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It seems like it would lead to a lot of mutual upvoting. I upvote all of your stuff you upvote all of mine type deals. Also it would encourage pandering to specific groups of people rather then the form as a whole.

If you have a good experiment propose one! You are a colleague of the famous David Langdale and the institute will except your ideas. I await you eagerly.

Any entropy created by anyone involves Ruin. There is a WoB that states that any act of stasis involves Preservation but I can't find it right now.

It is not a perpendicularity that overcharges them. We don't really know how it works but it is a specifically bondsmith ability assuming that WoB is still kind of correct and we have no reason to believe that the other two spren were different in this regaurd. Just Renarin.

Could you restate your position including this "new" information? It might clear things up.

In Honor's vision he states that the spren themselves took initiative.

Edgedancer wins no contest. Those people are unkillable.

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I am fairly sure that aluminum ferrings are vulnerable to everything while storing(by everything I mean emotional allomancy, soul stamping and even normal depression). I also do think we have a WoB on this one but I can't find it.

Strictly speaking they do. For a bond of any type to occur Honor must be involved in some capacity. It does not matter if the bond is magical spiritual or physical in nature. He calls himself the spren of oaths. If he is what he says he cannot stop an oath from happening and he must respect it when it does happen.

But there was an Honorspren mentioned in the Nohadon vision which seems to be pre ideals.

I agree wholeheartedly. It is not. It is a separate ability. I will post WoB when I find it if you like. Even before then the Stormfather distributed stormlight. In fact he has done so since before the shattering. Why not several hundred gems at a time? Also the city is still partly on somehow. Some things like the increased pressure remain functional. Pretty sure it just did not go in. They would have noticed if it drained and did nothing. They would likely have thought that "hm big city. It must need more stormlight."

This is a fun thought experiment. I wondered how I would go about increasing my scientific understanding of the metallic arts in era two. Let us for convinced say that Wax had done well financially this year and founded a scientific institute for this purpose with the proceeds and that due to the southern scare(northern fears of the greater technological proficiency of the scadrian southerners) there is considerable public interest and support for our institute. David Langdale famed scientist and a compounder have been chosen to lead this institute with my friends(who ever is interested in posting there own in context experiment please do so below). The first few things that David Langdale decides to do are 1. Take a large representative sample of the population and test for metallic abilities(all 32) as well as their ages and weather or not they knew ahead of time. From this we will know how many metalborn are actually in the population which kinds are more common and weather or not these numbers are increasing of decreasing(age distribution). 2. Get a large number of coinshots and lurchers. Measure their strength(how high they can push themselves/pull a given weight given their own weight), precision (how far away they can move a discreet amount of metal), and accuracy(how many metal objects they can move at a given distance without moving any other metal object). From this we can get an coinshot and lurcher ratings and an average coinshot and lurcher who burn an average amount of a given metal. We can also stack this against our metalborn census to see if allomancy is increasing or decreasing in strength over time and by how much. 3. Once experiment two is complete we have a unit of investiture to measure from. From this we can get seeker ratings by having seekers tell us about average burners(how many of them there are and in which directions) and we can do the same with copperclouds(how much do you interfere with a seeker). 4. Once experiment three is finished we can use seekers to give ratings by finding average thugs tineyes and so on and seeing how detectable their burn is at a given distance compared to other burns of the same type. 5. This is the one that really excites me. Scadrains can compute the speed of light. They probably know it by now. https://sciencing.com/calculate-speed-light-5157189.html Once they get Mexwellian equations (which honestly they would have by now if they were not so lazy) they should know that you can't go faster then the speed of light in our space. This means that once it becomes known that bronze pulses are FTL they will start to learn about relmatic theory! What other experiments should David Langdale and his colleges try out next? Do we know the answers to all of them. If not then great question to ask Brandon. If yes then what implications could it have? Do the metallic arts contain a way to discover the CR? Also. No medallions. No hemalurgy. The public is not aware of hemalurgy and does not have access to medallions. They are aware of medallions at the institute but they don't have any yet.

There are some odd effects of doing that like the way your mind recessives time but if you are just talking about running speed that will probably work.

It would explain some things perfectly but it has other problems. IE how does the water move from man to sand? It does but it also creates problems(unlimited mastering).

The why he cut it annotation does not appear. Oh you found it thanks!

I did and still do. Agreed.

That is quite a rant let us take it one part at a time. First even if Bondsmiths can't open a perpendicularity they can still use an overcharge ability. Secondly the sibiling themselves might have access to some kind of power the same way the stormfather does. Thirdly why not fill it manually one gemstone at a time? Yes we have. Lightspren.

Stops you right here. First in #1 you meant Ashyn. Secondly Ishar could easily have made all 10 orders by himself based on his understanding. Thirdly Ishar might not have exactly made the oaths themselves. Perhaps they were already "available" in the SR and Ishar just altered the natural "current" of the magic system so that it passed through that SR "area.(this is basically what I think happened anyway)." Fourth where does Nohadon fit in with either chronology? We know he did something. Finally I don't like this OP because it means that the oaths are based on what individual humans decided were the right ideals for the knights to follow. However(unfortunately) me not liking something is not grounds for it being wrong.

What did it say?

Why is a mariage a trois less appropriate then any other kind of physical intimacy?

I do doubt it but since it is an OP not a declaration of fact I obviously can't prove it to be wrong. We don't actually know how the oaths developed. It is possible(in my view likely) that someone added them as an inherent part of the magic system through some kind of SR alteration. Except the Heralds are people so their "attributes" are at best a major simplification of who they are and what they represent. At worst they could be a cultural understanding of some extremely badly kept records on what the Heralds actually said and did. An example. One of the divine attributes attributed to Ishar is piety. However Ishar had actual knowledge of who the shards were and how they worked. What seemed to the people coming up with the attributes was a great deal of faith that was rewarded because of its truth was actually Ishar just being super well informed and doing his homework.

You already know I think the attributes are a social construction with more meaning to due with culture then the magic system itself. As an OP it works though. Good job.

All bonds happen due to Honor forced or not. His intent seems to be pro bond so he can't stop himself from allowing a bond is my interpretation.