TheMightyLopen

1 hour ago, BrightnessRadiant said:

@TheMightyLopen stop lurking:P

Awww, that's no fun.

16 minutes ago, Crimsn-Wolf said:

Cadmium Compounder; CadCom is actually the person I am the most suspicious of. I don't know exactly why, but all their posts have felt incredibly off to me. They also vote on Shqueeves without really giving their own reasoning or suspicion, which makes me even more suspicious.

He hasn't voted on Shqueeves though? He's one of the few who hasn't voted on him since the information about Shqueeves was posted. Not that I disagree with you though, because Cadcom is actually one of my top suspicions as well. Specifically, I thought he sounded too sure of himself in his post where he first voted on Bard last Cycle. 

I was a bit suspicious of Steel early on, but he really hasn't posted much lately, which strangely enough makes me lean more village on him because I think he'd be actively trying to avoid suspicion were he actually evil instead of going quiet. Just doesn't seem like the type of elim to do that.

Straw is another I'm mildly suspicious of, although I've been wrong multiple times before with him, so I'm very unsure about that read.

Shqueeves seems like a good lead, so I'll drop my vote there just to increase the gap. I think Mailliw's suggestion for the Wildmen is especially useful this Cycle, since it looks like the lynch is basically decided for this Cycle(barring any new information). For that vote I'll go Cadcom.

No one else has really stood out to me as suspicious that I can recall. Tbh I haven't gone over everyone's posts very thoroughly, so I don't have a lot of strong reads. I've got a couple village reads, but I feel like in a conversion game it's risky to try and convince people of someone's innocence because that makes them a target for conversion, so I'll keep those to myself unless I think I should defend them from a lynch or something.

I guess I should post something...

While I'm normally for aggressive plans, I do think revealing factions this early would probably do more harm than good. I think I agree with Alv that only one of the elims probably started in a gang, especially since Galladon's ability is to help them figure out who is in which faction. If they started off in 2 factions, they could fill things in pretty fast with that ability and their conversions. I'm glad this was brought forward for discussion though, since I think we can look over the responses and hopefully glean some information on players alignments. I'll look over things tomorrow to see if I can catch anything fishy.

I don't really have many more thoughts. I got clarification from Joe that we do need a 2 vote minimum to lynch someone, which means Raoden can't just kill someone with his vote manipulation if we decide not to put any votes down.

Ooh, I can't miss @Mailliw73's return! Welcome back!

Sign me up as Flavio!

Yeah, this all seems right. Araris.

1 hour ago, Araris Valerian said:

@TheMightyLopen I haven't voted for Alv this game. I just put him on my list of people to coinshot, which someone clearly took to heart.

Right, that's what I was thinking about.

Just now, _Stick_ said:

By now, almost everyone knows that I'm the mistborn, so I might as well just state it in-thread. XD I don't know who attacked me, but I got lucky.

So it wasn't Rae then?

Also, Rae, great job with the song parodies! That must take some serious work. And of course excellent shot on Devotary.

Whaaaaat?!  That's awesome. I was aware that Devotary was being attacked, hence removing my vote late in the Cycle, but how did Alv die? What's funny is he was my suggestion to the player who killed Devotary.

@Straw, who died from inactivity? Bort?

Current suspects: Araris, Lopen2arms, and Arraenae. Araris voted on Alv once I believe, and Rae put suspicion on Devotary(but also on Snipexe at the same time and didn't vote).

I'm actually really curious to know Elanderas alignment, so I'll switch. Devotary. Elandera.

1 minute ago, I think I am here. said:

 

13. TheMightyLopen (Oplen)

Village, it’s been proven

 

To explain this, I've been scanned and I told Itiah about it just a little while ago. 

Well, I think I'm just gonna be playing by gut the rest of the way. I haven't had much time and since it's a QF, things go by so fast that I feel like I'm just gonna fall behind if I only post when I've got a lot of time to look things over.

So, with that in mind, I'm gonna vote Devotary. He's one of the players I've got in my "maybe suspicious" list, and I didn't really like his vote on Snipexe as it seemed somewhat bandwagon-y.

To make sure everyone is aware, we probably don't have enough time for more than one mislynch. So we need everyone voting!

3 hours ago, Araris Valerian said:

Well, I think I remembered why I don't play QF games anymore. Sleeping through rollover is kind of a bother. Thank you to the Soother, I'd prefer to see my lynch coming than die by surprise.

Okay, so C1 was pretty boring. I think the only thing I can really get is a slight villager read on Itiah for being willing to place the second vote on Drake, although Itiah apparently didn’t realize he was the second vote on Drake. Stick does bring up a reasonable point that Drake is leaning village since there wasn't an effort to stop the lynch on him. However, I'm hesitant to make too much of a read out of that considering that rollover is when a lot of people are asleep.

C2 was a bit more interesting. We had 4 votes on Itiah, and then they all sort of disappeared. It's hard to analyze this without knowing Itiah's alignment. If Itiah flips village then I would get a mild elim read on DoS, since the last minute retraction on Itiah feels more like a calculated move to me than actually believing in his innocence. If Itiah flips elim then I'd suspect Lopen, since Cadcom is village.

I get a mild village read on Rae for defending Elandera.

C3: I'm not really sure about Stick. I can't really say much about her getting attacked without trying to guess the elim team distribution. As for Elandera, I'm not sure. But DoS's last post makes me suspicious that Elandera is village and DoS didn't want to be on the back end of a bandwagon on someone they knew to be village.

Itiah is probably village because of the stunt he tried to pull. Which points a bit to DoS again. Except then Itiah thinks DoS is village.

It's probably just me, but I don't like how quickly the lynch on me formed. Makes me suspicious of both Lopen1 and Stick.

Village reads: Itiah, Rae

Elim reads: Snipexe, Lopen1, DoS, Stick

People that should be coinshot because they are too quiet: Alvron, Lopen2, Pyro

I should probably have done this sooner. Then I wouldn't have voted on Itiah last cycle.

Yeah, after putting my vote on you, I started feeling bad about your lynch, so I was going to remove my vote from you last minute just to try and get as much reactions to your lynch as possible, but I accidentally fell asleep. For what it's worth, I'm glad you didn't die, even though I'm still not sure about your alignment.

27 minutes ago, Arraenae said:

Midnight, you come inthread to lurk around
Quick fix, could end in burning flames or paradise
Fade into view, oh,
It's been a while since I have even heard from you
(Heard from you)
And I should just tell you to speak 'cause I
Know exactly where it leads but I
Watch you go lurk and lurk each time

 

You got that barely in the game look in your eye
And we got posts to read from players in our sights
And when we go crashing down, we come back every time
'Cause silence never goes out of style, it never goes out of style

You've got that homework to do in your university dorm
And we got that hard working eyebags after a night of brainstorms
And when we go crashing down, we come back every time
'Cause silence never goes out of style, it never goes out of style

 

So it goes, your can't keep your wild eyes in the game
Goes on home, lights are off you're going on Netflix
I say "I've heard that you've been out and about with some other game, some other game"
You say "What you've heard is true but I
Can't stop thinking about this QF" and I
I said "I've been there too a few times"

 

But that's still doesn't make the lack of game-related context any less suspicious, @Devotary of Spontaneity and @Snipexe. If you two don't say more by the end of the cycle, my vote's going on you.

 

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Devotary hasn't said very much meaningful things, mostly RP, so I wouldn't be opposed to lynching her. Interestingly enough, out of the three votes she's put down, two were on Snip and retracted before rollover ended. It feels like Devotary could be an elim trying to stay noncommittal.

Snip also hasn't said very much. He says that he doesn't like voting C1, because he's scared of accidentally lynching a villager and being lynched for that later on. That feels much more defensive than I'd expect of a villager. Also, later on, when it's not C1, he still hasn't put down a vote, even though there's more information now.

I wouldn't oppose a lynch on one of them. I don't see anything suspicious in particular, but I don't see anything villagery either.

 

I can agree with this. If I had to move one of my "don't want to lynch" players into the "am fine with lynching" list it'd probably be Snipexe, since I don't have anything substantial on him. Hm, actually, I just read his last post of last Cycle, which I hadn't seen yet. Still no solid read, but I think it reads more village to me, because of the way he reacts to probably dying right then. Devotary, still not sure either, but he's always been tough to read for me.

Straw rescinded the rule about tied lynches resulting in both players deaths. So if the lynch does tie, only one player will die. I'm fine leaving it up to chance if it comes down to it, because I've got no clue.

1 hour ago, I think I am here. said:

Actually, in my PM with CadCom he asked me if I had a seeker so he could check Oplen's 'claim'. What this claim was I have no idea. Oplen, mind explaining?

Well...at this point I figure people could put 2 and 2 together and guess that I claimed Thug to Cadcom. I'm not a Thug, but I just wanted to make it less likely for the elims to kill me in case either Cadcom or Lopen2arms was an elim(because me and Cadcom claimed to each other in a group PM he created on C1 with me, him, and Lopen2arms).

Anyways, new vote tally:

Snipexe(4): Gancho, Drake, Devotary, Bort
Gancho(2): Alvron, Rae
Oplen(1): Araris
Araris(3): Stick, Drake, Oplen

Guess I'll add my vote to Araris like I said I would.

6 minutes ago, I think I am here. said:

To be honest, I don't think any of the two players we're lynching right now is an elim. I haven't got enough information on Gancho, but through my PMs with Snip I've definitely got a village read from him. Everything from the Citizen method (which we used before I stopped) to confirm we were both villagers to the fact that he didn't want me to get lynched gave me a genuine vibe from him. @Devotary of Spontaneity, he was the one who told me to share my innocent logic with you, because you had recently voted on me. I don't think an elim would do this.

I realise it's dangerous to be siding with the person who seems to be under the most suspect right now, especially after what has been happening with people suspecting me, but I don't want another villager to be lynched, and I really believe Snip is a villager. For this reason, I'm not going to vote, since the two leading people in getting lynched aren't suspect to me.

Of course, if one of them does end up being an elim, then I'm kinda screwed for trusting them.

I also don't like the lynch targets all that much, so if you gave a compelling argument to lynch someone else, I'll vote alongside you. The players I don't want to vote on are: me, Drake, Bort(might die soon), you, Rae, Gancho, Snipexe, and Lopen2arms. That leaves Alvron, Devotary, Elandera, Stick, and Araris.

37 minutes ago, Elandera said:

I think I'm going to step in and defend Gancho, though I might not be the best candidate. He's a new player and I feel his response was honest in not realizing village coinshots might accidentally kill an ally. There are a lot of roles with different mechanics that could get confusing for someone just approaching SE.

That being said, I'm thinking I'll place a vote on Stick. There was an odd comment made in PM about my role and someone possibly knowing it before I was lynched.

Could you elaborate more about your reasoning for voting Stick? I don't understand the thought process exactly about someone knowing your role leading to Stick being suspicious. To be clear, I'm still unsure about Stick myself, so I don't mind the vote, but I'm just not sure what you're getting at.

Vote tally:

Snipexe(3): Gancho, Drake, Devotary
Gancho(2): Alvron, Rae
Oplen(1): Araris
Stick(1): Elandera

I have no idea who to vote for. Snipexe and Gancho haven't said that much, and while I did kind of agree with Alv about Gancho at first, after looking over his posts, I'm not all that suspicious of him. I could vote for Stick I guess...

Ninja'd because I can't figure out who to vote for. XD I'm just gonna post and then come back to this in a bit.

1 hour ago, Elandera said:

I have no hard feelings against the people who voted on me (despite what that first sentence in the post you quoted sounds like. I was tired). I understand voting based on a lack of read, as some elims appear more neutral than anything.

Good point about the soothed vote. Though I'm not sure where you're making the connection with the attack and me. Could you explain?

If the coinshot/mistborn is village, it would make sense to give the elims a Thug or Lurcher as protection(Thug especially as it can also protect against lynches), and since you're a thug, I'd be extra suspicious of you. But, on the other hand, if the elims have a coinshot/mistborn, then it's unlikely they'd also have a protection role since that would give them an extra attack and extra lives, so you'd most likely be village IMO.

46 minutes ago, Drake Marshall said:

Would you mind explaining the thought process here?

See explanation above.

12 hours ago, Elandera said:

 

Well, then. Thanks for trying to kill me after I went to sleep. 

As for your concerns that I am elim, I'm not sure where they've come from. My posts have mostly been joking, overdramatic, or flippant. 

I haven't had a lot of time to real analysis because things have been crazy at work (one day off in the last 8 days, 10-12 hour shifts). I should be sleeping now, but my stupid chickens decided to be more overdramatic than I am. Because of that, I decided to play a little more loosely with my style and have a bit more fun.

I expect at least one of the people who voted on me were elim, joining the bandwagon in hopes to secure another village death. I'll look at those later, but for now I need to get back to sleep. 

Edit: After a bit of review, I don't think the last couple of votes were elims after all. I can't quite call Itiah's vote self-preservation since many votes on them had been removed, but it was close to it. I'd just like to hear some reasoning behind the bandwagon.

Like I said, I wasn't crazy about putting a vote on you when you weren't around, but I felt like Itiah probably isn't an eliminator(still feel this way) and I didn't have a good feeling about you for whatever reason, so yeah. I think the reason I feel slightly suspicious about you is that I have better reads on most of the other active players and I haven't had similar feelings about your posts, so it's more that I don't see a good option so I was going with someone I was unsure of.

1 hour ago, Arraenae said:

 

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The point I'm trying to make with this is that it looks like nobody's defended Elandera much. She had one vote from Alv D1, and 4 votes on her D2 from Drake, Itiah, Oplen, and me. In that time, nobody has expressed trust for her or defended her. (If you're curious, players who have gotten trust or defenses are Cadcom, Bort, Drake, Itiah, Oplen, and Snip.) If Elandera was an elim, her teammates would probably have tried to sway the lynch off of her, which hasn't happened.

Now, Elandera is a thug, so it's possible that her team was willing to let her take the hit, or that the soothe was supposed to save her, so I'm only putting her as slightly village for now, but I think it's worth considering.

The song used was "Washington on Your Side" from Hamilton, if you want to find it. Watch out, there's some swears in there.

As a counter point to this, there's likely only 3 elims. If Elandera is an elim, and one of them is only semi-active, then it would be very risky for her teammates to try to rescue her from being lynched again, since it could end up connecting them. Also, the soothe could have been meant to protect Itiah, since I only moved my vote about an hour before the Cycle ended.

16 minutes ago, Araris Valerian said:

Okay, I'm back, and I've had a little time to think about things. Itiah's ploy seems like a village thing to do, although it would be kinda funny if an elim tried to exploit the rules to lead everyone on a wild goose chase. I agree with Rae and Drake's points about Elandera, especially since there wasn't a particularly good reason why Elandera was lynched last cycle, so it would have been easyish to draw attention to someone else.

On that note, I'm going to vote for TheMightyLopen. He's been lurking despite saying that in a QF players need to be more aggressive than normal. And with that, I'm probably out for the rest of the cycle.

Sorry about not posting before now, I've been busy all day. I checked in once or twice, so I guess you may have seen me online if that's what you meant about me lurking, but I haven't had the opportunity to post anything until now.

@Straw, are the write-ups going to show how players are attacked/killed, or is it all fluff?

I'm really not sure where I want to put my vote. If the coinshot/mistborn attack was from a villager, that would make Elandera more suspicious, but if they're elim, she's more likely village. I'm not particularly suspicious of her posts, but I also don't have any other leads I feel good about. :/ I'm gonna review things and then put a vote down.

Edit: Oh! I forgot to mention that Cadcom said if he was killed tonight, he put up a safety net to try and figure out who sent in the kill on him. I'm not sure how that would work, but Araris said he was supposed to give a name(Stick) to someone, sooooo I don't know what to think about that.

Urghgh, I'm really unsure about Itiah after that last post. It just reads as really genuine to me, so I'm gonna switch my vote to Elandera. I know she's not around to defend herself, so I'm not crazy about this, but I don't really like any other options.

Sorry for my lateness this cycle! I wasn't feeling very well earlier but I'm good now and ready to dive back in.

7 hours ago, Araris Valerian said:

We might want to look toward the inactive less active players this cycle, for two reasons. The elim kill wasn't sent in, which could mean one or more eliminators is inactive/low active. Also, everyone needs to participate this cycle. Because that's how we win the game. With that in mind, Snipexe, why didn't you vote last cycle? Your vote (and reasoning that leads to it) is the best way for us to get information about you.

@TheMightyLopen Could you elaborate more on why you think we should roleclaim? I'm opposed to that sort of thing for a couple of reasons, but I also haven't played a QF in a year or more, so I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts. My main reason against a game-wide role reveal is that I think it takes away from the game when people start trying to guess the role distribution of the elim team, and voting based on that, rather than trying to solve the game through discussion and votes.

I don't know that everyone should roleclaim, but I feel like a lot of times players are so wary of giving something away that they just don't say anything or try anything aggressive and that leads to them not having anyone to trust or on the other hand they don't catch someone saying something inconsistent or fishy. I feel like villagers are too passive when it's all up to them to make the eliminators trip up. Obviously the lynch is the main way of gathering information on players, but if there's more than one way to figure out players alignments, I say go for it even if you do end up getting yourself killed every now and then.  I think that's even more true in a QF, when the game goes really fast. The village needs to be extra aggressive imo.

4 hours ago, I think I am here. said:

I agree. I say we look for less active people this cycle, and start our suspicions from there. The slim might still not be active.

Also, we know Lopen didn't post last cycle, so could it be that he was one of the elims, and the reason he couldn't send in a kill was the same reason he didn't post?

The problem with this logic is that the other elims would have known Lopen was inactive so one of them would have sent in the kill, so to me, this kind of feels like you're reaching to explain the non elim kill to lynch a villager. Also, as Araris pointed out, you agreed with him but didn't place a vote immediately, which could be you trying not to draw attention or be a part of a mislynch. For those reasons, I'm voting Itiah.

2 hours ago, Gancho Libre said:

Rhawnie poked someone, then voted for Lopen

Is that how I do it? 

Yup, you got it.

Well, with the clarification from Straw, tied lynches are much less of a threat.

On to the lynch! Player list:

1. Araris (Aralis) - I kinda want to vote on him for his vote on Drake, because I'm in favor of roleclaiming and he's voting on Drake for roleclaiming, but Araris has always been like that about PM's, so I can't say I genuinely think he's evil.
2. Elandera (Ela) - Ehh, I don't agree with her saying don't trust anyone until there are undeniable facts proving their innocence. There has to be some level of trust or we won't get anything done. I kinda think she was just being over dramatic though, so I'm not sure if I'm suspicious of her because of that.
3. xinoehp512 (Demmanu) - Poke voted Bort. Also, Bort isn't the only player who hasn't posted. My doppelganger has yet to show up and confuse everyone.
4. LopenTheTwoArmedHerdazian (Lopen) - Like I said, hasn't shown up.
5. Arraenae (Para Dere) - No read. Although if Stick is evil, she might be village?
6. I think I am here (Itiah III) - RP only so far. Might also be a new player? Idk, I haven't been around much lately.
7. Snipexe (Snip) - Has a lack of thoughts. Tbh, sounds like a villager. XD
8. Devotary of Spontaneity (Leidene Larabeck) - No read yet.
9. Cadmium Compounder (Artin Aldenadel) - Slight village read. His approach of "what the heck let's see what happens" is similar to how I play as a villager.
10. Alvron (Vron) - Neutral. I should remove my vote before something bad happens.
11. Gancho Libre (Rhawnie Mackahoe) - Newbie and only one post, so neutral.
12. Bort (Joe Bourbon) - hasn't posted yet, so neutral...
13. TheMightyLopen (Oplen)
14. Drake Marshall (Jay) - I'm guessing village. So far he's roleclaimed already and also proposed we tried to do a multi-lynch, both aggressive moves. Feels like he's not too worried about appearances. He also voted on himself to force himself to find a place to vote later, which would be cornering himself a little bit as an eliminator because he wouldn't be able to slip unnoticed if there's a controversial lynch or something.
15. _Stick_ (Straw Stick) - Can't really get a good read on her. She's posted a decent amount of times, which is good, but I find myself slightly suspicious for whatever reason. I get the feeling from her opinions that they're honest, but in an "this is hurtful to my team but I'll say it anyways to appear village" kinda way. I might be overthinking it though.

Well, I don't really have any solid suspicions, so I guess I'll go with my hunch about Stick.

22 minutes ago, Drake Marshall said:

Hi.

Wow, posts are actually happening now. Gimme a sec to read 'em.

PM safety is good, yep. Although I kind of traded roles with somebody already. No regrets 

EDIT: Rae, your decision to communicate in parodies is beautiful.

Also, we can kill multiple people in one lynch?

To be honest, that sounds really useful to me.

Kind of pointless to do that on day 1 when we don't know enough, but later on when we have better leads, we should think about leveraging that rule to get more out of our lynches.

I'm not completely against multiple lynches, I actually really like the idea and have used that mechanic in both games I've run I think, but it is dangerous to try because of vote manipulation.

Normally I'd agree that claiming this early isn't a good idea, but this is a QF with possibly multiple kills happening every 24 hours, so I say better to make connections and try to figure out who's trying to figure stuff out than "waiting for more information."

4 minutes ago, _Stick_ said:

Why's that? 

If you don't know I'm not gonna tell you.  

It feels like I haven't played SE in a while...I'm excited!

I looked over the rules, and the only thing that really stuck out to me that I felt should be pointed out is that tied lynches result in multiple deaths(at least 2) and there is no minimum vote needed. If I was an eliminator, which I'm obviously not, I'd totally try to use that at some point to get multiple villagers killed. Especially if the elims have got some vote manipulation. So we need to be careful of that. Maybe try to always have a 3 vote lead on our lynches or something.

I'll vote on Alvron, since he was clearly in favor of confusing the village before the game even started! Nevermind that I felt the same way...

On 6/11/2018 at 6:13 PM, LopenTheTwoArmedHerdazian said:

I'll sign up as Lopen, a young and spritely man who says he's from the Central Dominance but has a peculiar accent.

Hmmm, it might be confusing if I sign up for this game. Which means I'm definitely signing up!

I'll be Oplen, a one-armed man who loves proving he's better than all the two-arms with his amazing acrobatics.

To make voting less confusing, please just don't vote for meuse my RP name instead of my username.

As the late Master Archivist, I think it's only right that I give my pass to the LG18/LG33 rerun! Looking forward to playing in this one, although I did enjoy co-GMing LG33 a ton.

Any idea when this will be run?

7 hours ago, Seonid said:

I was pretty sure that our discussion on Shu Dereth was being manipulated, and Lopen was actually my original suspect.

It seems I was suspected quite a lot this game. I'm not sure why, really.

It was very interesting seeing all of the behind-the-scenes stuff for this game. I was in on some of it, but there really was a lot of cool stuff going on besides the things I knew about. Well played Steel and Len, you guys were so close. And having both Lover pairs working with the Gyorn is something I did not see coming. Wilson had mentioned the fact that as a Lover she could win with the Gyorn, but I guess I didn't really consider the possibility of the Gyorn actually just straight up claiming to someone who wasn't technically part of his faction.

Speaking of which, sorry again for revealing you and Len were Lovers Wilson. Thankfully you weren't killed(very kind of you Walin), but I'll still be more careful in the future. Turns out I was correct to be worried about the low amounts of votes on Len, because he was gonna try to get me lynched, but still, I could've pushed the lynch using other reasons.

And to the Jeskeri, man, you guys really did have some bad luck this game. Part of it was the excellent scanning by Aman/Seonid, but still, the fact that Aman hit the one Jeskeri who had a Korathi Pendant with his Jeskeri Pendant was just rotten luck. Then the double protection of Wilson. That was pretty strange.

Anyways, great game to everyone, and a big thank you to all of the GM's! Great job with the write-ups every Cycle! I really enjoyed playing, and as an added bonus, I actually survived for the first time in a while! 

Edit: @Cadmium Compounder, looks like we both tried to Inspire Drought to vote for different people, which is why it failed. xD I tried to make him vote on Walin and you tried to make him vote on King Cole.