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Hey, I'm pretty bored, so I figured I'd outline one of the two magic systems for my book! This one is the more widely used system (and also the one I've done more work on), so we'll discuss it first. So, without further ado, let me introduce you to Cataclysmic Tagranesh! What is a Cataclysmic Tagranesh? Tagranesh (Archaic Gish for "world's soul", or magic), is an umbrella term covering all magic systems on the world of Gaizha. It's split into two main categories - External (Cataclysmic), and Internal (Healing). Today we'll cover the former category. Cataclysmic Tagranesh's definition of external comes from its usage of an external force to power it. How to use Cataclysmic Tagranesh To use Cataclysmic Tagranesh, you first need to find a Pulse. A Pulse is a small, white magic sphere that releases colored light. Pulses appear after natural disasters such as storms or earthquakes, and Pulses from different disasters give off different colors. Once you manage to get your hands on a Pulse, you need to distill it. Pulses distill when a sapient being focuses on a specific mindset and the Pulse. Different Pulses respond to different mindsets. For example. Pulses from a storm respond to single-minded drive, while Pulses from a forest fire respond to flurries of passion. Getting into the perfect mindset takes a few months of training, but once you get decent at it, you can fully turn a Pulse into a sort of colored liquid. Once a Pulse is in liquid state, the fun can begin. When a mage wants to use a Pulse, they adopt the same mindset they used to distill it, and the liquid Pulse will shoot into their soul. After a two second delay, the Pulse will interact with their soul, and release its energy in a giant wave around the mage. The mage can now control this power, whatever it is. Each Pulse gives a power corresponding to the natural disaster that spawned it. Storm Pulses, for example, give the ability to control wind, lightning, and water (but only to form clouds). Drawbacks While Cataclysmic Tagranesh doesn't affect its user, it can easily affect those around them. Especially for newcomers, Cataclysmic Tagranesh is quite difficult to control, and its power is quite expansive. It's much easier to burn a city to the ground with Tagranesh than it is to light a candle. This makes impulsively using Tagranesh to deal with problems difficult, because it's hard to reel in once it's activated, and you can end up hurting people. Learning to use Tagranesh reliably takes decades of practice. So, that's Cataclysmic Tagranesh! Any questions? Criticisms? Tell me in the comments.
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When will we get the Ishar conflict?
Inky replied to Toaster Retribution's topic in Stormlight Archive
I mean maybe, but Brandon has said that the Back Half is very Herald-focused, while the Front Half is Radiant focused, so I imagine big overarching plots about Ishar would, yknow, be in the Herald-focused section -
When will we get the Ishar conflict?
Inky replied to Toaster Retribution's topic in Stormlight Archive
I actually think he's more of a threat in the back half. Maybe he'll be a nuisance during books 4 and 5 but I don't actually think he'll be a major focus at all. -
I mean, yeah? But also, Brandon has said that beyond Warbreaker (which was specifically designed to introduce Vasher and Nightblood - who were SA characters first), Stormlight is fairly self contained. I doubt we'll see anything substantial outside of the Rosharan system besides Nalthis, Hoid, and a few easter eggs. It's a bit too early for super worldhopping adventures, which is pretty much squarely in endgame cosmere territory.
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(Mistborn Spoilers)
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Looking closely at the image, she actually does, at least to me.
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For now. He still seems just a tad uncertain, but yeah, it seems like that'll be it for now,
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Women's script sorta looks like waveforms - this was intentional on Brandon's part
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Wow! My first big theory! Feels good! I can't wait to see how Book 4 disproves all of this with a single paragraph. So, let's get into things. Some Background Most of this speculation comes from a small argument I had on our lovely Discord about magic systems and methods of access. Yknow, stuff like Bonds and Oaths and breathing in Stormlight. So, at the tail end of this discussion, I had a thought. What is Voidbinding's method of access? Well, you might say Voidlight, but I don't believe the Fused are Voidbinding (yet). But even if that's the case, I assume Voidlight would only be a key, similarly to Stormlight. Not everyone can Surgebind, you need to have a Nahel bond with a Radiant Spren, and you need to say Oaths. So that's what I'm going to call a "method of access" for this theory. With that, let's begin! The Nightwatcher, the Unmade, and providing external powers So, two big parts of my theory are these two nuggets of information. First up is the information that Voidbinding usually originates with the Unmade. The second nugget is that Voidbinding and the Old Magic are "cousins", as stated by Khriss in the Ars Arcanum: So, how does the Old Magic work? As far as we know, it's just the Nightwatcher chucking Investiture at people to facilitate a change. So, if Voidbinding and the Old Magic can be considered "cousins", perhaps the similarities lie here. The Unmade provide an external form of Investiture, either in the form the ability to use Voids/Surges/Voidsurges (terminology unclear), Voidlight, or both. But unlike the Old Magic, Voidbinding seems to be a much more rigid magic system standard of Brandon. It was used (at least in some form, since we can assume that Voidbinding has not been fully explored) frequently enough that the Vorins were able to make a (probably incorrect) chart for it. So, if it's a rigid, Sanderson-brand magic system, how's it work? What's the key? The focus? The method of access? Well... The empty pit that sucks in emotion I can't fully confirm what Voidbinding does once it's activated, whether it's Surges used in a crazy new light, to simply corrupted Surgebinding, to something entirely out of left field. But I can ask you a question: why does Surgebinding love bonds so much? I'd think it's because Honor likes bonds and oaths. It's his "thing". Gravitation even works the way it does in Surgebinding because Honor loves bonds. He likes to make them, he sticks by them, and he uses them for all his crazy magic (sealing away Odium, establishing the Oathpact, etc). So what's Odium's "thing"? What does he do? From what we've seen in Oathbringer, and that ominous quote from the Eila Stele I put before this paragraph, Odium "takes away pain". His followers (this is especially apparent in Moash) throw the blame on someone else. They relieve themselves of their pain, and as a result they feel a depressive void. When Dalinar abuses the Thrill, he becomes unable to be sated by anything but Thrill-infused carnage. There is no emotion unless he is accessing Odium's power. While this is obviously a metaphor for drug/alcohol abuse, I do think it still relates to Odium magically. So, how does this relate to Voidbinding? Well, if we go forward with the idea that the method of access for magic systems is related to the Modus Operandi of their Shard of origin, than perhaps in order to use Voidbinding, you have to drain yourself. Possibly of emotion, possibly of a variety of things that the Unmade ask of you, maybe both, but I believe that Voidbinding requires the user to drain themselves of something. Once they give up their "pain", the Unmade can step in, and provide that internal Investiture source, whatever that may be. I'm not quite sure how it works, but one possible way might be like this: Some person has Voidlight. They breathe in the Voidlight, and focus on their "pain". The Voidlight gets to work and takes the person's pain. Some Unmade steps in, and forges a quick connection with the person, filling them up with Voidy Juice. Ta-da! You've got yourself a Voidbinder! This might not be exactly how things work, and it might not even need Voidlight at all, but that remains to be seen. I will give you my sorrow There's still a chasmfiend in the room: Renarin. He's obviously related in some way to the Void, due to Brandon's chart-pointing and the fact that his Spren is "Enlightened" by Sja-Anat. Since he seems unable to produce illusions (this remains to be seen, but he does seem to have an abnormally difficult time producing them, even accidentally), many people have considered the idea that his Surge of Illumination has been coopted and replaced with the Void/Voidsurge of Illumination. But Voidbinding originates with the Unmade, right? Well, only usually, whatever that means. So, Renarin bonding a corrupted spren. That might be one of the less common methods of obtaining Voidbinding. Now, according to Brandon, Renarin is "weird' and not really fully Voidbinding. What does he mean by this? Well, there are a lot of theories, but one I think works is that Renarin isn't really doing much - Glys is facilitating everything. It's definitely possible for spren to access Surges. Syl does a bit of it, and Fabrials obviously work that way in some form. And now, this might be a stretch, but consider, Right before Renarin sees his final vision in OB, this little line shows up : "I will give you my sorrow". And then the next time we see Renarin, boom. Vision time. I might be completely reading too far into this, but if Voidbinding does require giving up "pain" or emotions, than perhaps to use Voidish Illumination, one must give up their sorrow. And since Renarin either doesn't want to or doesn't know how, Glys has been facilitating it for the time being? Can Renarin Voidbind on his own? Does he need an Unmade, or will his strange bond suffice? That remains to be seen. Ending And with that, all my weird speculation comes to a wrap! Thanks for reading, and feel free to tear into this in the replies. I think it holds some water, and even if I'm mostly wrong, this might be a piece to a larger puzzle. See you all soon!
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Hoo boy, that's a rabbit hole waiting to happen
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Brandon says that Kaladin is actually hidden among the refugees
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It's gotta be Moash Alethkar is a place. It makes perfect sense to me
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Szeth is a wuss
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cutlivation cultivation has vines for eyes {*OB spoilers}
Inky replied to ThoughtWeaver's topic in Stormlight Archive
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How did humans use Surgebinding to destroy Ashyn?
Inky replied to SpiritualYogiNerd's topic in Stormlight Archive
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Thanks for the crit! Can you elaborate so I know what to fix?
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Hello! I'm writing a fantasy adventure novel with a lot of unnecessary worldbuilding! Here's the prologue, if anyone's interested: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1X1Zz1IEeY2UNFUEnV6wEVqRpaEn5DSjsn85Lqni3LDE/edit?usp=sharing I'm always open for critique! Tell me what you think.
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Big Storming Sword
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Szeth - A Shard's champion(Probably Cultivations)
Inky replied to CleverCremling's topic in Stormlight Archive
Idea: Cultivation doesn't have a champion. Why would she? She doesn't seem like the person to bet everything on such a risky deal, and I've always been under the impression that the contest was always between just Odium and Honor? -
Fullborn, easily
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Uh... in the form of a gas, liquid, or solid? Not sure what you mean here
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Does prolonged surgebinding make you insane
Inky replied to SzethIsBadAsHell's topic in Stormlight Archive
Szeth is Jasnah's age, so it's more like twenty or so I'd assume. Okay so - humans on Ashyn were not Surgebinding. Ashyn had its own magic system that follows completely different rules. Ashyn blew up because Odium managed to convince a few people to put a series of events in play that would further his plans. And, Ashyn's current magic system has users be able to use magic when they're sick, implying a morbid sort of proto-Nahel bond, and likely a bond based magic system existed before they made the floor lava. The Fused become insane because they died a lot. Specifically, I think this is because of their routine being killed by Shardblades which messes with their Spiritweb, but that's just a theory. What we do know is that Fused dying over and over again makes them insane. So, I don't think it's overuse of the magic -
Does prolonged surgebinding make you insane
Inky replied to SzethIsBadAsHell's topic in Stormlight Archive
Szeth and Shallan's insanity is what made them prime candidates for radiancy, and not the other way around. So called "broken" people are easier for spren to bond because there's more "cracks" in their spiritweb for the spren to fill
