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    He was, Dreaming-though-Awake mentions it (RoW 24):
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    Past Theory: What we know as "atium" in the original trilogy is actually an alloy of pure atium and electrum. Current Theory 1: Taravangian will bring the full barrier storm over from Braize and settle it across Roshar as the true Everstorm, allowing the Fused to be reborn instantly and in any location with a willing singer, spurring a very temporary reset of the Oathpact to stop Odium from conquering the entire planet before the contest locks the borders. Ishar's plan is to use spren for this as they are believed to be incapable of breaking their word the way the human Heralds did, hence his experiments. However, only Syl is human enough to survive the process due to her deepened bond and nature as honorspren, so she will have to hold the entire Oathpact herself and fulfill the "burdens of nine" Death Rattle. Also Ba-Ado-Mishram might take over the storm or something, I haven't decided on the details yet but I think her ability to provide Voidlight will be crucial after the death of the Stormfather. Interestingly the Death Rattles speak of the Everstorm having a stormwall and the eternal storm Rattles often reference rain, so perhaps it will take on some properties of the highstorm because of... Current Theory 2: Taravangian will maneuver Dalinar into breaking his oath and attack him to take the Shard of Honor, combining it with Odium. This was Cultivation's intent behind "bear this power with honor" all along, with his boon and curse being designed such that he will oscillate between the equivalent of Harmony and Discord in a controlled way rather than Sazed's current mad spiral (Navani and Eshonai each note that the Rhythm of War contains the duality of both intense war and quiet peace).
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    Perhaps the scream is not "ow ow ow Herald dying hurts" but rather "GOD STORMING DAMMIT CRAP CRAP CRAP"? Keep in mind that anti-Investiture is far more restrictive. Nightblood instantly obliterates anything it scratches even a tiny bit, but unless you're an immortal anti-Light isn't actually much more dangerous than a normal dagger to the heart, and even if you are one it's not an insta-kill. In the future there might be more dangerous ways to use it in technology, but when a Desolation is coming now... (Of course, Vasher doesn't need to know the teensy little fact that Gavilar is trying to cause it in the first place.) Makes me think of the coin (RoW 21): My guess is he was trying to do this but the process didn't work to recode it to another Shard (since as alder pointed out he hasn't worked out how to Awaken with Stormlight yet), and from there he ended up working out anti-Investiture as almost an accident. Crack theory: When she realized she wasn't strong enough on her own she began to seek out the Dawnshards, which is why Honor was raving about them and what she was pushing toward Feverstone for, so Kalak and Nale decided she needed to be stopped before Ashyn 2.0 happened. Perhaps she approached them for help (since they might know where the Ashynite ones went) and they pretended to agree but then went to the Radiants, hence why Kalak says they betrayed her?
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    I've moved this to the general Cosmere forum, since it's focused on more than just Stormlight.
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    I think it's actually the Way of Kings leatherbound, which is also in the Update #2 concept art they've been occasionally using in promo material.
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    More information about "Stormlight 5 Previews Coming July 29th!"
    THE TIME IS UPON US! Well, close enough anyway. Reactor Magazine (formerly Tor.com) will be releasing one to three chapters of Wind and Truth every Monday at 11 A.M. Eastern Time, beginning on July 29th and continuing until the book comes out on December 6th! They'll go up under the dedicated column on Reactor's website weekly. More details and overview of past updates below the cut. The current marketing blurb is short and sweet, though naturally full of massive spoilers for the first four books: The US cover has not been revealed yet, so let's take a gander at Gollancz's UK cover instead: (The artist was not listed, but historically they have hired Sam Green for the Cosmere, so likely him? If anyone knows for sure please let us know so we can assign proper credit!) As per usual we will limit discussion to specific subforums here and spoiler channels on our Discord server until six months after the book's release to give everyone a chance to read it. Unfortunately we will not be doing weekly chapter reactions on our YouTube channel the way we did for Rhythm of War and The Lost Metal, our staffers are simply too busy this time around. However, Reactor will be running their own readalong with beta readers Lyndsey Luther, Drew McCaffrey, and Paige Vest—make sure to give them your love two weeks from now! Oh, and if you haven't been keeping up with the news, we actually already have a few readings from an early draft: Brandon has also put out a couple general updates on Reddit with a bit of structural info and some fun concept art: Update One, Update #2 (if I must suffer the inconsistent title formatting then you all must join me...) Normally I end with some cleverly crafted call-to-action that drives engagement in the comments (do we even have an algorithm to boost?), so: Book! BOOK! Booooook? Book. Yes, that sounds about right. *sage nodding*
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    Doruse seems to deny that, though: Elsewhere Brandon's said that there are two: And that the main story was about multiple people becoming Dawnshards: So it seems pretty likely Jerick is tied to one, though might not have taken it into himself yet.
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    The Set is a complete and utter mess, I wouldn't call it "organized" except in name only. Even Autonomy's own orders don't have to be followed as long as you do your disobedience well. In Lost Metal, people pretty consistently use the term "individualism" to describe the Shard, so that's probably a good place to start too.
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    I've moved this thread to the Cosmere forum as it contains spoilers for a lot more than just Stormlight Archive.
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    I don't understand the question, can you try to rephrase it?
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    Definitely some people did yeah. I don't know if it was everyone or not, the legend's got some holes (for example it seems like all of the Five were involved with fainlife rather than just Xeth, and it doesn't really explain how dragons relate to all this), but there's also clearly some truth since Drephrast references Aronack destroying the world once and Frost references humans being forbidden magic nowadays. I took that as dragons, just because that's the group that's neither humans nor Sho Del and Xisis has some wild powers, but true Frost was probably around back then.
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    I'm talking about the part where she says she would have sensed it. I don't think so. I mean, yes their powers are probably "flavored" by them, Hoid can (mostly) only grow while Jerick can (mostly) only destroy yeah, but Frost says seeing axi is the normal mode of function: Curious whether all usage was aligned with one Dawnshard or another or if there's a "neutral" version out there. Aronack may imply the gods can grant it: But I don't know if he knows Jerick has microkinesis or just knows he has a strong Cognitive/Spiritual side generally, still need to read through properly. The ancient tree thing does seem likely to me. Wonder if there's a whole set of "firsts"—First Gem, First Tree, etc. Probably not Frost, he seems just as surprised about her powers as he is about Topaz and Jerick, but could be one of the Five yeah.
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    Hm, weird, she also thinks this after that (underline mine): Minor continuity error from the lack of beta reading, I guess? If it's not a Dawnshard then I wonder why the powers are so similar and where they come from. Wish we could ask Brandon but I doubt he remembers Yeah, at least to me "nuclear bonds" implies "strong force", not "electromagnetism". But electromagnetism for the lightning is right.
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    Would her father have reacted so dramatically if that were all?
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    To the person who reported this for Sunlit Man spoilers: appreciate the incredibly fast reaction, but OP actually did post there and I moved the thread literally like two minutes ago because we're in the middle of deleting that forum That's some real perfect timing lol.
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    I've merged in the other thread that was under the General Brandon Discussion forum, as we would prefer to avoid double-posting like that and this thread seemed like the more fitting place to centralize discussion.
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    I don't think Connection is enough on its own, for a similar reason as to why Allik has an accent: If a Terrisman moves to Hallandren and taps blank Connection their soul will think they grew up there, but it will still know they're ethnically Terris. IMO Treamayne is probably right that Identity is more relevant here.
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    Jerick describes it in terms of a force: And Frost describes it in terms of nuclear bonds in the same conversation you cite: It might take Jerick longer to first do than manipulating axi directly did, but compared to Topaz's poor light scattering it's pretty dramatic and seems to come relatively intuitively. Yeah agreed. I wonder if we can put together a color wheel of sorts, where each Dawnshard has a core zone of power but can dip into things on either side where the lines between different concepts are fuzzy Ryalla can primarily manipulate light and sound waves, but might be able to learn more. After all, everything is (sorta) a wave really. Topaz can primarily rearrange axi to match their Spiritual shadow, but he can also mess with photons a little bit like Ryalla (the rainbow), and can speed up/slow down axi a little bit like Jerick (lighting the candles). Jerick can primarily move axi apart, but he can also see the sound wave which touches on Ryalla's powers, and might be able to learn to reconnect axi a little bit like Topaz. After all, all interactions do involve axial forces. While I did three because that's how many characters we know, I wouldn't be too surprised if there were five (I don't think the gods are Dawnshards but they could align with them or come from them). Perhaps there would've been one centered around manipulating the spiritweb for physical effect as suggested here, and then another based around.... something else axial idk? Ooh interesting, I like that.
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    Fair point. Still, Jerick seems able to manipulate forces quite well, so I don't think it's a thing that's primarily her domain only. In the modern cosmere Illumination is considered "the Surge of Light, Sound, and Various Waveforms", maybe Ryalla's powers are based around an early form of that distinction too? (Frost makes a reference to "nuclear bonds" that seems to suggest Brandon thought electromagnetism was responsible for holding subatomic particles together at the time he wrote Dragonsteel, so we should keep in mind that there might also be somewhat questionable physics logic at play lol.) I was going off this line in Chapter 20: But if there's later context that contradicts this then nvm. That fits what he says in tWoK as well, that it "became completely worthless for my wearing it". That is incredibly ironic given the nature of Topaz's powers. I think him watching over her is more personal, since he doesn't offer to go keep an eye on Jerick until Ryalla says she's going to, despite knowing by then that Jerick has "the power of destruction". He also says in the quote above that Ryalla should not be able to do magic, which is weird if he knows she has a connection to something like a Dawnshard.
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    At the time Prime was written, the Lords like Aronack were going to be the ones killing Adonalsium, the idea of the Vessels being former mortals came later. My guess right now is it could have to do with what Aronack talks to Doruse about: Perhaps there was something bad coming that Adonalsium was going to allow, and his kids would turn against him over his inaction? Aronack and perhaps Selonis probably take advantage of the situation for power and worship, Ethain seems like he'd want to defend the Sho Del whom he views as his children, Doruse may want to save people after sitting and watching for so long, and who knows about Rafete.
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    Supposedly there are only two, but then in the introduction Brandon instead says one so he might just be forgetting the number lol. Frost does lump her abilities in with those of Topaz and Jerick (at least from what I've read, haven't had time to go through it fully yet but did look at the search results for a bunch of terms like "microkinesis"), even though they work differently, so her also being one would make sense. I don't think there's a distinction like that, Jerick is able to manipulate the electromagnetic force just as easily as axi when he makes the lightning bolt. Interestingly Ryalla is able to use "sonic microkinesis" too, so her ability isn't just photons, but then all the microkinetic abilities seem kind of messy in what they encompass compared to Brandon's later more structured systems. Something to do with perceiving more generally, maybe? How would that work with the idea that the cast "unwittingly become" Dawnshards, especially since Hoid's already got his immortality and inability to harm? It seems more likely to me that the topaz contains one (we know the title "bearer of the first gem" is related) and the "source of power" Doruse was watching over that Jerick somehow got his power from is another, personally.
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    He's not onscreen, to be clear, but characters mention him a few times and he seems to be doing the same "speeding up the development of one particular nation of which I am head" shtick. He comes up in Chapters 2 and 6, it looks like.
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    He is in there, king of Rens/Renz.
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    Unfortunately I don't think we'll find much in there directly, because at the time Prime was written the Shatterers were planned to be the demigods like Aronack. It's possible that after making that change Brandon then decided to take characters from the original outline and use them as Vessels, but Jerick is no longer planned to be in the final novel, Brandon mentions "you'll see a proto-character who has become Shallan" which seems to imply Ryalla won't either, and Tzern presumably became Dalinar since we know he came from a Dragonsteel character, so it's hard to say if any of these will even be around when it releases. Not to say there's no point in theorizing, we do know Bat'Chor at least will still exist so he hasn't erased the entire cast, Hoid did still get decapitated so some of the events are still planned, and Aronack might still be a weird god dude (he's in Liar, which was probably written after Brandon had decided the Vessels would be mostly mortals). Just a thing to keep in mind when wondering which characters will make the cut. One curious thing: Slonis, the goddess of mystery and childbirth, is known as "the Mother of the World", and if the Shatterers were meant to be these demigods then she's a good candidate as Aronack's weird murdery cult leader sister. This title shows up in Stormlight for most likely Cultivation, the mysterious withdrawn goddess of life, an immortal and one of the original Vessels. Might she have developed into Koravari, or at least might Brandon have borrowed some of the ideas from Selonis's character when making her?
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    @Frumpy Sunlit Man is still in the spoiler period and discussion of its contents must be hidden and labeled.
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