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Candidates: Susebron and Rysn among humans, Stormfather among spren, Nightblood is its own category. But Rysn is more invested than Susebron, both Stormfather and Nightblood too, so it's the competition between those three. I would say Stormfather, because he holds the biggest remnants of Honor, which puts him halfway to becoming a Shard. Hoid held Dawnshard in the past, but not now, that makes him less invested than Rysn and Susebron. SP4 spoilers WoB: Here is the decisive WoB - Nightblood is less invested than Stormfater: Between Rysn and Stormfather, I say Stormfather is more invested, because of Honor's pieces, but that's because we don't know how much invested Dawnshards are. Both of them can rightfully be claimed to be the most invested entities in Cosmere (without Shards). Tress spoilers are not allowed in this subforum. Please edit your post, by clicking the "edit" at the bottom of your post and either put it in a spoiler box (with information that's a TotES spoiler) or just delete it. Here is more useful tips:
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alder24 replied to The Stick's topic in Cosmere Discussion
Yes, but she didn't laugh at Vin but at the idea of what would happen to the house of Venture after that. The same, but she asked for money earlier, and because she didn't say "more" one could argue that she didn't demand more money for the Allomacy secret. She just want the same amount of money for what she told about "Vin's uncle". Is this even related to what we're talking about anymore? I don't see a point with Kliss. That's right, she had the feeling of shame to begin with, Wax didn't fear death anymore, thus there is no emotion to be rioted. What are you talking about? It doesn't matter that you know you're being smoothed/rioted. This doesn't make you immune to emotional Allomancy. It's not about realization that you're being rioted, it's about realization that you don't feel that feeling at all - that's what happened to Wax. He faced death already, in that moment he just realized that he didn't need to fear it anymore, and the fear went away. Only after that, he realized that he was exposed to emotional Allomancy. Not before. It's about feelings. Marasi literally stated that she was feeling that her entire life "She’d lived with some of these fears for her entire life.". It's not only shame, it's also the feeling of worthlessness etc. Who knows what Entrone was feeling? Maybe he was ashamed that he failed Autonomy, that she didn't choose his plan, that she chose Telsin to be her Avatar, not him, that he failed her? You can't say that he didn't feel it if there is no PoV of his. Kind of. But 0.001 x 3 gives 0.003, however times 1000000 gives 1000. Maybe they were a bit irritated, not enough for rioting? Or 0 times infinity is undefined. -
Fine fine fine. I am finishing OB.
alder24 replied to Tamriel Wolfsbaine's topic in Cosmere Discussion
It's not that Nergaoul is/was an invested art (how a single spren can be whole invested art?), It's that all invested arts operate by the same rules and influence people's emotions to some degree. It's good that you see similarities, because that is the point of it. Nergaoul just uses the same mechanism to the greater effect to increase people's will to fight and open them to Odium's control in some rare cases. -
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alder24 replied to The Stick's topic in Cosmere Discussion
Not exactly that, she already told Vin that Elend will die, therefore risking getting exposed which made her fear retribution a little. Fear was there before Vin revealed herself with Allomancy, which she explained during her struggle with emotional Allomancy with words "never sell(s) secrets... if there's a chance they'll turn against (her)". Just saying that Elend will die is putting her at risk, which she did before soothing and rioting. She made a mistake assuming that Vin will be happy to hear that. Shan laughed about Vin "acting" and her spreading false information - not after emotional Allomancy. And after that she didn't say she wanted more money, only that Vin had to make sure the money would reach Kliss (likely meaning the same bribe as mentioned earlier with Renoux). The only moment she laughed is when Vin said she is going to save Elend. It's Cosmere forum. She didn't stop feeling it, she realized that she was always living with that feeling and this is nothing new to her, she could deal with it, but was still feeling it. Feeling of disturbance doesn't make you realize that you don't feel emotions at all, like Wax in TLM. I admit, Wax burning copper there is a valid explanation, but I believe that was Wax realizing that he didn't fear death anymore, because he faced it already. It's just more impactful. Who else can tell that he died, came back and realized he doesn't fear death anymore? -
I am glad that I can help. Feel free to ask about anything. Enlightening... Am I Sja-anat now?
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It's clearly more than speculation, extrapolation at least: "Some have been experimenting with your idea,” VenDell said, “and early results are promising.". BoM says it's probable, so probable is a canon. But the most recent WoB (the last one 2018) said it's not possible - so that might clarify BoM's "probable". Moreover there is this WoB that straight up says things with identity could change when he starts writing Era 3 - so we will see in the future how it works.
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Well there was a voice whispering to him (maybe Harmony?), BoM ch 29: For me the description clearly indicates that Wax has seen something more than physical. We also know that steel lines are spiritual in nature and because all souls exist in SR, there is no difference if they are in PR or CR - based on that I see no reason why a powerful steelsight won't be able to see beyond Physical Realm.
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alder24 replied to The Stick's topic in Cosmere Discussion
I'm reading it (not english version), WoA ch 50. Allrianne has never mentioned about chivalry, instead she thought about how she was able to manipulate them by looking like a lady in expensive dress and promise a great monetary reward, it is greed that she rioted. Nothing about chivalry. Shallan achieved the same result by using bandits' feeling of chivalry and heroism without Emotional Allomancy. This proves that there might be bandits that just wait for an opportunity to become "good guys" again. Maybe because Vin first treated her with powerful soothing? Or Kriss was revealing her status as an informator, putting her livelihood and security in her hands? Or maybe she was revealing the secret of Shan who was a Mistborn and was an assassin working with Straff - if Vin intervened and failed, Shan, or worse Straff (she knew he was involved), would come to Kliss and kill her? Kliss didn’t fear Vin, the last option is the most likely source of her fear. Kliss revealed that Elend would die because she falsely assumed Vin would be glad to hear that after being dumped ("So Elend Venture turned you down after all. Don't worry, child. He'll get what he deserves soon.", "Didn't that boy just push you away? What do you owe him?"), thus she didn’t risk that somebody would try to prevent it from happening. Which is something she even told Vin: "I never sell secrets like this if there's a chance they'll turn against me!". No emotions were created here. I see emotional Allomancy as a multiplicative factor - 0 times whatever number you take always gives 0. Another example of Rioting comes from TLM: I'm not saying that emotional Allomancy isn't useful in our world, only that you don't want to be too blunt with it, as people will realize that something is wrong. You can surely be less careful than on Scadrial, but it is still recognizable, so don't overdo it. Just that. -
Intent matters. It really looks like Kel's spike is empty, as he has no powers from it, and it only stamples his soul back to the body. I think Kelsier's soul is the invested charge of the spike, but not in the normal sense, his soul was dragged by the spike and place into the hole made in the body's soul.
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True. But theoretically there is a hole in the body, so this might allow her to push coins for a bit. Or it's magic, it has magical momentum or something.
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Welcome to the Shard. Splinters, Spren are splinters. Sliver is a person that once held power of the Shard and gave it up, splinters were never a person, they are investiture that gained sentience and self-awareness. In the case of Soulcaster and ancient fabrials, those might be made out of god metals, it's unclear yet, as some of them have recognizable basic metals. But Shardblades and Shardplate are an alloy of 2 god metals - Tanavastium and Koravellium - but because they are an alloy, they have a bit different properties than pure god metals. Plus they are made out of sapient spren. They are not pure Tanavastium or Koravellium, they are an alloy of those two. No, Harmonium is not an alloy of Atium and Lerasium: Two possibilities here, first one, because of the WoB above telling that all Shardblades are the same alloy, Glys would also create the same alloy of Tanavastium and Koravellium. The second option is because he is invested by Odium, the Shardblade would be a new alloy of 3 god metals: Tanavastium, Koravellium and Raysium (far cooler names ). No need for spoiler box with RoW Yes, that's pure Tanavastium. We don't know what would happen if Mistborn were to burn it. In case of alloys, like Shardblades or Sibling's god metal, it's possible yet hard for Mistborn to burn that, but Mistborn has no tie to this type of investiture, which would prevent it from happening. For now we don't know much about this unfortunately.
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There probably is, but that's a lot of Breaths. HoA spoilers: No idea, there likely are limits of that: Atom isn't alive, never was. You would have a hard time doing that as you can't touch atoms.
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No, both Steris and Wax grew a lot thanks to their relationship, Steris changed for the better, became more confident and sociable, while Wax was able to move on from Lessie and willingly marry another woman. Thanks to Steris, Wax took interest in his duties as a lord, took care of his business, saved his family from falling into bankruptcy and became an influential political figure. He changed from a simple lawman to lord Ladrian. They were so good together. None of this would be possible if Wax chose Marasi instead. They wouldn't grow. Wax would still be a lawman first, and his family businesses would likely bankrupt. Not to mention that Marasi and Allik are cute together - don't you dare separate them! Steris is the worst choice for Wayne - they hated each other and didn't understand each other at all. That could be a very toxic relationship. Edit: That's my opinion at least, you're free to have a different one
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There are contradicting sources on that, BoM ch 3: WoB below is about medallions, but it shows that it's possible to be blanked and tap not blanked metalminds: WoB below says it's not possible, the most recent one (contradicting BoM):
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alder24 replied to The Stick's topic in Cosmere Discussion
I don't believe you can create emotions even with zinc. You can't influence emotions that aren't there. Vin when sneaking into Fadrex cave tried to riot guards' emotions with no result - only duralumin made her succeed. Zinc + duralumin might be able to create emotions, but normal zinc does not. People don't need to know about Allomancy to quickly realize that they have a crazy emotional rollercoaster only when they're speaking with you - they will start to avoid you, suspect something weird is happening, do the opposite of what their emotions are telling them, or call you a witch. Just avoid brute forcing people's emotions. -
Honorblades disappear with Heralds death or when they return to Braize. I think Honorblades were not only made to aid them in fights during First Desolation, but also for Heralds to fight with them in Braize. Shardblades can cut sprens (OB, Kholinar palace, Syl cut corrupted painspren), and spren can be hurt in CR (Notum, RoW). Also Vorin religion teaches about eternal fight to reclaim the Tranquiline Halls, I think there might me a grain of truth in that story - Heralds were meant to fight for eternity with Fused cognitive form and Honorblades were made for this. Only Heralds would have weapons on Braize, Fused and Voidspren would not have anything like that, nor access to their surges - they were binded in their cognitive form in CR and the planet itself is a barren wasteland with no life on it - which means no weapons to manifest in CR. Honorblades would have given Heralds a significant edge in fighting. But as it was proven, 10 people can’t fight a mob forever.
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Yeah, I think by the nature of Hemalurgy, a spike in the eye replaces the eye with a steelsight (if the spike is from iron or steel) and it doesn't matter if it's empty if there was the right intent present. Every spike changes the body, spikes in eyes twist the body and brain around them to accommodate them - it twists and cracks the soul in those places. Your explanation sounds possible, by having cracks in the eyes, with metal made of iron/steel acting like a filter, you can see connections in the Spiritual Realm, your eye is looking through the Spiritual Realm into the Physical Realm. Or something like that.
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Yes, the larger but lighter coins were cutting fully through Koloss' body (quote above). Coins make a big hole, bullets are smaller and would make a smaller hole through the body, despite having a greater kinetic energy. That's why I said hitting non-vital parts wouldn't kill Koloss as they just ignored coins passing through their body when fighting VIn.
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Can they use other Ferrings metalminds? They are only the aluminum Ferring and don't have any other Feruchemical ability other than that, so they can't use another person's metalminds unless it's aluminummind. I guess they could do some wierd stuff with identity, but what's that is unknown for now.
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I was lazy and I didn't want to write the long word "oxygen" so I wrote O instead, but meaning O2. Yes, in breathable form. Molecules in the atmosphere, no separation of oxygen from carbon dioxide or monoxide, those two are other molecules that I think could be stored separately with Intent. No atoms storing, molecules storing only. That can be true, but it would limit the potential of Cadmium in my opinion. This is more similar to gold healing. But is that only "state of body heaving breath"? From Coppermind: The description suggests that oxygen is directly provided into the bloodstream. If the effect of cadmium is happening not in lungs but in blood, this changes how it works a bit. Oxygen is stored and oxygen is transported by red blood cells, like CO and CO2 - so my idea still might work, and either whatever molecules get to your bloodstream can be stored separately, or just those that are transported by your red blood cells (hydrogen and nitrogen might be included in that, by google).
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I think it's 6 months for SP1, it came out on the 1st of January. But as long as there is a separate subforum for this book, it must be spoiler-tagged everywhere else.
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Are the listeners/singers mammalian?
alder24 replied to Chadolin Kholin's topic in Stormlight Archive
She can hear them, RoW ch 110: But yes, she was first taught the Rhythm, and she learned how to hear them by herself, RoW ch 76:
