Meg

I go with Windrunner and the others, that don't want more WoT. Not because WoT isn't good -- WoT is unique -- but WoT is WoT and now it's finished. And I dare saying that neither Brandon nor Harriet want more stuff in RJ's world. That was how I understood Brandon's answers to questions on this matter.

First I apologize for my late answer. And I'm adding my disclaimer: I'm not native English speaking so I might be hard to understand and surely I sometimes misunderstand others. Here comes my first request: I've thought about this sentence now a few times but I don't get it. Is there a "no" missing (... the fact there is no evidence ...)? "Shards of the Shard of Honor" would be Splinters if I'm not totally wrong. This is an interesting idea, indeed. Ah, yes, I wrote "a kind of" but looking up "of sorts" I see this fits better. I got this from the Prelude. Kalak said to Jezrien. I didn't want to claim that the Heralds are divinities, but they are (seen as) divinities of sorts. One big (large?) difference is, that the Heralds are immortal. But both, Heralds and KR are humans. When the Heralds die they were cast back into damnation. IIRC this would happen after they left the Oathpact, too. And I think it's what people on Roshar think. (TWoK, Chapter 58) And the Honorblades are different from Shardblades (also from the Prelude): I don't have an idea :-). I've to admit that this passage is bit "too much". So for now only one -- presumably -- wrong note: About Kaladin and the Words I'm not that convinced than most or some others here. But I'm far too tired to be able to argue about that conclusively now. Please feel free to correct or/and rebut me :-).

Please help me about this: Which KR do you mean? This one that seemingly talked to Dalinar?

I tripped over another odd name: "Longshadow" Navani mentions it when she explained the development of the painrial (TWoK, Chapter 60), though I've to admit that I can't really make out from the text whether I'm not terrible wrong about this.

Hi! I just looked this passage up, but there's not written "Alethi" highprinces, Szeth reads "Six highprinces?" As for Jah Keved has highprinces too, and because Szeth must have had been on the Shattered Plains to kill 6 Alethi highprinces as they are all (or? no, one is not there, but I don't remember which one) on the Shattered Plains due to the War of Reckoning, I'm sure at least 5 of this murdered highprinces were from Jah Keved (given that the other kingdoms have no highprinces). And because I think that the murder of an Alethi highprince would have upset the whole warcamp, I'm quite sure that all 6 "highprinces" are not Alethi. My apologizes for being bit of a wiseacre :-). Meg

They did, at least during Nohadon's lifetime: Cheese Ninja quoted this in the OP too. What respectively when do you mean with "a recent development?" Maybe I'm totally wrong, I misunderstand you or I missed something significant: Do you have a reference about "commonly accepted is that the highstorms are a result of Honor's death." I'd appreciate to get this reference or to be taught what I missed. Why should they be stronger? The Heralds are kind of divinities, surely stronger even than the KR with their Nahel bond. And one more question: You say the Oathpact manipulated the spren. And you wondered if spren are a more recent event after Honor died. This implies that Honor was dead when the Oathpact was formed. Please don't feel offended because of my comments and requests.

This is a really fine theory though I'm not convinced. Sorry. Where do you get the idea, that "they really have no idea about?" This people knew the Knights Radiant, may some of them fought with them or at least saw them fighting. I'm nearly sure, that 'normal' soldiers were envious of the KR about their Shardplates and Shardblades and their abilities -- even if they didn't know how that worked. And here the greed come into play. Back again: We (aka Dalinar) didn't see what happened following this vision. So maybe you're right and they had to give up the Shardplates for not being able wearing them. But the Blades? They seem to work for everybody. Did they have to tell it this way? Did they have to return? Did they have to admit that they "slaughtered everyone ...?" You see I'm not believing in the good thing inside mankind :-). But ... I think my objections don't leverage your theory itself.

Shallan tells us, that different gems give different results. I understand this as the gems determine which result the Soulcast-process will have. As for practice is necessary there would not be used the most valuable gems for it. And I think that it's not obligatory that each Soulcaster is identical to Jasnah's/Davar's Soulcaster (in their form and which gems (and spren) are built in). So different Soulcasters will spawn different results. Which is nearly the same like your idea. You emphasized "visiting" and I feel this is important. I think "Visiting" =|= "going to Shadesmar for Soulcasting.", but I can't explain that feeling (while writing it I found my first attempt of justification wrong). As for the "evil ardents": I would say it's common that all things can be seen from different ways. If the ardents are Soulcasters that does not necessarily mean that "the ordinary ardent running around through the country" can't call the Radiants demons. That's for the average population and doesn't have to be the way the Ardentia sees itself. I hope I could show what I want to point out.

Oh, I hope the spren wasn't destroyed but freed. (poor sprens :/)

I've to admit that my "Soulcasters =|= fabrials"-theory seems wrong as in chapter 5 it's stated explicitly that the word "Soulcaster" also means "the fabrial" that makes soulcasting possible. I'm sorry. Can anyone explain which of the five types of fabrials that are mentioned in the Ars Arcanum is for Soulcasting? I can't figure it out (I'm slow on the update :-)). Thus if Soulcasters are fabrials and fabrials need captivated spren -> the repaired Soulcaster could not have worked. Or?

There it is: Dalinar's power

Serio-comical: I found Urithiru. Err ... There is a tale about Parasaphi who climbed the peaks of Dara to find stones touched by the Heralds themselves (intending to repopulate her fallen people and so founding Marnah, the Origin of the Makabaki). I think the Heralds had been in Urithiru too (as for the "steps crafted for Heralds" seem to have been in Urithiru? TWoK Epigraph Ch. 36). But, I've to admit, I don't really have an idea where these peaks of Dara might be/have been. EDIT: Idea discarded because I didn't think about chronology.

Vstim affirmed in Rysn's Interlude (I-4) to Thresh that As for the Soulcasters I think they are no fabrials. If I understand it right, each fabrial contains a spren. I don't think Soulcasters contain spren -- or this is the explanation why Shallan's 'repaired' Soulcaster didn't work (but Luesh should have known that gems with trapped spren would have been needed to make the Soulcaster work again). But, maybe, I'm totally wrong.

That was here: Gavilar's Shardblade and Shardarmor (post no. 13 and following)

A similar question is put in this thread.

I like quoting :-) (TWoK, Chapter 6, Bridge Four) Aside from the abrasion of the bridges, wouldn't the (sure existing) lots of loose (smaller or bigger) stones work as, err, little wheels?

Hi Martinitram, welcome to the forums. For helping: this quote you refer to is the epigraph of the prologue.

I found this on Mr. Ahlstroms Twitter: (emphasizes mine) link to twitter If there is a possibility to link to twitter I didn't discover . edit: Ah thanks Kurkistan; it's not exactly the same as yours but the result is the same.

This would mean Vorinism worships Odium? And what did Odium transform on Sel (I think your hinting on the Shaod)? I've to admit that I can't really follow this idea, sorry. I don't deny this but I didn't think of Vun Makak and Nu Ralik as gods but as "heralds to be awaited for coming back". I hope this is understandable. Though they may be revered like gods I would not give them the same 'rank' as Honor/Odium/Cultivation etc. Could this mean that Yolen had been the ur-planet where Adanalsium was the only Shard. /Speculation: And now it grows immoderate random and fantastic: (Premise: We don't know whether Yolen still exists ->) There was something like a Big Bang, Adanalsium was shattered into the different shards and Yolen was shattered into the different planets in the cosmere. /end of speculation Ohh, when I read this I thought: "You should have known/remembered that." :-)

Oh, that's nice. Drehy said "By the Brightcaller's rays" (singular). And Talenelat names himself "Talenel'Elin, Stonesinew (essence: Talus which is not only the bone in our feet but a scree too). Reading "rays" I remembered the picture of "The Relief of Nalan'Elin, a Herald". His essence (vapor) doesn't really match with (sun)rays but I don't want to claim that Brightcaller == Nalan, I merely try to get a connection. I'm considering if each Herald might have had such a byname (perhaps related to special abilities (and therefor 10 orders)). "Brightcaller" might have matched with Vedeledev (essence: Lucentia).

There came some random thoughts up in my brain (once again). 1. The Almighty/Honor is the "Creator of Mankind". He is also named Elithanathile, who is "He Who Transforms" 1.1 "He Who Transforms" may be another hint that surgebinding and soulcasting are from Honor. 1.2 But: What did Honor "transform" to "create mankind"? 1.3 Roshar is in the same cosmere as Sel, Nalthis and Scadrial, right? There are humans too. From TWoK we know that around 4'500 years before TWoK there had been mankind on Roshar too, cast out from the Tranquiline Hills. Question: Did not all humans strand on Roshar, because where should these on the other planets come from? So mankind on the other planets had been cast out of the Tranquiline Hills (Heaven?) too? I don't think that Honor created different kinds of mankind. But then what about Preservation and Ruin? Questions about questions ... 2. Similarities in phrases 2.1 The "Prime Kadasix may provide ...". The Purelaker God "send that ...". 2.2 I'm not sure, but can Van Makak and Nu Ralik be Purelaker names for Heralds (and so be revered as gods like Jezrien in Sesemalex Dar)? It may be (I'm not sure) that Ishikk is from Yulay and there are some people awaiting the Heralds. 2.3 Elithanathile is "He Who Transforms" and the Shin revere "He Who Adds". 3. People in Yulay Might they be another group of Envisagers or wittingly or unwittingly related? I wonder why Teft didn't react to Sigzil when he brought this up. 4. Stormlight A human body is too porous a container, said Szeth, about holding Stormlight. The next problem is that Stormlight flees the body when breathing. Now when somebody infused more Stormlight than he spends he has to release the rest unused. Stormlight can be willed into stones or other objects (Kaladin when he pressed the sack of medical things at the barrel, later the stone in one of the alleys between the barracks, the stones he used as ladder). Now my question is: Can't (or better why can't) Stormlight be willed back into spheres and -- on the other side -- (why) can't Stormlight not be taken from infused objects? Am I splitting hairs? Or has someone also ideas about this? edit: added point 1.3 edit 2013, April 6 -- added point 4 (and repaired post)

Many thanks! I've read this but I messed the informations up, sorry.

Err, thanks for your warm words, Ninja. I'm as red as a beetroot now, nearly glowing. Really. Inkthinker, I hoped not to offend anybody when I smiled seeing which path the thread took even with my intentional OP (that didn't include theories about the "what is the safe hand for/about"). Please feel free to go into my expressions if they are mistakeable and also to correct mistakes. At topic: I have to admit that I'm liable to mess up the timeline (or other things) and sometimes I neither take the book nor look in the wiki to look something up. Both actions normally bring me about getting caught up there :-).

Please, may I ask for a quote? IIRC Brandon said, that Dalinar might not survive book 5. But I did not understand this as Dalinar dies before "his" book. "His" isn't the SA2 (that's for Shallan) and because he wasn't sure whether he does Dalinar or Shallan first, maybe Dalinar "gets" SA3. As for this I think Dalinar will at least survive until the end of his book.I might be wrong there or didn't understand Brandon right. As for a flashback book for a dead character I fear it might be Kaladin (because this would be his second flashback book). (I don't want Kaladin to die :/). Or Szeth, if he dies trying to kill Dalinar. As said above, if I understood Brandon right, Dalinar will not survive until the end of the series. But I think you got an interesting point on the question what timespan the (coming) books have. As about Kaladin I go with Voidus (equal strength, element of surprise). Yes, I'm biased :-).

Bah, I don't like Gaz. Jezrien would be a real good actor when playing the role of Gaz. And, only because I don't like Gaz, I go with Teft and his Envisagers-ancestors. edit: after reading Ninjas posting: I didn't want to say that Teft (or whoever is this hidden herald) has to be Jezrien, sorry for not being exactly.