Friendshipspren

@Quantus woah thanks for the comprehensive answer   

 Thought experiments for physicists in the Cosmere . Wow ok 

For a long time I thought it stole other magic systems. But now thanks to @Honorless I realise I might be mistaken.   Like suppose I spiked a mistborn, a misting , a Ferring , a feruchemist , an Elantrian and a knight radiant. 

What exactly would I steal and how do I use it ?

Also in case of an nalthian I guess I steal breaths right ? 

Even it only steals investiture than Idk if it's of much use beyond stealing breaths ?

Hey can u spike Nightblood ? 

It is strange that Tien should attract a Cryptic. I mean what lies was he telling himself ? 

That the atium producing geode he had was just a rock ???

So the Listener songs say thay Spren betrayed them for humans. 

But why ? 

I mean I see why  emotion Spren which are basically analogues to the animal kingdom would like humans better.

But why would higher sapiant civilizated Spren do that ? 

They are attracted to concepts like honor , lies/truth , love of novelty , justice , etc. 

The Parshendi are just as good as humans there. 

From the povs we have seen that Eshonsi was as honorable as kal and that Venli is a Willshaper at the first ideal . 

We have met other parshendi who were just as complex as humans. 

So what does that listener song mean ? 

1 hour ago, Bliev said:

That's a good idea.

(confession: i still have no idea what all the surges mean and i just gloss right over those parts lol. I am just like "oh, right, magic.") 

I mean compared to mistborn it is a soft loose magic system. Doesn't help that we don't know much of it either 

@Honorless I think it's like real history where trade routes were found to India and America . And organisations leveraged massive power . 

So the Cosmere is in the age of discovery now I guess ???

1 minute ago, Bliev said:

@PrinceGenocide Yes, I wonder if she took her cue from the Ashynite magic. Brandon said this on Reddit last week:

Which definitely could be something a connection-cohesion (I get those mixed up sometimes)-like Fused could manufacture as a plague, right?

Heck i don't really know if Surges can be usee like that. But I'm betting on it being Progression. 

6 minutes ago, robardin said:

What I don't quite get is how crushing humanity would free him from his prison in the Rosharan System, or why would he ever agree to a contest of champions? (He didn't confirm or deny Dalinar's statement that defeating humanity would free him...)

As for taking Nalan's pain - Nale's kind of numb already, isn't he?

Hmmm. Idk if Odium necessarily wants humanity to go extinct unlike the Fused. But yeah it is strange. Why not just hunt the Heralds instead ?

I think Honor's chains is somewhat a function of Cultivation. Like she's the one currently holding the key. And he has to kill her. But she has already maneuvered humans in such a way that humans must be dealt with before. 

Nalan just hides it . Being a robot is his way of coping with the pain. 

He let the mask slip in the Edgedancer novella, remember . 

Also she tried to use Biological weapons against humans. Dang cool.

Ooooooooooo could this be connected to the Ashynite microbes. 

Also could Autonomy be involved.

Still the Fused must be pretty advanced to design/breed biological weapons. Even failed ones. 

Wait the human who might be of the Fourth Ideal . Jasnah ????

Hmmm , I really don't understand why they would put something like that in the hands of a guy like the  Pursuer.

Also he was the first fused to be killed and that was 6 thousand yrs ago. So the Desolations lasted some 1500 yrs. Finally a real estimate. 

Also Vyre is suffered on Odium's orders. Interesting.

I wonder why Odium likes humans so much and puts them in positions of power and repute ?

First Dalinar then Vyre.

Is he being Speciest as he was human before the Shattering or is it like insurance,  should madness cause the Fused to collapse ?

Also could Odium take the pain of one of the Heralds ? 

Nalan perhaps . 

Hey I wonder if restares is kalak then how can shallan manage to kill an Herald. Hmmm he didn't actually order her to kill him , only that she would know what to do . 

Also about thaidakar. Tinfoil Mistborn crossover theory with spiolers for both eras.

7 minutes ago, Mage of Lirigon said:

Amazon is the name of a forest, river or mythological warriors. Ghostbloods is a gang name.

And there could very well be forests , rivers or mythological or real beings ( threnodite shades come to mind, as do cognitive shadows in general, with investiture running through thier incorporeal bodies like blood does in real ones. VanDell once said that investiture is like blood to the soul   ) who could also be called Ghostbloods . 

Worldhoppers esp could bestow the nomenclature on many things

Also  seriously this is like arguing dustbringers of all eras are evil thralls of odium cause thier make sounds sinister and similar to voidbringers while they were in truth as Honorable as any other Order.

Yes , they preferred the term Releasers for that reason but future Ghostbloods could change the name. It's not set in metal after all. 

4 minutes ago, Toaster Retribution said:

Oh, no, they should. I just mean that "Ghosbloods" as a name sounds rather shady, and if I were to establish a business, I would want it to be called something less suspicious. They should call themselves "The Happy Unicorn Corporation".

Eh not really . We are just used to such names. I mean Amazon for example , not really all that fluffy a name if u think of it. 

Just now, Toaster Retribution said:

One thing that points toward the Ghostbloods having a more sinister purpose than taking the monopoly on the energy market in the Cosmere is their name. If your goal is to develop a popular brand on multiple planets and make a rust-ton of money, you dont name yourselves "The Ghostbloods".

Why not ? Commerce and economic gain is how near all world powers from the Venetians and Ottomans to the Portuguese , Spanish,  Dutch and English to the USA and China have used to wield global power. 

The east india company conquered all of the Indian subcontinent using it. 

Why shouldn't the Ghostbloods ? 

31 minutes ago, Innovation said:

I didn’t think of that. You are correct, Fabrials could be a large enterprise. However, Spren don’t seem to be able to be transported off world. 

Read my post again bro. I edited it to include more 

Hmmm so let's see, apart from the free trade in investiture , we have :

* Potential for Mraize to be a tineye or have a few breaths giving him Lifesense. I am inclined towards the latter.

* Moles are somehow burrowing into the rock all the way to mountains in Central Roshar. 

Could they be bonding Spren as well like the Rhysydium ? It's interesting. They could pull off an ecological crises. But idk if it's plot diverting. Perhaps just another detail. 

* The Ghostbloods seem to be looking for radiants who can look into shadesmar. Venli in the last chapter displayed that very ability. 

So perhaps they are trying to recruit a willshaper. Willshapers are after all addicts to novelty. So perhaps they would join the GBs for something new. 

Even shallan shows some of the same thrust for novelty. Perhaps mraize intends to use her to help him search for trap spren. 

Fabrials. I believe that fabrials based on lower Spren can be transported across worlds using the same method stormlight can be .

Stormlight fabrials can be used by anyone , anywhere . 

Fabrials need stormlight to work . Hmm u can imagine the uses and riches it would provide across the Cosmere. 

47 minutes ago, Innovation said:

Yes, but metals don’t seem to have that restriction. Perhaps a Radiant populace in Silverlight? 

Hmm if they are able to take soulcasters and halfshards offworld too. 

*Whistles. 

Perhaps even Shardblades and shardplate  require stormlight offworld. They just use ambient stormlight on Roshar perhaps. 

Also I believe broken shardplate requires investiture to regrow. 

And u need stormlight infused gems to bond the shardblade with a new owner. 

Hmm it might not be possible to take Shardblades and soulcasters off world as they are based on Higher Spren afterall, presumably with greater Connection. Then again they are dead . Perhaps that factors into it to make the connection weaker. 

As for halfshards and shardplates. Heck I'm pretty sure they can move it easily in comparison.

As for the method , I wonder if it's 

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1). I don't really remember how I found out about the shard. It was around 2 yrs ago that I found out about Brando through Mistborn. 

Ok so I read mistborn era 1, then Arcanum unbounded , then era 1.5 . 

By that time I was aware that the shard existed. But I didn't join or even browse through since I stumbled on a stormlight spoiler by accident. I do remember seeing some of the Mistborn topics and feeling woah I gotta read everything before I understand anything. 

Then once I read stormlight , Warbreaker and elantris. I finally joined. 

I guess I  was looking for ppl who loved the same stuff I did. I was hoping to find someone in my own city or better in the same section of the city but kek.

2 ). I can't really tell the positive impact by disengaging it with the memories I have had , it's been great. I met @The Traveller first. Then she introduced me to @Honorless. Those two have been very , very good friends and I love them both so much ❤️❤️❤️❤️.  Then I met @AonEne, @FictionSpren and later on , @Adonalsium'sSpren, @DramaQueen , @Emi, @The_Truthwatcher and a few others. It's been great. 

I haven't really been too invested in the shard. I play some games now and then , post some memes, read some theories and quite rarely post some. Lol. 

But I guess it has had an enormous positive influence in my life. Esp Trav and hon  have provided with much needed friendship and all.

Heck I talk more with them than with anyone else I know irl. It's really interesting to talk with them as well. They have both introduced me a lot of new stuff

So yeah , Mostly I love that it introduced me to interesting and wise and kind ppl like my bro @Honorless. I love him so much. 

My mom  @The Traveller. I love her sooo much too  

These two have like helped me settle so much in my mind. 

And my sista @AonEne .  Who is already beloved by many and has my love too. Our few conversations helped me settle a lot of stuff in my mind. 

3). Hmm idr any great memories as such. I mean I mostly love talking with others and well that's evenly dispersed throughout my interactions with the shard. 

I guess if I were to point to one moment , heck several of honourless's funny updates were great . 

Oooooooo shipping kaladin with Jasnah. That was really unexpectedly fun. 

Finding out hon and Trav loved AoT too was awesome. 

I guess the most or equally fun moments are yet to come. I will be on here as long the Cosmere as the Cosmere has to reach it's conclusion. As such I guess I will be here for another 40 yrs atleast. Dang I will be old :v

But I will get to see 10 million posts too or maybe even 25 million posts. 

Let's see. 

To all u good ppl of the Shard. 

14 hours ago, DramaQueen said:

Ok, I will agree with this ship. Though I still really like Shalladin...

I'm still going with Jasnadin. 

Jasnah does seem to be way too busy tho.

She won't interact with Kal much unless........kal becomes her bodyguard. Yes. Yes yes. Pls happen. 

Oooffff only at this later hour have I come to percieve the stupid fun Joy of Shipping. ❤️❤️❤️

Oh man kal would totally make a good bodyguard. He could interact with jasnah , serve as a pov on the heralds and Szeth and others. 

He could fall in love with jasnah a d vice versa. ❤️❤️❤️❤️

1 hour ago, Honorless said:

@PrinceGenocide

https://archiveofourown.org/works/11937666

Oooooooooooooo dang. I thought the cosmere wasn't that famous yet.  I mean not crossover famous. 

Dang that was good. Although it wasn't actually veil but kek. 

And the ending oooof . Poor guy. 

16 hours ago, I Used To Be A Fish said:

 

Though in WoK Syl does say that Kaladin used to be of Odium.

She did. Hmmm gotta keep my eyes open during the reread ❤️

So I read the last preview chapter and it just struck me today  .

Veil and Wayne. 

Dang. Those two would love eachother. They are perfect for each other or at the least I'm sure Wayne would love Veil. 

Minor mistborn era 1.5 spoiler. 

Veil and Wayne.

Even has the  ailleration kinda going for it. 

There better be some fanfics shipping them together in a few yrs yo. 

Hmmm yeah I guess someone might have shipped them before. Sorry if u already know of this. 

6 hours ago, The Traveller said:

How can a single chapter make me both cry so much and then laugh so much !! 
I loved when he said “ I am not giving up Maya” !! Maya, did you hear it? 
Also loved how much Kal has changed his mind about Adolin. From he is such a brat to how has no spren taken you up yet? 
loved it!

Yeah. There was so much in this chapter I overlooked how adorable these actions were. Oh adolin. ❤️

5 minutes ago, _edgedancer said:

This sounds like a job for The Lopen. 

Oh yeah. That would be perfect for him.

2 minutes ago, Agent34 said:

So in other words you think he's not hurt enough, nice. 

I guess so,  yeah and that's a good thing. He needn't suffer. He's good as he is. 

Just now, Gears said:

Accept endings, mournful departure, solemn departure, mourning endings, acceptance.

Ooooo . A Katek. Noice

7 minutes ago, Agent34 said:

Is losing your mother (and also the main parent in your life) at a young age not painful? We've been in his head and he's not perfectly happy, he feels anguish. He's seen the men he cared for, to the point of knowing their names and families, slaughtered around him. He's suffered, "not hurt enough" is, in my opinion, ridiculous.

It's painful true but it's nothing compared to how much the others have suffered to get the cracks in the spiritwebs 

Also he seems to have a much more efficient coping mechanisms