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KoWT, I get it

I think the sun is a benevolent god in their religion and not at all associated with odium or hatred. He prolly does not feel like he deserves sunlight after becoming truthless. He does not want the sun god to see his shame.

Oooh yess. Renarin definitely can be the interlude character and I like your suggestion about rlain. That makes sense to me. And yeah taravangian gunning for renarin is particularly great. In fact, in fact I would not be surprised if Renarin and szeth are in particular danger because of taravangian. He would not want nightblood in anyone's hands than his own. He might try to manipulate ishar into killing szeth too.

Deadeyes are stuck in their shardblade form in the physical realm until they are bonded to people using an embedded gemstone. Then whenever these shardblade are dismissed they appear in shadesmar. I am not sure about his. Someone correct if I am wrong Not twenty thousand, just over 200 in that vision. If that was close to the entire stonewards and Windrunners, we can expect totally to be somewhere between 500- 800 Yes they are prolly somewhere in the physical realm but we have no idea where

I think it's just her hand touching the pillar right now Navani definitely created light by just singing and having her hand on the pillar.

We know there were dawnshards( plural) in the rosharan systems at that time. We know that the rosharan system was created by Adonalsium. The three moons just so happen to be at the Lagrange points of the orbit around the earth. The singers and the entire ecology was also created by Adonalsium. The Rosharan world needs spren to survive at all, meaning there was a lot of free investiture there anyway. So roshar has always been a special little planet. Cultivation seems to have the best futuresight in the area. Endowment is also close by and alone on a planet. I think odium just thought that no matter how romantically involved Tanavast and Koravellium were, they would end up fighting each other due to their differing intents. He thought it would happen like devotion and dominion. Instead he was surprised to find out that they actually worked together really well and bound him to the planet

Oh my god, I was also trying to find the all the hidden symbolism too for my theory and someone already did it. For my part, I think the sun is definitely thematically a good thing. From your examples it's likely that a rising sunr is portrayed as a good thing and the sun setting is a bad thing instead of sun being good or bad. I think a setting sun is supposed to symbolise the fall of a good man and death of honor in men. The sun itself represents honor and good men in symbolic ways. Sometimes the sun is just used to give an idea of intense heat

I was trying to find that quote! I do think it is more plausible that reshephir and ba-ado-mishram used to be singers tho. Reshephir seems to have lost a bit of sentience

Hi! You posted this topic twice. I don't think Lirin will become a Windrunner simply because protection is not a big theme around him. His stubborn insistence on letter of his oaths makes his temperament more like a skybreaker anyway. He was ready to heal people and send them off to their deaths, completely missing the point of healing them in the first place, I feel. I think it is morr likely that he will become a edgedancer or stoneward. Edgedancer because there was a lot of focus on him to 'listen' in RoW. Edgedancers are also combat medics, which is an interesting contrast with his job. Stonewards are the quintessential soldiers and I think that makes an interesting contrast to Lirin. He is stubborn enough to be a stoneward but exactly in the opposite way. If the third ideal of stonewards is something like 'i will do what I must' then this could be the moment Lirin kills someone. Well my thoughts on this are scattered. I don't think Lirin will become a Windrunner, he isn't that big on friends or protecting or leading. Who knows. I could be wrong

I feel like the radiant in the gem archive is clearly being secretive because he has futuresight because his spren was enlightened. No other reading is jumping out at me. The radiant foresaw thie abandonment of Urithiru. They might actually be a new recruit. A spren can totally choose to be 'enlightened' during the war effect if it wants to. We saw it with glys in the present. We know mistsren are most open to this. It's definitely pospsible one of them chose to be enlightened back in the day. Sorry, I didn't understand what you meant by this Isn't the op's theory that any uncorrupted truthwatcher has futuresight? If instead, the loss of restrictions by honor was the reason they have futusight, I can see that happening. But wouldn't it be impossible for the shards to know their future at all? Because, here's the thing, futuresight is powerful. Renarin is a thorn on the diagram's and odium's side by just being there. Not even actively doing anything. If every truthwatcher in the back half has futuresight, it would be waay too much power for that particular order to have. It isn't comparable to a bondsmith unchained. Also doesn't explain the gem archive radiant's secrecy at all

Do we actually know that this is recent? Or could it be be that the process is a lot easier now because of something (BAM or Honor's death) Because I find the idea that there were 10-20 truthwatchers that could see the future for over 2000 years and somehow it's still believed to be from the enemy. That is very unlikely to me. And the knights radiant were especially afraid of sja-anat. So they might have Guessed that this was possible

The fact that this is a 'particularly' small emerald, the secrecy of the person writing, I think we can be sure that this radiant was a corrupted truthwatcher. I think it's more likely that uncorrupted truthwatchers can see the spiritual ideal version of people( what they could be), their 'true' self. Which is prolly why they are called 'truthwatchers'. For example, When renarin heals Adolin, he gives Adolin a vision of his perfect self. He does the same thing with Moash, with also the surge of illumination and this time in full control. I think those can be done by any truthwatcher But actual future sight, the one he demonstrated to Dalinar, where he gets visions, is purely Sja Anat's effect. I don't think any other corrupted radiant spren will give futuresight tho

Elsecallers and Windrunners have different views of morality. Windrunners are about protecting and leading people. They are very tied to their sense of honor ( they even bond honorspren). Honor is all about keeping your oaths. In kaladin's case he had two conflicting oaths and nearly killed syl. By overcoming his hatred and following his duty, he saved the bond Elsecallers are more Machiavellian in their philosophy. They don't consider the first ideal to be against this. Brandon has said that elsecallers think of the whole of humanity as the journey Different spren have different views on morality. What one spren hates, another might like. Hope that answers your question

This is something I found while surfing. So maybe it's possible? With extra help

Same, it drove me nuts too. I was also thinking about the rhythms when I said he will spread the knowledge of stormlight or lifelight with his flute while traveling around the place

I think he is hearing odium's rhythm as he gets more and more violent rather that the any specific unmade's effect

Syl will stick the ball to his hand just when he is about to make an epic slam dunk

I think we will see Dalinar swear the fourth ideal and simultaneously ascend or something making the fifth ideal moot. He already breaks a lot of rules by summoning perpendicularities and rayse talks like Dalinar already ascended. If we are going to see someone swear the fifth ideal, it would be Kaladin. If kal doesn't, I don't think anyone will. Shallan is a wierd case So silverlight would be completely dependent on the PR? That seems very unlikely. At that point why not just live normally near land? I don't think it will be easy to colonise shadesmar just they will be very Lucky and get some good help from cultivation.

Welcome to the shard! 1)I don't know if we know anything about Voidbinding to say anything, but it's possible. But isn't there a line that says humans used the magic of 'surges and spren'. I don't remember the exact line 2) If Voidbinding was a thing in shinovar, I would expect a more (evil?) odium-like society. But instead they seem very faithful to their religion, they have a ridiculous amount of persistance to their tenets(szeth and the damn oathstone smh) and most importantly they are peaceful isolationist farmers who hate warriors. They seem to care more about cultivation actually. But they also call the sun, god of the gods( sun is heavily associated with odium) and they did lead a lot of invasion so idk. I want this to happen now!( Don't know how the book will juggle it all tho) I don't remember this. Source? This is where we completely disagree. 1) Why would honor ever pick the other heralds if they have such obvious problems? Wouldn't people like taln be the better candidate? People who weren't touched by odium would just be the first pick. But taln wasn't even considered 2) I am very happy that someone is trying to find a reason for taln not breaking for 4500 years than just going 'he toughed it out when no one else could'. I am also anxiously trying to find a reason why he was able to do handle torture for so long but I don't think that's it. Because that would go against the entire theme of the story. That 'broken' people are worth saving and that their value isn't lesser than normal people. If the only herald without mental illness was able to withstand the torture that 9 people with mental illnesses couldn't, that makes them look like total chumps in comparison. I think it's far more likely that taln also has similar magical illness and the reason he did not break is something else. There was theory that taln actually bonded a spren before getting betrayed and for 4500 years he had a friend inside his head which none of the other heralds had. While I think this theory is completely wrong, this solution matches with the themes of the story. My guess is Brandon's answers will be something similar

I don't think Shallan's mother knew Nohadon's name but ya I definitely am convinced that shallan read the way of kings and found out the first oath like that. And Shallan's mother is obviously very important for some secret society reason

Since you qoted my second point earlier(the one about silverlight) I am going to assume that you do know about silverlight. There is an entire city that exists with actual people, so I assume you can get food and water. But even beyond that, we saw in rhythm of war that plantlife can be grown by lifelight and investiture. Soulcasting is still a thing in world that can help out in a crisis. Shadesmar has black obsidian ground, but I don't think it's actually obsidian Let's not forget, Roshar should be unlivable (no soil, just rock). Rock buds and shale bark exist because of cultivation's investiture and crem( which has nutrients for these plants) also is influenced by cultivation. ( I think) It is magic afterall, they can find a way

What I don't like about Jasnah is that she is too perfect and is revered by everyone in the series and too special. For other characters like kal, Dalinar and shallan, they doubt themselves a lot and have insecurities and I really love them for that. Jasnah doesn't seem to have much insecurities, so I can't understand what she is thinking and I like being in a character's head And everyone thinks Jasnah is perfect and unique. Hoid has never met an asexual person? Really? Navani and Ivory think she is perfect?? Your mother and your therapist ( spren are like therapists right?) who have prolly seen you at your worst think that you are perfect? Navani actively compares herself to Jasnah and that's just wrong.

I am sorry, I don't know much about silverlight, is there a particular need of infrastructure and equipment? I imagine that you could still survive, if a little uncomfortably.

In my head, I think of more like a significant piece of Roshar getting destroyed and the most of humans having to evacuate to shadesmar. There will still be Roshar, but more dangerous and inhabited by a growing parshendi population. This can get fixed tho in the later books as Mistborn era 1 spoilers

1.) Maybe, but I don't think the rest of the death rattle matches that( did the singer's even create the shattered plains? They seemed to deny it in their songs(some epigraphs) 2.) Well we do know that Silverlight spoilers