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I'll say this a few times in my response, but I'll only post the image once It really isn't. I mean killing people sure, but war is an entire other ballpark. Assassination on the other hand is not. Even Sadeas in his younger days called it cowardice and a disgrace. It isn't normal; it might happen, but everyone acknowledges that it's wrong. Cool motive, still murder. And no it would not have put her in a better position as if Fen wasn't a traitor and found out(as she did) then Fen would rightly feel betrayed(as she did). Even if the assassins were successful Theylanah would appoint a new ruler who would have even more reason to be against Jasnah. It can only result in more problems than solutions. These weren't just idle daydreams, she was ready and willing to put them into effect. She was one second away from giving the order to kill Aesudan, or killing Renarin. I don't think going to someone's home and sitting outside with a rifle trained on them, and stopping only because a car crash occurred suddenly absolves you of your attempted murder. And so maybe she could talk to him. "Hey, Renarin, what's going on with your spren?" "Hey, Renarin, it looks like you're seeing the future. Is there something you need to tell me?" "Renarin, what is going on?" That way if he is being used against his will, or if his spren isn't from Odium, or if Jasnah is just wrong, she can help, instead of just killing him. And I would agree. I could see the argument for it, though I would disagree. Since we don't know why he killed Adonalsium I'll refrain from judgement at the moment, just as I did for Jasnah and Aesudan. If it's the same lame excuses that Jasnah had I would agree. Well Ruin and Retribution aren't evil anymore than gravity is, and I would hardly call such a trope naive. A bit more on topic I doubt Brandon intended for Jasnah to be a monster, as he says that Jasnah is the closest character to himself. The fact remains she preforms the actions of a monster. It really isn't acceptable in her society. There's a reason Fen is so horrified when she found out, and why Jasnah went through so much effort to hide what she was doing.

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I honestly hadn't thought about what she would do there, but you're right. I'm of the opinion that it doesn't matter how traumatic your backstory is: murder is still wrong. I didn't say she couldn't repent, just that at this moment she's a monster. And the Dalinar that burnt the Rift was a murderous madman, and yes evil. However, the biggest difference I see between them is that Dalinar was sorry for what he did. It ate him up, Jasnah on the other hand, when confronted about her actions just responded with: Well that's what anyone would do in my situation. Again she could change, but she's still a garbage excuse for a human being.

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They probably wouldn't be able to do that Going with some form of paired device for my life I'd probably go for a pair of rings. One of me and one for my future wife, Emberdark spoilers

TLDR: Jasnah bears a greater resemblance to Meridas Amaram than she does to anything resembling a hero, and her father was wise trying to pair them. Ever since WaT I have been forced to reevaluate my opinions of Jasnah. She went from being pragmatic with a hard edge to one of the most morally repugnant characters in the Stormlight Archive, and comparing her to a hero is inarguably laughable. Given how little we have seen PoVs from her I intend to base this off of a few key moments to highlight Jasnah's sickening lack of morality. Going in mostly chronological order the first thing that comes to mind was hiring an assassin to kill Aesudan. Early on this was played for mystery and suspense, but the reveal in WaT that Jasnah was just scared of her own sister-in-law really speaks volumes. When it comes to inconvenient people, even those in her own family, Jasnah's answer is murder. Not speaking to them, not patience, not understanding and compromise, murder. Some might bring up Jasnah killing the footpads in WoK next, but I actually have no problems with that. What I actually wanted to look at was Jasnah's interactions with Renarin in OB. When she found out that Renarin had predicted the Everstorm Jasnah begins to watch him. Unto itself, that isn't too unusual or noteworthy, and honestly, some of the others should have done the same. However, when she confirmed that Renarin was bonded to a corrupted spren Jasnah's first response was to try and kill him. We can confirm this as we have Renarin's PoV from this encounter, Jasnah hadn't even spoken to him about this earlier. I don't think Brandon took the time in the book to go over just how evil that actually is. She didn't ask Renarin for an explanation, didn't ask if he was hurt or in danger, nothing. For her it was as simple as: Renarin has a corrupted spren, therefore I should kill him. If Renarin hadn't looked at her at that moment I fully believe that she would have done it, which Renarin's visions confirm. The final straw, and what finally got me to realize this pattern was the debate in WaT, when we found out the truth about Aesudan as well as Jasnah's plans to assassinate Fen as well as other coalition leaders. This was the ultimate confirmation to me, Jasnah doesn't have friends, merely useful tools. She doesn't believe in allies, just people who have the same enemies. Well is she labeled a heretic because to her nothing is sacred, and nothing is off limits. Many have compared Jasnah to Taravangian, including myself. However, lately I have come to disagree. Taravangian cares about the people around him. He has friends and allies that he takes care of even to the point of creating a massive weakness for himself to do so. Jasnah on the other hand only cares for herself and her goals. She might care about her family, but to her they are replaceable, something that can be thrown aside if they become inconvenient. She is far closer to Meridas Amaram, and Moash. Jasnah is easily one of the most morally reprehensible characters in the Stormlight Archive and I hope she gets brought to Justice.

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The last post is from 2021.

Dang two days is long enough. Genuine question for you, what word proscessers do you use?

Hey, this thread has been inactive for two years. You probably didn't see that, I've done it a few times myself, just something to keep in mind for the future.

The Intensifier shot a beam of investiture at it to no ill effects, and Cakoban while invested enough to float on the Unsea was picked up by the thing. Which I don't entirely understand, probably the difference between anti and negative investiture stuff.

I'd imagine you have the Dakwara extend it's fangs and then hold still. You can then move Starlight and run the manacle along the fang to destroy it.

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You do know that chainsaws were invented to preform surgery right? And Dusk had already shown that he has fine control over the Dakwara, to the point that he can get it to pick a ship up and move it without killing the occupants.

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How about some more WaT

I'm curious as to what you consider so spoilery in ES. I can understand reading it before TLM, but WS, SoD, and SoS don't make much sense to me.

Maybe your dog. If you cats are anything like mine your life is only as important as your ability to deliver food.

It doesn't really feel all that different. The weird part is realizing that unlike in real life you're popular on the shard.

Huh, I was not aware of the second. How did you hear about the first one then?

This thread is dead? No no no, that won't do at all. The shard Frustation formed a body over the once vibrant thread of Sanderson memes, and began to speak, "Arise thread long since dead, and haunt the forums from whence thou wast created!" General Brandon WaT