps he could shed some light on this. Here’s the question I have right now: Is Mailu being set up, perhaps by a House Lord with the Loyal Terrisman, or is he Skaa?

Oops. It's fixed now. I didn't realize that, Kas. It would have been nice if that was more clear sooner. It doesn't really change what I'm thinking about Jain though.

If that is the only evidence that Jain is a Smoker, then it is also possible that he is a Mistborn who used Copper the first day, but that makes less sense. I agree that no lynch is a bad idea at this point, and Jain is one of the people I trust less this game, and I don't want him to use Weaponry, so I'll vote for him. Updated tally: Asyr (1): Hadrian, Alden Mailu (1): Mesist Finch (0): Fien Hyrun (0): Kassel Jae (1): Fien Ashette (2): Jain, (TelZaan) Jain (3): Alden, Kassel, Cat

I've been busy, but I should be less busy starting now. My notes are in a rather poor state though, so I'm not sure what to do this cycle. I'll start with a vote tally: Edit: I put an updated tally below. There's less than an hour left, and this looks like early in the day. It seems like no one has strong suspicions, and I'm not sure what to make of anything either. If it's true that Jain has the Kandra, then this is basically letting Ash get killed based on his whims, especially if he actually is a smoker and so can't be soothed. At this point, the emotional allomancers (and possibly Mistborn) have all of the power, but I don't think either of the emotional allomancers we know about is skaa, so leaving things like this won't give us much good information. But I don't think I'm in the best position to change things.

The evidence I've seen against Wandrin is pretty compelling. I think we need to lynch him to find out his alliance. It will be useful information even if he turns out to not be skaa. But I will be very surprised if he is not skaa. Regarding the lack of soothing during the last day, maybe they tried to soothe a smoker. Or they're just trying to confuse us. Kas, if you're going to assume that no lesser houses have kandra, you would also have to assume that Tuy doesn't have one because that is a lesser house plus Asyr and Asyr was the only change in houses. I don't think that is a good assumption because Wyrm already said a lesser house could have one. However, I do suspect that Seeris has the kandra, partly because why else would Jain be house lord when he's been away so much? Alden, I don't think it's true that we'd know by now if the skaa had a coinshot given steel was poisoned one night and there's only been three nights so far. I think Sylinia dying must mean that they either had access to steel at least one night or used a house power. I wonder why they would leave Meta alone though if they had access to steel. He said he was injured on day two, and he should be healed after last night, so they missed their opportunity there. Maybe they thought Sylinia was a bigger threat for some reason and knew that she was a Thug, or they thought a lurcher was more likely to be on Meta. Otherwise it must have been a case of a house power. Of course, if it was Blanket Soothing, it might have just been bad luck on the part of a noble house lord. I think I'm rambling now.... Also, did Racine ever tell you what the second piece of informant information she had was? I don't think you ever told us. If you know what it was, then that could be a good thing to check against our docs too. Vote tally: Jae (1): Ren Jain (1): Asyr, Jain Wandrin (5): Hadrian, Mesist, Kassel, Jain, Cat Ashette (1): Fien Finch (1): Mailu Note: Jain didn't actually use green to retract his vote for himself. Also, there might be a Kandra with his vote.

I can't tell if Tonul's actions are more consistent with a noble who has used some faulty reasoning or a skaa who is acting too suspicious. It doesn't look like my vote's going to make any difference at this point, so I just won't vote. Wandrin, I'm sorry about calling you out for not posting. I'd much rather you read the thread without posting than not read it at all. I and others are worried about inactivity, which has happened in the past to the detriment of their allies, and we are checking for what we remember past inactives doing (like never getting on or ignoring the thread). You're right that we're going about it the wrong way. So, sorry again. As a heads-up, I'm going to be out of town for the next week. I'll be able to get on, but not much and only on my phone.

Mesist, I think you are misunderstanding what Tonul said. The thing he said he revealed to the informants was about another person, not himself, so presumably the information you received about him was from the GM (not what Tonul put in) because there was no information about Tonul in the pool. Apparently, the Alden learned what he did about Jain because Tonul put it in the pool (I'm not claiming that this is true, just that this is what Tonul implied). Tonul didn't put in information that directly confirmed that he was a rioter (although it did happen to help lead us to that conclusion). He didn't reveal that he had done something during the day. He left himself open for that to be found out. The strange thing that I would ask Tonul about is why he didn't put any information about himself in the pool if he had information he wanted hidden. It left him open so that any fact from the GM could be revealed, and I believe two of the few possible facts about him at that point would have revealed him as an emotional allomancer. Why not just put in his house if he didn't want others to learn his metal? Here's the most recent vote tally: Cat (2): Tonul, Ashette Wandrin (2): Ren, Fien Tonul (2): Mesist, Jae Ashette (2): Hadrian, Alden It's a four-way tie at two votes each! We really need to change this before the cycle ends. I think I'm going to get some sleep before I decide how it should be changed. Also, these people haven't posted yet: Hyrun Finch Wandrin Sylinia Mailu Hyrun and Mailu have already notified us that they would be absent, but the others have been on. In particular, Wandrin seems to be on a lot but has been noticeably absent from the discussions.

What does that have to do with lynching me? Is there someone you are reasonably sure is skaa? What makes you so sure, and who are they? Why would there be a choice between lynching a skaa and keeping a house power? Is that because you think a skaa has a house power? Then lynching them would give the power to the house of someone who voted for them. If you have important information, then you should share at least the basics of it with us, because otherwise we have no reason to trust you or the conclusions you draw. It's best to keep certain information out of the hands of skaa, but trusting someone blindly is a bad idea.

While I was the last person to vote for Racine, I was also the one who produced the last bit of evidence against her. If I was trying to dismiss suspicion of myself by voting for her, then why did I produce that evidence earlier when It wasn't clear that she would be lynched, when that evidence was most likely to lead to the lynching of either me or her? While I think that looking at who voted for Racine at the last minute could help us find someone who was blending in, there were many last minute votes for her, and looking at any of them without also considering the context of what the voters had said previously won't help. Also, just as many people didn't vote at all as voted on Day 2. I think the no-votes would be an easier place for skaa to hide in this case. (I agree that we need more discussion going though.) I'll speculate a bit on this. I think Racine was hoping that Leftinch wouldn't speak up or that everyone would think he was skaa and lying if he did. She probably thought that if she admitted to making a PM with him then that would show that at least two of the pieces of information from the informants were true, when she could only have given he informants one, which would have meant the third was true as well. Admitting to making the PM would have been more incriminating for her than not, no matter what Leftinch said. I'm a bit curious as to what your exonerating evidence for me is, although if it's sensitive information then it's probably best not to tell. As for your discussion of votes, does adding together the number of votes given and the number received for each person really indicate much other than activity over the course of the past two days? They seem like they could compound one another, particularly during Day 1 if people vote back at each other or vote in a chain. Also, one day of suspicion on a person, whether it is well-founded or not, can blow these numbers our of proportion. I'd like an explanation for why I need to be lynched. What evidence do you have against me that has you convinced that I'm skaa? Or is there another reason to go after me?

Oops, I forgot about that There's so many rules to keep track of. I don't know how Wyrm's not going crazy running it all. Checking within your own house is a good idea.

I think I'm going to go with green means "good job, you got rid of one of the rebellion scum" and red means "you have failed the nobles" since lynches are the only deaths that reveal loyalties Does anyone think it would be a good idea to try to coordinate informant information? What happened today, with three different people happening to ask about a skaa and getting different information, was a fluke, but if we keep 2-3 people continuously asking about each of the most suspicious people and if people ask about the same people they have already asked about, then we might find out when people don't submit truths and might be using the skaa kill instead. Also, since the skaa definitely had a place in Aonar's doc, it might be a good idea for him to tell us what they could have learned from it. It could also help us find out what the skaa did the first night if we know when Racine first mentioned the truths that she supposedly learned and when the clarification about "Night 1" came in. Whoever has the Kandra probably already thought about this, but Racine's body is an excellent opportunity for us to learn skaa plans. I hope the skaa don't kill me tonight.

Wouldn't there be no information about Racine in the pool (which would necessitate facts from the GM) if she gave a lie about someone else, not just if she made the skaa kill? It's possible that the skaa spread lies around instead of covering themselves with truths. I was hoping to convince Fain to speak when it seemed like he was on. Asyr posted shortly before I did, and I was in too much of a hurry to really look at his post, so the doubling was an accident. In addition, I had every intention of switching my vote from Finch Fain to Racine later if he didn't post, but I didn't want to mention that for in case he actually read my post and figured there wasn't a point in speaking. Now, I'm worried that this vote for Racine is a bandwagon, which just makes it look even more like she's being set up (in which case, I'll probably be the next to go).

Depending on whether Racine told you before or after Ren mentioned what he received from the Informants, she could have just been giving information that a different skaa found out. They might have had one skaa get information for in case someone had to use it while others did other things (skaa kill, house power if there is a House Lord among them, spread lies). It's also possible that you're conspiring with her. I don't have much of a defense beyond what I've already provided. I told what information I put in and most of what I got out. If anyone asked about me, they could verify that what they got out matches what I put in. Apparently no one did though. Unfortunately, Joe is not going to be on to verify the information that I received about him so we're left with my word against Racine's or Leftinch's, depending on what Leftinch would say about the information I received. Leftinch, to all appearances, is either inactive in this game or is remaining silent to sow confusion. If he isn't skaa, then he at least is helping them more than he is us. I am going to vote for Finch Fain in hopes that seeing his name in red encourages him to reply. If he really is inactive, then we don't lose much if we kill him. I still am not disregarding the possibility that what I received was a lie to set up Racine. The other thing that I might have possibly been able to use as a defense is probably useless to say now, but I don't know how I would have been able to use it anyway. That is that when I received the information about Racine, it just said who she used her metal on and not when she used it. I asked Wyrm whether the information was supposed to refer to Night 1, partly because that sort of information needs a time on it on future nights, partly to see if it referred to Day 1. He told me that the information was supposed to say that it was on Night 1 and that he had said that for the others (I guess there was another one where he didn't say Night 1 though), and he edited the original to include the extra information. I suspect the fact that it is supposed to say Night 1 has more to do with keeping a standard format for the same type of information so that we can't tell if something is from the GM or from a player than about how a player phrased some information. Edit: And I'd like to mention that Hadrian is right that killing me might just be playing into the skaa's hands. It just makes it easier for them to get or destroy my house power.

I don't have much time now, but a few things: For what it's worth, the other person I asked about was Joe, and I learned his Metal. I don't want to reveal what it is without his permission though. The information that I put in was my house, which you all know now anyways. If anyone asked about me, then I assume that is what the would have learned about me. I don't have any proof beyond that. I suppose if you all lynch me, then you'll at least know I'm telling the truth. I don't know why the others asked about Racine. For me, it was more or less a random choice of someone I thought wasn't much in the public eye. I guess I was wrong about putting her in that list. I still want to hear from QuiteLeftInch whether a PM conversation was started between him and Racine. QuiteLeftInch, please clarify this. I know that the information I got was actually from the Informants, but I am not disregarding the possibility that it was a lie, and that is why I'm not voting for Racine now.

I was going to try to write an RP post, but nothing’s been coming and I figure I should mention this before I go to bed. I know this might be hard to believe (really, another one?), but I also went to the Informant and asked for information about Racine. The information I received was not one of the two things that have already been mentioned (that she is Skaa or that she is a Tineye). What I learned is that she used her Metal on QuiteLeftInch. It is possible that this is a second lie that was spread about her. However, that would mean that the Skaa used two of their night actions to spread lies specifically about Racine without knowing how many people would ask about her, where one of those lies is a bit odd of a lie to tell. I think it is more likely that all three of the pieces of information we have learned about her are true. I would like QuiteLeftInch to tell us whether the information I learned is true so that we know if those of us who asked about Racine received two lies and a truth or three truths. Also, I am curious as to why Tonul gave the information that he received about Racine instead of asking her to tell us what information she gave first so that we could try to catch her in a lie.