StrikerEZ
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Alternatively: by killing him with the exe, we force whatever team attacked him to have to try and figure out who to kill. And in that scenario, even if Archer is village, the not-Archer's-team-elims (I know I just said he might be village, but roll with me here ) could hit one of the other elims for us. Plus, you're assuming that he's an elim already and we can just go ahead and wait for him to die. He could be an elim, and then we don't exe him and he survives and they kill a different player and we're right back where we started. I'd rather get info on Archer now, because he's been involved in the thread and it can tell us something about other players in the game, especially if he flips mistborn. Plus it forces one of the elim teams to scramble and figure out who they want to kill. Okay, I can concede to this point and say that it's been too long since I took a stats class. However, if one of us does flip elim, that does have to change the probability that the other player is an elim. Because they can't be on the same team as the player that died. I don't see how this specific scenario (one of us flipping elim) holds up exactly to what you're trying to say. Don't encourage them. And like Quinn said, who are you even looking at for the exe? I really think I'm just gonna leave my vote on Archer this turn. I think getting info about him if he flips, plus forcing the elims to find someone else to kill, is far more beneficial to us than going for other people. I guess I'd understand if you used this logic to go for me instead, but I'd bring up the fact that Archer has been involved in a lot of stuff so far, and will probably give more info than my flip will.
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Okay, I'm going to spoil this next bit because it ended up being longer than I thought. The tl;dr: the odds of us being an elim have changed from the initial standpoint at the start of the game. In other news, some comments about the actual game: I know that it's not going to make you biased, considering you were involved in getting me exed last game. I mean, I have no idea. It just keeps happening. I think it's just because I tend to be a more vocal player, don't think through everything I say super thoroughly before I post it, and often have some bad logic in my posts. As for what we should talk about now, Quinn, I think that Archer is an elim. Like...I know I did that whole thing up with the probability stuff (which could be completely wrong ), but my read isn't based solely on probability or anything. I still think everything he did last cycle just was a bit odd, a bit too forced. And sure, he's come up with an explanation now that he's under fire, but I don't know if I buy it. And I don't like how Quinn backed off as soon as he gained a few more votes.
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And what happens if you flip elim? Or if you do flip v!Thug, are you just suggesting I get exed for my role? Do we need to bring up AG2 (or was it AG3?) where the village exed/killed their way through all of the Smokers and not a single one was an elim? I wouldn't be too surprised at all if the elim teams were beefed up enough to account for the fact that the village has at least two Thugs.
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I mean, I'd prefer it to be when the game is over, as I die early a lot, but with my extra life gone now, that's not looking like it's going to happen.
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Gotta love the fact that most of the second page is just me, Bip, and Mat going in circles about my claim as a Thug.
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You're not stupid. Am I perhaps stupid for claiming Thug in thread? Mayhaps. Though I guess that just makes me and Archer both stupid.
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You missed me claiming Thug just a little bit ago
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I just wanna know why that phrase gives you such a bad gut read. Almost said bad vibes instead of bad gut read As for the rest of the post: I can't say much more than what I've already said, except to say that I was really excited to have an extra life that could protect me from inevitably getting exed at some point, but alas, twas not meant to be.
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I mean, I was basically claiming Thug. I was waiting to see what you did, so I could make a judgement based on what you said. I'm not sure what I think of us both being Thugs. But I also don't want to make any inferences about the distribution...but you were also really giving me bad vibes last cycle, with the stuff with you almost wanting to control what we all talked about. So, with that, and this Thug claim, I think I feel comfortable voting Archer.
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Man I disappeared for a few hours and didn’t miss all that much. I’m both somehow disappointed but also glad. Anyway, still waiting on Archer to say something. I’m not even gonna comment on the Quinn/Illwei stuff because I feel like this happens every game and nothing ever really comes of it. Anyway, like others have said, Archer and I can’t both be on the same team. So the options are 1) I’m village and he’s one of the two elim teams, 2) I’m on one of the two elim teams and he’s village, 3) I’m one one of the two teams and he’s on the other one, or 4) we’re both village. I was definitely getting odd vibes from him last cycle, so I think we’ve probably got 1) going on right now, but I guess 4) is still an option.
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Speaking for myself here, Quinn, but I'm going to wait to hear from @Archer before I make any decisions for my vote this cycle. Like bip said, he could very easily be Vin, and I want to see what he does once he knows what's happened.
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So...rip my extra life smh
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Well, to be fair, ties this game kill one of the tied players rather than no one dying, I'm pretty sure. So ties aren't too bad, they just leave things to be manipulated by vote manipulation. Which, for this game, can really only be soothers right now, I think.
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Illwei (1): STINK Archer (2): Matrim, Tani Pizza (1): Pizza STINK (4): Illwei, Liranil, Striker, Biplet Striker (1): Archer So, we've only had half of the players vote so far, which feels low for D1 with only about 3 hours left in the cycle. @Flyingbooks @Random Bystander @Ashbringer @The Unknown Order @Whysper @Experience @Shard of Reading @Gears @Quintessential Any of y'all gonna vote or give thoughts on who we should exe? I know some of you have posted already a bit, but you haven't added a vote yet.
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What’s gonna be on the bingo card? I figure Illwei v Quinn in the thread will be the free space in the middle?
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Well, I sure missed a lot. First off, as this is the last thing I read and therefore freshest in my mind: @Archer I saw your first comment about the Illwei thing earlier today but had to go to rehearsal before I could respond. I tagged her in that post because I was too lazy to go back and quote her. Also, Stink. From what I've been reading, this makes the most sense. Everything with that Stink/Archer/Quinn interaction makes me think that there might be a mistborn in there somewhere, and I think Stink's the most likely of them. Anyone got a vote count?
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@Fifth Scholar I know I ran LG56, but what happened in that game that had you keep bringing it up in the elim doc? I'm about 20 pages in, and you've mentioned that game a lot now, and I don't remember what you did in that game, even though I ran it.
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......god I need to pay more attention to what I'm typing. I meant that the odds are too high that she might be the outed mistborn, if one is outed, in my opinion. Like, I know 1/3 isn't that high, but it's still too high for my tastes. And yeah, another mistborn being dead before this happens does change things. Once Vin dies, we just exe any outed mistborn. Yeah, that's fair.
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I think for now, I'll just pinch hit, but I'll decide for sure before signups close. Depends on how the next week goes, both with seeing how much extra time I have and whether or not I'm still alive in the MR by this time next week.
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Okay, seriously though, thanks for this. As much fun as it is to joke about the meta with me and my tendency to be read as elim, it does get tiring after awhile. I've died every game since I've returned this last time, besides for the AG, though that doesn't count as no one knew it was me. I mean, personally, I'd rather our seeker, if we have one, avoid outing the mistborn to begin with. They can keep this knowledge handy, for if the player in question starts seeming fishy, but I'd prefer if we avoid the conundrum of possibly killing Vin, or giving the elims the chance to kill Vin altogether. That's not what you're really asking about. I think you're asking about what we should do if the seeker does out a mistborn. In that scenario, I say we avoid exing the player. Unless a mistborn has already died, there's too low of a chance, for my tastes, that the outed mistborn is Vin. I don't know what to do long term for an outed mistborn, as the outing is a death sentence. Either the elims go after the mistborn (because it's either Vin or the other elim team's mistborn, which helps them), or they survive and become a discussion black hole that eventually gets them exed, whether or not they're an elim.
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Okay, you see, that sounds great. The absolute chaos of that doc, with us planning all sorts of wacky gambits while Kas is just going "oh god why?" sounds so incredibly fun.
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Well, I just want to say that this game was a blast, even though I was dead very soon. Though who's actually surprised about that? A lot of people have already given their thoughts about things, and I gave a lot of my thoughts about things in the spec docs as the game was going on. I just want to say that it would've been a blast to be on the elim team with any of y'all, and I would've so been on board for all of the gambits. The world will tremble the day when @Fifth Scholar, @Mailliw73, and I all end up on a team together.
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Hmm...well, okay, I should make it so it’s at least one elim has to be.
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....how do I always have some sort of very obvious contradiction in my first posts??? it's the power of our love for each other, obviously. (for those not aware, me and Bip are dating)
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Variel watched the day's events closely. It seemed that Straff and Cett had decided to come for Luthadel. Well, he couldn't have that happening in his city, now could he? ~ Hello! I'm alive. Today was rough, and I've only just now had time to go through and read the thread. Some thoughts I had, in no particular order: Not a fan of telling players how to play the game, whether that's telling them not to lie or to avoid talking about certain subjects that might help the elims. Not only is it perfectly valid to lie as a villager, it can sometimes even be beneficial as well, if the LG is anything to show us. Plus, the elims are already thinking about every way they might figure out who their teammates are. It's not like anything that's put in the thread will be new to them. Sure, if someone does a lot of talking about how the elims might coordinate, you can start side eying them, but I'm not a fan of preemptively telling players to avoid discussing something they might want to. To Vin: avoid claiming like the plague. The mistborns in this game are probably more powerful in general this game overall, because (besides Zane for most of the time) they can choose the metals they want to use. Having that choice is a great plus for the village, even if you can't kill anyone. To village scanners: please don't out Vin. The elims will all go after her if she's been outed, and they can be fairly certain she'll die as both teams will probably go for her, double hitting her. @Illwei That vote's pretty fair, I'll give you that. I feel like I'm forgetting something, but don't know what. It probably wasn't important. Anyway, testing something to help bip out:
