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Mid-Range Game 35: Final Flight
Furamirionind replied to Steeldancer's topic in Sanderson Elimination
@Elandera what happened? -
Mid-Range Game 35: Final Flight
Furamirionind replied to Steeldancer's topic in Sanderson Elimination
It was a secret m-bot ability. What ship were you in? -
Mid-Range Game 35: Final Flight
Furamirionind replied to Steeldancer's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Wait, what? Ark, what did you do? -
Mid-Range Game 35: Final Flight
Furamirionind replied to Steeldancer's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Thanks Elandera/m bot for saving us. Ark, what ship were you in last night? -
Long Game 56: Discord in Elendel
Furamirionind replied to StrikerEZ's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Haha, but they cant just out the elims, because that would out them as a Kandra, and they would be lynched as well. (Plus the elims are their source of kills) Ooh, I like this hypothetical unlikely scenario... -
Long Game 56: Discord in Elendel
Furamirionind replied to StrikerEZ's topic in Sanderson Elimination
I like the idea of the Kandra in the elim team. It is also possible that in that case, the Kandra would have no extra kill? And would instead rely on the elim kill... Actually, that's unlikely as the elims would have to start killing themselves if they are too far ahead... I also think it would be too easy for the elims to find an elim!Kandra, though I admit, this does technically rely apon their secret abilities -
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Furamirionind replied to StrikerEZ's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Just checking in. Hi. I'll poke Fifth. Fifth -
Honestly, I completely think you would have played a near identical game as village. LG41 was something special, and i went into this game expecting to see you come out and try to hit the MB hard (before role PMs were sent out). I think the biggest differance, is i think you might have been a bit less agressive as village due to not being able to directly kill Zane. I also learned a lot about how you play and think from AG5. While there would come a point where village!Steel would need to disclose his information and sources, i believe village you would have done that the turn after you were lynched. When you could prove that Stick was Zane. Granted, your biggest problem would always be your role doesnt help in finding Zane... so we would have needed to fake a long PM conversation. : ) *blink* Wow, Steel, that means a lot. Thank you. I wasnt prepared to say goodbye when you died, like so many others did. I was originally planning to say goodbye after MR35, and I may do that as well, but this game feels like the right time. Unfortunately I wrote a long post, and my data cut out and I lost it up until this point, so I will be rewriting it when I get home. : P I like seeing you branch out from just role analysis, and your player analysis is much better than my first attempt. Which was MR32 (another Fifth game), where I mis-analysed and led the village to their doom, killing most of the power roles. I also agree with what you say here, but surely you understand that I am still slightly sour about getting lynched while I was away. Your reasoning on me was inconclusive enough, that had I been at a computer and had some time, I am 95% sure I could have gotten coop to vote for you instead. At which point I would have survived even with Alv's carpet being used. My initial analysis on you, people claimed felt forced, which it was... but it also was purely off the top of my head. I have an actual analysis post on my computer, pointing out suspicious interactions you had with Rath, Devotary, and Steel. However I was waiting on you to post before I posted it, so that it would be enough to discredit what you said. It was also important I had the last post, as I cant trust mostly inactive players to read the entire thread. Anyway, rambling/ranting over with, you played a good game, and with the village coming more active, you very well may have gotten me lynched D3, even with getting Rioter 1. This would have been a very differant game had I not had commitments on the weekends. Rath and I believe Steel, were both lynched over the weekend, so I had to scramble in the time I had to form an opinion on what was happening.
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Mid-Range Game 35: Final Flight
Furamirionind replied to Steeldancer's topic in Sanderson Elimination
With Elanderas double attack, even if Ark doesnt attack the Lifebuster for some reason, we should still be able to take it out. -
Hmph. I still disagree with most of Lum's analysis on me. Ok, now that I have finished reading through the docs, I must say, as fun as this game was, it was quite demoralizing at times. All of you veterans I am sure have experienced a game (or many) where you feel you have a guaranteed win, and all of a sudden it slips from you. That's what I felt. I think I go through this in the doc, as it became my place to vent. But being the only elim, I would get an epiphany, and I would write it down, and I would think, "wow, maybe I'd give myself more than a 50% chance to win this game!", and then someone like Maill or Lum will post something, and I'll go back to being convinced i lost. The biggest thing about my playstyle I have learned recently, is I seem to be a very emotional player. And I struggle if there isnt another player to ground me to reality. In the championship that was Backpack, AG5 it was Magestar, LG50 it was Bard, LG49 was Fifth/MT, and this game it was Rath. I went through so much work in PMs this game. so much. I focused primarily on finding the MB, as I felt that was the right thing to do, but I tried to keep an eye out for elim suspects too. When I started catching onto the MB's trail N2 though (mostly by chance), I got a bit fixated on finding and proving it. As disapointed as I was/am for not pulling off an elim win, after reading the docs though, I 100% claim a personal-moral victory. Not so much as a win-victory, but this is the first game I have ended, where I actually feel I have played pretty well. I was 100% certain Maill was going to push for my lynch before he died, but from what I see in the MB doc, it looks like up until he died, his read of me was still inconclusive. I definitely had CadCom and Elandera trusting me while alive. And I think the only reason Lum went after me was because I went after her first. And the best part. What truly makes me feel accomploshed: Is apperantly, the turn i died, i was given Rioter 1(?) Which may have been enough to tie for a win D9, or guarantee a win D10. (You all have no idea how hard I worked to get that Rioter 1. Fifth and Snipexe know my PMs werent long and there wern't many of them, but they were very carefully crafted, as I knew I had a limited amount of times I could ask to get Rioter 1 without sounding suspicious. How many times could I ask for it without sounding suspicious? 0. How many times did I ask? 1. Hence why I had to be so careful. : ) ) -------------- Though I had yet to put it in the elim doc due to being without internet access, my plan was to target Coop after Lum. I forgot about the action/kill-in-advance thing, and was going to probably push for that on him. If that didnt work, I intentionally left myself a trail of mislynch targets in my Lum analysis post. Next I think I had Ark, but HH and Ark were both decent targets. Edit: @Lumgol I was always planning on claiming to have redirected you N7, but I was debating still whether or not I should submit a kill or not. Whether or not I submitted a kill would have defined the game, as it changes who I can cast suspicion on in thread, who I will target with the elim kill etc. When you publically asked me to redirect you to yourself, it was a no brainer that I would not kill anyone, as regardless who the elim is, if it wasnt one of us, it would basically guarantee 2 mislynches. xD
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Mid-Range Game 35: Final Flight
Furamirionind replied to Steeldancer's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Ok, I am actively falling asleep, but you wouldnt claim this unless it was proveably true right? So I'll trust you're village. Agreed. Xino -
As per norm, I will be saving most of my thoughts until after I read the docs, however, I will start by saying what follows: I would like to first of all thank Fifth and Joe for running/whatever-Joe's-player-GM-mix-thing-was this game. It was a lot of fun, and I think probably one of the better games I have played so far. I did make a couple mistakes in the late game, which Devotary and I discussed at the end of the dead doc. I want to apologize and thank Araris. I apologize as I took issue with my reasoning to lynch you. I dont like lynching people for activity, and you were correct that the only reason you truly got lynched, was you were one of the only players to contribute actual content. As the force behind your lynch, I appologize for pushing it. I also thank you, as your noble sacrifice was, I believe, a big part in why people trusted me throughout the game. Even though you won this game with the village, I grant you the honorary title of "Lekal's Sympathizer". Umm, you dont have to accept it, I just want you to know you were appreciated. : ) ---------------------- I want to thank the rest of my team as well. Devotary led the team through solid analysis. We had a couple back and forths in thread I believe, and she also helped me not out myself as an elim when I tried to unite the village against the MB, and helped me word my posts so that I wouldnt provoke a MB kill on myself. Steel for his distancing and analysis. While I was originally going to redirect Stick/Maill to themself N2 instead of HH, Steel had to convince me to redirect her N3 as I wanted to target Maill instead. Steel also did remarkable distancing from me, and allowed me, while suspiciously hedging on his lynch, to not look suspicious when he flipped. Rath for his steadiness and calmness throughout the game, helping to anchor me to reality. Also with a lot of help with the future planning for the late game. And now I was ninja'd by Araris, so I'll post it now. : ) Edit: @Cadmium Compounder, I also want you to know, I never told the elims your role. I dont break my promises : P You can read what I said in the elim doc. xD
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The last part (first part in your post) was for Snipexe. Going after the mistborn is NAI especially after they started killing elims. That is very, very much 100% false. Why am I pushing for your lynch if I want you alive to soak up my suspicions? Killing anyone else would also have been possible? If I am an elim, why didnt I kill snipexe? HH? Coop? Straw? Snipexe is dangerous and HH and straw have shown they arent 100% inactive. Especially straw. A no kill would have been better a cycle ago to avoid Coop getting cleared (hi @coop772 I see you). Coop was basically a guaranteed mislynch then. Your logic makes no sense. Also, why are you pushing for my lynch in the one time over the entire week I cant properly respond? I put my suspicions of you out almost a week ago. If we can get at least coop and another active villager, I will accept my lynch, but currently I am afraid we will lose the game to inactivity tonight with a mislynch.
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Data connection is inconsistant and I am at my theater. I can address everything Lum has said about me, some is just plain false, though her biggest arguements are good. but as I am running sound, I dont have time to address them. The quickest response I can give is, if I am an elim, and I am casting suspicion on you, I wouldnt want you dead, as once you die, I am now a suspect. So I still would have submitted a kill to minimize the chance of getting lynched imidiately after you. I also would be pushing for someone I dont think I will imidiately get lynched, as that way i have another turn before suspicion of me gets too high. Hopefully this post makes sense as it is rushed. That's all the time I have. I will try to be on before rollove Also, I redirected stick to herself twice. That's how we caught stick. I saw she was smoked, claimed a role Zane had, then I forced her to attack herself.
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Mid-Range Game 35: Final Flight
Furamirionind replied to Steeldancer's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Dont clear bard yet. Please, someone check his interactions with Maill/Joe? A Gaea bus is something I'd do as elim. -
Mid-Range Game 35: Final Flight
Furamirionind replied to Steeldancer's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Xino did not submit an action last night... Edit: I've almost reached a no-data zone. I want to look into Bards reactions to Joe and Maill. I can see him bussing Gaea as an inactive -
Mid-Range Game 35: Final Flight
Furamirionind replied to Steeldancer's topic in Sanderson Elimination
@Ax's Boyfriend who do you find suspicious? And why? I trust Elanderas claim. I dont see any other reasonable outcome other than the truth. I am getting much worse in my illness, and will be at my theater. So I will not have great activity this turn. Will be back for a vote. -
Welcome back to the land of the living Snipexe! : ) This post explains why I am suspicious of Lum: I redirected her to herself last night, however, there was no kill to redirect. As she knew I was redirecting her, she would have died if she had submitted the kill... Hence why there was no kill. I have not been able to do a thorough reread of Lum's interactions as I was intending, however, if I am able to today, I will post what I find.
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Mid-Range Game 35: Final Flight
Furamirionind replied to Steeldancer's topic in Sanderson Elimination
My reasoning for me not being an elim is that I get both Maill and Gaea killed almost singlehandedly. Basically, the purpose of my entire post is, "stop shooting players" -
Mid-Range Game 35: Final Flight
Furamirionind replied to Steeldancer's topic in Sanderson Elimination
I am so confused with how fast the game is going. It feels like it should be a day turn... I am very surprised by how effective shooting players has been this game, but I dont think the elims will have more than 2 gunners, so shooting players is pointless. As I got both Gaea and Maill killed, I think im basically cleared, so you know im not saying that to save myself from being shot. Oh, iv also proved im not a gunner as well, so there is that. -
Mid-Range Game 35: Final Flight
Furamirionind replied to Steeldancer's topic in Sanderson Elimination
The elims have to chip in. Anyone in a largo? I'm in a poco. We are far in the late game. You can use largo missiles. -
Mid-Range Game 35: Final Flight
Furamirionind replied to Steeldancer's topic in Sanderson Elimination
@Young Bard I'm sorry if I'm missing something obvious, but my head isnt in the game tonight. How does me being in Fresa-2 mean Gaea is not in a ship? I was also just about to edit into my post above that Elandera is throwing me off. She votes on me, a player that has been publicly soft cleared, doesnt explain it, and her resistance to the lynch against her seems feeble. Elandera xxGaea -
Mid-Range Game 35: Final Flight
Furamirionind replied to Steeldancer's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Wait, I just missed Striker died... darn. Ok. Hey everyone, i think we should do a mass ship/action claim for last night. I was in Fresa-2, and shot at 1E. -
Mid-Range Game 35: Final Flight
Furamirionind replied to Steeldancer's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Are you saying you think Drake lied? -
Wow... it's kind if sad that Fifth was able to basically say exactly what happened over the entire previous turn in the writeup... like, those were almost litterally the words Lum and I used. Also, is the response indicitave of a Joe response, or is that just flavor? I meant to post more last turn, but I have spent most of today sleeping due to being sick. Oh, thanks Fifth for tagging me as well. I might have forgotten to post otherwise. : P --------------------- No one was attacked. I have checked everyone's profiles, and everyone save Snipexe and Coop were online last turn. Coop was already hard cleared, and Snipexe publically implied Hazekiller and has claimed it in PMs. If anyone wants to counterclaim Snipexe, do so now. Assuming Snipexe then is hardcleared, that means the elim intentionally failed to submit a kill. As Lum couldnt submit a kill, and due to my previous analysis on her, she is where my vote is. Lumgol
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