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Will the Cosmere Be Completed?
Stormgate replied to VirtuousTraveller's topic in General Brandon Discussion
Given how so many of the Cosmere books revolve around it, the main plot is probably of Hoid carrying out his master plan. Whatever that is. -
Indeed. MBTI is more than the superstition of zodiacs, and talking about this topic can help to find similarities between ourselves or others and characters inside our favorite books.
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So, I was thinking about Spider-Man's backstory: Gets powers. A family member is killed by these powers, changing the way he lives and acts. He becomes a hero, trying to fix first his mess, then the messes of the world. Despite all this, he's first with a joke or quip. Then I realized how similar it was to Shallan's story, and I began seeing more parallels: they both hide behind a mask to protect the ones they love, are intelligent and gifted with pictures, etc. So I began thinking of other parallels, specifically Avengers, but any others are welcome. Hulk and Vasher: Issues with anger/grumpiness, got the power to wipe out everything around in an experiment involving a weapon, etc. Any others people can think of?
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Your Zombie Apocalypse Survival Plan/World Domination Plan
Stormgate replied to Straw's topic in General Discussion
Canada has few people. So, fewer zombies. So, I have a better chance of survival. -
I have a theory that the Shards correspond with the 16 Metals of Allomancy and Feruchemy. I have no idea if this applies to Hemalurgy, I'm assuming for now that it does not. Anyway, the method I have used to gain evidence to support my claim is to take the different ways metals are classified and try to equate them to factors influencing Shards and their magic systems, such as Connection. After an epiphany while studying the Feruchemical table, I have figured out how Shards can be Realmatically oriented, as is done in the Feruchemical table. I'm not touching the Spiritual Feruchemical aspects, as the Spiritual Shards have not had enough screen time to get any conclusions. Anyway, a Shard's Realmatic orientation affects what people do to use the magic system. Honor, the Shard I have equated with pewter, has people interact with the Surges by physically inhaling Stormlight. Preservation's magic system involves physically swallowing metals, while Ruin's involves physically stabbing someone with a metal object. That's all for the physical Shards, Cadmium and Bendalloy being the Shards of Preservation and Ruin respectively. It should be noted that Cadmium and Bendalloy are in fact Feruchemically physical metals. Cognitively, things get interesting. Endowment is a Cognitive Shard, requiring Awakeners to form a picture in their minds of what they want their Awakened objects to accomplish. Devotion, also a Cognitive Shard, requires that Elantrians occasionally put themselves into the correct frame of mind, like Aon Omi requiring people to have positive feelings for the people in the room. Dominion, interestingly, equates with brass, which is a Feruchemically Physical metal. The symbols that seem prevalent among all forms of Selish magic seem to be more important here, being essentially branded with the symbols. Forgery also has physical symbols, but all Selish magic is a mix of Devotion and Dominion, AonDor and Dakhor are simply the most pure forms. I actually had this theory for a while, but the Selish Shards were messing me up. Also, if anyone has any theories about the relationship between Shards and the metals, PM me. I will be more than happy to examine your theory.
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I think I may have figured out the relationship between truth, lies, and honor. Shallan crafted intricate lies for herself to protect her from the trauma of killing not only her mother, but father as well. She also did everything she could do in order to drag her siblings out of the despair that was in her home. In a sense, she was lying to them and pretending that they were a normal family with normal interests. Her family was so desperately in need of relief that they were able, for a little bit, to become the people they wanted to be, but were forced to leave in exchange for damaging coping mechanisms like slowly killing animals and gambling. Making people believe that they are or could be better than they are is honorable in the sense of giving people who have accepted their lot in life hope, a bit of light into their gloomy existence. Now, that's how lying and honor are linked. Now for truth and lies. In WoR, Pattern compares the truth to a light, and lies to something casting a shadow in the light. These shadows can be beautiful and complicated, such as shadow puppets. However, Shallan, in covering up her past, effectively put a thick blanket over the light. In order to craft more and more beautiful and intricate lies, she needs to remove the lies she has woven around herself. Shadows are far more indistinct on an overcast day than on a clear day. Basically, by removing the lies protecting herself, she is better able to tell people the lies they need. If she removes enough lies, she may be able to craft lies so brilliant that people change who they are, day by day, in an effort to become that beautiful lie.
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They literally and figuratively dance on the edge, often without a care. The Stonewards could be linked with Tension.
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The Problem with Sanderson's writings
Stormgate replied to Young Bard's topic in General Brandon Discussion
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The Problem with Sanderson's writings
Stormgate replied to Young Bard's topic in General Brandon Discussion
Everyone is a hero in the right circumstances. Vice versa, everyone is a villian in a different circumstance. Denth's plan to overthrow the government is not unlike Kelsier's plot to overthrow the government. However, one was a villain and one was a hero. Hrathen is, in his mind, a hero, with the goal of preventing the destruction of Arelon and sorrow over the destruction of Duladel. Sanderson enjoys playing with this theme, making a psychopathic criminal the leader of a revolution to overthrow a corrupt government, for example. The redemption of characters for their actions, then, can really only be told from the point of view of the person as they're trying to clean up their own messes. Take Dalinar, for instance. In his youth, he was a warmonger and at one time wanted to kill his brother for the throne, the details of which I'm sure we will see in Oathbringer. Yet in the books, he has seen how wrong he was, and tries to unify Alethkar in truth as well as name. In Mistborn: Secret History, While my posts on this subject are probably contradictory on some points, it's mainly because I am becoming more familiar with the topic. If what you want is a character that is the villain until maybe the middle of the book, who then attempts to pull apart whatever structure he has built in order to prevent the outcome he initially wanted. If you want a character like that, you actually probably just have to wait until Sanderson gets around to dealing with that. -
The Problem with Sanderson's writings
Stormgate replied to Young Bard's topic in General Brandon Discussion
Sanderson occasionally grapples with the concept of redemption, but he seems to prefer dealing with the different aspects of villain motivation, being the hero of your own story, having the ends justify the means, etc. Although Sanderson doesn't often cover the topic of redemption, it's more because many of his more villianous characters are sure enough in their own motivations to be "incorruptible" by inferior philosophies. In fact, Sanderson's first published book, Elantris, has a villain redemption as a plot of the story. -
Minor issue: Odium has not been trapped on Greater Roshar, but on Braize, another planet in the same system.
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Wax: INTP Wayne: ENFP Steris: INTJ MeLaan: ESFP
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Squires are not the Windrunner effect. Other orders are said to have them, some more than others. The Bondsmiths, to use a bad example, likely had no squires, while Windrunners naturally have more. The main problem with identifying an effect is that we have no examples. If we knew the effect for one Order, or one Twinborn, we could probably extrapolate the rest using the information we had.
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Oh well.
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I'm rereading WoR, and I caught something: The first drawing, I believe, is one of what actually happened to the crewmen. The second is likely of the scene, the night of Gavilar's murder, when the Herald (forgot her name) destroyed her statue's features. The importance of these drawings is that they demonstrate that Shallan can draw real events that she did not witness. I'm not sure, but perhaps this is the "perk" of being able to control both Transformation and Illumination.
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Reading Ym's Interlude, Nalan said that it took a while to discover his infraction. This indicates the Herald is searching for Radiants, and trying desperately to prevent the Desolation. In a twisted fashion, of course, but the goal seems to be there.
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I'm rereading WoR, and I noticed something: It seems as if the Listeners have the Honorblades, except for Szeth's Blade. They likely use them for growing food, using Progression, but with the arrival of the voidforms, the ramifications are terrifying.
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It seems like the Nightwatcher giveth, and the Nightwatcher taketh away. One man got some cloth to sell, and got in return his vision flipped upside down. You have something removed in exchange for something given. This could be a magic system not utilized by a person, but a Shard or powerful spren. We don't know very much, but I think it's safe to say that, with the exception of Hoid and other worldhoppers, the only influences on Roshar are the result of the three Shards we know of. With the variety of WoB's we have, it's not likely that Sanderson could have wiggled out of saying that the Nightwatcher is alien. Or, at least, more alien than the Shards.
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I'm rereading WoR, and I just got to the Ym interlude. The thought occurred to me that we know the Surges that correspond to each order. I have been trying to memorize them, but it's difficult when you don't have all the Surges clearly defined. Anyway, Ym clearly uses the Progression Surge to help the boy that visited him. I thought for a minute that Ym could be of the order of Edgedancers, but his spren—described as being like a reflection, indistinct—is nothing like Wyndle. Thus, I must conclude that Ym had the potential—as he wasn't actually a Knight—to become a Truthwatcher. Now here's the interesting thing. We know Renarin is a Truthwatcher. Could the spren, after Ym's death, have bonded with Renarin? Ym says his spren is shy, but also curious, which matches what we know of Renarin's spren.
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Nightwatcher Boon/Bane (Game)
Stormgate replied to killersquirrel59's topic in Forum Games & Random Stuff
Granted. However, you trade intelligence for social competence, and are now one of those people who texts things like "I'm in New Mexico! #goingforeign" I wish for free, un-password-protected Wifi wherever I go. -
You Know You're a Sanderfan When...
Stormgate replied to Shardbearer's topic in General Brandon Discussion
You know you are a Sanderfan when the conversation above causes a lot of heartburn. -
Favorite Sanderson Villain?
Stormgate replied to Toaster Retribution's topic in General Brandon Discussion
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Water allows things to travel through it. Solid things don't. You travel through the parts where it's easy, and avoid the parts where it isn't. If you've ever watched a moving crowd, it's often like a river of some sort. A disturbance in the path will cause a similar division and reuniting as is seen in a river. If a large crowd is trying to get out of small exits, they often form funnels that behave not unlike hourglasses. We like to think of ourselves as being independent, but often, we aren't. I personally use my knowledge of how people travel by finding the paths that aren't taken, and use those, allowing me to get ahead of the crowd.
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I'm planning on taking a hiatus from Sanderson and the Shard for two years. When I get back, I will probably have Oathbringer to read, and maybe some other stuff.
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While it has some of the elements of the hero's journey, it really isn't. Most of the actual action happens after he gets back. On topic, I can see how the rebellion that people express during adolescence is turned on its head when you raise your own rebellious children. I have no children, but my mother has said that the curse of a mother is to have a child that is just like you.
