TheMightyLopen

5 hours ago, Dalinar Kholin said:

I've been developing a suspicion of my own for the past two cycles. Look at all the recent quotes from Devotary of Spontaneity.

Unfortunately, I'm not technically sophisticated, so I can't also get quotes from the past day cycle. Suffice to say, all of his recent posts have been technical. Either describing the rules, noting something that's happening, or answering questions. It's all been helpful. Now, being helpful is great, but it's also a good way to not get accused by anyone. After all, if you don't throw suspicions and accusations around, who would ever accuse you of being evil? It's the perfect way to be active yet still fly under the radar. Thoughts?

*Note, never played with Devotary before, so it could just be his play style. 

P.S. Sorry for the double post

I remember a few games back he was an eliminator and I was accusing him of the same exact thing. I can't really recall his games as a villager though, so it could just be his play style. I went and looked through his posts, and really couldn't form an opinion either way.

5 hours ago, TheYoungPyromancer said:

Lopen also over-focused on the Gyorn in our PM, and Aman is moderately suspicious of him.

@Orlok Tsubodai, read the PM I sent you.  I think you will like it 

As I mentioned in the thread, I was Gyorn hunting.  I'll likely focus on the Jeskeri during the Day and the Gyorn at Night. The only reason I was focusing on the Gyorn this last Day was because we'd already decided the lynch, so my accusations would've been toothless.

Maybe I'll message one of the Elantrians during the Day so he can explain his suspicion to me then. Unless you know his reasons for suspecting me? If you do, I can respond to them right now.

1 hour ago, little wilson said:

Okay. Since I'm bored and this night hasn't been very lively, I'm going to try to liven it up a little more. 

I think Lopen is a Cultist. In fact, I'm rather convinced of it.

Here is my case:

Loren tried to stay the bandwagon on Eternum, and when it shifted to Rand and multiple people voted with the clear reasoning that it was just a bandwagon vote with no real reasoning behind, Lopen still feel the need to put suck a detailed explanation. To me, this feels like he know Rand was going to flip village and he felt he needed to explain his middle-of-the-pack-perfect-place-for-an-eliminator vote so it wouldn't come back to bite him. Even though he'd wanted a bandwagon.

Feels too excited. Additionally, he'd the first to mention at this point that Aman targeted Araris. Everyone else before him had been wondering who Aman targeted. Now, the cultists aren't the only people who would've known that Aman likely targeted Araris, and I believe a village Lopen would've known as well, but this post feels like he's intentionally trying to ingratiate himself to the village by offering this information and clearly a Jeskeri would never do such a thing to their own teammate.

I've already mentioned this before, and while Lopen had said that he feels Len is village from it and wasn't trying to say anyone either way, I get a very strong misleading vibe from this post. The tone of it reads, to me, like "I know Len is village but I don't want others trusting him so I'm going to try to make people think that this comment makes Len more suspicious rather than less."

I dislike how he's saying we can trust most Jeskeri scans here. We started with about 3 Derethi pendants, which makes sense since the pendants directly correlate to the Derethi win con, so you don't want more pendants because things will be easier for the Derethi. Balance says a lower number. Korathi and Jeskeri, though, can be a little higher. I suspect that at least half of the Jeskeri have Korathi pendants. This explains why they weren't worried about Aman. They did not poison him (probably). But they also didn't attack him, which says that they do not view him as a threat, and that tells me that they have sufficient coverage to protect themselves from priest scans. So anyone saying that we can trust scans that show up as Jeskeri seem suspicious to me, since they could very easily be writing to get themselves and most of their team trusted while killing off villagers with Jeskeri pendants.

In terms of numbers, by the way, I think we have one or two more Jeskeri pendants than we have Jeskeri, for the exact reason Lopen pointed out: the pendants some kill Jeskeri. They kill villagers. And while the vigilante success rate is higher than the lynch success rate, it's still less than 40% last I checked. So the odds are high that villagers will be killing villagers and helping the Jeskeri out.

 

Maybe it's just me but I've never really liked jokes like this. They feel false, generally.

I hinted at this during the day when I said this probably wasn't the best idea (which Lopen conveniently just quoted), but to expand on that in the case on Lopen. As I said, it's not the best idea anyway, since eliminators defend villagers all the time, but it seems like the perfect way to get villagers trusting eliminators. He fits the group he's talking about. He admits he does. This makes him seem village, and I believe that's exactly why he did it. So he could seem village. But there's a difference between someone doing something to seem village and doing something because they are village, and it's that distinction that's important.

To sum up, most of Lopen's posts are either indicative of him having more knowledge than a regular villager should have (particularly knowledge about alignment) or they are geared to make him seem more village and get people trusting him/other players who likely aren't village. I will be voting for Lopen during the day.

Thoughts?

I kinda thought this might be coming...

My detailed explanation about my switch to Rand was slightly because I was worried he'd flip village and my vote would be scrutinized. You and Aman both wanted to lynch Rand, and I didn't think we'd get any other bandwagon to save Bort at that point since you both are very convincing in your accusations, so I voted for the player I thought was more likely to be an eliminator. That was the biggest reason I switched my vote. The reasoning I laid out afterwards was kind of me convincing myself it was worth it. If you'll go back to where I posted my reads, I believe I had Rand as slightly village, so I wasn't crazy about him as the target, but my D1 reads aren't all that accurate, so if 2 players whose abilities to catch eliminators I respect say they both suspect the same player by D1, and my vote can help save someone I strongly think is village, I'll go for it even if it might get me suspected if I'm wrong.

I don't think I can really say much about the post where I mention Aman targeted Araris. I can say that I was slightly suspicious of Araris and mentioned that about an hour before the Night ended, so when I got back online like, 15 minutes after the new Cycle was posted, I went back and saw that Aman had targeted Araris and that Araris hadn't died, hence my excitement. I'm not sure if this really contributed, but I PM'd Aman on D1 along with Pyro, Bort, and Kidpen, and Aman said he was considering using the Pendant on one of us, so I was also glad he hadn't decided to use it on me.

I think I mentioned that I think a decent amount of the Jeskeri are hidden from scans as well. The part that I'd disagree with is having more Jeskeri Pendants than Jeskeri. That, to me, seems like too much power for the village. I understand that they'd be helping the Jeskeri when they kill villagers, but if they were fairly accurate with them, it could end the game fairly fast, which hurts the Gyorn's chances. So because I don't think there are that many more Jeskeri Pendants out there, I think any scans that turn up Jeskeri are worth pursuing to some degree, which is why I mentioned that. I do think it's a fair point to be brought up though, and I could be convinced otherwise, considering we've already uncovered 2 Jeskeri Pendants and we're only at the 2nd Night. In my defense, I put it up to discussion, but no one responded to it until just now. It's not like it was an actual discussion and I was actively trying to convince people we should trust any Jeskeri scans. I thought that because people brought up Amans scans, we should discuss what we wanted to do if he got a scan showing Jeskeri.

I tried to keep discussion alive during the Day, but it seems like all of the things I brought up caused you to be even more suspicious of me. I was trying to prove to Aman I wasn't the Gyorn, and revealed my role to do it. I'm trying to remove myself as an obstacle to the village, which is something I think every villager should be trying to do. My philosophy of how to play is to 1. Try to find the opponents and 2. If you fail at that, at least remove yourself as a suspect so others can do number 1 easier.

1 hour ago, little wilson said:

 

To sum up, most of Lopen's posts are either indicative of him having more knowledge than a regular villager should have (particularly knowledge about alignment) or they are geared to make him seem more village and get people trusting him/other players who likely aren't village. I will be voting for Lopen during the day.

I feel like this is very tunnel-y to say. Stating your opinions about my posts like fact, rather than simply your opinion, and stating your vote for the next Day will be me, as if your mind can't be changed.

In response to Drake, putting a vote on Araris so early could have scared off any eliminators from trying to defend him. If I think there's a very high chance someone is an eliminator, better to just downplay my suspicion and see if the other eliminators will try and convince me otherwise than to state I'm certain someone is an eliminator and cause the other eliminators to bus them, which makes it harder to find future leads. In this particular case, I don't think it would matter either way, since it was very clear Araris was doomed, but it's just my general policy not to jump on a bandwagon immediately.

2 hours ago, Drake Marshall said:

I’m not saying I don’t believe you, but I just want to point out that (assuming I read the rules right) the same results could theoretically be produced using a pass-phrase.

That's true I guess. It would mean I had the secret passphrase and was working with the Prince who moved King Cole's vote.

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I'm....not sure that's a wise course of action, actually. Through Aman's comment alone about how obvious it was that Bort was village after he outed Aman to the thread and that the lynch needs to change, that's enough to get some villagers looking at Bort and judging him for themselves. At that point, the Jeskeri could easily have decided they'll kill him during the night and then they could say in the thread that he's village and try to move the lynch, looking like village when doing it. Therefore, looking at who were active proponents in saying Bort was village is not a surefire way to find villagers. But I would say it's a good way to trust an eliminator.

I'm not suggesting anyone completely trusts the players who defended Bort, but I do think it was more of a village thing to do, so any eliminators who gain some trust from it deserve it, IMO. I respect everyone in SE enough that one village-looking action isn't going to entirely persuade me they couldn't be a murderous Cultist.

17 minutes ago, Devotary of Spontaneity said:

Lopen voted for Araris in this post, and never retracted. Yet, Lopen's name does not appear in the vote tally. Do you know anything about this, @TheMightyLopen?

That it was a plan very poorly handled on my part. :/

I'm a Prince with a Seon. I PM'd Pyro and told him I was a Prince and was going to prove it this Cycle to help narrow down who the Gyorn could be. As I did 3 actions(Seon, Prince, and vote), according to Hero's clarification, my vote is the action that gets cancelled. I was hoping since the votes were a non-issue this Cycle no one would notice, but noooo, you guys have to point it out straightaway and try to figure it out, as if it's relevant.

Interesting to note, however, I was the only player to not have a vote down at the end of the Cycle. That's a weird feeling for me.

2 hours ago, little wilson said:

I suspect it was because he was mostly confirmed village to most villagers due to the interaction with Aman, and he was also very unlikely to be protected.

This is something worth analyzing. If anyone is having trouble figuring out what to do with the lynch being decided, go back over the Day 1 lynch, and look at who strongly defended Bort somehow. Post your thoughts on who you think is village based on the idea that: "The Jeskeri killed Bort because they knew that some villagers were convinced Bort was village, meaning it would be extremely difficult to get him lynched later in the game." Try to figure out who the "some villagers" are that convinced the Jeskeri to off Bort.

Honest talk here: I was one of the first players to create a counter-wagon so Bort would survive, and here I am saying that type of thing is a village indicator, which makes it look like I'm trying to convince you I'm village in a roundabout way. I wanted to put that out there so I don't get accused of doing something shady. (Also I am totally village )

39 minutes ago, STINK said:

I'm gonna drop the mint thing for this post, hopefully only this post.

If we're gonna have all of our PM people waste their stuff on Aman, doing a 'follow the cop' strategy. Could we please at least have the cop co-operate now instead of withholding stuff? Nothing's gonna make people not vote for Araris, clearly. Just accept cop status. Or have people not take you for a cop. Either one, but please don't do an in-between thing.

It's really only for this Cycle, since Amans scans can't be trusted as much as a Jeskeri Pendant use. And revealing a village scan puts that player in danger. I do think it's a little excessive how many Pms Aman has gotten, but hopefully that will also stop after this Turn so we can get more communication.

38 minutes ago, Kidpen said:

I still have a PM. If you have any suggestions, let me know.

Edit: Still looking for Monarch inheritance suggestions.

Whoever posted the most the previous Cycle? Trying to think of something more creative, but nothing's coming to mind...

30 minutes ago, Devotary of Spontaneity said:

All he's said so far is that the person he scanned was an unconverted citizen. He has not yet revealed the name.

Based on that description, it was probably me.

1 hour ago, Elenion said:

@TheYoungPyromancer @little wilson @Devotary of Spontaneity We've been so focused on Araris that we've forgotten Aman's other action. Could one (or all) of you ask him for his Priest scan results?

I was kind of assuming he scanned a villager/got a village result, but whatever his scan, I'm not sure how much we can trust it either way, considering we've already seen 2 Jeskeri Pendants, and if Araris is telling the truth about having a Korathi Pendant, that's 2 Korathi Pendants we're aware of(Randuir also had one). Although, since Araris probably has one, that does mean an elim scan is that much more likely to be an actual elim(because we've gotten rid of 2 Jeskeri Pendants, and a Jeskeri with a Korathi Pendant, meaning the chances of catching a Jeskeri with scans has only gone up since the game began...I think), in which case it probably would be a good idea for Aman to reveal any Jeskeri scans he gets. I feel like at least 1 or 2 Jeskeri are vulnerable to scans, but that there's still a 1 or 2 villagers who have a Jeskeri Pendant. That does seem like a lot of firepower for the village, although they can only kill villagers. I don't know, percentage wise, we've already uncovered 2 players with Jeskeri Pendants, so it seems like there should still be a couple out there.

I'm just going in circles now. xD I wanted to do more Gyorn hunting, but my brain isn't clear enough to do analysis I'd trust, so I'm heading off.

12 minutes ago, Araris Valerian said:

If you didn't catch from my RP, I was converted to Shu-Dereth by a Derethi Pendant.

I also take it from your RP that you're not the Odiv, which means that the only possible convert who could be the Odiv at this point is the one unknown convert(there's Araris, Elenion, an Elantrian, and mystery person).

Since we've still got almost 24 hours left, who wants to go Gyorn hunting? Or we could try and connect Araris to other people. Personally, looking for the Gyorn sounds funner to me at the moment, so I think that's what I'll do.

At this point, I don't have many ideas about how to narrow it down, but here's my current thoughts. The Gyorn doesn't want their converts to die, as that hurts their win con. I don't think they'd actively defend their converts so early, but I am curious to know who the 2 players who had the Shu-Dereth pendants were, because if they were in any danger of the lynch D1, the Gyorn may have tried to step in and prevent their death somehow(redirecting the lynch or semi-defending them). I doubt that's gonna give any leads, but I don't see the harm in the original pendant holders revealing? If not, I don't mind too much. Anyways, moving on. The Gyorn's first convert was an Elantrian. Aman has said he thinks he knows their strat, but I've got no idea what it could be. As others have said, converting Elantrians does make it less likely the converts will die, since we probably won't lynch them and the Cultists probably won't kill them, but it also doesn't give the Gyorn good options for an Odiv I wouldn't think. Wouldn't they want their Odiv to have the ability to convert anyone, not just Elantrians? Another thing I thought of is that we can remove those with roles as suspects(unless the Gyorn has secret powers similar to roles, which would make things annoying), meaning Aman and Kidpen are cleared of being the Gyorn. We can also eliminate all of the Elantrians as suspects, obviously. I wouldn't be surprised if the Gyorn had a pendant of some kind, otherwise they'd have no way to defend themselves from a lucky scan. A Seon also might be useful, to try and gather information to help them pick an Odiv, but I don't think it's as necessary as a pendant.

Hmm, something I just thought of - it's possible the Gyorn started with a Poison vial and poisoned themselves just now to help them avoid attention/suspicion, and they converted an Elantrian just now so they could make them their Odiv while they're in Elantris. Ehhh, not sure how likely I think that plan is. There's no guarantee a lot of people will become Elantrian, so their Odiv could potentially run out of players to convert if they can only target Elantrians. 

Okay, well, that's all from me for now. I'll probably revisit this and start looking over the player list to see who I might suspect later tonight.

3 hours ago, Elenion said:

Hold on, @TheMightyLopen why would Araris being an elim make me a suspect? I can't read him and other players suggested he was acting odd and I agreed, so I suggested to Aman to kill him. If anything that should make me a bit trusted, because my read was right and I helped catch an elim. (All contingent on Aman actually targeting Araris last night.)

Someone gave me a Derethi Pendant and it didn't show up, so that answers that.

2 hours ago, little wilson said:

Also, sorry for the double post, but since I feel this is additionally relevant and not as an edit and also I don't want discussion to stagnate with votes piled on Araris:

I feel that Elenion is more likely to be village (or at least non-Jeskeri) right now, since Aman gave an option to the thread about who to throw the pendant at. Len almost immediately answered with Araris. If he were Jeskeri, he wouldn't be throwing his own teammate under the bus. It wouldn't have hurt anything to mention someone else, and it would've kept his teammate in the clear for longer. Also wouldn't have really been suspicious to say Joe or Eternum either. Aman had no preference. Also, Len's post and Aman's edit were done at the same minute, so it's rather unlikely that Len saw Aman's edit and said Araris to gain village cred. Far more likely that they both just had the same idea at the same time.

Personally, I think it should be somewhat obvious that this indicates Len is more likely to be a villager, and I find it strange that Lopen almost seems to be trying to cast suspicion on Len for it. Ditto to Pyro for saying that he's more suspicious of Len. If I were going to vote on someone other than Araris right now, I'd probably vote on one of these two, though I'm not sure which. I really don't like the tone in Lopen's post there, but Pyro seemed very interested in figuring out who Aman threw the pendant at. Almost like a Jeskeri concerned for his teammate. Plus, he has a Seon and I believe the Jeskeri started with at least one Seon, if not two. I'm not advocating lynching based on item distribution, especially since we don't know all the original Seon-holders (nor do I advocate all the original Seon holders claim), but it is a consideration for me.

I was actually trying to phrase it in such a way where you couldn't tell what I thought about Len, but apparently it really didn't come out that way. To be clear, I agree with Wilson that it makes Len look more village for exactly the reasons she pointed out, but I was trying to get others thoughts on it to help discussion since we were kind of just waiting to hear confirmation from Aman about Araris and I didn't want my opinion to have any sway over the answers. Considering all 4 of Pyro, Dalinar, Len, and you thought I was saying I thought it was suspicious, looks like I failed.

Speaking of which, Araris. Nice work Aman.

I also agree with Len's assessment of Pyro. I would expect the Jeskeri to be watching last Night's thread very closely to see who was picked.

Edit: Here's my feelings on people right now. Elantrians are underlined.

Village: Wilson, Elenion, King Cole, Mraize, Walin(his opening post this Phase sounded village to me), Pyro, Dalinar, Aman
Can't tell: Straw, Joe, Imperial Mint, Seonid, Arinian, Devotary, Drake, Kidpen, Cadmium, Drought, Kynedath
Eliminator: Eternum, Steeldancer, HH

1 hour ago, Elenion said:

Araris. Eternum I can read, Joe somewhat, Araris never.

If Aman did use the Pendant on Araris, meaning Araris is Jeskeri, how does this post by Elenion make you all feel?

Wow! So this means Araris is a Cultist right? Aman said he was using it on Araris, and Araris is still alive. Aman posted at the very end of the Night Pyro.

And hey, maybe Aman will still survive for a while now that he's in Elantris, and so his power isn't as harmful to the Jeskeri!

Wow, this is one of the busiest Nights I've ever seen. I guess that happens when a scanner is revealed, who also has a kill/scan item...

Okay, so I looked over all of the vote changes when the lynch switched from Bort to Rand, and here are the changes:

Me, Wilson, Seonid, and Pyro switched from Eternum to Rand. HH switched from Badger to Rand, Straw and Araris simply removed their votes from Bort and Devotary switched from Bort to Rand. I feel like there's got to be at least one eliminator in this group, but not more than 2. As for which ones I think could be evil...that'll have to wait until after dinner sadly. Just in case I die, gut feeling reading over things were that HH and Araris were a little shady looking.

Yeah, that really sucks. Sorry about that Rand. :/

I'll take a look at all of the votes tomorrow and see what I can find.

No-votes is always stifling discussion. I say we lynch him!

Just for clarity, another updated vote tally:

(6) Bort: Elenion, Eternum, Araris Valerian, Randuir, Arinian, Kidpen

(7) randuir: Amanuensis, Seonid, Hemalurgic Headshot, little wilson, TheMightyLopen, TheYoungPyromancer, Devotary of Spontaneity

(1) The Honey Badger: Mraize, 

(1) Araris Valerian: A Joe in the Bush, 

(1) Straw: Stink, 

No-votes(7): Steeldancer, Straw, King Cole, Honey Badger, Drake Marshall, Bort, Dalinar

Elantrians(3): Cadmium, Droughtbringer, Kynedath

Rand, huh? I would really hate to be wrong, partly because he's usually so active and partly because I think the last game I played with him he was lynched C1 and I enjoy playing with him, but I do think Bort is more likely to be village than Rand at this point. Actually, the thing that I think is most suspicious about that post Aman quoted was the bit where Rand leaned village on Kidpen for that opening statement of "I'm an eliminator." Kidpen said they do that at the start of every game, so I was viewing it as completely neutral, and I don't see how it could be used as evidence why Kidpen is village, so it seems like buddying up. Eternum. Randuir.

Edited for Vote tally:

(7) Bort: Elenion, Eternum, Araris Valerian, Randuir, Arinian, Devotary of Spontaneity, Kidpen,

(1) Eternum: TheYoungPyromancer,

(1) The Honey Badger: Mraize, 

(1) Araris Valerian: A Joe in the Bush, 

(1) Straw: Stink, 

(5) randuir: Amanuensis, Seonid, Hemalurgic Headshot, little wilson, TheMightyLopen

Huh. I thought the Day was over [insert time when you actually finish your post]30 minutes ago, which is why I was so hurried. I'm back now though, and the lynch on Eternum actually seems to have gained momentum. Initially I was suspicious of him because he posted early on about the Joe/Kidpen claiming to be elims saying that we had stuff to talk about, but then didn't proceed to say what he thought about it or anything else(until a few hours ago, but I'm just now getting the time to read over what I missed in-depth). That's what my reasoning for voting him was. The other players voting on Bort I didn't have any read on or I had slight village reads on(but again, I haven't had time to look over the Bort lynch, so those might change).

Not much of a counterlynch.

Well I was mildly suspicious of Eternum, so I guess he's my best guess. eternum steeldancer

Just now, Kidpen said:

Gonna be totally honest. I think Bort and Aman are both elim. Gonna keep it on Bort.

The thought did cross my mind. It's a very risky ploy though.

I've got about 10 minutes to move my vote, so what's a good option? Also I'm on mobile so my posts will be slow and short.

4 hours ago, Mraize said:

"Well I hope the vendor didn't sell you a bad potion," Sahin said concerned. 

He watched as Ateshao's eyes behave oddly as if the man in front of him couldn't control them. His attention was slightly diverted as another brandy was placed before him. He picked up the mug and rose it in a late toast, then proceeded to gulp the sweet liquid down. He whipped his mouth on a sleeve.

"You know what I could go with is a duel. You duel?"

Probably not with the eye problem. Sahin winced. "Sorry I asked."

"Bartelemi, Arttesh, take a break for once. Relax! Have a beer." He directed to his voice. "What about you, sule? Another toast? To the king!" Sahin Arehe said, raising a third glass of brandy. He was glad that he could stomach his alcohol and the glasses were relatively small.

Can I be blamed? I want to get into my character, reveal stuff through that. This is my first, so I am kind of new to this... If I had to vote it would be Kidpen. Red is to your vote right? and green is to rescind a vote...?

@Kidpen, here is the post where Mraize voted for you.

And to answer Mraize, you are correct about the colors of voting.

2 hours ago, TheYoungPyromancer said:

I was neutral.  Also, I was cast under suspicion very quickly that game, so I am trying to do better.

Sure, I just thought it seemed like you were staying out of discussion for the most part and it made me think you might be trying to stay out of the spotlight, which is usually what eliminators are trying to do. In my opinion, I think villagers should worry more about catching eliminators than not getting lynched(although obviously it is a bummer when you get lynched ).

15 minutes ago, Elenion said:

Misread on my part. Reading it again it makes a lot more sense, lol. For some reason I thought you were advocating that each person with a Pendant uses it on a player that they think is village, and then attempts to keep that player alive. However, I still don't quite follow you when you say

Using the Pendant is a day action, and it only cancels votes made that Day, so how would you have a situation in which Player 1 uses it on Player 2, Player 2 gets up for lynch, and Player 1 wants to alert people that they are Pendanting Player 2? Player 1 shouldn't just say "hey, I'm Pendanting Player 2, so don't waste the lynch"--they should either cancel their action or make their case about why Player 2 should be trusted.

 

Humor edit: I drafted up a response post in the doc, if you want to use that. 

It only cancels votes made that Day? Huh, yep, you're right. Okay, I thought it canceled votes from converts from that point on, so nevermind then. It was mostly just me rambling anyways...

Well, I looked over all of the posts so far, and here are my initial feelings on everyone:

Hasn't posted: Wilson, Honey Badger, Dalinar
Elantrians: Kynedath, Cadmium, Drought
Mostly or only RP: Imperial Mint(STINK), Mraize
Neutral: Joe, Arinian, Araris, Elenion, Devotary, Bort, Kidpen, Aman, Seonid, Lopen
Slightly village: Straw(gut), King Cole(couldn't think of anything to say so didn't force something to appear village), Drake(can't remember), Randuir(gut), HH(only posted RP, but I feel like he'd have wanted to post game discussion to appear village if he was evil)
Slightly elim: Steeldancer(posted about getting the focus back on Jeskeri, but backed down once Joe responded, so it kind of felt like he was trying to get village points and didn't actually care if discussion turned to the Jeskeri), Eternum(posted once about having stuff to talk about and then doesn't talk anymore), Pyro(I kept up with LG43 a little, and he seemed more involved in discussion in that game than he is right now. Also, he's keeping his vote on Kidpen which I thought was more of a joke than a serious vote, which seems a little strange.)

I left it to RNG between my 3 suspects and it chose Steel. Along with the point I brought up above, I'd also like to hear what you meant about getting the Derethi to help you catch the Jeskeri. Given the village's win con is to kill Jeskeri and the Gyorn and Odiv, I don't see how you could recruit them(I guess a joint win is technically possible, but it would be practically impossible to pull off). Plus, I don't know how the Gyorn or Odiv could help the village...actually, if the Odiv was previously a Jeskeri, they could possibly help prolong the game by revealing a Jeskeri or 2 if the village is about to lose. But still, doesn't seem likely to happen.

Vote tally:

Kidpen(2): Pyro, Mraize
Araris(1): Joe
Seonid(1): Drake
Steel(1): Lopen

8 hours ago, Elenion said:

I'm not following you here. If the Derethi Converts aren't going to claim, then how are we going to know that they've been converted? And why would we want to help the convert survive? Converts can be Jeskeri just as much as they can be village, so lynching someone who had been Pendanted would be just like lynching them normally, except it pushes the Gyorn's win condition back a little bit.

 

I think that the Derethi Converts claiming is a good idea, so I'll go ahead and inform everyone that I am not currently a convert and I will inform everyone if I do become one.

I was suggesting the Derethi converts should claim. I was also suggesting we hold on to the Shu-Dereth pendants until someone we trust is converted and reveals that they were converted, and then use it on them so it helps them survive/gets rid of the Pendant without converting another player. I think you just misread my post?

1 hour ago, Straw said:

It’d be a good idea for the Monarch and all Seon owners to immediately designate heirs, thus minimizing the chance of Seons being lost. I would also discourage spreading around the passcode for the secret tunnels, due to the fact that it reduces the amount of information available to the village. I’m unsure about what to do with Jeskari pendants, but I definitely think that people with Shu-Dereth pendants should save them until later in the game. I would recommend that the Priest scan the person with the second-most amount of votes. Additionally, it’d be nice if everyone with a Seon made a PM with an Elantrian, thus allowing the village to get information from inside Elantris. For the Monarch’s inheritance, having it be a vote by the dead doc is probably the best idea.

Agreed about designating heirs. I'm not so sure about the Priest always scanning the second most voted player though. In a strongly contested lynch between 2 players, it might be worth it, but I don't think the second most voted player is consistently an eliminator enough to warrant a scan every Cycle.

It probably would be helpful to have a PM or 2 with Elantrians, but I don't think we need every PM to be made with an Elantrian, especially so early in the game when there's only 3 Elantrians and they're just as lost as us(maybe more ). I'd also like to get a PM, soooo...

Normally this is where I'd vote, but I don't see any good targets at the moment. I'll try to put a vote down later when I've got time to go over every post at once.