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He COULD have picked up Ruin though, and he's probably be able to pick up Ambition or Autonomy. Odium too actually... Honor would not be the best fit; but possibly better than Preservation. (Kell does have a code of some sort, albeit not necessarily one we'd agree with.) Cultivation could actually suit him very well; he's VERY good at that. I doubt he will Ascend again though; he already made the choice to NOT take up a Shard when he could. I also got the indication that Kell is on a hero's journey which will span all four eras. Having him take up a Shard feels like a waste. I think, provided Kell was changed, being a Sliver might have made him a stronger Mistborn. And imparted a lot of info he can't consciously access. I doubt it would enable him to take up another Shard more easily. I disagree that he's obsessed with survival though; yes, he wants to live if he can and he'll try his best to do so, but that isn't the same thing. He was very surprised Ruin didn't kill him when he gave up Preservation. He certainly expected to die properly that time, but it didn't stop him from doing the right thing. And I don't blame him for not going beyond; as far as he is concerned oblivion awaits him there. Why would he possibly want to go? I don't blame him for wanting to rejoin the physical realm either or for trying to get help; the way he returned though... well, I'm holding off judgement until I know exactly what he did. Highly suspicious however... And Spook's choices are his own. Personally, I suspect Era 4 will have Scadrial journey to Yolen, and we will be dealing with a scouting team. And Kell and Hoid will be VERY reluctant allies, who will annoy and amuse (but mostly annoy) the other characters with their passive aggressive interactions.

It's okay. Sometimes things don't come across clearly in text. Glad it's cleared up!

It would actually be written, on a schedule, in a reasonable time frame?

Thanks!

Why do I get the feeling Kell has refused to do anything with Allomantic gold? I think he'd be really uncomfortable with the possibilities and be unwilling to interact with images at all. I think burning gold forces one to take an honest look at themselves and their choices and this is DEFINATELY something Kelsier has trouble with. Or, in other words, I don't think he has a clue, the whole thing is making him very uncomfortable, and the thought that you can interact with those shadows, that they could be real on some level bothers him intensely - or would if he would actually examine his feelings on the matter. Which he won't, soooo... He just insists it's impossible. The scene tells us more about them, then about gold. I think we should go by Miles actions in Alloy with regard to that.

Trellium has only been shown to steal physical quadrant abilities. We don't know if it can take anything else. Also, Atium doesn't degrade (or does it very slowly.)

Too many discrepancies for it to be Marsh. He's not a mentor to Vin and his powers aren't unknown. And even at the end, the powers weren't unknown; his being alive was. Also, Marsh's fate isn't unknown; he survives and is still helping Scadrial. Last we knew he was taking a look at the South there... It does fit Prof slightly better than Marsh, but I don't think it really fits either.

Lerasium 'should' have a feruchemical and hemalurgic effect. My working theory is that Lerasium would steal sentience and degrades quickly as a spike. I don't have any ideas on what it would store. I'm with you on Leratium (my name for the Alloy) granting Feruchemy initially, but I think it changed after Harmony Ascended and the original two God metals stopped being produced. This is all just guess work though.

More like wishful thinking... I know some of those women. I'd love it if someone beat those men up.

? I don't see how that's relevant?

I actually know of a Rabbi who had the mafia 'convince' a guy to give a get... but that was the Italian mafia, and in the 60s I think. New York State is pretty good about this, as they actually have laws protecting the women. Women have power now too, as men are, for the most part, allowed only one wife. (There are some very hard to get exceptions; generally when the wife is vegetative or similar. And then convince 100 Rabbis that they should agree to it.) Some people I know got theirs because of that. It can also be put in a divorce settlement. Some women I knew got it that way. But it was much easier when we could beat the guy up. It also served as a better deterrent. (And if he didn't agree, well, a widow is free too...) So I am TOTALLY on board with a vigilante beating up these guys. But you'd need two - two witnesses! And one has to be a scribe. Also, at least one of the refusers has to try and invalidate the get after it's sent, only to discover that this actually anulls the marriage.

This is just so great!

They were at the South Magnetic Pole, not the geographical pole.

Restoring the cells back to the prior state doesn't necessarily mean what was lost is restored. My feeling is that memory is really stored in the Cognitive and that the brain acts as a receiver. TBIs mess with the receiver. When the brain dies the connection is broken. In between, I think, is what happens when the brain begins to die.I think at that point the connection between Cognitive and Physical begins to fray at the rate of brain death. Vegetative states would then be possible in the Cosmere, with the added twist that the Soul is still connected to the Physical even if the Cognitive isn't. Note that Nail specifically mentions that Szeth's brain was still alive. We have also only seen gold healing done immediately post or during the TBI, when only the receiver is damaged. The tissue hasn't actually started to die yet or has just died. Gold healing is likely more comprehensive though, as it is a spiritual healing ultimately and Connection is spiritual. It's possible that the magic AED isn't. If it just heals on the Physical, or Physical and Cognitive but not Spiritual, then my theory still makes sense. (As you can see, I've clearly been trying to figure out how brain damage works in the Cosmere. We know psychosis allows people to see into other realms. (Not mental illness in general, because Kaladin could do it then.) I'm still trying to figure that one out... best guess is that their Connections are confused, like the link between Spiritual and Physical is crossing over the one between Physical and Cognitive.)

BoM spoilers: Note that you have to use the inworld pronunciation for the limerick to work. This is supposed to be a jump rope poem that kids sing once this is better known. (No, the various Churches aren't thrilled. Yes, Kell thinks it's awesome.) Each jumper does one stanza, the next jumping in at the last word of the last line.

Just a thought I had; Jezrian could be Cabin. An infant sits around drooling, has no self control, and has unclear, random speech at first. The same traits could easily be applied to an alcoholic, which we are told Jezrian is.

Oddly, I read this as Szeth suffering brain damage from being dead for a few minutes before Nail showed up with the magical AED. So his Cognitive self is whole, but his Physical self is not and the two are having trouble communicating... No idea if that makes any sense though. How DOES brain damage work in the Cosmere?

It's also possible that wasn't the secret. In fact, it almost certainly wasn't. Once the North and South really got to talking SOMEONE was bound to mention that the Sovereign had blond hair and scars on his arms. Oh, and told people to 'Survive.' At which point everyone figures it out. Aside from that, I feel that Kell is still too arrogant to allow someone else, especially someone he hated, to get credit for something Kelsier did. All of which make me doubt that his existence is what he wanted to hide. So what secret is hidden there... I honestly have no idea. I could very well be over thinking this, but it is worth noting that Wax drops the coin midway through the memory. We still don't know what happened after 'Survive.' It could be in the part of the memory we don't see. It's also VERY likely that it is something that will seem obvious in hindsight, but we would have trouble guessing before the reveal. (How many times has that happened already?)

If Tolkien wrote the Stormlight archive... It would start off as several massive songs. it would be heavily reworked throughout his life and not be published during it. It would be compiled from his notes by his son who would edit it and release it, in many cases not in a way the fans agreed with. All the characters would have several names in several languages, some so well developed that they can be spoken. The use of the thorn plays a large role in Alethi politics. Kaladin is cursed by Odium to failure. He ends up with Shalan, who has had her memories altered. It turns out they were siblings, which Shalan only remembers after she has conceived, at which point she throws herself into a chasm. Adolin tells Kaladin who kills Adolin and then himself. Dalinar then dies in Navani's arms. (For some reason I feel that Kaladin would have made a good Turin...) Eventually Lift goes on a journey off world, during which some VERY insane Heralds destroy most of the peoples' safeholds. This journey causes all the non interference people to interfere. This wins the war, but also destroys a good chunk of the land. Odium is defeated, but there is a prophecy that he will return and Kaladin will kill him and Roshar will be remade. Oh, and near the end of his life the Cosmere back story is totally redone - but he never finished writing it... And IMPORTANT things, like Nale fostering two children after killing their parents is described as: 'and love grew between them, as little might be thought.' Many, many pages are spent on topographical descriptions instead. But it was all written by an in world historian, and the author is just translating a translation.

Ati was basically a puppet for the investiture to act through. The person he had been was long gone. Kelsier saw him for what he was; a shell housing power. Since what was left did not see himself as 'Ati' he had trouble taking that form convincingly. Or, at least, that was how I understood it.

I doubt they could heal a cold because Since all cosmere healing is based on the same principle I don't think the healing surge would work. And the problem with the common cold is how quickly it mutates. Heal one strain and there is another. Part of why we can handle colds is because we are adapted to it. As are our immune systems. There do not seem to be many illnesses on Roshar; therefore immune systems are likely not as strong. And if the cold doesn't exist then neither do adaptations to manage it. People who are immune compromised can get very sick or die from colds. Now imagine a world where everyone is immune compromised. All of a sudden one the most virulent, air born, mutating viruses is introduced. A plague is just the beginning. Or should be; I'd be really unhappy if it doesn't. Fortunately for Roshar, the Purelake seems to be fairly isolated. And it's possible the virus can't survive the high storms. On the other hand, SOMEONE has managed to get the word out... So much for non interference.

Ah, got it! I've seen lots of discussions that bring up other books on here though so I'm a bit confused. I fixed the Warbreaker spoiler; it now only makes sense if you've read the book. I can't put it in spoiler tags from my mobile or I'd do that.

Thank you for the compliment! Denth is depressed, not crazy. And he may not even be clinically depressed. Working in the mental health field I really hate the term 'crazy' or 'insane.' It's both insulting and vague. Maybe we could use another term? Generally I consider the word insane to be in reference to psychotics. Denth is many things, but not psychotic. His thoughts and plans are rational and organized; he does not have delusions or show signs of disorganized thinking. So I don't really consider him 'crazy.' I was unaware anything I posted was a spoiler. Both books came out years ago and are no longer considered spoiler territory. Also, the differing psychoses of the Heralds do not spoil plot points - with the possible exception of Nail which was why that was in a spoiler.