Frustration

Some WoBs on this topic

That was a stromstrider. They're some kind of massive spren that moves in the storm. We don't know much more about them.

Would anyone like some booknerdium? It's my shardmetal and allows you to store Victory. *Taps victory* *wins*

Welcome to the shard. This topic has been inactive for three years, the shard discourages posting on topics that old.

Retcon stands for retroactive continuity, that means a change in the story after the fact, not something that was intended to begin with that was revealed later. Plot twists like Kelsier being alive are not Retcons. The only actual retcon in the Cosmere I can think of was Szeth's death in WoR. Initially, Kaladin killed him with a shardblade, but it was changed to him falling in later publications.

They grow and develop based off of the collective sum of human thought, while being stated by Cultivation herself to almost entirely exist inside of that dynamic. I see them as almost exactly the same thing. I don't consider being an unoathed to be a qualifier for moral consideration. Even things like sticks, rocks, and ships can make decisions in the Cosmere, I don't think that entitles them to moral value. Everything in the Cosmere has some level of investiture. Scadrians are actually pretty low on that list. Rosharans, Nalthians, and Threnodites all come in above them in investiture.

The Egyptians and Persians also considered their kings to be gods. Most cultures did the same thing. We can even see this with the Singers treating the Fused as gods. I wouldn't listen to any of the aforementioned anymore than I would someone I meet on my day to day. I agree, she has proven to be a terrible judge of morality. Putting a sticker on Raboniel's body and calling her a hero is just too far. I suppose that comes down to your definition of a soul. I personally take anything other than whatever goes to the Beyond is misnamed when called a soul, and thus don't count. If you take everything the Cosmere calls a soul as one the line between living and non-living things gets really blurry. Probably, though I'm open to having a different interpretation should my understanding change.

I'm aware of that WoB, if you click on the link to the post Peter is talking about it will take you to the WoB I posted earlier. In addition Peter himself does not consider it a retcon, he just uses that term because that's what the fans say, even if it's wrong

Neither Dalinar or Navani accept Honor as God. With Dalinar going past Adonaliusm altogether to worship the God Beyond. I fall in the same camp with Dalinar on that one, though if you don't that's fine. However I find it odd to judge someone for not listening to a being that they do not consider to be a god. I'll let someone who holds to the spren being living beings respond to that part. On spren not deserving moral consideration, my basis has nothing to do with their ability to reason, or their intelligence. It's entirely based upon souls. I do not believe that Spren go to the Beyond when they die. I therefore consider them to be some advanced form of ChatGPT, and deserving of the same status. Now we'll see if that ends up being the case. I believe that Brandon is going that direction, but for now that's how I look at it.

We have no idea what it does. That one is also up in the air

It's not a retcon, it's been like that since before HoA Sorry, that's just a pet peeve of mine. Personally, I believe it to be the alloyed form, as Marsh's bag that he got from HoA is what he was using to compound until HoA.

Atium stores Youth, that's how TLR and Marsh stay alive despite being centuries old

Well neither she nor the Sibling view the Sibling as a god. Nor would I. Personally(and I know this is unpopular) I view all spren(including greater spren like the Sibling or Syl) to not be living things worthy of any moral consideration. I see nothing wrong with killing them as there was nothing alive in the first place. No more wrong than killing a rock or a piece of paper. Now Ishar's experiment might change that for me, but for now I stand by that. Now for others who look at spren as simply being cognitive forms of life, lesser spren are equal to animals, and Higher-spren the equivalent of people. They therefore see nothing wrong with treating them like animals or people respectively.

Because he placed greater moral weight on obedience to the Oathstone than anything else. Now clearly he was wrong in this, but it was moral consistency.

I attend a speed dating here pretty often, ask girls out, text, email, whatever. I just usually end up getting ghosted. That's not to say I can't do better, just that it isn't working out.

That was just an ATLA quote, I have not had a girlfriend

It hurts sometimes. My first girlfriend did not turn into the moon however, so at least I've got that going for me.

That's what my friends keep saying, here's hoping it's sometime soon. Don't worry, I need women to talk to me for that to even be a problem in the first place.

*Me being alone for Singles Awareness day*

You want to have a match?

Drat Are you on Showdown?

T'Telir?

Wow that win went on for way too long. I saw K-pop Demon Hunters the other day, I was not expecting it to be that good.

Well, I returned. @Ironwill2112 you lose

Number 6 makes me hesitate, but is it Aux?