StrikerEZ
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@Araris Valerian @Condensation @Ashbringer I assume there's still no chance of any of you voting for books?
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Sighhhh. Quinn, I'm tired of moving my vote around so much. Books (Connie) @Ashbringer @Condensation @forget me not any chance you'll vote on Books?
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Striker (4): Araris, Forge, Ash, Books Connie (3): TJ, Striker, Quinn I also agree that Books is a better alternative personally, but if TJ isn't willing to vote with us, I'd rather vote on someone that might let me survive. I really don't think that's the case, Araris. Plus, like Quinn said, the goal is to get an exe on Books. TJ will probably stay on Connie (since he has apparently gone to sleep and he should stay asleep). If we switch to Books, with even just one of Ash or Forge, then it's 3-3 with me and Books. And of course I got ninja'd three times while writing this.
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Connie (Books) @Quintessential Are you willing to change your vote to Connie? I understand that you'd probably prefer to vote Books (as would I), but if you really do think I'm village, I think Connie is our best bet. And I know it's not the best option, but hey, I'll take what I can get.
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Anyone else you'd be willing to vote for that isn't me, Quinn, or Books then? I'm leaning village on you right now, I think. And Ash. So, I guess I'd be fine with voting on anyone else. But...man, an Araris/Forge/Connie team just doesn't seem quite right to me, unless there's been something really funky happening this game. I still think it's possible that Books is an elim, but I'd be willing to vote on Araris or Connie. I don't think Forge is an elim.
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Well, with rollover being at that time, I definitely won't be on around rollover (a couple hours before or after), except for the start of the game and over the weekend.
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Striker (4): Araris, Forge, Ash, Books Books (2): Quinn, Striker Quinn (1): TJ So, with 2.5 hours left in the Day, we're only missing one vote (@Condensation) and I might die today. So, in order to not die, I'd like propose that we vote on 1 of two people. Either Books or TJ. Connie, @TJ Shade @Ashbringer @forget me not Are any of you willing to move onto Books with me? I feel more strongly about Books being an elim than TJ, and would prefer the vote going on to Books. In addition, Quinn's latest post feels definitely like a village thing to do, to me. I am way too easy of a target to all of a sudden decide that I'm village, when an exe on me can easily distract from an exe on an elim. And I think it's telling that Books has been mostly inactive and is now hopping onto me as soon as there's a slight chance they could get exed again, as in C3.
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@Ashbringer what time on Thursday will the game start? Anyway, I'm signing up as Variel. I might change my mind, but I should be able to handle this.
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I was on for the end of that cycle, and did feel that the last minute shift onto Whysper was surprising and concerning, though obviously my misgivings about the shift were wrong. As for who I'm willing to vote for, I'm willing to vote for any of Books, TJ, Araris, or Quinn (in order of my preference). I really doubt that Ash is an elim, I feel like Connie would be a bit more active if she'd got to pinch hit for an elim, and Forge doesn't feel like an elim to me.
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I’d be down to vote for TJ
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Of these options for possible teams I think 3 is the most likely, followed by 4, then 1, and obviously I believe 2 to be wrong. I mean, I can say that, on my end at least, I backed off mostly because I felt like Whysper was getting really riled up. I didn't want to make a whole big conflict between the two of us, so I gave her some credit for the points she was making and backed off. I still feel like Whysper went very very hard on me, and was very clearly trying to paint me as an elim, and only backed off when she saw that I wasn't going to fight her on it. I guess you can tinfoil that all you want, but I'd ask that others go back and reread that whole argument for themselves and come back and tell me they really think it was contrived and that I'm an elim because of it. Anyway, I can't find the post where you talked about me and Quinn voting together so I'll comment on that here. I'm voting alongside Quinn because I have my own suspicions of Books, and I've been willing to set aside my suspicion of Quinn for a long time now. I still have some underlying suspicion there, but I feel like that's more from our big thunderdome C4 than anything else, honestly. And I'm really starting to get the sinking feeling that all 3 of us (me, Quinn, Araris) are just villagers who've been going at each other's throats for far too long.
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Oh she voted for Books? I thought you said she voted for Tani in the post I quoted. I was working off of that assumption with that argument. I definitely read your post wrong. Anyway, with this in mind, my point honestly works better: why wouldn't she vote on Books for distancing? I mean, I think they make sense as elim things for Books, even if I said I was village reading them in C4. Which was mostly because I was reading all their posts with the thought of "oh, but they voted out Whysper," which at this point isn't something we can give guarantee village cred for, unless we want to say that only one of the non-Whysper voters on D3 was village. Which I just don't think is super likely.
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I mean, distancing doesn't have to involve actually voting on a player. And, when she was constantly voicing suspicion of Tani and Books, is it not telling that, of the two, she only ever voted on Tani? She obviously had a preference for which of the two of them died.
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Okay, I think we're missing each other's points. I've been assuming that at least one elim probably voted on Whysper C3. And that at least one voted on Whysper C2 as well, because the village cred from doing that would help if either of them ended up dying. Now, obviously the assumption about C2 is a lot shakier than the already pretty shaky assumption about C3. But I think these assumptions, plus the odd things about Books I saw when I reread the thread on D4 (see that post with the spoiler with all my thoughts in regards to past Books stuff), plus the fact that Books is still alive at this point at all, considering the types of kills the elim team has been making so far, makes Books not look very good.
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My counter argument would be that, assuming an elim voted on Whysper at some point in the game (meaning final votes), Books fits that criteria twice throughout the game. And if “voted on Whysper” is the only criteria we’re going off of, then Books makes the most sense.
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I am definitely confusing C2 and C3, for sure. I just don't think that it's impossible for e!Books to have voted on Whysper C2 in order to distance from a teammate when the exe was already guaranteed to hit Dannex anyway, and voting out a villager could make Books look bad. And I personally, at this point, highly doubt that everyone who voted out Whysper C3 was a villager. That...is way too safe an assumption to make, and leaves me with literally just a TJ, Connie, Quinn team...which doesn't really make perfect sense. I'm willing to leave my vote on Books or move it to Araris if enough people are willing to move it to Araris with me.
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Because if we assume that an elim voted Whysper C3 for the village cred, when it wouldn't actually put Whysper in all that much danger, the only player still alive who actually voted on Whysper C3 is Books. Maybe it's a bad assumption, but well, I've got nothing else at this point. All my reads have been off this game, and I'm going to stop going off of my gut and instead base things off of logical assumptions, even if they might be wrong.
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Books. I've convinced myself on them being the most likely to be an elim of those who voted on Whysper. They're the one living player left who voted on Whysper the turn she didn't die, and I definitely think at least one elim went for that bus, and Books seems to me like the type who would go for that. Striker (2): Araris, Forge Books (2): Quinn, Striker @Ashbringer @TJ Shade @Flyingbooks @Condensation We've got a little over half the cycle left and we haven't hit a second page yet. Want to get your thoughts out there? Who do you think should die? Who do you think is probably village? There's 5 villagers left out of the eight of us. Who do you think is mostly likely to be elim or village?
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Okay yeah that’s fair. I was more just curious what your response would be more than anything else. TJ.
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Okay, so...TJ. I think this makes sense. Even after his game finished, he’s been laying low. And now, he’s asking Quinn who she roleblocked (presumably an elim teammate of his) so he can come out and say “well, that player can’t have submitted the elim kill,” but that player could very much still be an elim. We’ve been definitely looking in all the wrong spots, and I think going for TJ is our best shot. Or maybe Books, but I don’t know if the tinfoil is solid enough on them to go for that.
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So first, off, having stepped away from the game for a bit, would like to say that I probably got too heated with Quinn the other day, and I'm sorry for that. Now, onto figuring this game out. We have 8 players left. One of them is Elhokar. There are 5 villagers and 3 elims (unless Mat did something funky), and I know I am a villager. That leaves me with having to decide which of you 7 are the elims. If we assume that everyone who voted to kill Whysper was a villager, then we just solved the game, as the only players that leaves are Quinn, Connie, and TJ (excluding myself). I don't know if we can assume anything like this right now, not when things are this close. And, things aren't at ExLo as long as we don't hit Elhokar. I really don't know where to even look for our elims at this point. They've done a really good job of managing to stay alive so far, as far as I'm concerned.
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Because she was seen as suspicious all game. And I didn't like some of the connections I saw with Whysper as I was reading back through the thread. And her early votes felt off to me. And I thought her alignment could give us some info on other players. And like...you can't shade me for voting on her when you voted on her yourself at one point. You changed your vote later because you voted on me. Of course I'm not going to vote on myself and therefore leave it on Elandera. Anyway, I have no idea where to go from here. I might respond every now and then, but I'm going to be busy working on a paper tonight and tomorrow is one of my busy days in terms of classes. I'm just gonna wait until we see who dies tonight to try and make sense of what's happened so far.
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Hey wait a minute
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I definitely only backed down because she appealed to my emotions and I just didn't want to have to deal with that. It's been a rough week, and wasn't a great weekend either, and I couldn't deal with that last night. So I backed off and stepped away to cool off. Also, you know me. We've been on elim teams together. My M.O. as an elim is to avoid my teammate's deaths as much as possible, often risking myself in the process to save them. Sure, maybe this is all some grand plan between me and Quinn, but what purpose does this serve us? Like, what do we get out of it? If the busing goes so hard that one of us ends up dying, how does that help us? Sure, that gets the survivor village cred, but it just makes it so much harder for our theoretical team to win in that scenario.
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Okay shhh, it bothers me that it isn't spaced how I want it to be. I mean, same could be said for Whysper, and look how that turned out for us. Just because someone hasn't done a whole lot doesn't mean that they haven't been involved with things or that they haven't been touched on by other players. And learning things about one player's alignment, regardless of the flip, can tell us a lot about other players. You should be asking Quinn that, not me. I was the one that voted Elandera first. I'm suspicious of Quinn, but not enough to let that stop me from voting Elandera. I really want to know her alignment more than I want to know TJ's. Well, for one, village Elandera makes me look very bad and makes Araris look better. Not sure how it affects Quinn. And...not many others have directly interacted with her a whole bunch, so I don't know what info we'd get off of them. I guess for you, it could make you look a little sus, like you could be acting so certain that she would flip village to try and get village cred. I'm not saying I think that's the case, just that it's a possibility if she flips village.
