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I'm saying that in a stand up fight...one round decides winner...lifeless would probably have it...however...if I was a viscous warlord laying waste to and enemy ruler's kingdom...I'd have to go with Koloss. A. They're terrifying B. With villages to pillage they're self replenishing C. For maintenance they eat ash and crap VS don't eat anything but require ichor alcohol and surgery to get fixed when broken. I really didn't take the time to weigh the pros and cons very carefully...but I'm sticking by my guns.

At the shattering he spiritually lo jacked Odium and Ruin to keep tabs...no I seriously have no idea...but I can't wait to find out!

What up? Welcome to the forum! While I do agree that Odium is most certainly a very bad guy...however...I honestly feel that the situation you describe right before the Bwahahahaing may actually come to fruition. While it's not really referred to in the books we've seen so far, some Q&A with Brandon has seemed to indicate that there is someone(s) something(s), that was having it out with old adonalsium back in the day...and that mysterious something or other is still hanging around. Aside from the "force that opposed Adonalsium", we've still got quite a few shards to get through my friend...you never know if odium's only rolling around making trouble on other planets because some other shardholder is threatening to cut up his mother and feed her to axehounds (I don't honestly think that this is the case...but you see what I'm getting at I'm sure). As to "odium causes natural disasters"...maybe...but not specifically. I would say that "this is what happens when gods fight" is a little more accurate. I mean...at the end of Mistborn we get some perspective of Preservation and Ruin squabbling, which has some serious side effects for the landscape...but when they actually get into it and kill each other...nobody on the ground really seems to notice. Bear in mind that Devotion and/or Dominion were dead before the Reod actually happened...but this has already been addressed. I'm always wary to speak with too much certainty about what is coming up in the cosmere lest I end up with cosmic egg on my face...but that has never stopped me from wildly speculating about what I think or hope is on the horizon in the cosmere. Have lots of fun doing the same...and again welcome to the forum...have a complimentary upvote on me! P.S. Silence takes place on a relatively unimportant shardworld called Threnody...I don't believe there is actually a shard living there...but one may have visited a long time ago resulting in weird magic goings on.

OBSERVER What are the smoke-y spren that appear around a dead chasmfiend? BRANDON SANDERSON They are in a symbiotic relationship with the chasmfiend, and are part of what allow the creatures to grow to the size they do with an exoskeleton. (Along with a high-oxygen, lower-gravity world.) Well, we don't actually know what comes out of a chasmfiend pupa because, as you said, (in story) the ones we see are always killed before they finish pupating. It's been discussed that ALL greatshell organisms have some symbiotic relationship with spren...but we really don't know the specifics. We really get the most information about their lifecycle and biology when Shallan shows up on the plains and starts hanging out with Adolin. She postulates that they must live somewhere else and migrate to the plains specifically in order to pupate. I've often wondered if they end up moving on to the sea and becoming something like the walking isles... by the way...I can't believe no one has upvoted you yet (here's 2 for good measure)...welcome to the forum...have lots of fun postulating wildly and criticizing the opinions of your fellow Sanderson fans! Now I'm not super up on reading the most current Word of Brandon so there maybe something newer that I don't know about...but I'm pretty sure that this is the gist of things with chasmfiends.

While it's a grain of sand in the desert...upvote to Voidus for expressing my idea much more clearly and articulately...

Maybe Compounding copper and then restoring the resulting memory generates a coppermind that cannot be manipulated by Ruin...I think maybe Brandon gave us a hint there..."However, as I'm writing this, without being able to hide this text, I don't want to explain too much and inadvertently ruin something."

In the world of AoL era Scadrial being a steel burning, tin tapper would be pretty sick...those impossible long shots would become a lot easier all of a sudden..."sniper"?...too easy..."assassin"?...better...hhhmmmmm....

(I actually don't recall Rashek ever being referred to as a powerful feruchimest...but there is an excellent chance that I am mistaken) Anyway... This may be slightly off topic...but I've always been curious about how your natural potential impacts your ability to store a given quality and then tap it later. For example, it's easy to assume that someone who can easily bench press 300lbs will have an easier time storing strength. Even while storing 50% they can still easily put up 150lbs...which is better than a lot of people I know. Or...someone who is 5 years old can store youth much more efficiently than a 40 year old...because, obviously...they're younger...just like our first example is stronger. But does this apply to all feruchimal abilities? There are several other examples where the answer is an obvious yes...but what about the weird ones like speed. I know that some people are "faster" than others but that has to do with muscle strength, cardiovascular health, etc...and storing feruchimal speed dosen't seem to have anything to do with muscles, oxygen, or blood flow. Or luck...are some people luckier than others? Does is depend on just how lucky you are when start storing. Or even weight for that matter. If a really, really fat person stores a lot of weight for a long time and then loses a bunch of weight...is the quantity of weight in their iron mind based off of how much they weighed when they stored it? Or a converted ratio of percentages that corresponds to their current weight? i.e. I stored 50% of my weight for an hour when I weighed 300lbs and could then have tapped it to weigh 450% for an hour...instead...I kept it in a metal mind until I finished my diet...I now weigh 200lbs...can I tap it to become 350lbs for an hour or is it only good for 300lbs for an hour? I guess what I'm saying (in a very round about way) is that maybe all you need in order to be "a powerful feruchimest", is to be in great physical shape, with a really healthy immune system, always eat right, keep your mind razor sharp, have a great strength to weight ratio, have naturally great vision and hearing, be super charismatic, be really determined, and have a firm unflappable sense of identity...(I know there are others but you get the point) by the way...redsword gets an upvote for have math in the opening post...it's brave...

This was going to be my response...I know that Sazed mentions that you can't fill any other metalminds while sleeping aside from bronze...but I don't think that it says that you can't tap them. I mean...I can see the logic in not being able to make a conscious decision to do something while asleep...but like Kurk points out, mistborn and thugs can instinctively use their powers to keep them alive while sleeping...so why not a feruchemist. Also...even if you can't tap feruchimal powers while asleep...it's been made abundantly clear that you can burn while you're sleeping...so I guess if you had to, you could always just slowly burn an atium mind while sleeping...(would you have trippy dreams where you see the future of what you dream characters were going to do?...whoa...)...after all...you wouldn't need to maintain a constant age while asleep, just keep yourself from dying.

Stormlight spoilers: EDIT: I'm sorry...I just remembered that this thread has Scadrial in the title and is in Mistborn...my bad... I mean...compounding anything to the point where you become dependent on it could be potentially dangerous...electrum could be bad...constantly being super determined then turning into Eor when you stop compounding would be nasty...or could it be fatal. Miles compounds health to the point where stopping could be fatal...if you had been compounding determination for a long time and then quit, could you lose the will to live? I always thought that Iron was the best Feruchemal power because it is potentially beneficial either way...it's difficult to consider someone who would want to constantly go around weight several tons...but what would the result of stopping be at that point?...would you just float away unless you put weights in you shoes?...dunno...

Now...I'm terrible at looking up WoBs...but a while ago on the shard, I remember reading something about how the metal doesn't even have to be in your stomach to burn, just in your body. Also, I don't think that shaving or powdering is a requirement to make to metal allomantically viable, just easier to swallow. I believe that Wax keeps a steel button on his shirt to be "used as a weapon or fuel" should he need it. Swallowing Atium beads just supports this more. Maybe I'm not understanding the question well, but I think, definitely yes, however you go about swallowing metal would work just fine. Just don't choke...

"Sometimes when I'm drunk I forget what metal I'm burning...oh...there it is..."

This is a thread that has happened before...but let's be honest...do any of us EVER get tired of theorizing about which powers we would like to have? If my previous statement didn't make it obvious...I've put a lot of thought into this question...and also have several questions about how certain powers might work together. For instance... - If you can burn pewter, would it allow you to "hack" a lot of the feruchemical abilities...almost making a generic compounder? i.e. Burning pewter makes you heal faster, and allows you to ignore the discomfort of being injured or sick. So...could you constantly (being careful to avoid savantism) keep pewter on a low burn while constantly storing a small amount of health in gold? Result being that you never feel crappy but gradually store up healing? This could potentially apply to many of the other basic feruchemical metals...steel, pewter (without compounding), brass, bronze, zinc? Assuming that this works...A- pewter F- gold would be my go to. That aside...I've often wondered what you could do if you were A- pewter F-iron. I picture the world's best parkour runner, rock climber, ninja warrior....who incidentally would be a real pain in the butt to beat in a fight. A- steel and F-iron would obviously be awesome...but Brandon has already showed us what this looks like quite thoroughly.... I've also wondered a lot about something that bluepotion mentions...the possible advantages of A- bendalloy and really most other feruchemical powers. Most of them SEEM to have a correlation to time when referring to storing and using...theoretically...being able to burn bendalloy would just make it easier to store more faster...right? For that matter...now that I think of it...being a Pulser + Steelrunner would be potentially devastating...imagine being able to slow down everyone around you in relation to time outside...while tapping enough speed to offset the temporal drag for just you...obviously Slider + Steelrunner would just be unfair... P.S. Sorry for the word vomit...I love talking about this topic...

I agree with this as well...while I don't think it's canon...I always read Breeze's habitual and constant soothing of those around him, as well as his significant increase in power and control as symptoms of savantism. While I also can't quote it at the moment, there is something mentioned in mistborn about people accidentally becoming savants, without ever realizing it. Obviously the symptoms of being a savant would be different depending on what metal you can burn...or in the case of a mistborn...which metals you choose to constantly burn. While nerding out on friends, I've always used flowing water across a landscape as a metaphor for what happens when one becomes a savant. The water itself represents the amount of metal being burned...the physical path in the landscape that the water has eroded represents the aperture in you spirit web that allows you to burn the metal...and the size and weight of vessel that could float down the river as the benefit or power that you gain from burning a metal. In the beginning, you have only a creek that can support a kayak or canoe during an average burn (flow of water) but during a flood (flaring metal) a deep setting rowboat would have no trouble making it down without bottoming out. As more water flows down the creek over time, it slowly gets wider and deeper. The result is that more water CAN flow through it, hence forth being able to support larger and larger craft...but...more water is required in order to move ANYTHING down it. ie, the widest deepest river CAN have millions of gallons of water moving through per second...potentially supporting and ocean liner...but if the same amount of water is moving down that river as the creek we started with, it will be so shallow that a kayak or canoe is out of the question...a toy boat might be a challenge. I know it's not perfect...but...it's the best way i've figured out how to describe this phenomenon to someone who is allomantically uneducated. To get things back on thread...Spook is totally the coolest savant we definitely meet...but I would say that being a bronze savant would probably be awesome...

Thanks dude. You're awesome!

Also referencing Sixth of Dusk...it's mentioned that the visitors from above are not the only people hopping around in space...so I think it's reasonable to assume that even if other prime shardworlds don't get literally visited...we'll see people from other planets moving between the stars. P.S. I would totally put a jet pack on my space age shard plate...just sayin'

Yeah...I suck at finding WoBs...but I remember reading somewhere on the forum that Hoid was offered a shard, and refused to take it up...or something like that...

Yeah...but wouldn't the aluminum also mess with your ability to pull on stuff as well?

Slightly off topic...but since we're talking about Wax's powers...something that always bothered me in AoL, "Pull wears an armored plate to pull bullets toward his chest," what stopped Wax from increasing his weight and pasting the guy against a wall?

He sure doesn't look like a dragon...but I guess I've never met one in person...

So...off topic (I haven't been spending much time in shard for a while) how long have we known about Vax and where did this knowledge come from?

Could it be a horneater? Their pretty bearded and beastial...just a thought...

Boom. One more piece of the puzzle...something new to theorize about...and ultimately drive me just a little closer to cosmere based insanity...by the way have an upvote, you totally deserve it.

So...two things to mention from this conversation. I believe that there are numerous references to a second culture of people living on an island on scadrial...While speaking with Wax in Shadows Harmony even alludes to the fact that the second culture of people is considerably more tech advanced when talking about how he has made it too easy for the inhabitants of elendel. Second thing...While I agree that breeding and army of mistings, brainwashing them to be loyal, training them, and moving them to your purpose is not a very well thought out plan...if they have knowledge of hemalurgy, they could once again begin making inquisitors with all the powers of a mistborn. While this would open them up to Harmony's control...Harmony is really into letting people have free will...I think the only reason he takes direct control of the kandra is because that have a specific contract with them that they cannot operate outside of. Just and idea...

So...this is a little off topic but...It's always bugged me that everyone refers to domi (obviously dominion) as their god...but no one makes any mention of Devi that I've noticed. Is there already an answer to this that I just haven't seen on shard...ideas?