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Everybody who watches Cusicesh feels some sort of energy taken from them. Why would Cusicesh take energy if not to made Shards with it?

This is a blatant copy/paste from my post in the Radiants and Spren thread . A surgbinder that's taken 4/5 of the Radiant oaths goes to Cusicesh The Protector. Cusicesh takes "something away from them" and with that "4/5 radiant something" it makes that person's Shards and whispers the 5th oath (depending on their order, obviously) to them (or unlocks the part of their brain that holds the oath). As they take the oath the Shards appear.

Fine... you win (by just barely ) Unless one magically becomes encased in Shardplate at the moment they become a Radiant (which is still up in the air, since we haven't seen anyone become radiant), I can easily see a Radiant that doesn't have Shards. Just like Knights in our world don't magically become encased in steel the moment they're knighted. ...Well, I guess if part of becoming Radiant involves going out and magically obtaining your own special Shards... ooooo. New Theory. A surgbinder that's taken 4/5 of the Radiant oaths goes to Cusicesh The Protector. Cusicesh takes "something away from them" and with that "4/5 radiant something" it makes that person's Shards and whispers the 5th oath (depending on their order, obviously) to them (or unlocks the part of their brain that holds the oath). As they take the oath the Shards appear.

Yep. The body and power of a Shard are one and the same. I'm almost positive that it says that in one of Sazed's epigraphs.

ooooooooooooooooooo. interesting.

They were? I know that at least most knights back in the day had sword and armor, but I don't think it was necessary. And even if it was necessary, it isn't anymore. When thinking of a radiant we think of a surgebinder with full shards, not somebody like Szeth (him getting his powers from somehow else is only applicable if radiant powers are somehow connected to their shards, which I don't believe is so because Kaladin's on the path of radiant-ness and he uses his powers without shards [way too long parenthesis]). When thinking of a knight we think of the "knight in shining armor", not the Beetles, even though both are images of knights.

I generally accept that interpretation . I'mm pretty sure that the stormlight comes during that brief period of darkness... with the face (I'd have to search for it on my kindle, which i don't want to do).

Then how do Shin die? Supposedly there's no Spren in the Valley of Truth. (That question's just there to make you think. There's a few answers that have already popped into my head that can make what you believe correct.) I think spren are just attracted to things and that Syl was irrationally fighting off the deathspren, trying to do something for Kaladin when she really could do nothing. Of course, since the spren are actually "beings" they might be able to make things stronger (eg a small gust gets turned into a not-so-small gust), I just don't think they're "awesome enough" to cause things. fyfr it is very, very hard for me to actually write my opinions as opinions instead of fact, so every fact I give should be accompanied with a grain of salt.

"Do [rotspren] cause [infection], or are they attracted to it?"

I'm sorry about bringing back a mostly dead topic, but I was really hoping SOMEONE would comment on my above post. I think that I'm at least mostly right but I would like other opinions.

When did it become known to us that Spren are of the cognitive realm? I've been under the assumption that they're of the spiritual.

This does seem to imply that they can make spikes to, as he doesn't apply qualifiers here. I'm not sure how much it has to do with a soul, as it has to do with a spiritual aspect, which is something everything in the Cosmere has. All matters of that realm are murky at this time, so all we can do is speculate. From how Brandon uses the phrase "using hemalurgy", I kind of have a feeling that it's getting spiked, not getting robbed. An inquisitor is a hemalurgist because of all their spikes, and then from the quote I posted To use hemalurgy, one must take power/attributes from somebody with the correct codes first. In the end, I'm almost positive that BS means that animals can get given things, not that things can get stolen from them. I did have a thought though when I first posted the quote... maybe if you're given a spike, that will then count as having the right codes so that other things can get taken (I don't think that's very plausible though ).

I fixed it

It's genetic in that one has to be descended from the first Scadrial people . EDIT: I meant to have "...to get stolen from" at the end.

How about we just say that if Miles won, a smaller amount of people would have been able to make their own choices . That lets Sazed help Wax without helping the bad guy (and I don't think Sazed would have been able to fool himself into believing that he was helping Miles with visions when he really wasn't ).

Woah Woah Woah!! Miles might have had gold spikes in him so that they wouldn't get thrown away from him, but that doesn't mean he was hemalurgically spiked, unless I missed something (like a BS quote).

Let people answer in the thread you created.

It's always possible that he was the holder of Adonalsium at one point (although I don't think it's likely) and Adonalsium is currently shattered, so I don't think it's possible for him to currently hold it (although there's a chance that the "element" has something to do with gluing Adonalsium back together and if Hoid did write the letter then I guess one could think of Hoid holding Adonalsium if he currently is holding the means to put Adonalsium back together). EDIT: DON'T pull a thread off topic when you have already created a different thread about the new topic

I don't really have very good ideas of why the body comes back when the Shard dies, but we do know that when the person is a Shard their "body" is power (mistborn 3 epigraphs, I believe). And we do know that one's spiritweb influences the "form" their body takes. We can see this easily with koloss. physically all that's changed is a couple spikes in their bodies, spiritually we see parts of spiritwebs of other people attached and the result of that is physical mutation (and cognitively they're stupider). So from that what I was saying is I'd imagine that most or all of the spiritweb is rewritten to make so drastic a change as having the body (as in, where the person in "based". I'd say people are based in the physical realm and we have strong cognitive and spiritual aspects (or maybe medium spiritual aspects unless the person uses magic), but that really doesn't matter that much here... I just wanted to say that I mean something else than "their body is turned into power, therefore if they're a bigger person, they'll have more power as a Shard". That would false.) reside in the spiritual realm (since power like that isn't in the physical realm and I don't really see why it would be in the cognitive realm [although holding the Shard does mutate the cognitive aspect of a person too, since they have perfect (or nearly-perfect) memory at the least]). I failed to include a physical aspect and that's because I don't have any idea what their physical aspect would be. Yes, when they die their physical body appears but while they're alive their physical body isn't sitting in a room with the other shard's bodies having tea... I don't have any good idea of what their physical aspect might be, but I'd imagine that they'd have a physical aspect. EDIT: I guess the physical aspect would be Shardpools/THE-mists/god-metals/...?

I'd imagine that picking up a Shard completely rewrites most of one's spiritweb. All except for the part that includes your personality and memories (if the spiritweb has anything to do with either of those). Then there's prolly a backup encoded in the new spiritweb that has all of the old spiritweb for if the person somehow manages to get rid of the Shard without dying.

Every shardblade makes it's bearer a lighteyes automatically.

I don't know... he might have been meaning push things away instead of get pushed away, but that is pretty solid evidence.

I love for other people to do my work for me (as in, find proof for my arguments . It's so much more funner for me to argue than research)

And someone asked Brandon if Shallan has what he thinks she has and Brandon said yes. Or something close to that. It was a little more clear. (It was only asked like that because of listening ears, spoilers are a no-no ) I'll see if I can find it.

It seems to me that the power that fuels allomancy is the same as the power that fuels preservation, not preservation's power (which is in fact his body). Just the way the allomancer gets the power is filtered through Preservation's "intent". Doesn't it all come from the "Power of Creation", it's just filtered a different way depending on the shard/magic? I was thinking and I decided that the shard is unwilling to power whatever magic directly because they have their allotted power from the power of creation and if they use that power in an expendable way (by say.... powering something else that's normally powered by the power of creation) it takes forever to regenerate. Ok, the important part was in the parenthesis so I'm just gonna strike through everything else. Oooo. That thought process just brought me to... Can the shards power each other? It'd take forever and a half to regenerate their power, so they would be "unwilling to do" it, but can it be done? All the good shards could get together and be like "Odium's bad news. We need to do something." "Hey, you could all power me, and because... I'm honorable(too bad Honor's dead )... you know I won't take advantage of you guys in your weakened state, but I will be able to take advantage of Odium being waaaay weaker than me (unless, of course, he's one the stupid honorable people)." Sorry. I went off topic .