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Week Five

Perses was convinced that the House wanted him mad. It certainly didn't want him dead, at least not yet. When he was out of food, the House provided. After he was starving and nearly dead, that was. When he was dying from thirst, water was there. However, Perses always had to work for it. One time he had to climb onto a chandelier to get to a single glass. And of course, the faucets never had running water. Well, not in a long time. He always had to check these days, but he thought it was just the House giving him false hope. He had long since given up on finding his own way out. The House wouldn't have let him go anyway. Why it wanted him, Perses didn't know. Maybe the House had tried this before, and the others were smart enough to end it themselves.

Yet, just to spite it, Perses wouldn't give in. He would live. He would survive. He would. Not. Break. "You'll never break me," Perses sneered. "At least not with your current tactics." At this point, he was hardly even scared of the Housekin anymore. They haven't done anything to him but wander. Were they trapped here too? Best not to sympathize with the creatures. They certainly didn't pity him. 

These were the thoughts he had as he headed back home. Two lefts, one right, straight ahead, past the fire, to the left, and three rights. He took these as he thought them, with the House being strangely consistent with this area. He was glad for it though. Maybe the House could only move certain areas of the manor. Maybe Perses had found a safe-haven.

However, as Perses made his final turn, he reached a wall. Not a problem. He walked around the location. Why is the fireplace room here? A sense of dread formed in his stomach. Clearly, the house could still mess with this area. Well, no matter. Perses could find a way back. He always did...

On 3/16/2024 at 1:19 PM, Trusk'our said:

@alder24's answer on the Q&A forum about Spiritwebs and time got me thinking about Fortune again.

I think that when someone is using Fortune, what they are doing is using "echoes" of possible future Connections that exist in the SR, that are then filtered through their subconscious Cognitive Aspect.

For example, Syl "knew" Kaladin before ever meeting him.

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Why is Kaladin so proficient-- Like naturally born to wield a spear. Is that a weapon he likes or is it a destiny for him?

Brandon Sanderson

So destiny is a strong term... I would say he has natural aptitude, but no more so than a normal person who has a natural aptitude for something. But the way the Spiritual Realm works in the cosmere and the way Connection works, there were certain things that were happening to Kaladin before they happened...

It's like Syl says in one of the books. "You didn't know me then, but I knew you then. Even though we hadn't met yet, I still knew you." You see some weird Connection things too. And these are mostly just for fun sort of cosmere connections. Like when you see Syl take on the look of Shallan standing on the beach. There's gonna be a connection there. It's forming, it doesn't exist yet, but all things are one in the Spiritual Realm, and we're just kinda seeing echoes of that. It's not meant to be destiny, it's more meant to be, "Hey there's little connections happening".

I would not say Kaladin is any more naturally gifted in that than your average professional sports player is naturally gifted in what they do.

 The difference with seeing visions, such as when Atium is Burned with duralumin, is that you're using your conscious mind to read Spiritwebs and probability in the SR, not using a natural mechanism built into your mind/soul.

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Is looking into the Spiritual Realm the only way to look into the future?

Brandon Sanderson

Any looking into the future involves looking at Spiritwebs, probability, and stuff like that. So, yes.

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Chaos

Odium said to Taravangian, "You did this without access to Fortune or the Spiritual Realm?" How does one access Fortune without the Spiritual Realm or Feruchemical chromium, as almost all future sight tends to utilize the Spiritual Realm in some way?

Brandon Sanderson

So, that line is mostly just me saying... *long pause* I think you're picking apart those things too much.

Chaos

Right, that makes sense. Hey, Odium said it, so I didn't know-- Gotta take that seriously, so.

Brandon Sanderson

So, yeah, don't read too much into picking apart those two things. You can read it as-- Honestly, that is me making sure I am being clear in the text.

Chaos

That there are those are two different things.

Brandon Sanderson

Yeah those are two different things, but they are just interrelated. Fortune is a property, and the Spiritual Realm is a place, but not a place. Do you know what I mean? To use Fortune, you're always involving the Spiritual Realm, but in the Spiritual Realm, you're not always involving Fortune.

So, some instances of this in use could be a person like Navani might be able to invent a new type of Fabrial by "accidentally" stumbling upon a new discovery by subconsciously following the instructions of Fortune, Dalinar "knowing" Kaladin was a good fit for the job of guarding Elhokar because he "felt" it was right, and Vin potentially "sensing" that someone was dangerous by instinct alone.

All of those interactions would be useful in those people's own minds, thus making their Fortune making natural predictions about those circumstances, but because they would sometimes misinterpret or ignore this advice (especially when given seemingly clear evidence that would suggest following other courses of action), there is a good chance most people's Fortune goes to waste. What's more, everybody has access to some level of Fortune (whether or not they listen to it), so just as with all forms of seeing the future the more people who use it, the more chance that it will wind up being incorrect due to direct or indirect competition.

That said I think that people like Wayne may have a higher, or "stronger" Fortune than others, giving them an advantage when it comes to success; my goodness, Wayne had about 120 million boxings by the end of TLM, and he was basically running all of his decisions on gut-instinct reactions (I think his Resonance must have dealt with heightened Fortune).

Thoughts?

Wayne’s resonance being fortune is not something I would have thought of, yet it feels so right. Wayne is suspiciously lucky. Now, it could just boil down to pure luck, and sometimes that does happen, but in a world where one of the universal mechanics is quantifiable and tangible (not quite tangible, but you know what I mean) luck, the chance (heh) of it being a coincidence is low.

And yeah, I certainly think that some people are more fortune-prone than others. People are naturally invested in some form, so it would stand to reason that everyone has access to some amount of fortune. How it’s determined I have no clue, but I am a big fan of the theory!

I really like this idea! I would say that it honestly really depends on how much lerasium you need to make an alloy. And past that, how much would you need to make a lerasium-strength misting. 

And obviously you would need to tinker to make even one usable alloy, which would likely take at least one, if not multiple beads, but we’ll just assume that’s already been done or whatever, as it obviously kinda blows a massive hole in the idea.

If you could have an alloy that would allow for 16 misting powers, I could see the advantages. I do really like the resonance combos of having two allomantic metals! There is some very strong potential there.

Perses, The Corridor, the Silver Dagger.

Perses entered the shop. Luckily, Venser was just finishing up with a customer. 
 

“Ah, welcome! We have much to discuss.” Venser motioned for Perses and together, they entered the back room.

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Venser, The Corridor, Back of the Silver Dagger.

This guy gives me the creeps. Hemalugists are very dangerous to be around, and are often quite unstable. Venser had known of other venders in the Hemalurgy business, and few last very long in the area. Whether they died or were snatched up by the Dark Alleys, Venser wasn’t sure. All he knew was that he was never going to sell spikes.

”You have come just in time, my friend. The weapon is here for you.” Venser opened out a secured drawer and pulled out the weapon. The aluminum pistol was covered in a nice silvery sheen, with a sleek leather grip etched with an intricate swirling pattern. Along with it, he brought out a set of magazines.

”Like what you see?” Immediately, Venser regretted the words. He has spikes through his eyes. He won’t be able to detect aluminum. He handed the pistol to the gentleman. “Here.”

As the man inspected the gun, Venser continued. “This gun is a dual barreled pistol, with two different types of ammunition.” Venser took a bullet from one of the magazines. “One, a simple 0.45mm aluminum bullet. The other,” Venser said, holding a different bullet, “a pure tungsten bullet of the same caliber.” He laid the two down. “The weapon is equipped to easily toggle between the two, one for anti-investiture targets, and the other for steel-enhanced punching power. Frankly, I suspect that the tungsten rounds could easily punch through multiple walls.” Venser paused for dramatic effect.

”The other interesting part of the weapon is the interior. On the back, there should be an easily removable hatch.” He waited for the hemalurgist to flick open the hatch, which easily slid to the top of the weapon. “The safety, catchs, and ammunition toggle are all internal, only accessible by coinshots. I’ve been able to modify the interior to accommodate for your unique capabilities.”

Venser was proud of his creation. The design was wholly unique, made only once before in its original form for a coinshot from Mistkeep. He took pride in all of his weaponry, but the guns were certainly his favorite. The intricacies of different time periods and places were fascinating, and the resources in Alleycity felt limitless. And plus, firearms sold much better.

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Perses, The Corridor, Back of The Silver Dagger.

As Venser kept explaining how to use the weapon, Perses struggled to keep up. He had handled many a firearm, but he had never used something like this. The revolver seemed much more advanced that the six-shots he knew, and it felt powerful. He was itching to get to use it. 
 

“The magazines hold eight of one type of bullet in them, and are of course also aluminum. The two types of magazine come with two types of etchings at the bottom of them, so they can easily be differentiated. I went ahead and gave you three sets of magazines, one set being already loaded. There are of course more bullets, but those are stored separately. I’ve supplied you with 40 of each type of bullets, and you can come to me when you are running low.” 
 

So much of this weapon was foreign to Perses. Magazines? A catch? He would have to ask the gunsmith about them. But that would be once he was done rambling. Of course, he was still getting good information. But it was a lot to take in.

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For any gun nerds out there, or just for anyone that wants an image reference, the model of the pistol is heavily inspired by the AF2011A1 dual barrel pistol.

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1 hour ago, Dofurion said:

It's just a simple thought to see what they think. Could the haemalurgical effect of Bavadium be "stealing invested connections"?
That would imply that in this case he could steal the 16 Allomantic powers with a single nail (As long as the "donor" is a Mistborn), but that he could not steal a Breath or Feruchemimic abilities

Well, we know that technically, lerasium steals ALL abilities of the target, so technically there’s that. However, I think lerasium is supposed to be special in that regard (and is admittedly a bit useless now)

Perses, The Corridor

Three days had passed, and Perses was itching for development. For the past three days, all he had done was gather information. What is currently going on in the city, what impact he has made. The Tin Street Mafia had all but fallen, in large part due to Perses’ efforts. The ironworks was a large part of their power in this area, and he had managed to also kill one of the largest officials in that attack. And with their supply of atium gone, their odds of financially recovering from Perses’ efforts was incredibly low.

Soon, Perses would be able to lay roots in the Mistwarrens, and slowly expand his influence from there. But why did control have to take so long?

After some further walking, Perses arrived at the Silver Dagger. It was time for him to get a much needed upgrade.

@Stormlightsong

Chloris, now outside the burning building, stood in disbelief. What just happened? 

Alleycity, Val. Anything can happen.

Instinctively, Chlo checked to make sure everyone was okay. The only people still in there seemed to want to be in there, which was decidedly not her problem.

Was this purposeful? Was there something, or somebody, important in the bar that was intended to be hit by this? She would have to check over the footage that her MAPID took. It had a small camera that records events within 24 hours, but Chloris did not build it to be access anything other than text overlays and the database. Anything else, such as voice and video logs, needed to be accessed on a laptop, which of course, she left at her motel room. 
 

I told you that you should have brought it…What if it was stolen? 
 

Chlo brushed the comment off. She had a tracker for it, and plus, very few in Alleycity knew the value of electronic technology. Especially in the Mistwarrens.

Looking back to the fire, she contemplated. Was there anything she could do? Not really, no. If the Windrunner couldn’t do anything, she certainly couldn’t.

And with those final thoughts, Chloris left.

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@TheRavenHasLanded, the bar is Bendalloy Bar in the Mistwarrens.

5 hours ago, Lunamor said:

Chloris was distracted, too. Was she also focused on whatever Lum was doing? Eza stole a glance backwards to see that the two were rolling dice. If Lum was trying to steal from the guy, they really should’ve just asked Eza to do it. And why were all the theatrics necessary to set up a simple dice game?

If Lum did things like this frequently, she could see why they got kicked out of gambling establishments so often. You didn’t need luck to antagonize powerful people. She forced her attention back to Chloris again.

”What’s your job?”

Eza was pretty sure that was the question she had asked earlier. The conversation felt like it was going nowhere in a painfully awkward way, but at least they weren’t pressing her about Perses anymore.

Chloris winced slightly. “I’m in between jobs at the moment.” Is that another way of saying that you thought it was more important to look into the backstory of your previous employer than take the money he was giving you, and then ending up getting involved in the Tin Street Mafia? Minthe replied icily.
 

not helpful, Chloris replied mentally.

Right. Asylum was employed by someone, weren’t they? I wonder if I could get hired by them as well…

Chloris, brain finally catching up, put two and two together. Hold on. Hemalurgist? Building leveler?

Great. Asylum’s in league with the newest crime lord on the block.

Wait…Is this bar in danger?

On 2/18/2024 at 9:01 PM, Lunamor said:

Eza turned back to Chloris distractedly. Her attention was still largely focused on Lum’s stunt.

“I work with Lum, but not for their boss directly. I’ve only met their boss once, in passing. I know who he is, but am not familiar with him.”

A hint of disgust showed on Eza’s face as she talked about Perses. She hated that she was associated with him at all. To be perfectly honest, she was scared of him too. He killed people like her to steal what became his powers, and she had no doubt that he would be willing to do it again.

In an attempt to stop their uncomfortable line of questioning, Eza changed the subject.

“So, Chloris, what do you do for work?”

@Ravenclawjedi42

@Stormlightsong

@Scars of Hathsin

Chloris’ MAPID was going haywire. This was unfortunately what happened when she met new people. She mumbled a voice command to move the visual pop-ups when new data was being added to the database to the corners of her vision.

As she was paying attention to her own thoughts and her MAPID, she realized that she had once again missed someone talking to her.

Deciding to bite the bullet, Chlo replied. “Could you repeat that? I was a bit distracted.”

She realized that she could just have the MAPID play back the conversation, but that would just lead to further spacing out. And she wanted to at least appear slightly normal.

Sorry that I’ve been absent as of late! I will hopefully post something tomorrow, but the week has been busy.

3 hours ago, That1Cellist said:

Alright, I know this is a bit off topic, but I have to bring it up. What is your vocal range for singing then? How many octaves? I'm quite curious since I hadn't really thought about this sort of thing before. (And I haven't been hanging out with as many "Gay disasters" since I transferred schools and had to meet new people) So this isn't really something I'm all that familiar with.

Sorry if I said anything offensive. If I did I didn't mean it. I'm known for being pretty awkward, and I even have a penchant for accidentally making drug jokes because I don't tend to socialize well, and am pretty awkward with spoken language. Sorry again if I said anything that hurt anyone's feelings.

Alright I am so excited to hear this question. I worked hard on my vocal range, so Lord Ruler help me, I will show it off when I can.

my vocal range at the moment is a G1 to a B5, which is a bit over a 3 octave voice range. 

12 hours ago, Thaidakar the Ghostblood said:

Hey, y'all. I don't want to be offensive, I just really want to know and have a low selection of people who fall into the LGBTQ community nearby that I know and can talk to. Again, I'm not trying to offend anyone, I'm just trying to formulate ways that I can talk to people in better ways and be able to understand more of the world, which, as someone who wants to make a living as an author, is important. So please remember that.

I know this is primarily made as a gay club, but my question is about how people identify as genders that haven't been discovered (is that the right word?) before. My question might be a little offensive, but I truly don't mean harm here. I've been having a hard time fitting my question into adequate words for a minute or two and I'm scratching my head on this. Basically, what I'm wondering is why do y'all feel the need to change genders/transition/whatever term y'all have for it, when you could, potentially, when you could do a lot of the same things (and I'm just reaching into my mental bank here, so I could be really wrong about this entirely, please correct me) that you would want to do in that other gender in the gender you are/were?

Again, I'm not trying to be offensive, I just feel a desire to know. Kinda like my next step in trying to better understand and respect people. Please be patient with me. I may not ever see things the same way as y'all or understand completely, but, hey, at least I'm trying here? 

Anyways, sorry for making this a little long. Hope y'all have wonderful days. 

Alright, it’s time to share my view on this.

to start, I think it’s important to define how I see gender. Keep in mind that “gender” is largely nebulous, and is not easily defined by a universally agreed definition. To me, gender is the association with certain traits and characteristics with a certain lifestyle and group of people. Basically, it is a method of us sorting people into more mentally digestible boxes. If we see someone with short hair, a mustache, and a deep voice, we will assume they are strong, like women, play video games, and could be more aggressive. If we see someone with long hair, a higher voice, and wearing a dress, we will assume that they like fashion, are weaker, and are more submissive. Obviously this is an inaccurate look at people, but it is an averaging. Men on average are more interested in gaming than women, and women on average are more interested in fashion than men. 
 

Non-binary identities, genders that are outside of male or female. Generally, they have traits and qualities that are strongly associated with a certain gender, and have another trait that goes directly against that. Basically, they don’t fit into that typical mold, and choose to outwardly express that.
 

To me, my main starter point in my transition was that I didn’t want to be seen as male. It was incongruent with how I saw myself, and I wanted to change that. At first, I didn’t have any interest in being seen as female. It was something that was largely unimportant to me. I just didnt want to be seen as male. And so, I labeled myself as agender, meaning I didn’t identify with any gender. I wanted to be myself without others immediately assuming qualities to me.

However, as time went on, I realized I liked feminine looks and traits. I wanted to have a feminine voice, wear feminine things, and be seen as a girl. 
 

And so, here I am. I am a trans woman, with a name that matches my inner self, have been on feminizing hormones for over 2 years, and I have as feminine a voice as any other woman. And I couldn’t be happier.

Now, I still have non-feminine traits. I like women and am an avid gamer. These do not make me not a woman, but they go against what people expect a woman to be like. 
 

To wrinkle that further, I actually really like that I still have the ability to talk in my masculine voice. I enjoy the vocal control I have, and I appreciate that I can still sing in my lower range. I don’t like constantly speaking in my masculine voice, but I do like singing in it (as well as singing in a feminine voice). Does that make me less of a woman? I don’t think so. However, I still don’t feel like I am fully a woman. I think of myself as being around 75% feminine, with some masculine traits. That’s why I am also comfortably in that non-binary umbrella. However, there are those that have those qualities that wouldn’t consider that they’re nonbinary. In the end, that comes down to personal preference.

Many in the nonbinary umbrella want to be themselves, free of societal expectations on gender. Many feel joy from having clear masculine and feminine traits, and that’s awesome. And sure, they could still call themselves a man or a woman, but that goes against what they seek to be; someone without those annoying societal stereotypes.

17 minutes ago, RoyalBeeMage said:

 

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Corbeau is currently in his apartment with Keshi in the Mistwarrens.

Chloris took in what was going on. This Asylum was working for a Hemalurgist, and was decidedly odd. The radiant, however, seemed quite calm of the insults Asylum hurls. A fight looked like it was about to break out.

For now, however, Chlo turned to Eza. “Do you also work for Asylum’s boss? Do you know who they are?”

Val, you should not be digging into this. This is none of our business. We should just leave.

However, the food had not yet arrived, and she was getting hungry. It was worth staying for that, if nothing else.

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54 minutes ago, Brik_head said:

Hey, sorry i've been inactive for the past while! between college and my job I really don't have time for this at the moment. My next semester starts in April, so hopefully i'll have more time then, but for now if you wish to use my character Flint as an NPC you may, just don't kill him, chop off a limb or anything like that.

Again sorry for the absence, I hope you all are having fun!

 

At the moment, we have left your character in the scene, just not interacted with them. 
 

It’s all good! This little roleplay is nowhere near as important as the majority of life things. And I do appreciate the update, even if it’s a tad late.

21 minutes ago, Treamayne said:

Food for thought - going one step further. What if:

• Red = Something foreign added to "corrupt" (change) investiture
• Black = Something removed to corrupt (change) investiture

 

This is an interesting thought! 
 

Now, Ruin’s big magic system is Hemalurgy, and while it doesn’t really involve his signature black, it is still connected to him. And there, It is corrupting through grafting someone’s spiritweb onto someone else’s. Now, you could argue that it has to remove something to add to it, but I think the biggest thing with Hemalurgy is the augmentation, not the excising.

and @alder24, would that mean that Ruin is the shard of (black oriented) Corruption? I’m frankly a fan of this notion.

I’m right there with ya @Returned. Is Wayne sexist? Maybe. Is he self centered and doesn’t respect boundaries? Certainly. Does that make him a bad person? I wouldn’t say so. He’s a flawed character, and that’s a good thing. Personally, he’s one of my faves. A silly guy that has issues. 
 
Does the fact that I like his character mean that I have to agree with all of his actions and personality traits? Of course not. Personally, I like that he has those traits, and I appreciate that he’s problematic. And I like that Brandon is careful to address that he is problematic. Fictional characters have that luxury where real people don’t. Fictional characters’ beliefs are stemmed directly from a real person, and in this case Brandon has established those personality traits as flaws, not good qualities. Wayne, sexist or not, is a little guy, and I appreciate how Sanderson built him.

16 minutes ago, RoyalBeeMage said:

titan of evil? ruin? it was something like that.

one of the fates

was she an underworld nymph associated with the river Cocytus. i might have gotten the river wrong

a nymph goddess of flowers? i don't really remember her to much

was he one of the three cyclopses who forges Zues's lightning bolts

1 hour ago, alder24 said:

I don't think the WoB says that. It says that because of their interaction on Scadrial, they choose to view themselves as black and white - this would happen all around Cosmere, not just on Scadrial. Ruin's blackness was born on Scadrial, but once it appeared, it was showing up wherever Ruin's investiture was. 

 

I really like that. 

Woah! Alder not shutting down one of my theories! A rarity indeed . 
 

Do you have any theories on how Midnight Essence and Ruin are connected?

13 minutes ago, Quantus said:

Devils' advocate statement, but WOB says Ruin's accociation with the Color Black is restricted to Scadrial and that those two Polarized to White/Black because of how much of direct opposites they were.  So, despite the fact that Nightblood is confirmed to have Ruin in him, the presence of color Black might be coincidence for Midnight Essence. more like how Blue Honor and Green Cultivation have a whole spectrum of different colored Radiant Orders.  

 

 

Counterpoint: that’s an 11 year old WoB that might not be reflective of current shenanigans. Also, he’s kinda set up the trend of having shards correspond to different colors. It is completely possible that Ruin’s color is some color other than black, but from the books, that’s the clearest color he’s associated with.

Nonetheless, I think that the point still stands. Nightblood and the Father Machine have some sort of connection to Ruin, likely through nature of their command and intent, and they are also associated with black. They also seem to have connection to Midnight Essence, with shared themes of mimicry and corruption, in addition to being jet black. 
 

Something’s going on with these four ideas, and I haven’t quite figured out what it is.

1 minute ago, Treamayne said:

Should that not go both directions? People of a gender feel they know better than a person of a different gender what that person should want/need/do?

well, if we're getting into the weeds, the problem comes from assuming that because you are a man, you would know better than them because they are a woman. The generalization that gender is the main determining factor is what's the sexist part, not the patronizing of the person in general.

If you want real world examples, look no further than any sort of women running for any sort of government office. There are a whole lot of questions regarding qualifications and capability of the person, which is really not questioned with as much fervor in male politicians. A very common talking point is "oh, this person is gaining office or getting voted for just because they are a woman, not because she is qualified for the job." That sort of thinking is indirectly stating that being a woman makes you inherently less likely to be qualified than men.

But I digress. Wayne has unconscious sexist tenancies, and it was probably put in there because Brandon wanted to accurately portray the time period he was emulating, and also kind of act as an example of a character with much less overt sexism in stories.

16 minutes ago, AonEne said:

Wayne is absolutely sexist. I'll see if I can come back with more explanation in a bit, but I wanted to throw out something just so any lurkers wouldn't think there's only one opinion on this - he expressed sexist behaviors and it wasn't okay.

There is much more to sexism than "I hate women and think they're stupid". Sexism in the real world far more often looks like "women are great~, I love flirting with them, and they don't mind haha" or "the way I treat this person doesn't stem directly from them being a woman, but I'd be treating them differently or better if they were a man". The way he treats Marasi, Steris, Allriandre, Ranette, and women in general is motivated by several things, but sexism is interwoven. This is explicitly addressed in TLM (to varying peoples' levels of satisfaction...) but that does not mean it was not happening earlier. Brandon intentionally wrote him this way. 

100% to this. Wayne, while not explicitly sexist, has at least internal sexism. It is of course a product of the 1920s society the book is set in, but is still intentionally established. He sees women as dame's that need someone to help them along, and that that person is him. You can especially see this with his treatment of Ranette, with the blatant disregard for her clear non-interest in Wayne. This is a very common thing with sexism, that being that a woman doesn't really understand what they want, and that a man knows better.

Does he improve by the end of TLM? Yes, certainly. But the sexist undertones are an important aspect of his character, and was intentionally crafted as a flaw.

Hey all! I just now found out that this exists! I am an avid Greek Myth nerd, and try to work in as much Greek Mythology as I can in any of my creations. I mean, I named myself Athene IRL, sooooooo... 

I have gotten into writing poems after quarantine, and a lot of them a Greek myth oriented. In fact, I've posted my Greek inspired poems in the Creator's Corner!

Here's the link, for those interested!

I've also done my best to incorporate Greek Myths in my characters over in the Alleyverse (Check it out if you haven't already!!). As a fun little game, without looking it up, do you know the references to my characters and why I picked those names?

• Perses (not Perseus! )-My first character, is now the destructive pseudo-inquisitor that is the main villain
• Clotho-An older, now retired character that was an A-Gold savant
• Chloris-An ex-Edgedancer that is now a midnight essence spore eater
• Minthe-The manipulative midnight spore that has infected Chloris
• Arges (not Argus)-A minor NPC pewterarm that secretly loves geeking out about medieval weaponry

Just now, RoyalBeeMage said:

i would like to think that becaue this is brandon we are talking about there is something that we are missing. the aether and by association midnight essence based from what i understand from tress predate the shatering.

Yes. Midnight Essence is a universal cosmere phenomena, and has existed for quite some time. However, that doesn't mean that it is not connected to Ruin in some way. For example, I frankly don't think Ruin had any direct control over Nightblood's creation. I think that when Nightblood was created, through its very nature, some of Ruin's investiture was implanted in it.

An unrelated connection that I have made: The Father Machine was built to mimic the Yoki-Hijo. Nightblood was created to mimic sharblades. Does that idea of mimicry have any connection? I don't really know, but it is another similarity between them and Midnight Essence.