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Well that's an interesting WoB. I hadn't seen that one. Fair enough.

Right now we still have an uneasy balance of power and seem to mostly be united against the Kandra. If we use the spiking plan, we give way too much power to one side of this. Not a viable option. We are only a coalition as long as power is somewhat even.

I can't help but think that something about Kandra and Koloss might keep Allomantic or Feruchemical spikes from working on them. I know there is no statement directly saying they CAN'T be spiked further, but we've never seen them given more. And think about it. Why wouldn't either The Lord Ruler or the Inquisitors under Ruin make their Koloss army better once they had maxed themselves out with additional spikes? Beyond most other things, Ruin is terribly efficient. If he could make them better killing machines, he would have.

That is one thing I think everyone on these forums can agree on.

I was starting with the premise of the theory that he did answer this one question, then posited two possibilities as to WHY he answered the question. I guess I had a very different idea of what not being good at seeing the future meant than most readers. To me, this meant that he got flashes of clear images, but not in any sane or controlled way. The further he looked, the more disjointed these images got. Each was still clear, but more and more context was missing. It seems that most other readers have interpreted not being good at seeing the future as it getting generally blurry until it couldn't be read at all. My theory was based on my own interpretation of dwindling future-sight and the premise that this question of Dalinar's was one such "moment of clarity", albeit absent any real context. Basically I was asking if people believed that Honour had any context about Sadeas or not. Clearly however, this interpretation is not shared by most of the community.

What you're talking about is called a jukebox musical (taking existing songs and adding a story in a musical format). It is hardly a new idea, having really taken off with Mama Mia. Below is a small rant I couldn't help myself from making. I'm a musical theatre actor and really hate jukebox musicals. Please ignore this rant. It is not intended in any way as a condemnation of your project, only a condemnation of the genre itself.

Use a Bendalloy bubble to finish the last chapter of your book before your lunch break runs out. Lash one corner of a poster to the wall to check if it's crooked. Contract a Kandra to eat you after you die just to sit up and freak everyone out at your open casket funeral. Using a Cadmium bubble over the stands to turn tortoise races into a spectator sport. Store the memory of reading Words of Radiance in a Coppermind because it was so good that you want to read it again right away and not have spoilers.

To be clear, I did not present Splitting as a canonical term. Splitting was my term and a way to differentiate my argument from Splintering, which seems to be something else entirely.

I like the theory. Definitely possible. However I'm not sure it's the "big hint" that we've been looking for. Seems too undefinable and esoteric to be what Sanderson describes as a big hint. It requires 3 different leaps of possibility: 1) that Aon Rao is the misinterpreted one and Essence isn't just being used as a synonym 2) that Aon Rao works by lowering the barriers of the Cognitive realm 3) that any such bridge would be two-way I rather doubt that something requiring 3 unprovable leaps like this would be constituted as a "big hint". As a theory in its own right however, I really like it though. It makes a lot of sense and is clearly well thought out and well reasoned.

When you instinctively mistrust anyone with piercings because they might be hemalurgic spikes. When you catch your wolfhound eating bad meat out of the trash and just for a second wonder how cool it would be if your dog got replaced by a Kandra. When you have used Warbreaker as an example in an Economics class discussion on non-monetary based economies.

I think the Minecraft is a bit too contrived and would end up only really played by people who are already fans. However I think you might really be on to something with a Rithmatist tablet game. It's definitely simple enough that it would work great for tablet programming, the idea of drawing is already inherent in a touchscreen medium, and it is a cool enough idea it is likely to expand the fanbase. I really hope someone can program this. I'd play.

That was pretty amazing. "It's for your own good! It's for your own good!"

Exactly. This is pure speculation by the way. I have no evidence to back it up. Just raising an interesting possibility that perhaps Dalinar's conclusion that it was all completely random might not have been entirely correct.

The article I was reading was a very different article. This one doesn't even mention the dates or temperatures I was seeing. Oh well. Somewhere along the road I was basing this conjecture on faulty data it seems.

I'm glad there is an answer somewhere on this one. This question has been bugging me since the first time I read Mistborn. Although this answer is little better than a RAFO, it shows that at least there is one.

I don't think he has a piece of preservation. His Cognitive Shadow isn't due to anything physically or mystically significant about him. He wasn't physically or mystically significant. His Cognitive Shadow remains because it is worshipped. Because it is so important and defined by so many people on Scadrial, he doesn't move on to whatever afterlife there is in the Cosmere. This doesn't necessarily give him any powers at all.

The wikipedia article was updated 14 days ago. It's a rather drastic change from the article I was basing my assertions on. I'll post a response when I have gone through the new article. EDIT: Yeah, we need to do some primary source research. This article is COMPLETELY different from the one that was up 14 days ago. All the dates are different, as is the complete history of the metal's discovery and method of production and refinement. It may as well be talking about something entirely different. GRRARRAGH! I hate it when this happens with wikipedia. You never know which article is the one you can trust, the old one or the replacement.

Hmmm. Good question. That could be a solution as long as just a bit of the pewter coating was left on the outside, since it has to touch the blood. There is actually no real guarantee that hemalurgy requires the same metallurgic precision as Allomancy does. Note that it is extremely unlikely that sword that pierced Spook would have the exact percentage of carbon required for hemalurgy. Such precision is difficult enough to achieve when the creator is aware that it is important he is precise, let alone by whatever random steelsmith made the batch for that sword. It clearly wasn't created with intentional allomantic precision, since such metal would almost certainly be more expensive and would not be used for a base purpose like creating a sword. So perhaps the requirements for hemalurgy are less precise (or even just have different composition requirements) than those for Allomancy.

Thank you all. These are great. I'm currently trying to write my own game system for Mistborn. MAG just doesn't do it for me, a bit too vague and abstracted for my liking, though I have greatly enjoyed the flavour and have bought both the Core Book and the Terris supplement. Will probably also buy the AoL supplement next paycheck. Anyway, I got stuck on what to do for Cadmium (most of the system is based on maneuvers for each metal). Your posts have helped a great deal.

Chromium was first IDENTIFIED in 1854, but not correctly produced in its pure form. Thermite was first used to do so in 1898 by Goldschmidt. The issue here is the ability to refine pure Chromium, which is needed for allomancy. Most uses of Chromium in our world do not require the pure metal. The reason I say they don't have Thermite is because aluminum is still considered extremely rare and expensive. Thermite uses up valuable aluminum. It isn't until widespread use of electricity that aluminum becomes simple to refine, and thus thermite becomes viable. Even if they had the theory of it correct in AoL, no one is wasting the amount of aluminum necessary for the process on an unfounded experiment with no concrete benefits in mind. As to your assertion that the electrical furnaces described in Miles' lair would suffice, even most modern induction furnaces cannot reach beyond 1800 degrees Celsius and the same goes for the early industrial models of the Electric Arc Furnace c. 1907 (though modern laboratory Electric Arc Furnaces can reach up to 3000 degrees Celsius). But all of this is really moot as we have found the WoB that confirms the state of Chromium and Nicrosil in AoL and it was posted earlier in this topic. Read above and on page 1. I think it's pretty clear that while the top level scientists of Elendel University might know something about the Allomantic potential of Chromium (I really doubt Nicrosil though, but it follows that they at least know Chromium HAS an allomantic alloy), it's pretty much theoretical. We've already established the extreme difficulty and expense (if not impossibility) to produce pure Chromium with the level of technology present in AoL. Even those of you disagreeing with my assertion seem to accept this is a difficult, dangerous, and expensive process, whatever the means. Now take into account the difficulty of FINDING a Leecher when no one is burning Chromium. How would they possibly go about it? They could never test their theories. Maybe if there were still Mistborn who could burn all metals, they could justify a test of their expensive new compound, but imagine trying to find a Leecher when there has never been one recorded before, then justifying to whatever funding committee backs the metallurgic research department of the university that you want to take this incredibly expensive (not to mention rather poisonous) new metal and feed it to a set of random people in the vague hope that one of them might be able to burn it? It's just not a viable experiment to run until Chromium is cheap enough to produce that it comes into wider use by the population. Once that happens, Seekers can be set to finding people unconsciously burning this new metal from trace elements (perhaps one of the reasons Chromium will be proposed for use in antioxidation on silverware on Scadrial).

Because the technology to contain that kind of heat does not exist at this technological level. 19th century style furnaces and forges were never made to withstand that heat, because quite simply, they didn't have to. The highest temperature that ever had to be reached for anything they were doing was around 1500 degrees Celsius, so they made their forges with that specification in mind.

I'm not contending that the visions aren't recorded. That is abundantly clear. What I'm suggesting is that "not being good at seeing the future" doesn't mean that the future is vague and blurry, but that Honour sees only small certain moments of it, probably randomly, but in full clarity. I contend that that question of Dalinar's is one of those few moments he saw and, being Honour, even not knowing any of the context would always answer "yes" to a question of whether or not to trust.

I personally think Marsh will end up as a worldhopper, but that's just me...

You're going about it the wrong way. There's a power you missed and it's rather simple to get. You need to start on Nalthis and begin this process with a Returned. Then go through the rest of the steps mentioned, granting the Allomancy and Feruchemy by means of either Lerasium (if possible) or Hemalurgic Spikes. You also missed getting him trained in Forgery while on Sel.