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Of course, you also have to hit the Fullborn. Which is hard given the massive speed + tin and zinc to avoid ambushes. Electrum and time bubbles wouldn’t hurt either. But between electrocution, taking metals, aluminum, and outright overwhelming force, even Fullborn shouldn’t get cocky

You are correct. I am talking about a spike made of tin. As for the human senses part, I think the problem has more to do with what’s permanently yours. Everything Hemalurgic takes is a natural ability coded on your soul. Which means you should still be able to steal a platypus’s electric field sense if you wanted (an innate ability). But taking Allomancy would be trickier because the power “remembers” that it really belongs to Preservation. I don’t quite know where Feruchemy falls, since the Investiture still belongs to the Feruchemist. But the analogy would be that if your soul is a power cord carrying electricity (attributes) from the Spiritual Realm, then Feruchemy is filling a new battery and using that. Honestly, I don’t think having a Seeker ability would do the trick. The better bet would be to find a Twinborn who can use A-Bronze and F-Tin. If you spike them while they are tapping, then the power should be filtered to more closely resemble a proper sense.

We know Feruchemical Tin can store Allomantic senses like Bronze NewbSombrero Can Feruchemical tin store Allomantically granted senses like bronze sense? Brandon Sanderson Possible. General Signed Books 2018 (Feb. 8, 2018) Theoretically, Hemalurgic tin should store all the same things as F-Tin. So if you had proper Intent, could you spike the bronze sense out of an Allomancer burning bronze? If you did, would the recipient of that spike have permanently renewing bronze sense, much like regular kandra blessings (including Tin), or would it have a limited duration because the bronze wasn’t a natural sense?

This would be possible for Inquisitors made from Mistborn, because they would have double zinc and brass. This would cover for not having duralumin. However, they could only break the clouds of Misting inquisitors, who have single copper, and I doubt they’d have enough power to take control then. In other words, a Mistborn inquisitor only takes control when their fellow inquisitor is off guard It also wouldn’t be a very good idea for an inquisitor to do this under TLR. Once he felt control was gone, he’d know to look for more powerful Soothing and Rioting. It wouldn’t take long to start investigating Inquisitors. Afterwards, there may have been a short period of time where Mistborn inquisitors took control, but then Ruin ran the whole show and it didn’t matter anymore.

I was wondering for a bit about methods to purify a Shard of intent, most likely by dividing it into small peices with a magic system and putting them back again. Extremely difficult, but theoretically possible. Just in case, spoiler here The important part is that Endowment can take herself apart via Breaths. Not to the point that it would ever naturally happen via people being born, but it can happen, especially if Endowment is signing on. So my idea is this Gather up Endowment’s entire power into Breath and put them in tons of people, who would get 10+ Heightenings. Have them dunk those Breaths into an object with some Command. You might need to rely on the Eighth Heighening to keep the train going, but if that doesn’t work, you just give the Breaths to the new object like you might a person (presumably you can) Now, i have three questions about this setup. 1. Can you turn an Awakened object into a Shard? I assume yes, though it probably has to be sentient like Nightblood is. 2. If yes to 1, can Endowment do this without the middlemen for something like Nightblood? (regular Awakened objects likely won’t do) 3. Would the Command given have any effect on the new Shard’s Intent? I would guess yes and no. I would suggest that the Commands might form a sub-intent or other psychological quirk, but the Intent would still include Endowment. Best case scenario is you get some Endowment-hybrid like Harmony is. However, you might still be able to use other Cosmere magic systems like Forgery to pull the trick instead. If all of this is possible, I nominate a toilet to become Endowment. It’s Command is “Clean things”.

1. I don’t see why a kandra’s awareness of their shapechanging would be problematic. I could easily see a case where a kandra uses a specific body as a “default” for so long that they accept it as real. That being said, actively changing shape could mess up the process because they would rearrange their muscles and nerves, providing new sensation 2. Seeing these comments, I think I made one particular mistake regarding healing. I think the cognitive aspect revolves more around blocking access to certain injuries than outright adding new thing. Similarly, the WoB I used was more about duplicating an ability, not matter. I guess you could use Forgery or even aluminum tricks to fix the spirit. But at that point, the hack becomes far less practical. 3. I’m not sure I agree with your assessment of healing. While it’s true in most cases, there must be some level of Investiture to mass conversion. If you can justify mass conversion under the Spiritual and/or Congitive aspect to accept metal, than there’s no reason you couldn’t grow metal 4. Bendalloy is actually a really good idea for Kandras

The more I think about it, the more I realize Cosmere healing and kandras are a match made in heaven. The former can be shaped to at least some extent by how one perceives themself. The latter are far more inclined than any human to think of helpful objects as their body and store the results.They even call their artificial bones True Bodies. And that makes them very useful with the right setup Take Gold compounding, for instance. Spike a kandra with those abilities, then give them a True Body made of gold. Once they get used to it, they can then duplicate any material used in that True Body. On Scadrial, they could generate infinite Allomantic metals, even the rare ones. If they had Mistborn powers on top of that, then infinite duralumin. After all, they don’t get hurt because of healing and can easily replenish with duralumin time bubble. On top of that, a Kandra Fullborn is probably the most powerful non-Shard entity in the Cosmere. Such a being could have all of their Feruchemical attributes up to x100 forever, including whatever other magic systems they find. On top of that, it should also be possible to duplicate Invested objects. Even a human could theoretically do that. HazelCharm47 Let's say we have a hypothetical situation with Miles Hundredlives. In this scenario, he is wearing a gold metalmind filled to the brim with stored healing power. He is then spiked with a cadmium spike and loses his gold allomancy. Now, if I recall from various WoBs, he would be able to heal using the gold metalmind and regain his gold allomancy. I could be misremembering and he cannot heal it, but I believe he would be able to since it is part of his Identity. However, one question I have never seen the answer to is this: what happens to the ability in the spike? Is the allomantic ability still contained in the spike, leading to a duplicate? Or is the spike's ability lost? Or maybe I have this whole thing wrong and Miles could never have regained the ability in the first place. If the ability duplicates (which I doubt), that could lead to some crazy things. Also, this applies to any Twinborn with gold Feruchemy, I just thought Miles was a good example I guess Brandon Sanderson I'd like to see the exact WoB's here to make sure I'm being consistent, as I don't know that I confirmed you could regain lost powers--only that you could heal from hemalurgic soul damage. Most likely, what you'd end up with is a person who has been healed and can remove the spike from their body without damage, and without needing it to hold their soul together--but who has lost the ability in the spike. Regardless, though, what you want here (the mass production of spikes charged and even blanked) is possible with the right levels of investiture. It's an energy, like things in our world. The difficulty is finding out how to 1) get enough investiture and 2) key it to the right people and/or magic. Hope that's a little more clear. That said, a lot of times people just ask me if something is possible--and a lot of things are possible, but just very difficult. And with the right boost of investiture, in the right circumstances, it WOULD be possible to regrow lost (to spikes) powers. It's just highly unlikely. I'm not sure if the questions people are asking me are ones I've qualified, or not, in these instances. Also, this is all something I'm playing with still behind the scenes as we enter the modern age of Mistborn. HazelCharm47 As requested, here are the WoBs I believe are related. They might be obsolete, however. And I assume things will get changed a lot before Era 4, but hey, it's fun to ask anyways WoB #1: https://wob.coppermind.net/events/331/#e9434 This one states that as long as Miles still has his Identity, he would be able to use his Feruchemical metalminds after being spiked and would be able to heal. WoB #2: https://wob.coppermind.net/events/102/#e983 This one says that Miles would be able to heal his soul using Feruchemical healing and regain his gold Allomancy (assuming he survives the spiking). I think this is the most essential one! WoB #3: https://wob.coppermind.net/events/76/#e6335 This one is only somewhat related - implies that the Feruchemical and Allomantic powers are spiritually part of him. WoB #4: https://wob.coppermind.net/events/7/#e6435 Also tangentially related - damage to the soul from Hemalurgy can be healed (Although this might just be a Hoid thing). I guess the question could be expanded to include non-Feruchemical healing as a way to repair the soul after being spiked. Brandon Sanderson Well, I don't think any of those are specifically inaccurate. I just didn't quite understand what people were trying to get out of me. A lot of times, I don't know quite what people are trying to get out of me. I can see now they're trying to figure out. I see now, and I appreciate you putting this all together for me so I can see what the fans are trying to figure out. So the answer is a cautious yes. The problem here is that he'd need to compound a TON of healing first--but yes, it would work. You could theoretically turn someone like Miles into an invested spike factory. If he didn't have enough healing stored, though, he'd end up with a healed soul but a gap (like a scar on his soul) where his spiked-out abilities were. That could theoretically be healed with application of more investiture, depending on things like how he views himself, and if you could get the right type of investiture. General Reddit 2020 (Nov. 6, 2020) What makes kandra even better for this purpose is that a Gold compounding kandra wouldn’t need to worry about running out of gold to fuel these stunts and would be more likely to see those objects as part of themselves anyway. Then, the possibilites are basically endless. You could duplicate Hemalurgic spikes, Awakened objects, fabrials, white sand, Shardblades, the list goes on. As long as a Shard doesn’t take issue with this (and assuming Preservation can be tricked into making other Investiture.), you can do nearly anything, even accounting for the fact that you would quickly hit a limit with Invested objects. It would take some setting up, but the results are truly amazing. Edit: To clarify, we have reason to believe from the WoB about Miles that Compounding could duplicate Metallic Arts invested objects, but it may not do the same for other Investiture. Nevertheless, respawning metalminds and spikes is still useful

Mine was an A-Iron/F-Tin Twinborn who was mocked for their iron being less good than steel. As a result, they lean into using iron sight as a sort of radar and maybe even becoming a savant, which would let them fight precisely like Spook. I also think an A-Bronze/F-Copper Twinborn would make a great scientist/academic. They might even have a resonance that’s uniquely good at analyzing Investiture

Let me clarify. You’re suggesting that you need to convert a planet’s native Investiture to use a foreign magic system or maybe use Connection hacks. So a non Nalthsian can Awaken on Nalthis, but would need to make Breaths using the power of the local planet. Still a bit of a stretch since the question asked if anyone could Awaken after getting Breaths and the Breaths themselves should theoretically work. But I won’t say it’s impossible Brandon was answering with specifically off world awakening in mind. However, you also can’t dismiss my interpretation that an off world we having Breaths would only get the Heightenings without further tinkering. I never said that Nalthsians were the only ones with souls nor that Breaths were souls. I meant that off worlders don’t have any Breaths on their own soul and thus nothing to Awaken with. The extra Investiture that makes up a Breath is not part of a worldhopper’s soul Depends on how you define soul. My interpretation is that Cosmere souls are the Spiritual aspect of living creatures. This aspect takes the form of Investiture. It is this basic Investiture that even Drabs have, indecent of Innate Investiture like Breaths. By contrast, a Lifeless uses manipulated Investiture as a substitute for the soul. But the soul is still made of Investiture, even if Investiture itself can do other things. All souls are Investiture, but not all Investiture is a soul. And to clarify one more thing, no, the Beyond does not prove that soul exists outside of Investiture. It’s the mind or Cognitive aspect that gets pulled to the Beyond. There is no proof that a soul exists outside of the three aspects: Physical, Cognitive, and Spiritual. midwestredditor How are there kandra and koloss? Kandra especially, since they did their "mass suicide" thing at the end of the original trilogy. Brandon Sanderson The nice thing about the kandra for me in the narrative was that, though removing their spikes turns them feral, you can always stick those spikes back in. TenSoon feared that this was the end of his people, and it could have been, if those spikes hadn't gone back in quickly. As it was, there were costs. Time spent without spikes causes a kandra's memories to deteriorate, and some that were left a relatively long time were essentially reborn as new people. But the race survived, even if it is unlikely that their numbers will be added to. Brandon Sanderson Did TenSoon survive, then (as the TenSoon who experienced growth under Vin)? Brandon Sanderson Yes, though he did lose some things. /r/Fantasy_Bookclub Alloy of Law Q&A (Jan. 20, 2012) I forgot the part where it only happens after the spikes are gone for a long time, but this is where I got the idea. Either way, I’d say that my “spark of life” idea was kinda similar to trying to make a sapient Lifeless. You get Investiture coded to creat life and then a mind should form, though one made via the Investiture and not the original person. If anything, capturing the “spark of life” might even be more effective than a Lifeless by being optimized to sprout personality. At least, that how I assume souls form in the Cosmere There are tricks to duplicate Identity, including the possibility of Aluminum compounding. More steps and limits, but technically possible. Edit: Realized that you could argue that all Investiture was made from Adonalsium’s soul. Which would mean all Investiture is soul stuff, but some of it is God’s soul.

Read the WoB again Pechvarry (paraphrased) What happens when non-Nalthians come to Nalthis. Brandon Sanderson (paraphrased) They cannot use their own soul to Awaken but could do so with obtained Breath. Pechvarry (paraphrased) So anyone could start Awakening once they received Breaths? Brandon Sanderson (paraphrased) You would probably have to jump through some hoops to Awaken (talks about systems needing rigged up to work on different planets), but anyone can benefit from a Breath. Essentially said "it's not that easy!" Words of Radiance Dayton signing (March 19, 2014) The question was clearly about using Breaths and there is no reference to any other Investiture. The “own soul” part also logically refers to the fact that non Nalthsians don’t have Breath naturally. It doesn’t mean “using other Investiture”. As for your example, Awakening is still possible if you jumped through the requisite hoops. But just giving Breath to a world hopper wouldn’t meet that requirement Questioner So I have heard that it is harder to Push a Shardblade with Allomancy than it is a normal sword. Brandon Sanderson Yes. Questioner Is that true of both living and dead Shardblades? Brandon Sanderson Yes. Questioner Equally? Brandon Sanderson Uh, no. Questioner Okay, so it's even more difficult to Push one alive. Brandon Sanderson The thing-- An Invested object is more difficult with any of the magics. So, for instance, even a Feruchemical metalmind is going to be harder. Depends on how much it is Invested, and things like that. But, y'know, it can range from you barely notice it or don't even notice it to "Wow, that's hard to Push on". Same for a Hemalurgical spike, depending on how much Investiture is left over, how long has it been outside of a body, and things like that. Same thing Pushing on something inside a person's body, their Investiture is going to interfere with it. Same thing, when you read White Sand, why a person slapping their hand through someone's stream of sand can throw off the entire creation of the sand mastery. It's just-- There's interference patterns, and things like that. Questioner And is that true of a Drab as well? Does the body affect-- Brandon Sanderson The Drab is going to have less. Questioner So they just have less Investiture, but they still have some natural Investiture? Brandon Sanderson They do still have some. They've lost their Breath but that isn't the entirety of the Investiture inside of them. <snip> Firefight release party (Jan. 5, 2015) That Investiture that even Drabs retain is the Spark of Life. Yes, you could argue it’s just Investiture. But I was under the impression that it was the seed that grows into the bigger soul (you’re born with it and it causes your mind to form). You wouldn’t get the donor’s mind, but my theory is that the seed could basically grow into a new soul under the right circumstances. Kinda like how changing an kandra’s spikes makes a new personality. Awakening and having a body may or may not help with that. Maybe by the same token, a big nicrosil spike used on a spren could sprout a soul with proper coaxing. Also, H-Duralumin does store Identity too. You could consider cloning someone. But hey, if not that, then good old copper spikes are the way to go.

Only if you’re from Nalthis. Otherwise, you need something besides the actual Breaths. That being said, H-Duralumin might be better to use Connection to Nalthis or even Identity. But Awakening isn’t as free as you say. I think there is an underlying factor that lets people from Nalthis actually command their Breath, hence the WoB I referenced. Which could be taken instead of actual Breath by duralumin or nicrosil. Why wouldn’t it take normal Breaths? Divine Breaths may have a lot more power and very different expression, but the basic nature as transferable Investiture is the same. At most, you’d need three spikes. One nicrosil to change the self via Investiture, one Duralumin to get Connection to the Dor, and one to actually use AonDor. And that’s highballing it. But from that WoB, it probably just takes H-Duralumin and either H-Atium or H-Nicrosil. I’d probably lean H-Atium. It doesn’t matter how the feeding is done. Cosmere humans have an extra layer of Investiture beyond even innate Investiture, hence why Drabs are still alive at all. Yet, surely Nightblood would still kill one (though it would be a cool hack otherwise). As long as you intended to steal the spark of life, you should be able to. Also, let me clarify what I mean by spiking objects. I mean taking that basic spark of life Nightblood feeds on last. Putting it in a nicrosil spike and then using it on an object or Lifeless. You might need to cover an object with blood, but it should theoretically work. As long as you worked quickly, you could probably transfer most of it. Whether or not that would make a functional soul is up for debate. But if not, there’s always duralumin spikes : ) Ok, but what if you had a bigger spike? Could you put a spren in a koloss or a mistwraith? Maybe even a regular animal? Surgebinding is far from useless but I could see uses for spren with physical bodies. Or even Cognitive Shadows with bodies…

So are you saying that Feruchemical nicrosil can store anything Atium can steal in Hemalurgy? That sounds like it. In fact, now that I think about it, using Atium spikes on an Awakener wouldn’t take their Breath. It would just let the donor keep the Heightenings, but not Awaken with it, as if they weren’t from Nalthis. The opposite then happens with the recipient: they can Awaken easily but actually have to get some Breaths. Interesting… Pechvarry (paraphrased) What happens when non-Nalthians come to Nalthis. Brandon Sanderson (paraphrased) They cannot use their own soul to Awaken but could do so with obtained Breath. Pechvarry (paraphrased) So anyone could start Awakening once they received Breaths? Brandon Sanderson (paraphrased) You would probably have to jump through some hoops to Awaken (talks about systems needing rigged up to work on different planets), but anyone can benefit from a Breath. Essentially said "it's not that easy!" Words of Radiance Dayton signing (March 19, 2014) Based on the fact that nicrosil can store divine breaths, it might even be able to do anything that falls under H-nicrosil and H-Atium. Does that sound right? kingbirdy (paraphrased) Could Feruchemical nicrosil be used to store other Invested abilities, such as a Returned Breath or the abilities of the Knights Radiant? Brandon Sanderson (paraphrased) Yes, that's possible. DragonCon 2016 (Sept. 4, 2016) I’d assume you would also use nicrosil spikes if you wanted to become an Elantrian, though you might need something else for Aon Dor. As for taking someone’s soul, I was also referring to the part Nightblood takes from a human with no Breaths or other Investiture. Taking the spark of life would kill the donor, but that’s most Hemalurgy anyway. Could you put it in an Awakened object, blood smeared or otherwise, and give it true life? A Lifeless? Perhaps even a corpse. Once you’ve got something alive, then you can move on to Connection and Identity manipulation. Finally, what if you spiked a spren with nicrosil? Would their complete self be consumed into the spike? Could you give one a body by spiking a human? That would be amusing. Maybe you could do some entirely too elaborate shenanigans to put a bonded spren in their Radient’s body and vice versa. Then have the spren in human form make a new Nahel bond. Stupid but incredible. Edit: In regards to using F-Nicrosil to store actual H-Nicrosil Investiture, is that actually possible? Since it seems to work like a copper mind? Pagerunner When you tap the nicrosil portion of a medallion, will it run out over time? Or is it like a coppermind, where something discrete is taken, used, and returned? Brandon Sanderson Good question! Like a coppermind. That wouldn’t rule out Breaths as individual units, especially since divine Breaths work, but could be tricky for Stormlight or anything that’s harder to quantify. If you have any thoughts on how that works, let me know

In both Feruchemy and Hemalurgy, nicrosil stores Investiture. Yet, I don’t think they function the same, even accounting for different Hemalurgic spikes used on Allomancy and Feruchemy. In particular, Hemalurgy distinguishes between “powers” and “investiture”: both Atium and aluminum mention it Pagerunner The Hemalurgy table, you wrote down "atium steals any power, lerasium is all abilities, nicrosil is Investiture"; what's the difference between those three? Hemalurgic atium, lerasium, and nicrosil. What's powers, abilities, and Investiture? Brandon Sanderson People are Invested in ways that do not give them active powers. So for instance, everyone on Nalthis is Invested. Everyone in the cosmere is, really. You want to steal their Investiture, but they don't have a power. You're still ripping off a piece of their soul. So there is a distinction between the actual Investiture that's in a human being and a specific power that they have. So that distinction is pretty easy. You can also, with Hemalurgy, steal specific things. You can steal just general Investiture. You can steal, if you want--this is where the kandra Blessings come from. You can instead steal specific things that are not like stealing Allomancy. Stealing, for instance, someone's mental acuity. Pagerunner So abilities is like the half that's all the strength, speed, all that kind of stuff? Those are abilities, versus the Metallic Arts are all powers? Brandon Sanderson Yes. Pagerunner Then Investiture, is that offworld magics? Brandon Sanderson No, no, it's the raw power. Pagerunner Nicrosil is their soul? Brandon Sanderson Yes. A piece of their soul, essentially. Pagerunner So how would you go about stealing an offworld power? Brandon Sanderson It's going to depend. A Breath, you would steal with nicrosil. It's general Investiture, is what you would probably going call that. You could forcibly remove someone's Breath from them. The ability to be a Sand Master you would steal with the power ability. JordanCon 2021 (July 16, 2021) The impression I got was that for off world magics, nicrosil would take end neutral magics (you need Investiture from yourself) and end positive would be Atium. Hence why you need to steal Breath with the former and Sand Mastery with the latter. Yet, we know Nicrosil stores both Allomancy and Feruchemy. On top of that, nicrosil metalminds should be able to store Surgebinding kingbirdy (paraphrased) Could Feruchemical nicrosil be used to store other Invested abilities, such as a Returned Breath or the abilities of the Knights Radiant? Brandon Sanderson (paraphrased) Yes, that's possible. DragonCon 2016 (Sept. 4, 2016) So my question is this: does Feruchemy just lack that distinction altogether? I assume so. Hemalurgy is a different system and it makes sense that it might function differently. In that case, you should be able to store Sand Mastery in nicrosil, but not use spikes that way. You could also argue that Atium, as a true wild card, can also steal Investiture. However, that makes aluminum Hemalurgy a bit weird since it removes (not steals) all powers. If all Invesiture were included in aluminum, that implies that it affects the very soul and likely destroys it Nightblood style. Anyway, what do you guys think? Am I missing something here? Let me know your thoughts.

Most luck manipulation mechanics are just a cheat code for “do literaly anything” because it’s technically possible to some trillionth of a decimal. But even with limited knowledge, Fortune doesn’t work that way. It’s more about seeing the future, even instinctively, and getting an idea for what you need. In theory, the power could become a deus ex machina, but I don’t really believe Brandon will do that. I’d bet only characters with established Fortune manipulation, like Chromium users, will be able to do more dramatic stuff and only with proper telegraphing and/or foreshadowing

Correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe the reason Ruin couldn’t properly interact with metal was because Preservation was in it and blocking him. Not only would Harmony or Discord be able to just destroy the world, but he probably could alter metal text. Assuming he wants to gaslight Scadrial and not gas it (hello Deepness).

Are you sure about that? Compounding works because the Feruchemy decides how Investiture acts. The initial Atium burning would still use Ruin. Thus, the Compounding should just alter Preservation’s power to act like Ruin. That being said, your logic would still be interesting for most Compounding I would sorta agree with you here. When I first asked this question, I had underestimated just how potent God Metals were. But there is still a valid question to ask: what happens if you Compound with another Shard’s Investiture, like Atium or breaths via nicrosil? I see three options 1. Compounding simply can’t copy that way. Given this is the Cosmere we’re talking about, it’s easily the least likely IMO. 2. The other Shard’s power is copied by Preservation, but they separate like oil on water. When the Investiture is used up, both Shards get their power back as appropriate 3. The hack permanently tricks Preservation’s Investiture into becoming another Shard entirely. This seems most likely as a fatal hack in the magic I’m not convinced the other two options are right, but if you can prove one is, I’d be willing to cede this point too Based on what we know of Fortune, you might be right. Everyone has it and it does see the Spiritual Realm similar to atium, but you store it with chromium, not tin. If any metal besides tin could store Atium sight, it would probably be chromium and not nicrosil. It depends on whether you view Chromium as stretching to other Spiritual time awareness or just Fortune, but you could make the case. This would also explain why TLR didn’t have that ability (imagine if he did). If Chromium stores Atium, it probably also stores the other time senses like electrum and gold (why would you ever reverse compound gold?). You could argue steelsight too, since it uses the Spiritual Ream, but I wouldn’t. It’s actually be really cool to say that Fortune is something more like spiritual time awareness and that chromium covers all time senses, while tin covers the rest (bronze, steelsight, Awakener lifesense). I’m headcannoning this now cause I think it’s cool

There’s also a third option here: he simply chose to do nothing. Harmony is not a good Shard for doing stuff and Sazed already doesn’t have many real reasons to weaken the Metallic Arts besides the worry of a Fullborn (which he might be able to stop anyway) Even Sazed knowing isn’t necessarily that big a deal. Perhaps he just chose not to artificially preserve the magic systems instead of actively weakening them. Also, I thought Sazed had regretted making life so easy in the Elendel Basin precisely BECAUSE the Southern Scadrians are only made cool stuff trying to survive. If he wanted people to have medallions and could intervene, why not give the Basin one to reverse engineer like Kelsier did or even outright tell the people how to make them?

I was thinking about the unsealed metalminds, trying to wrap my head around how they worked. I kept getting bothered by the fact that F-Duralumin is used when F-Aluminum appears to be naturally better and still doesn’t work. But then I had an idea. The consistent problem with unsealed metalminds is getting into the nicrosil metalminds. Even blanking Identity only makes it usable for Nicrosil Feruchemists and Ferrings, not just anyone. But then I realized there’s one other thing we know on Scadrial that gives ordinary people powers: God Metals. In fact, the one godmetal we can canonically confirm to do this very thing. I would posit that an unsealed metalminds is used to duplicate a nearby Nicrosil Ferring or Feruchemists ability, just like we’ve seen with the Allomancy grenades. Since it’s a God Metal duplicating, it has the same universal use option as lerasium. Or to use Brandon’s own terminology, it is pure Investiture Brandon Sanderson So one of the things people have been asking about a lot the nature of Identity and its uses for accessing other people's metalminds, and things like this right. And I hedged a little bit when somebody asked me... *inaudible*...send people into spirals of confusion, so I'm gonna clarify it for now. So, someone comes in and says, we need a blank metalmind, anybody can use that. I'm like, yes but, the reason that it's a hedge is that you need to actually be a feruchemist to access it, right, you can't just hold the blank metalmind not being a feruchemist, even though it's somebody else's investiture that's been blanked, right. So people keep kind of missing this thing. I'm hedging in the sort of, you don't quite have it, I've kind of dodged it, but I worry that it's just going to be confusing. So the issue is, you need two things from one of these. You need something that makes you a feruchemist, and then you need a metalmind that somebody else has filled with blank investiture, ok. Now if you can get pure investiture, that can be used by anybody, regardless, ok, you need it in pure form though. <snip> Arcanum Unbounded Seattle signing (Dec. 1, 2016) In fact, the Allomancy grenades should work similarly and simply not be noticed because no person is actively tapping an ability. What about Feruchemical duralumin, you ask? That’s a bit trickier. My theory is that F-Duralumin is used to make harmonium itself into a metalmind. Logically speaking, if any one can Allomantically burn a true God Metal, the same should apply for Feruchemy. After that, one can infer that it is possible to draw out other applicable traits than whatever Harmonium’s base is, which should apply to both Connection and Identity. The former already works with how Shards are always tied to their power and the fact that Lerasium grants Connection. The latter simply supposes that the ability to do Feruchemy is basically coded Investiture in your soul that allows it to do that, kinda like Breaths (which can be stolen by nicrosil Hemalurgy under similar terminology) As such, I propose two procedures: the Tapping Method and the Storage Method. Tapping Method: 1. Have your duralumin Feruchemist tap Connection from harmonium. Continue until it’s blank. If all goes well, you should be left with pure Investiture, unaligned to any master. 2. With this new blank slate, have the Nicrosil Feruchemist fill the Investiture with their ability. 3. After sufficiently filling it, have the Nicrosil Feruchemist draw back the pure Investiture. 4. Fill a nicrosil mind with the pure Investiture. That nicrosil is now coded like a God Metal and works for everyone a la lerasium 5. Have other Metalborn fill the nicro godmind with their own powers, saving it for later Storage method 1. Have the Nicrosil Feruchemist store their ability in Harmonium. This tells the Harmnium to copy that ability, like how burning a metalmind changes what the metal does. 2. Have the Duralumin Feruchemist store their Connection. This contaminates the nicrosil ability into thinking it’s always part of the God Metal 3. Have the nicrosil Feruchemist tap the harmonium and store the resulting products in a nicrosil mind 4. Fill the new nicrosil mind with the desired abilities There may be a few other variations, but the end result is a nicrosilmind that acts like a Godmetal. This can then be filed as full as the nicrosil can store, which would explain why medallions only store a few powers. If there anything I missed let me know. Thank you for coming to my TED talk Edit: Thinking about it, I don’t think God Metals work for Feruchemy in the same way lerasium lets anyone use it. It might function as a universal metalmind, but you’d need to be able to give it an attribute in the first place. In other words, have Feruchemy yourself. However, my points about nicrosil and duralumin still stand. Edit 2: You may not even need duralumin more than once. An exicsor could easily be harmonium tapped of Connection. Once you’ve got that, any nicrosil Feruchemist can use it by storing into Exicsor, tapping, and putting the hacked ability in a nicrosil mind.

Honestly, when I thought “computer programmer”, I was immediately drawn to copper and zinc. But there may also be less obvious options. Depending on how Scadrial’s computers use copper Feruchemy, I think aluminum could be pretty fun. Taking Identity theft to a whole new level. I also would support duralumin for similar reasons. As for ruling out metals, I’m pretty confident in removing F nicrosil and the temporal metals. I’m iffy on the physical metals, but am not really actively expecting them except maybe steel for Nicroburst shenanigans. In short, I’d bet that her Feruchemy metal is going to be in the mental or enhancement/spirtual areas of the Allomancy table

So far, we know only a few things about the main protagonist of Mistborn Era 3. As far as we know, she will be a “brown Terris geek girl” who specializes in computer programming and has nicrosil Allomancy. However, what I’m curious about is if she’ll be a Twinborn. Her Allomantic power isn’t one we haven’t seen used yet, but that didn’t stop Wayne from being Twinborn with bendalloy. So that makes me wonder: what sort of Feruchemy might she have? Do you think she’ll get any resonance powers? If so, what might those be?

The only things I can tell about Lerasium’s power level is that it’s equal or greater to duralumin, since it can perform feats of similar level. I don’t know how it stacks up in comparison to a Misting ability paired with a Hemalurgic spike. The best point to speculate is based on breaking copper clouds Questioner There is quantitative difference in Allomancy (e.g. Elend is stronger than Vin), there is skill difference (e.g. Breeze is better than Vin with zinc), but is there a qualitative difference too? Brandon Sanderson That’s the scale of what we call savant. Wax can do more with less. It’s not just skill, the burning for long, using for so long, will actually adapt your soul to the power. Questioner So can bronze savants pierce copperclouds? Brandon Sanderson Yes, a bronze savant should be able to pierce copperclouds. It depends on the strengths of the coppercloud and the strength of the savant, but yes. Questioner So Elend could theoretically learn to pierce copperclouds? Brandon Sanderson Weaker ones, yeah, totally. He can learn how to do it by brute force. Shadows of Self San Francisco signing (Oct. 9, 2015) We know Inquisitors and Vin with the earrings can do so, but both should have greater skill in bronze. If you guys have any guesses for how to compare Allomancer power levels, let me know, but I honestly don’t expect anything else that could work. Anyway, the WoB also seems to imply that Elend could also learn to replicate Zane’s hovering with training. I imagine that is just as much an issue of finesse as simply brute forcing it

You could argue that the priests would be so used to God Kings that they would simply assume female Returned infants wouldn’t qualify and overlook them. But more likely, she would be God Queen. Even if there was some slight bias, they clearly recognize that Returned infants are special and rare. The gender neutral language from Chapter 55 also helps. Having a God Queen would also be pretty easy for the people to accept too. God Kings don’t work by primongenture or any inheritance conflicts else that have blocked queens on Earth. Plus, female Returned are well established and accepted. Maybe someone raises their eye, but then they just accept the same basic mechanism and move on. It does also make me wonder how that queen courtship stage would work. Theoretically, whatever trick let previous God Kings have kids should work the other way. The pregnancy would probably have weird effects on the kid, but they would be Returned anyway, so not too wierd. And there’s always the classic Returned infant trick if the pregnancy is somehow impossible.

I mean, maybe you could become a Sliver? Especially if you did it tons of times I imagine that Compounding duralumin as a Mistborn would temporarily boost your Allomancy, perhaps even to the level of TLR or the Bands of Mourning. A Twinborn could also probably boost their Misting ability in the same way Wax did with the building. But Shards are probably too much. It does make me wonder if you had multiple Fullborn doing the same thing. Imagine some alternate Scadrial where people figured out how to easily make Fullborn (Hemalurgy?), only to pull Preservation’s entire power into some elaborate metalminds collection. It wouldn’t top shattering Adonalsium, but it’d still be pretty impressive.

For some time, I’ve wondered how F-Duralumin would interact with Connection to Shards. We know that allomacers made by Lerasium have a strong Connection to Preservation and I assume Allomacers have a weaker version of the same. We also know that one can ascend to Preservation if they could become a Lerasium savant. But that led me to a question about Lerasium: is it the new Connection that provides their powers in the first place? The metal definitely alters a subject’s spiritwebs, but it’s unclear to me if the Connection grants the new abilities or is simply a side effect. If the former, then that implies the Connection is also the main mechanism for tapping the Shard. Which leads me to my question. Given time and resources could a lerasium-equivalent Compounder like the Lord Ruler mimic lerasium savantism? Could they mimic the Well of Ascension or even just take the Shard altogether? Admittly, j doubt it. When I first came up with the theory, I don’t think I have enough respect for the insane power Shards command and how difficult it is to mimic. Nevertheless, I wanted to throw out the notion to confirm my suspicions. Can you Compound an Allomantic Connection enough to get even temporary Shardic power? Or would it be impossible even as a theoretical model? Edit: Thinking about it, using Compounding to hurt a Shard is like using a hose to drain the ocean. Youd need something truly crazy ti pull it off, not just a Compounder

I guess. Elend didn’t have experience either, but maybe that’s just cause he had lerasium and was more powerful. And maybe if you explained it right to a koloss, they could. If all else fails, use duralumin-brass. But I think era 1 koloss could understand. Maybe not early Final Empire koloss, but it doesn’t seem that hard to grasp, since even Allomancers who don’t know anything can instinctively sense a well of power.