Jump to content

alder24

Members
  • Posts

    6208
  • Joined

  • Last visited

  • Days Won

    34

Everything posted by alder24

  1. Hahaha, that's so true. Recently we just keep arguing everywhere over every little thing
  2. I hope it's getting shorter. I don't agree. Tapping is like burning as Feruchemist feels reserves of attributes just like Allomancer feels reserves of metals. In storing there is nothing that can be felt. That's more like Allomancy. You're taking general investiture and filtering it through the metal. But in Feruchemy, you are taking your body's attributes, something that you know, something that already has a shape and you put it in metal. There is no general investiture that you draw. you convert your body into specific investiture, but you need to know which part of your body to convert otherwise you can't do it at all. I really have no idea how to describe the same thing in 10 different ways. I'm repeating myself here and it sounds worse than before. That's how you can describe Allomancy. But in Feruchemy you don't have that water solution. I'm not familiar with chemistry enough to answer those analogies. In Feruchemy you do not draw investiture from the outside source, the power comes from your own body, and for this you need to know which part of your body to convert into investiture and pour into a metalmind. In Feruchemy it's more like you have 16 different blocks, each have a different shape, and 16 different holes, each have a different shape. One block fits only into one hole and no other. You need to put each block into a corresponding hole, and for this you need to know what that block looks like. That's your attribute. A hole is a metalmind, your filter. You can start guessing and try to fit a random block into a chosen hole, but you need to know that block is a part of the toy set - that's the intent. For figuring out what can be stored in new metal: you have a one star-shaped hole, and 100 blocks hidden in your room. Yes you need to find them, each has a different shape but only one will fit through that hole. But those blocks exist, you need to search your room, find them all and start trying to fit every block through that hole. 99 won't fit, 1 will, that's the attribute which can be stored in that new metal. Your proposal just makes a block out of thin air that you didn't even know existed before, already on the other side of that hole. In Allomancy you have one block made out of plasticine - that's Preservation's investiture - and 16 holes, you squeeze that plasticine block through every hole and what comes on the other side has a shape of that hole, like circle, cube, star etc. The molecular structure of metals is important in Feruchemy, it determines what can be stored inside, but because the power is internal, not external like in Allomancy, you need to know what to take and store in the first place. You need to have that specific intent. Yes, you're using advanced chemistry as an analogy, I'm using toys for 1 year old kids. That summarizes my current mental state perfectly. Here I'm angry. IT DOESN'T MATTER. THAT ISN'T IMPORTANT. Stop focusing on that. What's important is that if a Feruchemist doesn't know what to store, he can't store it. Harmony will know, it doesn't mean he will share, but he knows what to store in Atium-aluminum alloy. Maybe if Atium-alluminum alloy was needed for Wayne to stop the bomb, Harmony would tell him what it does, and he wouldn't have to guess what to store there. But that's not important, stop focusing on that. Yes, that's right. Limitations, very harsh limitations. With Fullmind it would be far easier, as it stores anything. Just take a random guess and you have a fair chances that you'll find a Feruchemical attribute. Nail growth speed - sure it can be stored. Eye color intensity - yes it can. Neuron transmission speed - yup. Spiritual ancestry - it fits. Take a random guess and you'll find one of 10^19000 attribute. You'll never know which metal stores it, but that doesn't matter as long as you have your Fullmind. Easier? Yes. But why does it matter? Why does it need to be easier? You noticed it yourself that your system breaks down with a Fullmind, as you'll be able to store something which is everything. You're halfway through accepting my idea, just take a next step No, that's not how my idea works. Investiture is formless, but your physical body isn't formless, it has clearly defined shape and function. That's why you need to know what to store, as you aren't dealing with formless investiture, like in Allomancy, you're dealing with your body. Is one month a long time? Ruin's power does a lot. And his mind. That's really important. Hemalurgically acquired powers might draw from Ruin instead of Preservation. But Hemalurgy itself is strongly tied to Ruin. Ruin directly fueled Marsh at the end of HoA. His investiture must be involved in the spiking process. Somehow. Spikes, containing Preservation's investiture (Allomancy), repel Mist like Ruin's investiture would do - it means there is Ruin's investiture inside that spike, either it corrupted Preservation's investiture, or added to it Ruin's investiture. Marasi did like 40x compression to get to Mach 1, that was a loooooooot of hours of stored speed. That's why it ran out quite fast. There was math done on that by therunner somewhere recently on the Mistborn subforum, likely on a topic about compounding. Very beautiful math. Yes. If you count them like that. SA: Feruchemy is detectable by Seekers only when storing or tapping, as only then it's in kinetic form. Because you're taking a part of your body/soul, which is made out of both Ruin and Preservation, what is stored in metalminds is likely a combination of those two investiture (and because Feruchemy is the result of both of Shards). On Scadrial human soul is composed of both Ruin and Preservation's investiture, with Preservation's fragment (giving Allomancy) stuck in between them. Taking something like strength would take both Ruin and Preservation's investiture out of your soul. Now that we mention that, can this be a reason why using attributes always create a hemalurgic constructs like Koloss? You're taking a piece of Ruin which would Ruin even more of the recipient's body, turning it into a monster, which taking powers like Allomancy and Feruchemy takes Preservation's fragment and is mostly pure Preservation, which doesn't create such drastic changes. Yes, but put that in a spoiler box Competition? Nah, @therunner is one of the best on the forum in making logical and compelling arguments, with whom I have the pleasure of quarrelling discussing. I can't compete with him. Edit: @Underwater_Worldhopper I've found the WoB, SA spoilers:
  3. Alendi was also spiked, it's likely that just like in Vin's case, Ruin make sure to give him double bronze as well: Very likely. Ruin spiked out bronze out of Vin's little sister. What were the chances that she was burning bronze? Slim, yet Ruin somehow knew it. At the times of Alendi Mists were snapping people into Misting, Alendi was one of them. Ruin just needed to spike one of many new Mistings and give that spike to Alendi - which could have happened just like with Spook, spiked during fighting. People didn't need to know there were Allomancers, they were burning metals etc, but Ruin would know that. That's also very likely. Keep in mind, that wasn't just a perpendicularity, that was Preservation's mind, immense amount of power, keeping Ruin's mind imprisoned. He was, that's why Ruin's mist was there too. His mind was kept imprisoned there, able to only glimpse into PR on rhythms sent out by the Well. Yes, but Allomancy was unknown at that time, even Alendi didn't know how he was able to hear pulses. But I think nobody else but Alendi and Vin were able to hear them. Marsh has never mentioned them, he was almost as strong as Vin, he should be able to hear them. And I've found the WoB saying that pulses of the Well were hearable to all Allomancers, but later when they were stronger. Vin was able to hear them earlier because of her double bronze:
  4. Fair point. I see two explanations - not all could be transported, or some return there later from Roshar. I think you severely underestimate human's endurance, resourcefulness and brutality they're capable of. We're not talking about dozens or hundreds of first settlers in America, we're talking about hundreds of thousands or millions of people, suddenly appearing on Roshar. And do you think that humans conquer all of Roshar in a single generation? No, I highly doubt so. Let's create a detailed possible scenario of the First Human Desolation: Humans arrive in Roshar and settle in Shinovar. There is some contact between Singers and humans, there is trade, conversation, Singers share their knowledge of Roshar with humans in Shinovar. Some might even still live there. Relations are friendly. Singers were helping humanity out of pity or Shards command. That would give humans a basic understanding of Roshar. Just like the first settlers in America kept friendly relations with local tribes, traded with them, hired them as guides etc, the same would happen here. The Eila Stele: After a few months or years humans, dissatisfied with what they were given, launch a surprise attack across mountain ranges with significant, concentrated forces (not all needs to be warriors, it could start with settlers making their home among Singers which would cause disagreements, later developed into a casus belli for the invasion) - Dawnsingers are taken completely by surprise and are unable to mount a effective defense, their forces are spread across whole Roshar while humans are concentrated in a small area. Humans completely overrun Singers forcing them out. Humans turn Dawnsingers into slaves or second class citizens on conquered lands. They do the work from them, farming, herding, resource mining and processing. Human settlers are learning from them how to adapt to this new environment and work with new resources. Settlers take over Dawnsinger's home, soldiers take their weapons and carry on with the invasion. They treat every betrayal with harsh punishments but treat collaborators well, giving them “normal” life. How to avoid Highstorms? Take multiple Dawnsingers as prisoners (even before the invasion started), separate them and ask each of them independently when Highstorms are coming, if their answer will differ, they're lying - kill them all and their families too. After a few times humans would have a basic understanding of the Highstorm cycle, and maybe even do some calculations and predictions. They would base their movement on that to travel from village to village to have a shelter. They won't travel as a single army, but rather multiple smaller ones spread across the whole border, taking as many villages as possible. Dawnsingers living there would be unable to gather sufficient numbers to stop them. It's also very likely that in the months or years leading to the invasion, humans menaged to figure out the Highstorm pattern and are able to calculate when the next Highstorm will be. Human armies are moving from village to village, city to city and taking over more and more land, Danwsingers are still spread over the whole Roshar, and just began to amass their troops. Humans take parts of Azir and Iri in the first period of the invasion. Dawnsinger army arrives, the advancement stalls and the frontlines are established. Humans managed to gather lots of resources and weapons to successfully face Dawnsinger army and even have an advantage over them. Second period of the invasion starts, with little gains for humans, but still them being dominant on a battlefield. Dawnsingers unable to defeat humans and facing betrayal of spren or their unwillingness to help, turn towards Odium for help. He turns them into Fused and the First Singer Desolation starts. Dawnsingers led by Fused are pushing humanity back, retaking conquered lands. The Oathpact is made, Heralds are sealing Fused on Braize. Humans and Dawnsingers are left alone. They continue fighting among themself, until eventually making peace. Humanity controls parts of today's Azir and Iri, with native Dawnsinger as slaves or second class citizens living there. Tensions remained high, but both Desolations ended. Over next generations, centuries, war is restarted multiple times. By the time of next war humans adapted to the new harsh environment, are able to predict Highstorms and mine metals for weapon production. With every war humanity is gaining new lands, but I doubt by the time of the Second Desolation centuries later humanity would have control over all of Roshar. There is a question that nobody seems to ask - where Singers were living in between Desolations? If in the ancient times all of Roshar was conquered by humans, where did Singers live? Were they expelled into wastelands? No, that's not possible - Listeners went on exile into the wastelands of Narak before the Last Desolation, and between that event and the False Desolation they would be forced to live with all Singers if Singers were exiled from human controlled lands. Singers were living among humans. Not as slaves (that came fully after the Recreance), but as second class citizens, or separate enclaves of Singer communities. There was a contact between humans and Singers, as Radiants during the False Desolation recorded "they call themself Parsh now". If Singers were living among humans in between each Desolation, then during the First Desolation humans weren’t expelling Singers out of their land, but rather subjecting them and forcing them to work for them and teach humans. The full conquest of Roshar would last for centuries, and won’t happen in a single generation - there is just too much land and too many Singers to subjugate at once for it to be even possible. This was a long conflict, which likely was even incomplete before the Second Desolation, centuries later
  5. Generally yes. If a Misting was invested enough, he might block a Shardblade just with his soul - but that's not the case. He will get cut by a physical edge of a Shardblade. What I'm saying with "If a Misting is invested enough, he might block a Shardblade just with his soul" is that Breaths can stop a Shardblade, an Awakened piece of cloth with enough Breaths will block it. Potentially it might mean that Susebron is invested enough to fully block a Shardblade. Will this be the case? No idea, that's for Brandon to decide, but there are clues it can work like that. But for our very powerful Misting (at least Lerasium level or with Dor) it wouldn't be the case. He isn't that invested even when burning metal. He will "block" spiritual Shardblade, but be cut by its physical edge. Not ideal, but at least your soul is in one piece. We have only one example of aluminum being burned and it was like "Vin burned it and instantly all other metal reserves vanished" - I don't have an English version but in my it was said reserves other than aluminum vanished, nothing was said more about aluminum. We know aluminum and chromium work alike, and we know chromium burns for an extended period of time. I think aluminum burns like other metals, but because metal flakes are such low amount of investiture, aluminum burns them almost immediately, but with something like Stormlight in your body it will take more time to burn it, just like chromium works (chromium was also said to leech almost instantly in BoM/TLM but we know from WoB that it takes time if there is a lot to burn, metals in stomach are just too little for that time to be needed). However chromium does burn quickly, aluminum would likely burn quickly as well.
  6. What if they didn't get them together? What if Elscalling got boosted in such a way to pick up every living person and their animals off the planet, no matter where they are, and transport them all to Roshar, not as a one group, but individually together? Then if tens of millions (or whatever number in hundreds of thousands) of people got transported and allowed into a "small" land, that could create a problem. Lack of food, lack of land to farm, lack of resources, mining, shelters etc. It would take time for them to build it all. Why bother when you can just walk across mountain ranges and steal farm animals from other people living there? Steal their houses, food, infrastructure and take what is already there, instead of starting from nothing? You have a numerical advantage over the villagers on the other side, even with primitive weapons, you should be able to take that by force before they call for help. Then just use their weapons and resources to advance further into their land, attacking more and more Dawnsingers with numerical advantage. It's not like all Dawnsingers are waiting on the other side of the mountain, by the time they would organize in large numbers capable of effective defense, you would not only take lots of land, but arm yourself using their weapons against them. Barbarians didn't defeat Rome by having a more advanced technology or having more organized troops, but by attacking them with numerical advantage all across the border. Ambushing them in the forest and taking their weapons and armors from their bodies. Using their roads and traveling to the very heart of Rome with numbers that can’t be stopped. Settling in their houses, and crowning themself as new roman emperors.
  7. Fully healing? No way - Dalinar swearing 3rd Ideal didn't fully heal Taln nor Ash. That's too little.
  8. If that would be the case then you wouldn't be able to use it to fuel Allomancy, as it already is doing a different work. Large amounts of static investiture, like very large, as large as the Well of Ascension (it should be larger than normal perpendicularity), might just emit a strong enough pulse to be hearable. But only Vin, with double bronze, could hear it. And she did breath in Mist when she was little, which might have attuned her to that tone. Or that was because Preservation and Ruin's tone were just written into the Scadrial, but because both of their minds were focused in the Well, the pulses were coming from that, except from a few cases where they were creating Mistspirits.
  9. Tbf there aren't many planets known to us on which talking spaceships, not understandable for the local population, could land in the far future.
  10. That's a good point. With very powerful Allomancy you might be able to block a Shardblade cut through your soul, as it wouldn't be able to turn into that "kinetic mist" (if that's kinetic), preventing you from taking any damage to the soul. But physical cutting damage might still cut you conventionally.
  11. I'm not upset, I'm just stubborn I don't think it contradicts anything at all. It's a private letter to a friend, something less official, something that should stay between the two of them or other close friends - and in that Sazed told him Spook will have fun with those metals. For me it's a little wink to Spook suggesting he might find a good use of those metals - and he likely had found, after all he lived for more than 118 years, likely because of the cadmium bubble. Also Sazed said it because of storytelling. Brandon told it to us so we know there are more metals to be explored in next books. Just to show that Sazed words in that letter aren't necessarily that reliable. Allomancy is different from Feruchemy, in Allomancy the power is coming from outside, in Feruchemy it is coming from your own body. In Allomancy Vin doesn't need to know what aluminum does, she feels the reserve when she searches for it and burns that - the power was drawn in from SR and filtered through the metal giving it a shape. In Feruchemy you need to FIND that reserve in your own body, which isn't shaped by a metalmind. You need to know what to put it there to do that. And that attribute isn't a metal, nor investiture - it's a part of your body. It's the other way around. When you tap a metalmind, you might be able to tap it not knowing what is inside - I give you that, there is a possibility of this happening, as long as you know it's a metalmind (but BoM is showing the opposite). That's because a Feruchemist feels investiture is inside that metalmind, and can draw that in. But when storing there isn't anything noticeable in your body that tells you that you can store it in a metalmind. Nothing is felt by them. No warmth, no fire, no reserve of investiture. Nothing. There isn't anything indicating that you can store something in a metalmind, and that's where the Intent plays a huge role - you're telling your own body which attribute to push into a metalmind. And for that you need to know this. Just telling your body to store something won't work because what is that something? Your key analogy is a good one, but for me. NOBODY needs to tell you which key will unlock the door - you know what shape everykey has, and you can just keep trying until you find the right one. You know that the attribute must come from your body, just keep guessing what can be an attribute and you'll eventually guess correctly. Nobody needs to tell you which attribute to store. You need to guess, that will provide the right intent, and if you guessed correctly, you will be able to store that. I don't know where this: "until you're told which key is the right one, even the right one won't unlock the lock" came from. I've never said anything like that. It's either guessing, which isn't perfect and requires some imagination, or ask a landlord (a Shard) to tell you which key is the right one. Multiple options. Your idea on the other hand is like throwing a bunch of keys at the doors and hoping one of them will perfectly land in a keyhole, and that will be also the correct key. Subconscious intent was argued by me with Koloss. Your body's intent to survive is enough to burn metals like pewter. Can your body do the same with a goldmind? Tap subconsciously a gold mind in a life or death situation not knowing it's a gold mind? Possibly, as your body will be reaching out in search of investiture and it will find it in that goldmind. But storing something won't work, as there is nothing indicating in you body that there is something that you can store - no reserve, no warmth, no investiture in your body is felt - as that isn't investiture yet. Yes but he realized that after noticing it's both nicrosil and copper. He didn't felt an investiture after just noticing nicrosil, but after noticing there is copper too. That was the order in which this happened. What does this have to do with anything we're talking about? It's unlikely that just a random passerby will influence accidental spiking in such a way to create a Hemalurgic spike - he didn't do the spiking and he isn't Ruin who has far more power than a random dude. And stealing A-pewter from a coinshot won't work - he doesn't have A-pewter. Which begs the question what would happen? Would you still tear off a part of a soul but with nothing useful there? Or nothing will happen and no spike would be created? We know a wrong binding spot might result in stealing a wrong power (even with correct intent), so will wrong intent steal something wrongly too? I think I should steal something. I really can't see that working. For me it's illogical as there is nothing telling you what to store. Without this you don't know what to push into a metalmind. Again, where did this come from? I've never said you always need to be told what to store. I said that you can guess, or be told by someone like a Shard/Sliver. But you can do it without them, just keep guessing and you will eventually find a new attribute. Oh yes, I fully remember that. Size is another limiting factor - that's why I said in some cases using a Fullmind is wasteful. But we don't know how much you can fit into a metalmind, taking the Bands as an example, you can store a looooot there, and those are a very small sized metalmind compared to the amount of attributes stored inside. We've done some math on that on the forum somewhere. Yes, that's reasonable. But as I said, only Sazed knows that for sure. Kelsier's Ascention might have been a part of Preservation's original plan. So it should be counted. It also showed us that you can force a Shard onto yourself, which opens a lot of possibilities. Alloys aren't pure. Iron is pure, carbon is pure, together they form steel, which is a combination of those two, not pure. Even if that alloy is made out of 2 god metals, they don't make it pure. That's what Brandon said "it will act like an alloy of Honor's god metal". And we know Atium isn't burnable by everybody. Only specific Mistings can burn Atium alloys. There is a difference, god metal is the fuel, and it's all keyed to a specific identity. I see that can prevent you from burning it at all, as there is no part of that god metal which doesn't have identity. Metalminds store Investiture keyed to an identity, god metals are investiture. You burn the investiture, it is released. God metals are different, they're the fuel in the purest form: No idea. Whatever Lift does? Or Nightwatcher? We don't know yet. Yeah, I didn't make it clear enough - you can burn an invested metalmind just like a normal metal. That's what Vin did in TFE with Sazed metalmind. And that's likely what Inquisitors were doing when trying to figure out compounding. I was more or less thinking about "this spike killed somebody, someone innocent, I don't want to use it, it has blood on it" - that's how Wax reacted to his own Pathian spike when talking to Harmony in SoS. It having a hemalurgic charge might change something too - spikes are different from metalminds. A bit. Hmm. SA: SA:
  12. They affect not only metal but investiture itself, returning it to SR, they can leech other forms of investiture. However in BoM Broadsheet it was said something different, that chromium doesn't get rid of metals but only investiture of metal reserves. Both Marasi and Wax felt their metal reserves disappearing when affected by chromium Primar Cubes. However it is worth noting that Brandon still isn't sure how it should work, 2020 WoB: Can chromium or aluminum kill a spren? Based on one of the WoB in my previous post (this: "the Investiture in a Shardblade is much greater than your average Allomancer, but... This type of thing is not unheard of in the Cosmere. The larkin, the Leechers, and Nightblood all have a similar sort of thing going on. Destroying a Shardblade would be really hard.") and these WoBs below, a powerful leeching would be like Nightblood - he is capable of killing a spren (not sure if in a Shardblade form, likely he would chip it off). I'm fairly certain a Leecher would need to be either fueled by Mist or the Well itself to be able to access such power. It would be comparable with steelpushing a Shardblade, which requires a lot of power. Theoretically a Leecher could kill a spren, practically not right now. I see it impossible for chromium/aluminum to dismiss a Shardplate, it has too much investiture to affect it significantly like that.
  13. That's an interesting question. But I think the answer is no, burning aluminum won't burn off a Shardblade. That's because burning aluminum won't destroy a hemalurgic spike and its charge: And it is answered, Leecher can't destroy a Shardblade, aluminum gnat won't be able as well: It might grant you some protection against Shardblade cutting through your soul or maybe even prevent it from happening - I doubt it however. But I think something will be happening. Leeching also burns of metals of your target. They're similar. And leeching makes a Shardbearer unable to summon his Shardblade: I think burning aluminum will work the same - when the blade is passing through your body a Shardbearer won't be able to dismiss it, or change it shape - it will lock it in the state it was when entering your body. It won't destroy a spren, but if a Radiant's spren gets killed, he will lose his power and the ability to use Stormlight too. It is, you're welcome
  14. Yes, they separate the dayside from the nightside, but I think there are some harsh storms in between and it's hard to traverse them. That's a very interesting observation, and that begs the question - can a coppercloud/Aviar hide you from Shades? Shades not only exist in CR but also in PR and simply using their sight might be enough to locate you. But that's a very interesting possibility. I think Linji sounds fitting for SotD - there are more names that Sixth of the Dusk on the First of the Sun - like Vathi, Patji, Sori, Yaalani or Kokerlii among others. Those are ending with the letter i and Linji fits this pattern, but there are also other names like Sak, Mirris, Sisisru, Eusto or Winds, which don't end with the letter i, but are still short. Now after looking at the names it makes me even more sure that the story is told on the First of the Sun.
  15. That's a good WoB. With the body's intent to survive? Yes, it would work. Elend was conscious at that moment, he said "Vin" right before Vin gave him the band, and even "nod his head" when she told him to swallow. But the effects of pewter didn't show up on his face until Elend closed his eyes - that's likely when he started to subconsciously burn Lerasium and pewter as his body intent to survive took over and he burned those metals after he finally lost his consciousness (I don't have WoA in English to quote but that's precisely how it happened). Or Elend burned Lerasium while still being conscious, because he know there was a piece of metal there, he saw the Mistspirit showing it to Vin, Vin trying to swallow it, and he saw the spirit pointing toward Elend - and he just logically concluded he need to burn it, but didn't realized it made him into a Mistborn. But I think Elend burning it subconsciously is a more likely option. And Wax consciously drew from the Bands, after Marasi gave them to him - his mind was very active and in control, because Harmony kept his mind conscious the whole time. He already knew what the spearhead was (he heard Marasi talking and he figured it out right before his death) and knew he could heal by using them. Before that none of the people touching the Bands were in a dire need of survival for that intent to show up. BoM ch 28: Even Marasi said "you have to know what it does" Edit: sorry, we've hijacked your F-tin thread
  16. Szeth isn't a CS: But the thing that happened to Szeth is very similar to what has happened to other CS - his soul got stampled back to the body after his death, which brought him back to life. I don't think Nale had enough investiture to create CS with that fabrial - we know it requires massive amounts of investiture and a simple fabiral wouldn't work. Whole quote from RoW ch 15: Either Vasher is saying that Szeth died too, or Szeth soul was drenched in power too. Your interpretation of this is valid based on that quote. But we have WoB claiming Szeth isn't a CS. Interesting. I remember in OB in the ch 88 Jez said to Dalinar when talking about Unmades that they "ripped my brain out and made it dance! I watched.", which might suggest that Unmades were made out of Herald's broken mind (at least partially - there was a theory about it based on that quote), or Unmades presence is worsening Heralds madness. I'm pretty sure Moelach's real purpose wasn't revealed yet. Just granting future visions in the moment of death is too little for an Unmade (that's a lot but that isn't helping Odium that much). He must be able to do something more than that, something actually aiding Odium’s war effort. Him being able to get into Herald's mind might be his real purpose.
  17. Yes, he had one Dawnshard. All the evidence points to it. Is it even possible to hold all 4 Dawnshards at the same time? You became a Dawnshard, can you be all 4 different things at once?
  18. I'm almost sure it's First of the Sun. They don't know what laptops are (he calls them magical tablets for the sake of his audience), that means they aren't technologically developed, have talking spaceships landing there, with which aren't familiar, Hoid also mentioned something about sailing around the world with no Aviar, aren't familiar with Aons. This must be happening shortly before or around the time of SotD. Planets like Roshar, Scadrial, Nalthis or Taldain (has oceans) would be familiar with concepts like laptops, AI, objects talking and so on. I don't think Threnody is a possibility - there is Evil on one continent, the other is full of Shades and sailing there or landing with spaceships is just too dangerous.
  19. Temporary healing would certainly be possible for a Shard. But If Shards were able to heal CS's mind, then why not make them in such a way for their mind not to be affected by CS status? That is a far simpler solution and if healing would be that easy for a Shard, then making them immune to madness in the first place should be possible too. Did we see a person's broken mind being healed by a Shard? Not body or soul, but mind. The only thing that fits is Elantrians, Riino and Raoden getting back from Reod, but they aren't CS and they are better suited for living very long than others.
  20. I vaguely remember that, I wasn't often reading forum back then, but I remember being torn between the two when reading WoR - on the one hand she made Kalladin happy and I wanted him to be happy, bur on the other hand Adolin was great and he loved Shallan, they fitted together very well. I'm glad how it ended. I fully agree. I know Brandon will make it work well if he decided to redeem Moash, but current Moash is just not fitted for redemption at all. He needs to change first and that takes time. There is little time left in SA5 for Moash to even start his change, not to mention complete redemption. I see some ways for this redemption to work, most ending with Moash death or even suicide/self-sacrifice. But personally I'm not sure if I even want Moash to get redemption. As he is right now - no, if he starts to change then maybe, but there is little time left for that before the end of SA5. Moash redemption happening in the second half is a far better idea than in SA5. Much more time, much more things will happen that will drive Moash to change and it will certainly work much better and wouldn't feel "rushed".
  21. There are no words in WoB that supports this. Brandon said "metalmind" you interpreting it as something different. You can also store Surgebinding and all invested arts in nicrosilmind, which is "anything" that Brandon was talking about. Even listening to that WoB Brandon didn't even stutter. If you suggest that a metalmind isn't a metalmind when Brandon is talking about it, then we can as well throw all WoBs into the trash, as none of them matter anymore, when you can interpret everything as you want. Primar Cubes are similar to metalminds, but aren't one. Their similarities don't make them metalminds. WoB is clearly talking about a metalmind. Period. Why not? Those metals are unavailable before proper metallurgic techniques are developed and the best technological advancement Spook had at that moment was a green grass. Just because he would know what those metals are, knows what those metals are doing in general, doesn't mean he wouldn't need to "poke around" and play with them to figure out what he can do with them, what is the use of those metals etc. Or maybe he wanted to encourage Spook to read all 80 tomes of books? I don't see this disproving my idea. And technically there were 4 metals unknown to anybody, as Nicrosil and Chromium were also unknown to be Allomantic metals. Sazed message to Spook also said "I tried to bring them back, but apparently fixing the bodies doesn't return the souls" giving the idea that he didn't know how to do that, but in SH it was revealed that they decided to go into the Beyond on their on and rejected Sazed proposal of going back. With which I don't agree. Intent is always needed. Just like in Allomancy they need to search for metal reserves to burn them, in Feruchemy they need to search for proper attributes to store them. It just doesn't make sense to store "something" that you don't even know exists or what it is. Yes it would. Wax recognised copper which made him realize what it can do, Marasi saw 16 metals in a spearhead which made her realize what she can do with it. BoM epilogue: Marasi was said to tap "everything" from Bands, and yet she didn't do that, because intent. Yes, you need to guess first what you can store in a Fullmind to store it. That's the first limitation. If it was like you suggest, a person using a Fullmind would be able to store everything there, not knowing what it is, hundreds of different attributes, and tap it all when needed, during fight etc. That would be extremely overpowered and unbalanced, too much. That can't be the case because it's against the idea of magic based on limitations. It's not about possibilities. Your idea give Fullmind too much power, while my limits it use and applicability, in some cases it would be wasteful to use Fullmind, which is fine, but in other cases it would be very useful to have. A Fullmind working like I propose isn't overly powerful and unbalanced. Nobody except for Sazed knows this. And there are some quite heavy spoilers openly visible in your post there. Edit it please. This is Mistborn forum. And again, it's fine that there are little to none people/Vessels who would know what unknown to public metals can store. That's fine. That's another limitation. And yes, as Harmony proved, they don't necessarily are aware of what all those metals can do. Which is again fine. Cosmere spoilers And yet another WoB states it's very important that Atium and Malatium are on the opposite side of the table compared to gold and electrum. I would be very surprised if Malatium stored spiritual attributes out of nowhere, while everything else in that quadrant, including Atium, is physical. Not random. 2 physical, 1 spiritual and 1 mental quadrants. You know more or less what to search for. But yes, lots of guessing is needed, which is good. Yeah, but in our world you don't need to have Intent to turn on the machine, while in Cosmere you need Intent to use everything. Spikes, metalmind, medallions, Breaths, Honorblades - everything works based on intent and without it you just can't use it. I won't even comment on that. Or I will - Brandon knows there are a lot of metals, Brandon knows there is a metalmind that can store anything. Would that anything include all those metals only he knows about? Very likely. Can it be different? Yes. I can see it working more or less based on god metals used in that Fullmind. If it's made out of Lerasium/Atium, it can store all 16 based, Lerasium alloys, Atium alloys and Atium-Lerasium alloys. Add Trellium to that and it can store all those alloys with Trellium etc. SA: Pure god metal should be burnable by everyone, Honorblades should be, but Shardblades are alloys, they aren't pure and they would act like an alloy when burning it - that's why connection might be needed. My idea was to alloy a Shardblade with Lerasium to gain a permanent connection which would allow you to burn normal Shardblade whenever you want. Lerasium making people into Mistborn is a side effect, a Mistborn burning it would have a different effect. I think it's very possible that only Lerasium can be burned by non-Allomancers to produce a side-effect and all other god metals like Atium can be burned only by Allomancers (Brandon wants it to work like that in movies). SA: SA:
  22. He doesn't need to care for his troops to make sure Fused are at least mentally capable to lead Singer and don't stare into a wall all the time. Having a mentally stable Fused is far more beneficial than how they are right now. Yes, there is something there. It's not about perpendicularity but about Radiant swearing new ideal, as Ishar said in ch 111: I just doubt it would be that easy, just Ascend and heal them. Their madness is partially caused by people's perception about them and 10 Fools - this might not be as easily healable as we think. And as Eshonai has proven, a flashback character doesn't have to be alive to have flashbacks (but in the case of Ash and Taln I think they will be alive).
  23. Will it? If Shard could heal them that easily, Odium would heal his Fused a long time ago.
  24. Not a hot take? Did you see this thread for example? And that's only the most recent one
  25. Adding more, Nicrosil is more restrictive in medallions than what Feruchemist have. It was also noted by Wax that attributes in the Bands are running low and compounding is needed (not sure if that was just about the nicrosil portion or everything). That's why I think it's most likely that Feruchemical Nicrosil works just like other metals - you store Allomancy for 1h, and you can tap it for one 1h to be twice as strong in Allomancy. This is also supported by the fact that there is a way to fuel Allomancy with Feruchemy making Allomancy more powerful, a kind of "reverse compounding", which might be just F-nicrosil. If normal Feruchemical nicrosil would work just like coppermind, it wouldn't allow to gain Allomantic power from Feruchemy or compounding.
×
×
  • Create New...