Crucible of Shards

Keep in mind that unless you have a primer cube, we have only seen leeching happen when there is physical contact with the person using the invested art. We don’t know all the limitations of leeching yet. Reacting to neutralize investiture as it affects you is more the sphere of allomantic aluminum. What you are proposing is not flat out impossible, but it’s very questionable.

Fun idea, but it doesn’t account for Odium’s activities prior to being trapped on Roshar. He was going around having (we are led to believe) direct confrontations with other shards.

Good point, but I was thinking more along the lines of human agents of Odium actively influencing Vorin doctrine.

Interesting idea. Not sure if I agree or not, but it does make me wonder just how much Odium us behind how Vorinism glorifies war.

Wax: You really put aside everything and came all this way for me? How did you even get here so fast? Steris: Several traffic violations. Marasi: Three counts of resisting arrest. Wayne: Roughly thirteen cans of energy drinks. The Sovereign: Also, that’s not our car.

I’ve always been partial to A-electrum as a protective measure. Combine it with F-zinc or F-steel and you have someone who is very hard to catch by surprise. If you’re a cat thief, then being a Slider with F-steel would make you able get in and out in literally the blink of an eye. No one would see it coming

I didn’t think he was going to die, mainly because him and Maya had been too built up to let him die by that point.

My guess is that the “not yet” is probably about Yelig-Nar since he needs a host body. I was trying to find this one WoB about how if a person bonded an Unmade it would be analogous to a Bondsmith or something like that, but I couldn’t find it.

Questioner Someone asked you last year if the Unmade could be bonded and you said technically yes. Have we seen any evidence of this, or will we? Brandon Sanderson Uhh, you-- Eh-- Not yet, no. It doesn't really happen. Technically it could but it just doesn't really happen. Shadows of Self London UK signing (Oct. 19, 2015) I take this to mean he probably doesn’t intend for it to happen, but I may be wrong.

As someone who is related to the Donner party, I approve of this method of provision, but only when all other food sources have been exhausted and you have no reasonable hope of a speedy rescue.

In the WoR interludes, the Five agreed to hold a meeting at a specific point in a specific rhythm. Unless they all started attuning simultaneously and didn’t switch rhythms at any point (which is hard to believe, given what we see in singer perspectives), it doesn’t make sense to set the meeting time this way, unless the rhythms are always playing independent of singer observation. I believe we see Eshonai even checking time by tapping into a rhythm BECAUSE the rhythm is objectively tracked, not subjectively tracked. @Keefasks a good question. Singer rhythm dynamics have become much more than mere worldbuilding based on the last few series of WoBs.

I think it’s also relevant that Kelsier has not gone through the ordeal of dying over and over, unlike the Heralds and Fused. Correct me if I’m wrong, but don’t the books themselves call out their cycles of death and rebirth being part of their decaying mental state?

If a person acts in accordance with a particular Shard’s intent, that in no way means they actually hold any investiture associated with that Shard. In order to corrupt Odium, they would theoretically have to be invested with another Shard’s investiture, so if Mr. T did corrupt Odium, it would be with Cultivation’s investiture, if any.

I think he is similar to Cenn in WoK, I that he is a character that exists to provide an outside perspective on main characters. I doubt he’ll play an important role, but I wouldn’t be shocked if he popped up again. Edit: I WOULD be shocked if Cenn popped up again.

I believe the Sibling says outright that after they bound BAM they intentionally ended their bond with Melishi. No oaths were broken. They lost their light as an unintentional consequence of BAM’s capture. As the Radiants were already abandoning Urithiru, and subsequently breaking their oaths, there was no one either willing or able to check up on the Sibling, so it was assumed that the Sibling became a deadeye.

I think what makes Bondsmiths unique is not the pairing of specific surges, but their ability to manipulate Connection. A theory of mine is that most Rosharans would call anyone who can manipulate Connection on this level a Bondsmith, similar to how some Rosharans would call all magic surgebinding.

Ah, ya got me, @Jofwu

It can’t be Teatament because the inkspren shopkeeper in RoW was taking care of Testament. They wouldn’t be able to go seek Shallan out in the cognitive realm. Cool thought though, @wordspren

The Regals have to directly petition Odium for voidlight via the specific song/rhythm. I’m going to assume that Odium is able to exercise some volition over whether the Regals receive voidlight or not. If he sees the dispensation of his investiture as being at cross purposes with him, I would be surprised if he would give voidlight in the scenario the OP described.

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I see what you’re saying, but Dalinar himself is admittedly ignorant of how to even use his powers, and I doubt you can utilize a Dawnshard without intent. We still have a lot to see when it comes to Ishar and Bondsmiths in general. Solid point. I don’t have any hard evidence, and there are posts that go more in-depth than I can about the light that Dalinar experiences that the Stormfather is seemingly unaware of. Some people think that may be related, some don’t. So you got me there. I’m really just spitballing an idea I had while getting off work. I’ll keep thinking about it.

So we know from Rysn’s novella that the bearer of a Dawnshard... is the Dawnshard. “That’s how it works.” Now, in Oathbringer, right before Dalinar does his massive power tap, he of course says, “I am Unity.” And what does Odium say? “We killed you!” Seeing as how he is addressing Dalinar, and seeing as how Dalinar has 0 years of experience in being dead, the question then becomes, “ How could Odium have killed Dalinar if he has never killed Dalinar?” The answer, is of course, that Odium is addressing the Unity Dawnshard, who happens to at this time be Dalinar. Because “that’s how it works.” Odium killed the previous bearer of the Unity Dawnshard and is quite put out to find that a replacement was found. Change my mind.

I was thinking Steris gets a highspren, Marasi gets an inkspren, Wax gets an ashspren, and Wayne gets a cultivationspren.

So we all know that the heralds have a unique madness that is most likely linked to their divine attributes and how people perceive them. I’ve seen several threads theorizing that the capturing of Ba-Ado-Mishram is what caused their madness, but if you remember what Ishar said in his brief moment of clarity to Dalinar, he says that their madness retreats when they are around Radiants that swear ideals or when they are near the Spiritual Realm. Now I’m not trying to pinpoint when their madness started, although Kalak’s epigraphs hint that it could be a result of their enormously long life. What I am trying to say is that if their madness retreats when around Radiants getting upgrades, and if the only Radiants left after the Recreance are the Skybreakers playing Radiant whack-a-mole, I wonder how many opportunities the Heralds would actually have after the Recreance to experience an Oathed-up moment of clarity. I think it is most likely true that they were quite mad before the Recreance and that they already knew what sort of experienced brought clarity. So ya, there you go.

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