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Yeah that's the self-contradictory WoB I'm talking about. It both says that there would be no reaction and that it would explode. I'm not sure how else to interpret him saying it's not from the division of the metals. Can you elaborate on how you're reading it? Sure, but that wasn't the claim, it was that two regular Investitures can in some cases react the same way (which we seemingly also see with Vin killing Ati in Era 1). Wdym?

We did learn about a month after the last post in this thread that the Stormfather did know about Jezrien's death, so either Stormfather mentioning it got skipped for redundancy reasons or he never said anything. Hard to say which, given Brandon also skips over Adolin and Renarin learning about Evi's death or Wax telling everyone he had a memory from Kelsier's perspective in the coin, so it would not be unprecedented. On this, I will note that the below quote from Oathbringer chapter 65 suggests he temporarily grants the power of Adhesion to anyone he gives a vision to. So it does seem to me that Gavilar probably would have a bond to the Stormfather at that point, even if he says otherwise. (As a side note, he's oddly reticent about telling Dalinar that tidbit. I'm not really sure why, but it stood out to me.) I definitely think this is a lie, regardless of whether it's the Stormfather or a faker, because of the hesitation when he speaks about it: Regarding this, I will point to Words of Radiance chapters 82 & 83 where the Stormfather speaks normally (no caps) to Dalinar even before the bond. It's a long exchange, so I'll just quote the part where it switches to showcase that he uses both modes: I will more generally add that we know the Stormfather's behavior in recent years is different from how he was before, because according to Rhythm of War chapter 87 the honorspren and Kalak believe him to be "erratic" nowadays: This is actually entirely plausible to me because of what the W&W Ars Arcanum says about Connection: That said, this is one of the stronger posts I've seen on the Stormfaker theory so far, so props @teknopathetic for that. Also, sorry about replying to an old thread, but since someone else already rezzed it I figured this was the best place to continue discussing the idea for now. Edit: Why the heck are the next page buttons in my post?? They aren't shown in the editor... Technology is bizarre sometimes. Edit 2: Oh, it's paginating the comment at the horizontal line. Well that's new. Guess I'm removing it.

Do we know this? The only WoB I remember on the topic contradicts itself and says both ways, but I may have missed another. It feels notable to me that the anti-tones sound completely normal to people not Invested by the Shard it opposes, though. The book specifically says the opposite: Related thing I've been wondering about—we know that the reason Stormlight glows in a gem is because it's plugged into the Spiritual and drawing stuff out: Presumably it's "screwed into" the Shard... but if so what is anti-Stormlight screwed into?

Asked Brandon about this during the spoiler stream and his reaction was all but confirmation! Didn't even let the question get past the first sentence ("In Way of Kings, Hoid's monologue talks about three great talents: invention, artistry, and intellect.") before saying he knew where it was headed and whoever made that observation should pat themselves on the back because they're very smart, lol. (I think you're the first person I saw suggest the theory, going off search results by date.)

Even then I could buy us just not having seen the effects yet, but that still wouldn't answer how he got it without raising the other questions above about if Leras had access, and I have a hard time seeing Kelsier giving up a god-killer weapon to Hoid in time for Hoid to give it to Sigzil. (My current wild guess is that Frost has it and will bring it over in Book Five, based on a couple odd wordings, but most likely Hoid just has it tucked away somewhere or even bears it still.)

Perhaps relevant: in the center of the highstorm, singer viewpoints describe all of the Rhythms as playing the same steady beat. I could easily see this being Honor's tone and it resonating with the gemstones in a way that allows Light to Invest them like you suggest. I'd guess this is more to do with infusing gemhearts than Adonalsium specifically planning for people to store Light in spheres, though.

I will say, just speaking from my own personal observations: I have seen more new readers upset because they think they're missing out due to how the fandom overemphasizes connections than because they actually are. I've run across several posts from people complaining about not understanding Restares/Kalak because of lack of exposure to wider Cosmere lore, yet I've never run across anyone complain about not understanding Thaidakar for that reason unless they've already been told they should feel that way. And I regularly saw posts complaining about not understanding TwinSoul because they hadn't read [insert some series they assume he's from here], but very few about Moonlight. Generally Brandon writes the actual cross-series references in a way that goes over new readers' heads and so when they keep hearing "you need X, Y, and Z to understand A" they attribute legitimate questions within the individual series themselves to "crossovers" instead of enjoying the mystery for what it is. [Secret Project Four general stuff:] Obviously this is a broad generalization, and I'm sure there are a nonzero amount of people who have genuinely felt the experience was hurt by this, but I think it's significantly fewer than it's made out to be and to an extent a lot of this concern ironically causes that FOMO where it wasn't otherwise present. (Lost Metal does have a lot of flaws, but I think for the most part they have to do with a) Brandon dropping all of Bands's plotlines and b) the ending being Era 3 setup, not the crossover content.)

Agreed, TwinSoul refers to Dlavil's "sister who ran amok on Roshar" and they consider Roshar one of the systems they can't safely access (but phrased in the odd way of "if you count Roshar"... perhaps because the danger is less something inherent and more a rogue wing of the organization hunting them if they visit?).

I've been thinking about an idea sort of adjacent to this (sort of, mainly in that it offers a way for it to be related without being directly the Dawnshard itself). It's a pretty common theory that the Shards and Dawnshards are related in some way, which is a line of thinking Brandon has encouraged. If this is true, and if "Survive" is one of the Commands, it seems pretty likely that Preservation would be associated with that one. So perhaps it's simply the fundamental Command underlying Preservation shining through, potentially related to the way Shu-Korath and Shu-Dereth focus on "unity" as their fundamental tenet rather than the names of Devotion or Dominion? (Though Shu-Keseg and its descendants are weird in general because they first appear so late after the Splintering of the Selish Shards yet line up so well.)

We know it's not one he'd revealed by 2018, so it'd have to be either one of the four from RoW or one of the final two. My guess would be Invention since there's the big math focus, and because steampunk world. [Yumi and the Nightmare Painter spoilers below]

It wouldn't, but I do think the magic school setting works better on bizarro Earth, since that is itself a bizarro version of a familiar IRL thing. (Plus, how else will he make his childhood home into the fortress of evil?) Doesn't mean I'm not going to be sad for the rest of time, though I still insist that Rithmatics is not just a Cosmere-style magic but rather the quintessential Cosmere-style magic, so it being non-Cosmere is a big fat RIP.

Right before the bolded parts, he specifies recipient is what he means by it. Brandon tends to repeat himself a lot, so I didn't take "placing the spike in the right place and going into the right place" as particularly significant, myself. And in the other WoB he explicitly states that it's just the recipient that matters when asked "the donor, the recipient, or both". This does contradict some older WoBs, but he changes his mind sometimes (see the ancient "Preservation changed Allomancy to make atium Mistings" WoB), and from what I recall the books themselves are not explicit about it either way which leaves it open to those sorts of changes in direction. In theory yup, wonder if we'll see controversy over this in Era 3 as this gets discovered. Also significantly nerfs healers like Miles...

While some older comments suggest that there are bind points on both sides, the latest word is that position only matters on the recipient:

Do we ever see an Inquisitor use Allomantic electrum? I can't recall. Either way, it seems likely to me that there would be multiple valid bind points for each metal (since we don't see Inquisitors walking around with earrings for their bronze I don't think), so it's possible that they would attribute some bind points to electrum and some to atium when really they're all electrum.

My bad then, must have conflated your arguments with someone else's.

I think he's Ascending to the power in the highstorm, and does so every time he seizes control of it. Bondsmith oaths are centered on unity, and Wyndle implies the spren are the Words, meaning the Stormfather's nature would inherently be about unity. Plus, look at the line before it: And in Rhythm of War, we learn that when Dalinar speaks while riding the storm he speaks it aloud like normal visions but when he speaks as the storm he doesn't, almost as if he's no longer acting through his body in those moments.

He blames Evi and insists he doesn't feel bad about her for years afterwards. OB 88:

I like the idea it's analogous to lerasium. Lerasium lets you burn any metal, a lerasium alloy lets you burn that metal (or at least some do). Atium lets you steal any metal, maybe an atium alloy lets you steal that metal (or at least maybe some do). I doubt they ever bothered to try for Allomantic gold, so they would steal Allomantic electrum successfully, think it stole Allomantic "atium", and thus decide it steals temporal Allomancy in general.

Oh for sure, I'd be very surprised if they don't. I can still have this for now though

Nope, the effect in Era 2's Ars Arcanum is just "See Other People’s Futures", while the poster says We don't actually know what an atium-electrum spike would do, so it's possible that that would work, but yeah there's a good chance he has a pure atium spike. What I mean is that we don't see the creation anywhere (i.e. we don't see Marsh go in and stab a Mistborn with it, afaik), so it feels weird to me to call out that we see the effect at the end of the book specifically if the comment just means that spike that he has the whole novel. Again, Peter explicitly says the poster lists the effect. Sounds to me like he's confirming that someone does know at the time it's made, which makes sense given whoever made it has apparently experimented with both atium and lerasium alloys enough that they know the general pattern for their effects. (Personally, I suspect it's an Era 3 document, since I don't think we ever had a time period confirmed, and Brandon had it made before he conceived of Era 2? But I may be wrong.) Wouldn't be surprised if he did, since he knew all sixteen normal metals and yet told nobody else about almost half of them. Otoh, also wouldn't be surprised if he didn't, since surely he would've put the recipe for an alloy more useful than malatium in the cache if so.

The book is contradictory here - at one point, it's explicitly stated to be not metallic, at other points it's stated that it is.

He says this in the same sentence as saying it's on the Allomancy poster, it would be odd to me if he weren't referring to the Allomantic effect. He also specifies the end of Hero of Ages, but we never see an atium spike created and while Marsh has one, he presumably has it for the entire book, not just the ending. Brandon has not confirmed that the Allomancy poster refers to the alloy, just that what people in Era 1 believed to be atium is the alloy (but the poster is clearly not from Era 1, as it lists cadmium, bendalloy, chromium, and nicrosil, and also talks about alloys plural of both atium and lerasium). I can't see any other way to read this besides as Peter confirming that the poster's description does apply to pure atium, and further suggesting (but not outright confirming this part) that the retcon may date all the way back to when the poster was designed in 2008. Yeah, I'm curious as well. I think it should be perfectly viable, myself, but if Brandon wanted to prevent Allomancer dolphins he could probably find a reason to do so. Ah, good point. So more that pure atium's effect is a... well, pure version of what powers like electrum do, perhaps?

Yeah, same. [Rhythm of War] There's actually a bit of a weird WoB that may or may not be related:

Peter's since implied this retcon may date all the way back to 2008: So I think there's a reasonable chance of the "A Mistborn isn't likely to have a tie to that type of Investiture" WoB being with the retcon in mind, but probably gonna try to get clarification next spoiler stream. Same Word of Peter also says we saw pure atium's effect at the end of Hero of Ages and the description on the table of it as "an expansive vision of the future" is accurate, so seems to me like it may be what happened to Elend when he burned atium and duralumin (why burning duralumin would purify it, I have no idea).