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    Also, aside from starting the reply then scolling up and quoting a different post, you can also use the "+" next to the "Quote" button to add "Multiquote." You should see a toaster popup in the lower right (at least on a computer) showing how many "Multiquotes" have been added. When yo uhave linked all the items to which you want to reply, click that pop-up and it will take you to the reply field and fill in all of the quotes Note: they add in the order you clicked them, not the original post order - so if you (for example) quote post 4, then 2, then 5; that is the order they are added to the reply (not 2,4,5). But you can also move them in the reply by grabbing the "four arrow" icon in the quote (or spoiler tag) top-left and dragging it up or down.
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    Just for the record, here it is: WoR Ch 41 Oathbringer Ch 120 RoW Ch 54 WoB
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    I apologize if I caused you distress, I was just trying to find the quote so I could put your original comment in context.
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    Alloy of Law takes place 341 Years post catacendre (PC). This assumes that many of the survivors became farmers PC. However, look at who the survivors were: Terris (who already had a herding/husbandry background) and Luthadel citizens in the caves complex. Urteau Citizens in the Urteau Chamber (few if any farmers or plantation Skaa) Fadrex Citizens and Luthadel Soldiers in the Fadrex Chamber (few if any farmers) Statilin Citizens in the Statlin Chamber (no information, other than Felt was there - may have had farmers/plantation Skaa) Vetitan was evacuated, and we don't know if any that went to the Kredik Shaw chamber (which would have been under the ruins after Vin's fight, but might have held some Luthadel Citizens before the fight that would have survived the keep's collapse if in the chamber) Also, @Duxredux makes a good point - just having some farming experience may not have been much help. It seems the majority of survivors would already have had an industrial inclination (since TFE was already an industrial society with factories). I can imagine Lord Mistborn would have had to provide heavy incentives to get people to read the words of founding to learn about traditional (pre-Lord Ruler) farming methods and take up a farming lifestyle. I think the industrial age simply grew from what it was in TFE, and as exploitation rose, this is the start of Scadrial's industrial revolution which, unlike earth, wasn't a migration of farmers toward city life - rather just a population that mostly never knew rural life so the urban industrialization just built from what the survivors already knew.
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    Wow. I had read Sphere (Micheal Crichton) 6 times by my senior year of high school. I hope you enjoy the experience; I have found that in rereads of many of my favorites books, I notice details and foreshadowing I missed on previous reads.
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    Battalionlord Teofil might object to that statement. RoW Ch 40 So it took a Darkeyed Battalionlord and a Lighteyed Queen to get the storming fools to act against an invasion (because you obviously can't trust a Darkeyes without a corroborating lighteyes; nor can you trust a female without a corroborating male - <sarcasm drips in background>) I can't find any version of "not all lighteyes!" in Oathbringer. Did you mean RoW, or perhaps this quote: OB Ch 70 --- For the record - anti-slavery and anti-discrimination are not the same. I do not recall any evidence of Jasnah doing anything against discrimination or the class-divide. I would expect that the anti-slavery thing will be Jasnah's (supported by Kaladin) and the class divide/discrimination thing will be Kal (supported by Dalinar-maybe Jasnah).
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    Well, it is a bit confusing, especially since there hasn't been a whole lot released about Spiritwebs or how they work. This is my (likely flawed) understanding: The Spiritual Realm is made up of Investiture and energy (kind of how the Physical Realm is "made up" of matter and energy. So, in the item you quoted "Connections and Investiture" is because the SR is made that way "Innate Investiture" is a quality, not a quantity e.g. Vin had Innate Allomantic Investiture. Which is why I was confused in my first reply - AFAIK you can't heap "innate investiture" you can invest an object/person on in the Cognitive or Physical realm and , as they become heavily invested, their spiritweb will expand (as the Identity changes to confirm the level of investiture) It would depend on the magic system. As you mentioned, Awakening Breaths are primarily in the physical, but so is Stormlight. Ultimately, if your question was "would adding unkeyed/unaligned investiture to the Spiritweb form into capacity for random Invested arts" then I would say no. Any capacity that developed would be shaped by Identity and Connection, and most invested arts require something else (Metallic Arts - genetic, Surges - Nahel Bond, etc.) that would not be covered by just a quantity of investiture. My first answer included the only known "abilities" that are based solely on how "invested" something is - rather than in which realm or how the investiture was added.
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    Concur. Disagree. I don't want to derail the thread discussing Wax. My only real point was that F-Savantism without compounding is nearly, but not quite, impossible.
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    First, I'll restate that we know: The Iriali migrated to Roshar, but not from Ashyn The Sleepless and Siah also likely emigrated from somewhere other than Ashyn The Natan people are Human/Siah hybrids Unkalaki and Herdazians are Singer/Human hybrids We also know: 16 is the number of Preservation (maybe Scadrial) 10 is the number of Honor So, I noticed this on a Row Reread (Ch 69) I wonder if that indicates they either migrated from a Shardic system affiliated with the number 12, or are hybrids with immigrants from such a location. This WoB notes:
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    Row Ch 73
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    Not quite. . . Coppermind - WoB Very difficult is not impossible. Wax could be a Skimmer Savant with how much (and how dextrously) he manipulates his weight.
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    He probably also knew Sibling no longer had Tower Light, and it was nigh uninhabitable. He probably also knew Midnight Mother was settled there (and probably had no way to know she was rousted - but that was after Dalinar and co arrived). By the time it was discovered, he was already happily making his little cult-kingdom and more focused on whatever experiemtns he is running on Spren. Since we can guess he needs his cult of humans to go to Shadesmar and capture spren for him, living alone in Urithiru wouldn't let him accomplish those goals; and I doubt he thought he could care for a cult in Urithiru without the Sibling. PS: He should have his own honorblade, based on his displays of surgebinding so he could unlock a gate on his own (if nale unlocked the Urithiru side); but would he really want to be activating Oathgates in public. IIRC, all but the one on the Shattered Plains and Aimia are in large cities/public areas; and he thought the SP gate destroyed and could not access the Aimian one either. . .
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    Don't forget generational pressure. For at least the first (and likely second) generation born post-catacendre; the parents (grandparents) that were plantation Skaa would likely counsel against farming. "You don't know what it was like" "You have so much opportunity that we didn't" "Anything but farming" "Learn an important skill" etc. Also, we don't know what, if any, effects the metallic arts had on Farming in and around Elendel (especially when starting - need crops fast? use Pewterarms and Steelrunners)
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    Agreed. Also, wasn't she shown to have some attraction to Wax in AoL? Wouldn't that imply she's not Aro? D/R - covered in OP.
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    Depends on perspective, but I agree. I was mearly linking the relavent information we did have (showing the lack of information directly related to the question). Common parlance hasn't quite encapsulated all the different "why"s and "how"s. Wikipedia: As far as Marasi is concerned, we only have the WoB I quoted above and know that, though cisgendered female, she has not been identified as asexual. We also do not know if BS knows/accepts/understands a difference between the two.
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    Exactly. But there are unknowns and assumptions here too. How big was the "refugee population," since it seems implied that it was most of the population of Ashyn (though some must have remained, or they wouldn't have developed their new society with the Floating Cities). Combine a population much greater than the current Shin population with a prediliction for war and combat that the Dawnsingers might not have had, and its possible that over the first decade the humans had already started trying to populate outside of modern Shinovar. Also, we don't know that the first/early wars were against all Dawnsingers everywhere. If Urithuru and Oathgates didn't exist, and travel was resticted each time a Human population settled a new area - then fought for the terrirtory - it could have been a localized war rather than a full-scale continent wide war. There's just too much unkown to draw conclusions, so we are left with speculation.
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    I wasn't doubting your theory or reasoning, just pointing out he was both a King and Emperor (if the wording should matter)
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    Shardblades can't be taken off of Roshar (at least not through the CR) for the same reason(s) Spren and Heralds can't leave Roshar. After all, that's part of the reason Nightblood was created (something like "Oh, we can't take one of these back - well lets go make our own Shardblade"). . .
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    Don't forget, Sazed was already a (reluctant) King before that too. . .
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    If this is the case, then the Heralds would have had to have found some way to extend their life (slow aging or some other means) since they (except possibly Ash) were in the migration from Ashyn to Roshar.
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    @Eternal Khol Did you not get the PM? I was unsure of the meaning of your "What" and thought you did not know/recall who Phendorana was. As for the quote where I mentioned her; all I was trying to accomplish was to add evidence to support your quoted statement.
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    Also found this (fragment) WoB: It's halfway through the last paragraph. . .
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    Uh . . . Highstorms and most Spren predate the Shattering. WoB
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    FTFY - as that is the reason (or primary reason) Thaidakar is being "sketchy." He really wants to bounce around the Cosmere, but can't leave Scadrial (as he saw in Secret History when he felt the increased pull of connection trying to get to the Ire Fortress). As for the question, I think we can't know the answer without knowing how he got his physical body. If we consider of known/suspected Shadows on the Physical Realm: Returned die normally, or when expending the Divine Breath that animates their corpse and making them returned E.G. Blushweaver killed by having her throat slit, Lightsong dying to heal the Godking Heralds/Fused return to the Cognitive Realm on Braize, but that is a feature of the Oathpact so we don't know if they would go to Shadesmar on Roshar now that the Oathpact is broken. Shades (threnody) are just weird because what happened in that system made everything there weird - so they may or may not apply in any of these theories. I think this would be the case for any "flavor" of Shadow or invested being in the Physical Realm (with or without a physical body, as Phendorana's fate shows)
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    Deposition of physical gases into physical solids is exothermic in that the thermal energy being pulled off has to lower the temperature of the gas enough to result in deposition. So, the exothermic heat removal is the cause and the deposition of gas into solid is the effect. I'm not sure that would translate directly in this scenario. First, investiture is a separate <thing> in the Cosmere (Matter, Energy and Investiture) which would imply that gaseous Investiture is not entirely the same as gaseous matter Here we seem to have the cause and effect reversed. The gaseous Investiture is "condensing" (Brandon's term which does not seem analogous to the state change of gas into liquid) into its solid form [cause], and there is a temperature drop in which water vapor condensation/deposition into droplets/frost (which does seem analogous to the natural condensation/deposition process) occurs [effect]. So, is deposition of Investiture endothermic as you suggest; or does the process merely convert Thermal Energy to help the investiture make a simultaneous physical state change and realmatic change (moving from SR to PR, while "condensing" into gas)?
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