Furamirionind

I'd like to sign up as a spectator please!

Not to speak for Striker/Maill, but they mentioned this in the dead doc. First of all, and most importantly, the Kandra. If they kill a vote manip, the smoker can protect the village. Or if the kandra kills the smoker, they can protect from the vote manip. Second, I've definitely seen misplays from village vote manips. A village smoker can protect from those misplays. Also, I am curious as to why every role has to be useful in combating the opposing faction. Roleless is a role that is not useful, so if you replace roleless with... Smoker... you basically have a slightly better roleless now.

Wow, reading the docs goes way faster when most of the text in one of them you contributed. In all seriousness, I spent my entire lunch break at work today trying to figure out how to make a program in google scripts that would tell what colours the text is in a doc and what percentage of said doc is each colour. I couldn't figure it out though... so if any of you know... Umm, I made it up. : P I don't know if you plan to read the dead doc, but basically, I was rooting for Drake to win... Then he died... So I was rooting for Rath... Then he died... And I needed someone else. I didn't know who to pick, so I picked you and the other HK as the two I would root for. That's basically all there was to it. xD (I also thought Araris was the village HK by the way xD) This was all just from me ctrl-fing my name. I'll have to do a thorough read over the weekend. (I think this is my first and last free weekend of the summer! Yay!) Edit, wow. I didn't realize how long this was. I'm gonna throw a couple spoilers in here to decrease the length. Oh, if you want to get a good laugh at my expense, just ctrl-f Aman/Fifth's names in the dead doc. xD Oh, I also had a theory for a bit that Devotary was the Kandra, Rath was Elim, and I was village. That would have been amazing.

I'd like to sign up! ... As a... um... as... a... well... I... Um... Spectator please. : (

Preface: I'm not good at RP. Now to continue with the post: (xD) Ok, more thoughts to come after reading the other docs. (For those who don't normally read docs, I heard good things about the entertainment quality of the elim one.) Basic preliminary stuff: I absolutely love all of you, and have not meant to sound sharp/snappish/rude/anything to any of you recently. As several of you know from my status updates and comments in discord, I am going through a lot of stuff IRL right now. Spectating these games has been a huge blessing with allowing me to partake in the game without having to commit at all. However, I know this is no excuse for how I have been recently. Therefore, this will be my last game for the next... 1-2 months at the very least. This will hopefully let me focus on my real life and get into a healthier mental state, which will allow me to treat you all with the respect you all deserve. Once summer ends I am hoping I'll have more time, but even then, there is no guarantee. However, this brings me to my second point: @Ventyl, it was an absolute joy to play with you this game. And while I hope to play another game with you where we can interact more closely, if you choose to stay, I believe I can feel comfortable stepping back from these games with you to replace me. (But really, seriously, no pressure : P ) You really impressed me this game, and if you choose to stay, I look forward to seeing you grow as a player. (also, if you read my comments about you in the dead doc, don't take the compliments too personally. : P ) @Fifth Scholar, just so you know, I did an almost 2 page analysis on one of your posts in the dead doc. I already knew you were village at that point... But my conclusion to that analysis was... You're an elim. : P Even after knowing your innocence 100%, beyond the grave, I still elim read you SO HARD xD I want to point out how funny I found it once I realized I publicly called out both Aman and Stick for being elims, and then village read them both in my player analysis. Granted, that day wasn't the best for me mentally. So idk what my conclusions actually would have been. Speaking of that analysis, most of you never saw it. In fact, only 3 players ever saw my analysis that game. Those players were Drake, Aman, and Stick. I trusted Drake 100%, but I made the poor choice to PM all the people I suspected. So I had PMs with Fifth, Aman, and Stick... And probably would have PMed Lum the next turn had I lived. Idk if I am allowed to quote PMs after the game, but hopefully if I am not allowed, it will be accepted in this instance. Because I want to share what I sent to Drake in our PM before I died.: I sent my reads list to Stick and Aman, but nothing else. As I go into detail in the dead doc, I actually PMed Aman a bunch after I sent this PM, and ended up leaving out some valuable AI info about him due to it. @_Stick_ You did really well in our PM. I prize myself in my ability to PM, but you completely fooled me. I still suspected you a bit due to what you said in-thread, but I generally trust my PM reads more than my thread ones. Looking back on the PM, you only ever said NAI stuff, but your tone just sounded very village to me. You did really good. Also, @Rathmaskal proved he is a god at village in this game. I analysed a bunch of his posts as well, but he posted tons of AI village content with a village tone. I wanted Rath to be an elim so bad this game. But regardless, I loved watching you get torn to shreds despite how village you were. xD @Amanuensis While congratulating Rath, I really have to call you out as well. Rath had almost less than a 0% chance of being an elim this game (which is why I wanted him to be one). You being able to get him lynched was... incredible? extrordinary? I honestly don't know. So infuriating and facinating to watch at the same time. I'll leave it at that. xD You did some other great stuff this game, like claiming Kandra and such... And while many people might remember that as your big moment this game as it was flashy, getting Rath lynched, I believe, was a much, MUCH more incredible feat. Anyways, after Drake and Rath died, I started rooting for a Hazekiller Final 2... But you had to let me down on that by killing Straw. :'( Anyways, thanks Stick for carrying the HK legacy on with you. And of course, a huge thank you to @StrikerEZ and @Mailliw73. This game was fun to play, and just as fun to spectate (probably more, but only due to my circumstances). I loved being able to talk to you both as well about the game, theories and such as well. It feels so weird to be called out for my analysis... That never happens! xD Death to the Allomancers! Umm, everyone? Well, let's just say that seeing the future isn't just from "Him"

Haha, that was very impressive Elandera! No one said anything about Zombies having lower intelligence! @Kidpen Hint: You can find it in the writeup in question. xD

Yeah, I was being sarcastic due to you saying in thread I was allowed to post. Obviously I wasnt going to post in thread again making that joke... granted, I accept it want funny. : P

Great Job Maill and Straw! Who wins as a refugee? Maill, Straw, and everyone who died as a refugee? Edit: Also, Alv, you never told me I could post! I could have been talking to the players this whole time! : P

“One day, there was a monkey tribe just minding their own business, when they saw a bunch of humans crawl out of the bushes. While normally, they would keep their distance from humans, these ones seemed in dire need of medical attention. As the monkeys ran forward to help, they quickly realized something was wrong. But it was too late. None of the humans apparently thought it worthwhile to warn the monkeys about the zombies. Before they had a chance to run, the zombies quickly took their opportunity snatch as many monkey brains as possible. Few of them were able to escape. Luckily, I, Georgey, scrambled up a tree as soon as possible, and the zombies were unable to follow me. I shouted for the survivors to scramble for the trees, and 8 of us made it. Unfortunately, I made a grave mistake that night. As we all went to sleep high in the trees, I felt a searing pain in my shoulder, and saw a zombie monkey biting me. I jumped to my feet and attempted to scramble away, but it was too late. I too became one of them us them us, and the two of us together quickly converted the rest of the sleeping monkeys. Ravaged by hunger, we set off to find more unsuspecting tree dwellers.” Georgey pushed the makeshift typewriter, to the left, and rolled the paper out. Georgey was your average monkey… perhaps a little more intelligent, but other than that, perfectly average. When he was a year old, he found he could start a fire by scraping some stones against each other, and when he was 3 years, he learned that if he put clay in between sticks, he could build complex structures. Oh, but you should have seen what some of his friends made… His newest invention, a typewriter. He skimmed over the paper. Yes, he would not make the same mistake the humans made with him. After all, he had known for a while that his tribe of monkeys were far more civilized than humans. He would give the humans a proper warning, so that they stood as good of a chance as possible against him. It wouldn’t be easy, but they could do it. He believed in them. A second voice spoke in his head, “NO, THESE MONSTERS MUST BE FIXED. LOOK WHAT THEY DID TO YOU. THEY DESERVE NOTHING.” Georgey set his shoulders, then his hips (being basically a second set of shoulders), and determinedly walked towards the humans. Georgey reached out to hand someone the piece of paper, but then recoiled. He didn’t want to give it to a zombie. He scanned the crowd trying to decipher which were and weren’t zombies. Why did humans all have to look the same??? Why couldn’t they be easy to tell apart like monkeys were?! He screamed so that several heads turned towards him, set the paper down on a log, and ran away as fast as he could. Or at least, as far as he could before the voice came back.

2 things: 1. I just noticed that @Lumgol and @Mailliw73 were mentioned a grand total of 279 times each in the elim doc. First of all, that's a lot of times... Second, I figured Lum would appreciate that stat. xD 2. The MB doc is still editable. : P

@Fifth Scholar is the master document around by any chance?

Ah, I look forward to hearing you address both of our questions as well. : )

Just to clarify, you aren't talking to me, correct? : P

This is either very suspicious, or Ventyl forgot my alignment will be revealed when I die. : ) Granted, this would be way more suspicious on an elim!Fura flip than a village!Fura flip. First, I could still be saved by vote manip. Second... Devote faith? Devout Faith? … I'm no god... Why would your belief in me being a villager be suspicious in and of itself? If I flipped elim, then sure, perhaps. But you could also have been a villager I pocketed. Why are you expecting backlash in the next couple turns?

Would you mind rephrasing your reasons in your own words please? Edit: (7) Furamirionind: _Stick_, Fifth Scholar, Lumgol, Araris Valerian, Straw, Rathmaskal, Devotary of Spontaneity (5) Devotary of Spontaneity: Sart, MrakeDarshall, Ventyl, Amanuensis, Furamirionind,

I'm still conflicted as I feel like I should be the one to die today, but as voting on Devotary ties up the lynch, I'll switch for the moment. fura Devotary

The point, is you use PMs efficiently. you learn who has PMs with who, and learn through that who you need to PM. You learn who you should include in your group PM. By knowing who PMed who, you gain info on roles and alignments both. For instance, I happen to be in a PM circle. Where each player just so happened to receive a PM, and send a PM to the one adjacent. That's pretty telling. I was rushing due to being at work. I am not planning on separating at all. What you do is you pair suspicious ones with ones you trust that can prove their role. Like how I paired Drake with myself in MR35, as I thought he might not submit an attack on the Krell. That way, I knew if he did or not. Same concept. Beyond that, I will go into no more detail.

Oh, but I almost have my death PMs all written... :/

It's also typically a Fura move. For reference, see Fura in literally any game ever. : P

Well, I was originally going to vote Devotary purely so that I could watch what people did with the vote being close. However, I feel that the vote is a little one sided for that to matter at the moment. I have gathered what Data I can, and don't believe I can get any more through PMs this game. I don't see a reason for me to live past this turn. I am so highly suspected for... I'm still not quite certain... Anyways, this suspicion will not wear off throughout the game, and my life will just be a constant drain on analysis resources. I also will not be able to accomplish anything, as people are so certain they have figured out my alignment, they are no longer willing to share any data with me. I am the Hazekiller. My goal this game was to gather PM networks. Through those networks, about N3 I would start using my charges on whoever I most suspect. I am tempted to use one before I die, however, I don't really see the point. Through using my charges and network combined, I was hoping to be able to work out player's roles, and combined with the network, I figured this would allow me to reach out to those with complimentary roles and pair them together, or separate them if they were too suspicious. I know, that was a bit of an ambitious goal, especially for trying not to put so much time in, but I failed on that account anyway, so... I will be gathering up what information I have, and distributing it amongst a couple people. Hopefully, my words will be given at least a little more weight once I flip village. Stick Fura

Looks like fun. I'd like to play, but I will have to spectate unfortunately.

As a villager, would you be likely to PM Aman after he survives an attack? Yes, though you would also be likely to PM him pretty much anytime. As a villager, would you be likely to PM Aman before he survives an attack? Yes, though you would also be likely to PM him pretty much anytime. As an elim, would you be likely to PM Aman after he survives an attack? Yes, Learn why he survived, look like a helpful village, etc. As a villager elim, would you be likely to PM Aman before he survives an attack? No, It's a waste of a PM, and assuming no WGG/elim!Aman, the elims have no reason to believe Aman would survive. Edit: Aman's suspicion of me trying to figure out how connected he is before killing him is, I admit, a good reason for an elim to PM him before he dies though. Though in my case, I have historically (I personally believe) used PMs pretty well with living players. It is where I try to pocket players, and it is where I put a ton of effort trying to misdirect people, and I have a high success rate based on previous games. Me creating a PM with someone I want to kill as an elim, is a waste of my abilities.

How does that make it not an honest trade? If anything it makes it more honest due to me not needing to give you information on me in exchange for it, yet I still did. Yes, it was unequal. I’ve already stated that I’m comfortable with unequal trades if they’re skewed against me as long as I’m getting some information. I thought your role would be as valuable as my role and my contacts, and was therefore willing to exchange both. And given that you essentially eventually did, I can only answer that question with a yes. Yes, out of pity. And that was it. I also have said my reads have been flipping on you a lot. Just about with every one of your posts in fact. Not true. Just don't include me and it works fine. Care to take this to PMs? Edit: Well, yes according to lore... But... Mechanics? :'( it's just a theory...

My Kandra theory is they can spend an action to adopt the role of a dead player. I asked this after Ark's lynch. My goal, was hoping the Kandra would claim to someone. This would also prevent elims from being able to claim MB when surviving a lynch. I was going to argue that I've done this before as a villager, but I think the last time I had was Sarts FFA QF... so that hardly has any bearing on my alignment. I mean, that's kind of exactly what I was doing. However, if you are so concerned with that information you gave me, why did you continue telling me about your PM contacts after the night ended? Hmm. I didnt question your elim read of this post on first read through... but it is misleading. You arent actually elim reading the post. You are assuming my evil alignment, then casting your elim read of my post because of that. Come on Aman. Your better than that. I know you're busy, but what this should prompt you to do is analyze Stick before casting a read of that post... or just say you arent sure. You say in a differant reaponse that you see where my suspicion of Stick is coming from. This would imply to me while you arent able to see all the data, you think this a reasonable arguement for a villager to make, yet here you only focus on the "hypocrisy". ------------------ You say my play this game looks very possibly like a rushed elim who is showing their tells. Is it not possible, I am a rushed villager showing their tells? ------------------ Wait a second... I didnt try to "sniff out your PMs". I offered an honest trade. You are upset I false claimed to you? Honestly, before I even false claimed, you offered me an unequal trade for my role. Your role + PMs just for my role. I found this suspicious and told you such. You think I would roleclaim to someone I specifically found suspicious? Next, you are being VERY misleading here. Idk if you made your plan before or after I roleclaimed, but you didnt wait on my approval before taking action. Dont blame me for that... ------------------------ I dont like the sudden apperant change of opinion on Stick by Aman. Aman told me he was suspicious of Stick and one other due to PMing him imidiately after he survived the night. I think Lum-Stick-Aman elim team. Though Aman has done a lot of distancing with Stick, so I am not certain if they can be on the same team. Perhaps one of them is a Kandra...

It's hard to change the lynch 10 minutes to rollover. I tried once in MR35, and not only did it not work, but it made me look really suspicious. I dont blame any villager or elim for not trying to change the lynch that late due to that. I am an example of that. If I was around an hour or so before rollover, I would have likely tried to get a non-Ark/Drake lynch. Edit: lums analysis has felt really forced all game to me. I can try to explain when I get home.