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It isn't the investiture that allows them to stay longer, but rather the intricacy of their spirit web. This why, while Mistborn aren't really any more invested than a regular human (if they aren't a savant), they still stay around longer. They have connections in the spirit web that normal humans don't, which makes it more difficult for the beyond to pull their spirit away.Edit: While my above statement is true, investiture running through their spirit web also bolsters it and allows them to stay longer, so investiture does have an effect on that. People from major shardworlds probably do stay around a bit longer, but it isn't just instant for all minor shardworlders.

I'll just dump more WoBs for you then.INTERVIEW: Sep 22nd, 2012 Orem Signing Report - Zas (Verbatim) ZAS So you talk about the residue a Shard leaves on a sliver. So what does that residue have? Like what does it do? If anything? BRANDON SANDERSON Well, one thing it can do is that people capable of noticing Investiture, would know there is a trace of investiture from that event. TAGS shards, slivers, investiture, This implies that holding a shard leaves someone invested INTERVIEW: Sep, 2012 Cosmere Q&A - 17th Shard (Verbatim) CHAOS Is there a Cosmere-specific term you use to describe, say, a Shard's power inside someone? For example, people on Scadrial had little bits of Preservation in them that made them sentient (and, with enough Preservation, Allomancy). This obviously doesn't make these people Slivers or Splinters, so I was just wondering if you had a word for it. BRANDON SANDERSON In my own terms, I refer to all of this as types of investiture. The degree, and effects, can be very different - but those people are invested. I term this Innate Investiture, and it is similar to what happens with people on Nalthis. That is also innate. TAGS shards, investiture, breath, warbreaker, mistborn, allomancy, preservation, cosmere, innate investiture, Here he indirectly calls investiture the powers of a shard. INTERVIEW: Nov 6th, 2012 Weller Book Works Signing - Josh & Mi'ch (Verbatim) QUESTION Can Odium pick up pieces of a Shard without changing the nature of his Shard? BRANDON SANDERSON Any investiture, over time, will slowly change one’s personality, no matter how small that investiture. TAGS investiture, odium, shards Here he calls shards investiture. INTERVIEW: Sep 4th, 2014 Salt Lake City Comic-Con 2014 (Verbatim) QUESTION And all the different powers kind of run off the same type of power? Like Breath is the same as Stormlight? BRANDON SANDERSON Yeees, they have their own different sort of layers to them. It depends on the Shard that is there and things like that but yes there are little differences but it is more like the differences between alternating current and direct current, they're both electricity. So if you know how to use them. QUESTION 'Cause Szeth's not going to be getting any new Breaths on Roshar so I was thinking about that. TAGS investiture, Here he says that all magics basicly run off of the same power, and Breath, we know for a fact, is investiture so that is proof that all magic systems run off of investiture, even if you disregard my earlier quote where he straight up calls Stormlight investiture. INTERVIEW: Mar 21st, 2014 WOR Signing Table Q&A (Verbatim) QUESTION I know that there's three sorts of forms that magic presents itself in, the liquid and the solid and air. What would Breath be? BRANDON SANDERSON Breath is definitely like Mist, it is in the form of the air. QUESTION And is Stormlight the same? BRANDON SANDERSON Stormlight is the same. Good questions! QUESTION Would Vasher be able to use Stormlight in the same way that he can get Breath? BRANDON SANDERSON That would not be immediately easy, but Stormlight could feed Nightblood. QUESTION Which is why Szeth can wield Nightblood? BRANDON SANDERSON Eh, you'll have to see if … but yes. That could theoretically happen. You can use most of the magics on most of the planets to fuel the other magics, if you know how to do it, it is not easy. TAGS physical state, investiture, nightblood, stormlight More proof that the mists are made out of investiture.

INTERVIEW: Mar 4th, 2014 WoR Signing Report - Leinton (Paraphrased) LEINTON Would Returned still Return if Endowment died? BRANDON SANDERSON Magic in the cosmere needs a guiding force. If it doesn't have one, the magic itself will gain sentience. Or someone would pick it up. So yes, Returned would still come, but there would be something different based on who was guiding the power. TAGS returned, endowment, investiture,

In Secret History we are introduced to the idea that the more connected or 'in tune' you are with a shard the more control you have over its powers. My idea is that Rayse, being such a good match with Odium, has more control, and thus better ability with his shard than the others and this is part of why he is able to take shards down by himself in the way that he does. Relevant quote: INTERVIEW: Mar 5th, 2014 WoR Signing Report - ericth (Paraphrased) ERICTH What is Odium's edge. Vin and Ati killed each other but Rayse has downed 3 shards and survived. Was it skill, ability, numbers or possibly un-dispersed power? BRANDON SANDERSON Some combination of the above. TAGS odium, shards, This is why I think it is only a piece of why he is able to do what he does, although I think this is a part of it.

This would help the theory that Hoid is trying to piece back to get her Adonalsium.

I will also counter argue in the order in which you responded: 1. First off, that quote you refer too, to me it is obvious that Brandon miss heard the person as if he asked about the term 'invested'. His sentances don't really work or go along with what he has said about investiture up to this point if he didn't mishear. Talking about shardblades and using the term invested doesn't really fit the flow of conversation. I can't prove this however, so don't consider it part of my arguement, it just seems weird to me. I think you are misinformed, because we do know that investiture powers magic. I'll just dump quotes bellow. INTERVIEW: Mar 4th, 2014 WoR Signing Report - Talenelat (Verbatim) QUESTION What you can tell me about Investiture? BRANDON SANDERSON That is the word for someone or something which has gained a portion of the magic of Adonalsium, so the original whatever-it-is. Like a Shardblade is an Invested object, and people if they draw in the Stormlight, they're drawing in the magic-they're Invested. This quote is important for two reasons. It refers to Spren as Invested objects, proving that they are investiture, not 'Pieces of the Power of Creation'. Second, it tells us that Stormlight is the magic they are drawing in. This is important for this next quote. INTERVIEW: Oct 5th, 2013 Steelheart Signing Report - Argent (Paraphrased) QUESTION What is Stormlight? BRANDON SANDERSON I don't want to answer this, but I'll just say "Investiture." This proves it. There are a few other pretty much identical WoB in the database. Couple this with the fact that you can fuel all magic systems with each others form of investiture (although it is difficult) and it pretty much disproves your theory. As for the quote from when I spoke with Brandon, I think you took the bolder section a bit out of context there. He was backing up on the statement that Mistborn were not invested. He saying is that they are invested due to using the magic system (Savantism), but that that investiture isn't what really makes them stay any longer (although it does slightly). It is the different connectins in the spiritual realm that a person gains from being a Mistborn that allows them to stay longer. In that quote he even says that calls the usage of magic 'active investiture'. If you would argue that he is referring to the investiture that allows the harnessing of the Powers of Creation, then I would counter that this is another example of those two things acting the exact same. Using the Powers of Creation makes you stay longer, but so would Savantism, which is being more heavily invested. In the same breath as the above quote he even refers to actively burning metals being similarly disrupting to investiture as wearing shardplate (an invested object). 2. This quote is something I don't have a counter for. I just want to point of that in light of my above proof Brandon is contradicting himself by saying that the powers of Adonalsium are not investiture, because he refers to Spren as a piece of the Adonalsium, but we know they are investiture. Also, if you want to argue that spren are only investiture when in Shardblade form, then how would they change back? You speak of the powers not being able to convert back from investiture but this is a clear example of that happening if you are correct. 3. I think I've already accidentally covered this . 4. Universal constants are natural forces of nature, like gravity and the laws of thermodynamics. I was relating that to the Cosmere. As for your arguements, I covered that in section 2. 5. I agree that it has thematic appeal, but with what we know this notion would be false.

He has already confirmed that it is a system art in place, and that it would even operate if Endowment was splintered.

Im not possitive, but I've always had the impression that there is a shardpool in the pits

I suspect that ranged soulcasting comes as a perk for speaking a later oath. It may also be because she is a Elsecaller, their Soulcasting will most likely work differently than a Lightweavers. Khriss alluded to the fact that surges act profoundly different for different orders.

This theory is interesting, but I believe it is false. My main arguement is that Investiture acts the exact same as this 'Power of Creation'. In your Analysis, you point out that Brandon has said that different magics are ways that mortals can harness the powers of creation. You then go on to say that when Vin uses the mists to fuel her Allomancy that she is then fueling herself with the powers of creation themselves. What is the difference between normally burning metals and using the mists? With the latter you are cutting out the middle man. Instead of using metal to key into investiture, you are simply getting investiture itself. How do these examples prove your point? They don't. We know FOR A FACT that investiture powers magic. Brandon has said this on numerous occasions. This in and of itself proves that Brandon simply uses the original investiture of the universe and Powers of Creation as synonyms, because the original investiture of the uninverse was as the power that created it. Brandon himself explained to me that even small amounts of investiture In another portion, you explain how Adonalsium gained sentience. If Adonalsium gained sentience because he was composed of the powers of creation, then how can you explain that large amounts of investiture do the same? The best example of a consciousness that we know for a fact is made completely out of investiture is Nightblood. I propose that all investiture, no matter the amount does this. This is what spren, Seons, and Skaize all are. I would also like to point out that Cognitive Shadows are made purely out of investiture, and are still sentient. They can even bond things like the above examples can. I also don't get your explaination for how Adonalsium must have created the he transcends the three realms. First off, you refer to Adonalsium being investiture by using that word in your proof, and thus contradict yourself. Second, just because something exists outside of something else doesn't prove that the former predates the latter. You could be right, but there is no proof. I suspect that Adonalsium simply began creating in the three realms, and that both the three realms and Adonalsium are Cosmereversal constants. Again, in regaurds to Slinters being different from investiture, I point to my example of Nightblood. For your point about Shards eventually not existing, Brandon has said that once investiture is used by magic users, the power is recycled back into a shard. I'm pretty sure (not positive, but highly likely) that Brandon has said the same about the spark of life, the investiture that composes a person's soul. This also further disproves the notion that the Powers of Creation are seperate. Overall, your theory was well put together and had good research, but I think that it is too contradictory to facts that we have.

I'm just going to throw this out there, part of being a psychopath is having a very strong survival instinct. They tend to do anything it takes to survive in life threatening situations. It also fits in the whole 'Survivor' persona of his.

How a Shardblade works is it destroys damages the soul itself due to the massive amounts of investiture it has. When Nightblood cuts, it is invested enough to simply destroy all three realms. It's damages like a Shardblade, but just hits harder. So if this was a Shardblade, it would have completely destroyed essential parts of Elend's soul, which would have probably killed him. Brandon has confirmed that all shardblades damage damage the spiritual realm, and I dont think that being in the cognitive realm would randomly chage the basic function of an invested object. If what you proposed was true, then people with shardblades who fought in the cognitive that still were tied to the physical wouldn't be in anymore danger, they would just be fighting with over sized normal weapons basicly. I find this the most likely case. I would also like to point out that Leras could have just taken the blade with him when he went to Scadrial, it could be from Yolen.

Wait, are you theorizing that investiture is different from The Powers of Creation?

Brandon has told me before that a Spren can world hop. Based on new information, I think they would find it hard due to the investiture they are made up of being tied to Roshar. Despite this, he has confirmed it can happen.

Im pretty sure Arcanum Unbound is coming within the next half year. Isn't the point of it partially to toe stormlight fans over in 2016.

I don't think it is the power unit that is greater, but the investiture efficiency. I think that compounding makes the use of investiture more efficient, and thus it gives you a larger effect.

I thought about this and this is what I've got, Investiture expended = Investiture density of the metal mind * (Units of time spent burning * Mass of metal burned) The only variable that would be unaccounted for is Investiture efficiency, I doubt that would be 100%, and I'm pretty sure savantism would increase that. Thoughts?

Brandon has said that different shapes are important in different magic systems. It's not just Sel's magic that does things like this. Some examples are Surgebinding (think back to the glyphs on the acient KR's armor in Dalinar's flashback) and even allomancy (brandon has said that the molecular shape of the metals and their alloys is what allows them to act as keys for investiture). He has also talked about how Shards have colors, numbers, and shapes that are closely associated with the powers, this phenomenon could deal with that. Either way, I doubt it has to do with Selish magic.

Metal minds don't give off blue lines, the only time this haopened was when Vin burned the mists, it explicitly talks about how the blue lines weren't there until she was able to push on them.

Most Feruchemical attributes are either very subtle exept to the person using them or overtly obvious to the point where Hoid would use it in front of non Cosmere aware characters (or ones he doesn't want to learn that he has Feruchemy). He may be using a different kind of Feruchemy, but I don't think Brandon would have flat out said he uses Feruchemy if it is some wierd Yolish Feruchemy or something.

In the pair few years we have been speculating on how Hoid is able to travel to where he needs to be. We found out via WoB that it involved feruchemy, but nothing else besides that. While rereading secret history a line by one of the Ire struck me as relevant. He says "Not every coincidence is a sign of someone drawing upon fortune" when talking about the guard having spopted Kel. I think this nails down exactly how Hoid die it. As some have speculated, he, and possibly others, manipulate fortune to find out where to go to accomplish their goals. Thoughts?

I suspect that when a radiant says new oaths, they slowly are drawn father and fArthur into the cognitive realm, midst like how their spren are drawn more and more into the physical. If Jasnah has shadows that point the wrong way, my theory may be correct, as she is probably gather along in her oaths than the rest. If not, she may be accidentally else calling slightly into the cognitive realm, like how kaladin accidently sick things to a barrel.

He said it at a different signing I was at.

I doubt that he stole a shard. Frost tells Hoid that Rayse was "who we made him to be", so it seems like the 16 intentionally have him the Shard.

Yup, we have confirmation.