TheMightyLopen

8 hours ago, Shqueeves said:

lopen because no evil-minish-wizard-thing-that-also-is-the-god-of-wind should be trusted. Besides, he turned Ezlo into a hat. 

My past crimes don't mean I'm guilty of current ones, right?

26 minutes ago, randuir said:

@Ecthelion III, @livinglegend, neither of you have posted yet. Both of you have also been online since the start of the game, so it'd be nice if you could check in.

Also, I'll be voting Straw for now. His vote on BR was either because he missed that she'd already posted, in which case the fact that his only contribution so far is the one line vote against her doesn't exactly paint him in a favorable light, or he did see that, and voted on her for some other reason without explaining why.

His vote isn't the only one without any reasoning, but most of the others guilty of that have at least contributed a bit more to the thread than he has, even if most of it is RP (nothing wrong with RP, just try to combine it with some in-game insights).

I would like to state that I'm slightly suspicious of Elenion, but he's also one of the few players that has actually been contributing a lot to the game side of things, so it's not to surprising that some of the things he has said make me weary of him. Given that most of the players haven't done anything alignment indicative yet, I'd prefer to keep a potentially suspicious contributor in the game for at least the first cycle just to keep discussion going.

I sent livinglegend a PM, which he has responded to. Not drawing any conclusions from that, but thought I'd mention it.

I'm also slightly suspicious of Elenion, but if I'm being honest, I tend to be suspicious of him in most games, so if I ever do vote on him, it probably won't be until a later cycle(like, 3 or later).

11 minutes ago, Coop772 said:

You didn't. you said I should revenge poke you. and by you, I actually mean Lopen. I goofed
TheMightyLopen for the reasons stated above

 

Wow you weren't supposed to tell everyone I said that.  Also I said that when I didn't have any votes, now I've got 2. Mind removing it? >_> I'll even remove mine. Coop.

Not much to say yet, I haven't gotten many reads from the posts so far. I think Devotary brings up an interesting point about Monster having posted a couple times but hasn't voted, so I'll stick my vote there, since Monster could be trying to lay low.

I don't think we need an extension. We've still got plenty of time.

Anyways, even though I don't have to vote this cycle, that doesn't mean I don't want to!  Coop, you seem suspicious. It's just a gut read. You just seem off somehow. I just haven't gotten a village vibe from you. Now no one can say my vote doesn't have any reasoning behind it, hehe

I'll join in as Vaati. Looks like a good one. It'll be interesting to see what happens when everyone has to vote. I've wanted to try and make that happen in other games, because I don't think we've ever done it.

6 hours ago, Crimsn-Wolf said:

So, I feel like it would be much more productive if we could switch to having longer days and shorter nights. There really isn't anything to discuss during the night, and it just seems like having more time to discuss lynch targets would be more beneficial. @A Joe in the Bush and @Elbereth, would such a change be possible if enough people agree?

4 hours ago, Droughtbringer said:

I'd agree to shorter nights. 

1 hour ago, Magestar said:

Same.

 

The thing is, why do we need to have more time to discuss lynch targets? I feel like most of the game will be in PM's where people are trying to build alliances and stuff, and the Night is when we're all trying to figure out our actions so we don't just block each other, which is why I think longer Nights are more helpful.

6 hours ago, Elbereth said:

(That isn’t an invitation to fill the thread with discussion of that. If you’d like to switch, you may say so in your GM PM, not here. Thank you.) 

8 minutes ago, Devotary of Spontaneity said:

"You may also, at any time you want, make any number of PM’s with any number of other Players."

I don't see any reason to lynch Drought in particular, especially as House Tormander now has a full five members. For now, I will vote on Walin, who is a member of the house that seems to be most interested in seeing Drought dead.

Actually Drought and Bugsy sound very mysterious and suspicious in our doc, so you should definitely lynch one of them to see if they're up to something evil.

Since I can't vote on one of them, I'll add my vote to Walin for no particular reason. I just picked him out randomly. 

I'll join as Quetzal. I think I'd prefer longer Nights.

So kind of El to sit this one out. She's too good at wiping out her own faction.

Aftermath

Mac was killed by the eliminators! He was a Passion Soother!
Arinian was killed by an Anger Rioter! He was an Anger Soother!
Walin was lynched! He was a Fear Rioter!

The Inquisitors Plants have won! Congratulations to Alvron, Steeldancer, and livinglegend for not losing a single member and completely wiping out the village!

Full player list:

Game thoughts: I actually thought I may have given the village the advantage to start the game, since I gave them a Seeker and only started the elims with 3 players, but then the elims killed the Seeker on Cycle 1 and didn't get much resistance after that. I still think the village had a fair shot, but inactivity struck the village pretty hard in this one. The most notable actions were Joe's scan on Steel Cycle 1, but of course he died right then, so he wasn't able to tell anyone(Alv was protecting Steel from scans, but it still would have looked suspicious I think), and then Mac roleblocked Alv on Cycle 2 so Alv couldn't kill anyone with Steel's Rioting. It was disappointing how little the pairing system was used and how little players even used their actions, but again, inactivity was really bad this game. That's pretty much all of my thoughts.

Here are the docs:

Eliminator doc
Spectator/dead doc

The Cycle, and game, is over! Aftermath will be posted soon.

Cycle 4

Kasimir was attacked by the eliminators, but survived! Then he was attacked by an Anger Rioter and died! He was a Joy Rioter!
Devotary was attacked by an Anger Rioter and died! He was a Fear Soother!
Darkness was lynched! He was a Joy Rioter!
Pestis was killed for inactivity! He was a Joy Soother!
Drought was killed for inactivity! He was an Anger Soother!
Guava was killed for inactivity! He was a Joy Soother!
GreenRover was killed for inactivity! He was a Joy Rioter!

Vote tally:

Darkness(2): Kasimir, Steeldancer
Devotary(1): Arinian
Kasimir(1): Darkness
Arinian(1): livinglegend

Player Pairs:

no one

Cycle ends at:

Player list:

Cycle is closed! It might take me a little longer to get the next one up.

I'm extending this Cycle by an hour since I won't be around at the normal time.

Cycle 3

Monmet was killed by the eliminators! They were a Fear Rioter!
Kynedath has been lynched! They were a Passion Soother!

Under normal circumstances, both @Pestis the Spider and @GreenRover would have died from inactivity, but considering they're both first time players, I'm giving them an extra 24 hours to join us.

Vote tally:

Kynedath(4): Arinian, Alvron, Monmet, Devotary
Monmet(1): Kasimir
Alvron(1): Mac
Guava(1): Steel

Player Pairs:

Kasimir - Devotary

This Cycle will end at:

Player list:

Cycle is over!

47 minutes ago, Kynedath said:

I feel I shouldn't be using Wilson's name for the purposes of my own character, so with the GM's approval I am going to change my RP name to Nils. The character will remain the same, just the name will change. Sorry if this causes any confusion.

Approved and changed.

36 minutes ago, Steeldancer said:

Does that mean I can rename my character nu-Wilson?

No.

Cycle Two

Joe/Sabine was killed by the eliminators! They were a Passion Rioter!
No one was lynched!

Vote tally:

Walin/Merb(2): guava, Steeldancer
Devotary/Cactus(2): Alvron, Joe
Pestis(1): Mac
livinglegend/Gio(1): Monmet

Player Pairs:

Kasimir - Devotary

This Cycle will end at:

Player list:

Cycle is over!

6 hours ago, Steeldancer said:

Almost makes you wish you had me as your co-GM again, huh? 

I certainly wouldn't be opposed to that.

I recently realized I forgot to put in the list of who's who in terms of Rioting or Soothing, so here you are:

Rioters - Darkness, Walin, Joe, Steeldancer, Kasimir, MonsterMetroid, GreenRover
Soothers - Mac, Drought, Devotary, Pestis, livinglegend, Kynedath, gauva, Arinian, Alvron

I will include this in the player list each Cycle.

Cycle 1

This Cycle will end at:

Player list:

1 hour ago, MacThorstenson said:

Actually 4, if you count me.

EDIT: one last question before the game begins. If there are 10 people, and each vote to lynch each other, everyone has a 10% chance of dying. What happens if they all die? or can only one person get lynched each round.

...Not sure why, but I thought you'd played before.  Anyways, welcome then!

Everyone could die, so it would end in a tie. I may change this though, since ties aren't very fun, IMO.

I've got family over, so I'll be a little late getting things up. Sorry for the delay!

On 1/16/2018 at 6:13 PM, MonsterMetroid said:

I'll sign up as Monmet

3 hours ago, GreenRover said:

I've been lurking over my brother's shoulder for a year, and I think I'm ready to play an SE game. I'll sign up as Farron, a half-skaa that was caught outside in the mists, jumped in an open box to hide from any mistwraiths, and in the morning found himself in the back of a clothier's shop in Luthadel.

I believe that makes 3 first time players! Hope you all enjoy the game!

Signups are closing in about 5 minutes.

Okay, well, I'm back early, so here goes. @Kasimir

2. Back to answering this one. I put them as simultaneous since all of them are, in a way, roleblocks or redirects. They can still mess with each other, but I can't really say that one of them comes before the rest. As an example, if I said Passion Soothing came before the rest, then it would be unblockable by Joy Rioters, which would make the Joy Rioters much less effective, since they'd only be able to block 3 of the 4 Soothing abilities. For abilities that would block each other, such as a Passion Soother targeting an Anger Rioter who targeted the same Passion Soother, I'll flip a coin to decide whose action comes out on top(in case that isn't clear, here's what I'm thinking - Kaladin, a Passion Soother, targets Sadeas, who is an Anger Rioter, so Sadeas would be roleblocked. However, Sadeas targeted Kaladin, which would make Kaladin attack Sadeas instead of roleblocking him. I would flip a coin to see whose action wins out. If Kaladins wins out, Sadeas is roleblocked. If Sadeas wins out, Kaladin attacks Sadeas.).

I hope that explains how I'm going to deal with those 4 abilities when they target each other.

10 hours ago, MacThorstenson said:

I just have a few questions about anger rioters,

When Anger Rioters riot someone, do they get to choose who they attack, or will they attack whoever they were targeting for their original action. For example, if I riot an anger soother, will they attack whoever they were soothing that turn, or will I choose who they attack?

Also, if someone is attacked, will they be killed?

And finally, if they are killed, I assume that we will find out their alignment and role. Am I right in making that assumption?

 

They will attack whoever they were soothing that Turn.

Unless they're paired up with someone and get the 50% protection.

You are correct in that assumption.

9 hours ago, A Joe in the Bush said:

From the phrasing, it seems like, if Bob is soothing Alex, and Carol the anger rioter targets Bob, then Bob will kill Alex. Carol doesn't know who Bob's target is, just that Bob will kill them.

Seems like it was designed to require two people to agree on who to kill if you want to get any use of it.

'Coutse, that is just my interpretation. It could be wrong.

That's my interpretation too.

8 hours ago, MacThorstenson said:

Also one final question, Would we know any details about the death? Will we know that Alex was killed because of the anger rioter?

Hmmm. I'll say yes, you will know it was because of an anger rioter. I'll just say something like "Alex was killed by an angry person" or something. xD Well, I'll try to make it clear in the write-up, but knowing me, I can't guarantee I'll have the write-ups up right away each Cycle.

8 hours ago, Kasimir said:

I do have a few remaining questions/comments about the Order of Actions. I hesitated to ask, since you mentioned you'd go over them the next day again, but then I figured I may as well ask since that might streamline your efforts to check your Stack. So, without further ado:

1. (This is, admittedly, not a Stack-related question.) In addition to the previous Anger Rioter questions, I'd like to check if an Anger-Rioter can affect someone who has not taken an action. [Note: I'm well aware I'm a pedant, so I'm asking because I don't just want to know that nothing special happens, I want to know if nothing simpliciter happens  ]

1b. Is there an action limit? e.g. if I send in a pair order, can I still use my metal?
1c. Does a vote count as something that an Anger-Rioter can affect? What about a pair order?
1d. Here's a scenario I'd like a ruling on. Moash is an Anger Rioter. Kaladin is a Fear Soother targeting Dalinar. Kaladin has been Rioted by Moash. However, Navani has used Anger Soothing on Dalinar. Does this mean that Kaladin's Riot-induced action will not affect Dalinar? Or does Anger Soothing only affect Rioting used directly on the target, such that it only cancels out actual Riots of Kholinar Dalinar?

2. Stack-Related: I assume that all actions belonging to the same bracket take place simultaneously. This implies that Passion Soothing and Joy Rioting take place simultaneously. My interpretation of this would be that Passion Soothing cancels out the target's action, while Joy Rioting makes the target immune to further soothing efforts. Would this be a correct interpretation of the Stack? (I have the same question for Anger Soothing, basically.) More importantly, this would also seem to entail that Passion Soothing and Anger Soothing basically can only block Soothing/Rioting in Bracket 2. Again: is this a correct interpretation? If not, then I think Bracket 1 needs to be streamlined a bit more.

Side-comment: I can see a bit of weirdness springing from Bracket 2, but the more I think about it, the more it seems like one of those things you just have to stipulate, so I'm gonna ignore it. Given your clarification on the death probabilities for each voted player being independent, Bracket 3 looks good as it is.

3. Only caveat is that I assume when you say that (given 10 players), a player with 2 votes on them would have a base probability of 0.2 (for death), you are taking that out of the existing pool of players alive at the beginning of the round, in order to not complicate things further for yourself?  (The corollary I want to ask about is whether this number is pegged to how many players the game begins with, or how many living players there are, such that if there are only 4 players in the game, then one vote now confers a base probability of 0.25 for death. Would that be correct?)

Thanks for dealing with these, Skaa Bro

1. No, they can't affect someone who hasn't taken an action.

1b. I'm not counting pairing up as an action exactly, so you could still send in an action. Otherwise, yes, there is a limit. The only thing that affects is the elim kill(whoever sends it in can't use their metal action).
1c. Votes and pairings don't count as actions.
1d. I hope this never happens...  Ok, I see what you mean, and since Kaladin is actually the one getting Rioted, his attack of Dalinar would go through in that case. Now if you asked me what happens if Navani had used Joy Rioting on Dalinar, I'd have to admit that I'm not sure what would happen. >> Well, I think I'll rule that even Joy Rioting wouldn't stop Kaladin from attacking Dalinar, since I seriously doubt he'd thematically use Soothing to kill Dalinar at that point.

2. I think it needs to be streamlined more too. :/ I have to go right now, but I'll do my best to clear up the OoA when I get back(maybe 2 or 3 hours from now).

3. Sounds right. It's players alive at the beginning of the Cycle, not the start of the game.

3 hours ago, Arinian said:

@TheMightyLopenIf there will be not enough players you can count me in. Or if you will want 1 more player.

The more the merrier!

Just now, Kasimir said:

Ah, #GMwoes  (Well, to be fair, I rarely pop by the SE subforums, so...unsurprising?)

Just a few more questions to table:

1. I'm assuming that death chances are pegged to each individual player, and as such, a lynch may kill several people at once. Would this be correct?
z.B. Adolin has 3 votes, Renarin has 3 votes, and Dadlinar has 2 votes. (Assume a total of 10 players.) So Dalinar has a 20% chance of dying, but Adolin and Renarin have 60% chances of dying each. (So it's not mutually exclusive.)

2. How long do pairs last for? If Adolin and Renarin send in orders to pair up during Cycle 1, I assume they're paired for Cycle 2. But do they need to re-send in orders to pair up with each other during Cycle 2, for the next cycle? Or is it taken as a 'default' that they will be together until one of them sends in an order to pair up with Dadlinar, and Dadlinar does the same?

3. If a tree falls in a forest, does it make a sound?

4. How many questions can I ask before someone notices I've stopped asking game-relevant stuff?

1. Correct.

2. Only 1 cycle, so they would need to re-send orders for the next Cycle if they still want to be paired up.

3. Yes. (As a GM, my word is final)

4. 3?

5. I think I just realized how many coins I'm gonna have to flip this game.

3 minutes ago, Kasimir said:

I pop by sometimes, Skaa Bro

For the record, could we get the Stack/Order of Actions? I have to confess, I'm having difficulty wrapping my head around some of the rules/interactions. (Maybe this means I should just play by RNGesus  )

I guess I don't pay enough attention to whose lurking about then.

Oh, right. I meant to do that earlier, but I was in a rush when I first posted signups and then I kept forgetting. Adding them now.

21 hours ago, Kasimir said:

[cool RP here]

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Too much RP for a sign-up? This one seems so sparse :/ Either way, Valens has love-life problems and figures this might be just the thing.
 

 Kas! Signing up for Joe'smy game! Glad to see you(and you're RP ) again!