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I'm relistening to Alloy of Law, and something jumped out at me as being odd. It was the scene where Wax is trying to determine the Aluminum alloy used in the guns and bullets. It seems to be a metal that he's not familiar with, and it's brought up a few times later (like when he visits Ranette). Do we ever find out what the other metal in them is (I've read all of Era 2, but can't remember it specifically)? It seems like a brand new thing (making guns and bullets out of aluminum), starting with the Vanishers, so I was wondering if it could be Trell's metal, since that group is involved with them.
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According to WoBs, there both were and were not Female Inquisitors. The second WoB, is from 2010 and is the more recent one. So I would say there were Female Inquisitors. It's possible for both WoBs to be accurate, if you assume that the Lord Ruler didn't create any Female Inquisitors, but more just because he chose not to. Whereas the Inquisitors that fought Vin towards the end were new Inquisitors made by Marsh being lead by Ruin. And Ruin wouldn't care who he turned, so long as he got Inquisitors.
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I'm pretty sure it's said in the books that only one medallion can be used at a time, and that they have to be specifically made to grant more than one power at a time. And that it's difficult to make multi-power medallions. Which is part of what makes the Bands of Mourning so unique.
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This is a good point. Although I don't know about influencing your surroundings, it could be possible that it increases your Connection to Preservation / Scadrial. I'm vaguely remembering an annotation that talks about how Allomancers are "closer" to Preservation or something, but it's been a long time since I read the annotations, and I didn't find anything after searching for about 10 minutes on Arcanum. That is to say, if burning Lerasium increases your Connection to Preservation, it could make sense that it would make you Mistborn (and also maybe have another side effect of if you were a Worldhopper, it could maybe allow you to speak and understand the local language). I'm on board for this theory.
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This is something I'm interested in doing as well (at least the reading it in order part), but never sat down and worked through it. It feels like something *someone* has done, but who knows where. The issue with reading them "chronologically" is that there's a big section in Mistborn Secret History where it's not really interacting with the Era 1 story. I definitely think the plan of attack would be to focus on Secret History, and where those events line up with Era 1. EDIT: So actually, it looks like the Coppermind summary already has a breakdown of this. Although it doesn't appear to be an exact chapter reading order.
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Are we sure she can't enter physically? It makes sense, because that seems to be the domain of the Transportation surge. But there's the scene in tWoK when Shallan is trying to prove to Jasnah that Shallan can Soulcast without a Soulcaster and Jasnah has to save her because she went too fully into Shadesmar and without enough Stormlight. My point being, maybe Soulcasters can get themselves *into* Shadesmar but can't get out on their own. According to the related Epigraph, it seems like Elsecallers (with both Soulcasting and Transportation) were the main points of contact to Shadesmar and the Spren, but that Lightweavers (sharing Soulcasting) and Willshapers (sharing Transportation) *could* be used.
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Obligatory (Spoilered for size): (Also, I hope those links work since I'm at work and can't actually see them. I'm trusting to @WeiryWriter's old post). EDIT: My phone tells me everything worked out fine
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Dalaniar was no where near the oathgate . Teft came thru the Oathgate . I think you're referring to two different events. The quote is from when Dalinar is fleeing Azir (i.e. when he remembered how Evi died and had to get away), where as Teft came through the Oathgate during the big battle. While we do not fully understand the Oathgates, we do know a little bit. We know the following: "Dead" shardblades do not work. "Living" Shardblades do work Honorblades *may* work To your original question of "What did Dalinar summon that allowed the Oathgate to work?" (assuming this is what you mean, and not what did he summon during the big battle). Based on what we know of Oathgates, the most likely answer is that Dalinar forced the Stormfather to manifest into a shardblade. The only assumption being made is that Dalinar *can* force the Stormfather into a Shardblade. It is possible that something else happened, but that would require more assumptions 1. that Dalinar can do whatever it is he did and 2. that doing that would allow the Oathgate to work. So until further information, I think Dalinar forced the Stormfather into a Shardblade in order to work the Oathgate in Azir. Someone else mentioned about the Oathgate spren not allowing passage. If I remember correctly (and @Calderis will probably correct me if I'm wrong ), that was only disallowing passage between the realms (Shadesmar and the Physical Realm). Travel from Physical Realm to Physical Realm was still permitted. Therefore, the crew in Shardesmar couldn't get the Spren of the Oathgate to take them to the Physical Realm, but Teft was able to later use the Oathgate to get from Urithiru to the big battle (Thaylen?).
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To the point about fire behaving oddly on Roshar, I don't think that's the reason spheres are used. I originally thought of the vision Dalinar has with the Midnight Essences, where he calls out an oil lantern as primitive. But searching for lantern in both Way of Kings and Words of Radiance shows multiple mentions of oil lanterns in "modern" times. My theory on spheres is that they evolved from gemstones/Stormlight. i.e. Stormlight was/is obviously important to Roshar. Gemstones can hold Stormlight, therefore gemstones become important. Very small gemstones become impractical (hard to count, easy to lose), but by encasing them in a bit of glass they are a bit easier to manage (because they are a bit larger). It could also be that encasing them in glass is the equivalent of "minting" money, in that lose gems have varying value, but a gem encased in glass has a specific constant value (depending on type and size of gem).
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You're right that the Keepers don't have memories of before Rashek's Ascension. But they have the record of the religions and at least pass on the idea the world *may* have been green beforehand. The only direct link we know about someone learning this information is that Sazed preaches Larsta to Mare, and Mare begins to believe in the green world. You're right again that I forgot about possible pre-Ascension worldhoppers. It's a possibility, but as I've said already, I'm leaning towards Demoux having just picked it up as a general rumor.
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Curse your use of actual text to back up your arguments yet again @Calderis! (and yet again, thanks) So Mare definitely learned it from Sazed. I'm leaning towards Demoux having picked it up from general rumor then.
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I haven't gotten to a part where Sazed finds it odd, but I'll be on the look out for it. In the second part, are you saying that Sazed preached to Mare about the old world? Because I don't think that's the case. I'm vaguely remembering Sazed say that he joined up with Kelsier shortly before Vin did. Here's some interesting things I found digging around the WoBs Two different WoBs saying there's more information forthcoming about Mare.
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I guess I should do some speculation of my own. Let's start with who knew about the pre-Lord Ruler world. Ruin Preservation Kelsier Vin Presumably all the Keepers The Kandra, maybe I think Ruin is right out, since there's no reason for him to spread rumors of a world prior to the Lord Ruler. Similarly, Preservation probably doesn't either (although he's more likely than Ruin). Vin is another one that's right out, since if she's the one who told him, she wouldn't be the one to question where he learned about it. I could see Kelsier telling Demoux, but there are some issues. Demoux seems to have learned of these things after Kelsier's death. That may not be an issue, but during WoA Kelsier was trapped in the Well. Demoux was devout enough, but Kelsier wouldn't have been able to reach him. Prior to Kelsier's death, I don't think Demoux and him were close enough for Kelsier to talk of Mare's dream of a different world. The Kandra were technically around prior to the Lord Ruler, but it's likely that only the First Generation have any actual memory of it (because we know that Kandra memories degrade when they don't have Blessings). And they're not very talkative. So I don't think it's from them. The Keepers may be spreading the rumors, in so much as they are trying to bring back the knowledge of the world. This seems to be the most likely cause, and it's probably like Vin said: it's just general rumor that is becoming stronger now that the Lord Ruler is gone. One last thing to think of is that Mare would have had to have heard about this stuff from somewhere as well. That means even while the Lord Ruler was alive, there would have been rumors. So maybe I'm just trying to look too deep into this. Stormlight Archive spoilers to follow
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In Well of Ascension, Demoux preaches about the yellow sun, the green plants, the blue and ashless skies. Vin asks him who told him about that, and I too am now wondering: Who told him of that. Vin chalks it up to rumors, but those rumors have to start from somewhere. Do we have any idea where they started? I have read all of the books, so feel free to bring any evidence.
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[OB] There's something - or someone - missing
Govir replied to Leyrann's topic in Stormlight Archive
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I've recently seen other fiction where a character is putting on a happy face while dealing with internal things. It always reminds me of this scene / quote from Shallan and Kaladin's time in the chasm during Words of Radiance. In my head, I normally shorten it to just "Oh, storms. She smiled anyway."
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Beard always makes up or embellishes stories. Beard says he can tell when a story is made up. Religion is a collection of stories. Beard believes they are made up, and therefore no one is watching over and protecting them.
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I used to do HEMA. Our Feders (i.e. Longswords) were around 48-52 inches. The Montante is considered a greatsword, and is definitely larger (I don't have the exact measurements off hand). I would say Nightblood is similar to a Montante. Of note, the Longswords in HEMA are larger than what I used to consider Longswords (from fantasy like D&D). They're more like what I would have called a bastard sword, in that they're meant to be primarily used two handed, but can be used one handed in a pinch (mostly for extended distance on thrusts and the sweep the leg technique. Anything else you lose too much structure). A Montante isn't being used one handed by normal people. Of course Nightblood is modeled after a Shardblade, so it's probably got some mystical attributes that make it easier to use one handed.
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I thought it was Dayblood? (fighter of Nightblood) ...I'll see myself out...
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Along these lines, do we know what the Purelake looks like in Shadesmar?
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Of note, I believe this is because it's the Windrunners and Skybreakers who are lashing others in order to make them fly. The Shardplate interferes with those lashings. It is unknown how a Windrunner / Skybreaker can lash themselves while wearing Shardplate (my guess hinges on the guess that Radiant Shardplate is from live semi-dumb Spren that can make an exception for the Radiant, but not an exception for an external force).
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Curse your use of actual text to back up your position! (But actually thanks)
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I'd have to re-read the section, but according to the OP it was the Fused who were saying "they harbored a false god". If it was the Fused who said this, I doubt that the Fused are the "actual" gods to them, and therefore they're referring to Spren in general as false gods and Syl specifically in this case. In any event, it was definitely either Kaladin or Syl they were referring to. Maybe even both.
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Most likely it was Syl, since she is of Honor.
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I got the impression that Sah's daughter was dead, based on the treatment of that group of Parshmen by the Fused.
