Halyo_Alex

If I remember right, Maya looked like a typical cultivationspren except more withered/wilted in the plant-like parts of her appearance. So if she looks a little greener, that's a good sign.

I'm now visualizing this on one of the walls around the city.

using allomantic duralumin to burn a metalmind for compounding only compresses the power into a shorter timeframe of release. There's no extra power added by Duralumin. However, this does mean you could briefly experience a HUMONGOUS amount of power for a fraction of a second, if your Duralumin allomancy was strong enough. Could be fatal without healing in some cases though (F-Pewter comes to mind).

...Venli is in Envoyform. Is that a bit too on the nose? Maybe... Or maybe not.

Ok i'm just kinda laughing that you picked "3" as the "what if" number for odium there, cause that's the Dustbringers.

Being able to tap a copy of a memory also bridges the infamous Explanatory Gap of linguistics and psychology. Scadrians can, once and for all, know if "my red" is the same color as "your red". etc. Also, if Synesthesia is a thing on Scadrial, unsealed copperminds would be fascinating to have one of them store a memory in there.

Yeah. Even the extra investiture needed to tap huge amounts comes from the feruchemical reserve itself, so it actually becomes slightly end-negative at high output rates. "The Evil," which afaik is a splinter of Ambition. So, a lot of Investiture to consume, for sure, but if the Larkin could stay safe long enough, it would probably be able to eat it all. Or you could send Nightblood over there to Destroy the Evil... I think it works on the same realmatics as Chromium allomancy (leeching), so I'd imagine it's similar on a case-by-case basis. Not exactly the same, I'd say, but very comparable.

Need to tweak the ratio by turning someone into an Avatar with more of one shard than the other. Hmm, I wonder who in the world would be suitable for taking part of Ruin+Preservation with a preference for one over the other ...Wait, would that Avatar be called Discord, then?

Would his name be Duraluminar?

Or it could just be "We": Odium + Rayse.

I think about 50% of all 17th Sharders are Truthwatchers, makes sense

I always forget that Urithiru is basically in the middle of it... I keep thinking it's further south, near a coastline, though on a super tall mountain, to be sure.

I may hate mondays, but Tuesday will make the week worthwhile.

Perhaps an Avatar of Stupidity, oh wait that sure sounds familiar

I mean if the trio of "gods of spren, stone, and winds" refers to the bondsmith godspren, then I could see the Sibling representing stone i.e. the surface of roshar.

Okay, I know I've been making a fair few forum topics today/recently, but blame RoW and the preview chapters and stuff. My mind is abuzz with new information and trying to fit it into place with what I already know about the cosmere. That being said, here's another idea that I've had bouncing around in my cranial region for the past couple hours. Can F-Duralumin push the Nahel Bond beyond it's standard limits? I think so. For one, it's a hack that would require some pretty rare prerequisites. For one, a Connector Ferring, and one that can Worldhop to Roshar, and also be broken enough to become a Radiant. So it's not like this will become anywhere close to common anytime soon (perhaps by era 4 mistborn, but... I feel like that sort of power level is going to be needed at that point. I don't know why, it's just a gut feeling). Anyway, the actual realmatics behind it (besides the obvious of "nahel bond = connection = F-duralumin") is dependent on F-Duralumin being able to selectively store different Connections. If a Connector ferring can do that, then this is pretty much possible. As to what would actually happen, well, when storing, it's probable that the Radiant and Spren would both suffer losses due to it; the Spren becoming less sapient in the physical realm, and the Radiant's surgebinding weakening. Not really great, but it's something that can be hacked around with Compounding, so... Eh. Give a Duralumin Gnat a connector medallion and send em to Roshar; they'll be able to speak the local languages with the Connection anyway. As for tapping, well... I have no storming clue. Possibly more power with the surges? More efficient stormlight holding? A full merge of the two spiritwebs into one being (which may be what happens at the 5th Ideal anyway)? Pseudo-Heraldry?? ...You know, looking back at this I really feel like I should've had a more concrete theory on the consequences of tapping F-Duralumin with a Nahel bond... Oh well! You guys can have fun theorizing the effects too.

Well if my revision earlier was accurate, it may still have separate consciousness to Nale, and still approve of what he's doing. The real giveaway would be taking a good look at him in the CR.

Able to assert control like when she first became a Regal and was going around in Envoyform before Timbre entered her gemheart. THIS. HOLY STORMS I FORGOT. Also, whatever form "Willshaperform" might be. Or any of the other radiant spren. Imagine a proper Lightweaver Singer. That would be AWESOME. (not biased ) Pretty sure it's cultivation. They "grow" into different forms based on what they need to do at the time. Plus they're like natural fabrials.

...Oh. Oh storms. ...Now I can't unsee Dalinar riding into battle on a Chasmfiend-sized Larkin.

Most likely a mix of Voidlight and the corrupted spiritweb of the Fused itself.

Yep, exactly. She now has control over whether to have voidbringer (red) eyes, or purple Willshaper eyes. ...Reminds me of Darth Revan and his purple/red lightsaber combo, now that I think about it. Yeah, actually, that's a good point. If Timbre leaves her gemheart to become a Shardblade, does her Voidspren get set free... Maybe instead Timbre can bully the Voidspren into manifesting as a blade (probably at a higher ideal than normal for a Willshaper's blade).

As of the end of Oathbringer, Venli has a voidspren of some form (making her a Regal) AND a Lightspren (Willshaper spren, Timbre) inside her Gemheart at the same time. She's a Radiant Singer Regal. If that makes sense.

That's fair. We'll just have to see if we get more info on it from good ol Stormfather or something. Okay yeah you got me there. I guess it wouldn't be impossible to manifest a projection of the spren's normal appearance outside of them, especially for a Lightweaver Also this makes me even more hyped for Venli, because if I AM onto something, she would be the Honor equivalent of a Fused or something. Which would be badass.

Well then I did my job right. Well then maybe they don't merge Cognitively (in terms of consciousness). Think Shallan/Veil/Radiant, but actually a separate entity inside there. Or like a non-destructive Fused, somehow. Maybe the gradual nature of the Nahel Bond permits that. Ahhh, yeah, the Recreance... That's probably the biggest piece of evidence against this. But there are ways of explaining it. I'm just not well-informed enough to think of any on the spot. Maybe something like, the few 5th ideal Radiants that existed were actually willing to die for the sake of protecting the rest of Roshar? Eehhh, seems kind of like the cop-out answer. If they couldn't break the bond willingly, maybe they just asked a radiant to kill them with their blade and then go to the Recreance like we see in the visions. Would be super depressing and dark, but... I could see it happening, if they really thought that was the answer. ...now I'm almost half suspecting an ancient 5th ideal radiant will show up either in book 5 or in the second half of SA. ...or maybe one already has? If they're a Lightweaver... Nah. No, that's too aluminum foil hat even for me. We might see an old 5th ideal radiant show up later. Maybe.

I'm fairly sure this idea will have been suggested before, but I want to try and dive deeply into it for the sake of it, really. I want to know if you guys think it'll happen or not. So, then. The theory/hypothesis. Will the 5th ideal cause the Radiant and Spren's spiritwebs to be so thoroughly connected that the two become indistinguishable in the SR, thus causing them to become Cognitively and Physically the same being? I suppose the big points against this would be 1. If we've seen Nale's Highspren on-screen, since he's a 5th ideal skybreaker (but also a Herald which might change things) and 2. How would Shardblade summoning work if that's the case? We already know a single spren can't manifest as two separate pieces of shardblade because that involves splitting their spiritweb, which, OUCH. So if this was the case, there would need to be some alternative. Perhaps we've seen a proto-form of this, when Dalinar manifests a not-Blade out of stormlight to use the Oathgate and flee. If a 5th Ideal Radiant could do that reliably and safely, whatever it is (i think it was partially condensed stormlight, personally), then they wouldn't need to split their spiritweb to manifest a Shardblade. Alternatively, they could just do something like FMA and have a sword-arm instead. Another consequence of this would be that the Radiant/Spren hybrid would take on physical traits from both components, which could have some pretty cool visual alterations. Like imagine how a full-truth Lightweaver could look, with that weird, almost glassy Cryptic cloak, maybe their face has a moving tattoo that matches the pattern of their Cryptic (or a new pattern that represents the Radiant AND their Cryptic!). That would be SO cool. In terms of how this affects powers, with effectively 0 resistance between the Radiant and their Spren, they would have perfect access to their Spren's surges, without any weird latency or Stormlight inefficiency (note: i'm not claiming the hybrid would not leak Stormlight at all... But Brando did specify in a wob that "humans" leak too much, so maybe this is the caveat). Continuing with the Lightweaver example (totally not because of personal biases), this would likely have bigger ramifications with Soulcasting, given how the Cryptic does the translating between Cognitive aspects and the Radiant. Perhaps with this final step, the Radiant can just comprehend and speak to the beads in Shadesmar directly. Would certainly expedite the process, if nothing else. With Lightweaving, one downside I can see is that without the Spren being separate, you couldn't do the thing Shallan does and stick an illusion of Veil to Pattern for him to walk away with and misdirect people. However, I can see one way to circumvent this. If Plate really is lesser spren, then perhaps Lightweavers can stick Illusions to those as well (which for one just sounds amazing, a swarm of illusions that the Lightweaver uses as misdirection, forgoing the defensive capabilities of Plate). Another effect this may have is on aging, or lack thereof. I wonder if a Spren is enough to slow the aging of their hybridized Radiant waayyy down. Not to be ageless like the Heralds, but maybe... Maybe it could be with a tweak from a Bondsmith, Stormfather permitting. That's a mini-theory for another time, though. One last piece of meta-evidence is that SA is meant to be sort of like an anime, and this is similar to one of those somewhat prevalent (in my experience) anime tropes.