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Actually that's a really good point. Take an oral contraceptive pill, burn gold and you'd probably be fertile again. Makes perfect sense. Guess it is prophylaxis again. Hrmnm. I'm going to agree with you on glucose and ffas, mainly because I don't think Miles got exhausted from his feats either which he ought to have. Plus..if he didn't need to breathe and that implies the TCA cycle can then function independent of its most important input -oxygen- so he probably doesn't need mere glucose or acetyl CoA. Yeah. Really cool. I wonder if one could use mental gymnastics like Vasher to use gold to give them an optimal form. Finally, on medicine in general, I'd suspect you are right on. Burning gold would almost have to remove it for cases like chemo or atropene or digoxin. They are out and out poisons. I'd feel it'd be outweighed by the positives though. Like I can't imagine burning gold would be less effective than medicine. However, I just had a thought, virus require cells to replicate and by healing this cells you ought to be able to purge them. Maybe why Wayne mentions the difficulty is because you'd have to tap gold for a long time. Long enough for the virus to die in the body without cells to coopt? The only hitch here would be if gold is unable to remove things from the body. That is if it can only regenerate. I forget have we seen someone use it to heal poison before?

A fellow science kid appears? I more mean that if gold is health and autoimmune disease is a disease (which it kinda is, but with an issue with the cause) like, for example, if you were a type 1 diabetic and you burned gold, not only would your islet cells be healed but your immune system might stop targeting them, because a 'healthy' system shouldn't work that way. But, I would think that allergies could be healed by gold by a similar rationale, as a 'healthy' system shouldn't be that way. Importantly I should note that I am taking this in the context of gold based healing for diseases to be difficult but not impossible, so maybe an autoimmune disease or allergy would be even more difficult. I mean, at the higher level of gold-based compounding Miles didn't even need to breathe. So, essentially, at some level gold is a sort of panacea 'soul healing' mechanism rather than one that engages a specific individual (or series) of physical regenerative pathways. We agree on cancer which I suspect is for the same reason, genetic damage that can be healed by cancer. To expand on what I said abut diabetes, my understanding is that if you were a diabetic with a load of glucose and ffa in your system, your pancreas would still be smashed hard so you'd go through the typical phase of healthy to insulin resistant to frank diabetic unless you healed regularly. For a compounder this is easy, but for a Bloodmaker it'd be a little more of an issue. But, I feel that was essentially what you meant. I would guess that an uncomplicated pregnancy would be healed, that is, remain healthy whilst a troublesome one (such as an ectopic one) might be terminated. hahaha, that's an awesome point. I don't think it'd effect menstrual cycles, I mean, people still age on gold and they are part of the natural system. However this might depend on how the woman views herself and her cycles, I'd imagine that a day into a period a woman could potentially tap gold to quickly remove the endometrial tissue (like Wayne and his back burn) and regenerate a new layer, essentially cutting short a period and jumping right ahead. I'd be interested if a woman who needed say...an egg donor was given an unkeyed goldmind if she could restore her store of folicles. Actually, I'd be pretty interested in how a Hundredlives-style compounder or Bloodmaker's conditioning response would work. Usually post-exercise muscle damage results in inflammation and increased biochemical signalling, such as AMPK activation in speed and endurance based feats, which drives increased mitochondrial biogenesis, or uses different mechanisms (like myostatin downregulation) to enhance muscle growth post strength based training. If you regenerate this post exercise damage, would you regenerate with hypertrophy or without? My gut says without, you're 'cheating' and you should be restored to what you were before the damage, not where you could be. But, using the evidence, you'd get the gains, we see this with Kaladin getting fitter despite using stormlight, albeit unintentionally, to heal and enhance his performance and I'd guess that if gold is healing it should heal the damage in the best possible way, so jump right into hypertrophy. Hah, there's probably better uses for gold compounding than a slight increase in gym gains though.

Well, if gold can heal soul damage I'd imagine it could heal cancer or autoimmune disease. Unless you viewed yourself as fundamentally diseased. Take Renarin's spectacles for instance. Like, if you were a diabetic I'd imagine it'd heal that too, but maybe you'd have to keep healing it.

Longer reply than OP, colour me impressed. Just don't Awaken something with me afterward. Ha ha ha. But srs. For Shall, I hope the infiltration bit is over now. They know who Veil is, I hope it turns out the ghostbloods actually have more depth and relevance than the whole Amaram business *hisses* and it ends up going somewhere. Like, it is worth noting they wanted Amaram dead before anyone else knew what sort of slime he was, and they know about Vargo, and they worldhop. I could see them actually being relevant, interesting, players if properly directed. I'm excited for 3 and her. I'm pretty interested that a few people have had the same take on Kal. Cool at first glance but with a lot of burrs subsequently. Could you expand on what you mean about the SA being Kaladin centric? Do you mean how every character connects around him? Or do you mean how most big things are done by him? I mean, is it the relationship, the events, or both that aggravate you? I will say this, I do appreciate that Kaladin does feel more like a flawed and human character with real issues than Shallan. Dalinar Interesting take, what did you think of him as a POV into the history of Roshar? This was one of the main lures for me on reread. I definitely liked his WoK final vision with Tanavast, and it spoke a lot to me how he realised his god was dead and that he would fight on in the knowledge that what killed him could be killed. Adolin This I think we can both agree on. I am hoping for better Adolin focus in the future, especially with more arcs as funnily enough his commentary for friends is a lot like his PoV; he has many but they are rarely very deep or meaningful. There are a few solid ones, like when he worries his father is losing his mind, when he is duelling and when he realises that following the Codes means that war is about a war. Not to mention Sadeas stuff. But it is kinda of sad how limited his PoVs are in both arc and buildup. Personally, I'd ditch the Eshonai stuff in favour of Adolin.

You got it, gon. The well is empty post release and he had to submerge completely in its waters to cross realms.

I totally get that. To be honest I find it a little annoying that Dal and Shall get Spren that are more...flawed or human. Syl is pretty much the perfect conscience, angel-on-the-shoulder type. It is nice that she is playful and funny, but it is also a little hard that when Syl expresses a judgement she is pretty much never wrong. I actually really like the Ghostblood arc. It adds a darker, Cosmere aware angle that is absent from the other chapters. I don't think we have anything to worry about. Hel left them and I think Shall will too. Totally. Double totally with Adolin. Oh absolutely. This is more about how when I first read SA I thought Kal was much more of a justified man of action, like, being in his head I saw his dislike of Adolin and the lighteyes as morr fair. Now I see him as still a good character but his flaws and bias are more on the nose. I think the bits leading up to and directly after the Honor Chasm are still one of the most powerful sequences I have read. With Dalinar, I more mean that I didn't realise at first how haunted and ultimately alone he was, especially in much of WoK. How human. Like in Adolin, Kal and Shall chapters we see him painted as this ideal general with this force of personality but we don't see that in his chapters. We see an unsure man struggling to make the court of his brother what he desperately believes they can and should be and who, honestly, miscalculates and fails a lot.

Not the first friend. I don't even eat meat and they sound tasty. You could always try to make your own, I'd suggest a turkish bread for the outside.

I was actually surprised by the Hoid sequence in general. Especially that although we've long figured he couldn't hurt people, he can apparently hurt dead people? Cool. The thing remains, how did he get offworld after the release of ruin? Did he just hang at Scadrial for three hundred years, or did Harmony's shardpool form and allow him to flee? Stuff with Leras was actually a really nice touch, especially the camaraderie, also nice to see that Leras did actually make contact with Kell in the Pits. I actually don't like that Kell was behind so much of resistance against Ruin, it kinda seems like he undercut a lot of the achievements of Vin and so on. Overall, cool to see the world expanded so.

I think Ruin even mentions that Kelsier isn't in all three worlds so his holding is compromised.

Firstly, my understanding is that Hoid can lightweave but does so in a Yolish manner as opposed to a Radiant one. Secondly, wow, I'm off with that then.

Oh, you reckon he is doing it like he lightweaves? Definitely possible, especially given BoM.

It's kind of funny how a reread can change perspectives, I've noted a few things here but feel free to add your own/throw rocks and fruit. Shallan For one, I definitely found Shallan much less annoying on reread. I mean, she still feels too Suey. But I used to find her chapters a chore to get through, and now less so. I still don't really like her wit, mainly because she gets praised for stuff that is just kinda weak and bland (maybe that is Vorin wit?) but I actually found her chapters to be a nice contrast to Kaladin's grim early WoK chapters and his later heavy brooding chapters. In general it was really cool to see her come out of her shell and to (re)learn a lot of the stuff about Roshar with her. I will say this though, the mind blanking stuff is frustrating as allthing. Kaladin Wow. You really notice the tendency to self flagellate on the reread, and the racism against lighteyes. Overall I was actually rather surprised how much less I liked Kal on the reread. Not to mention the number of times he could have done better if he'd acted different. Top marks for genuinely struggling to function and having legitimate issues with authority and emotions. This aside though, I was still pleased with how cool he could be. Maybe because I noticed how close to the edge he was through so much of WoK and how torn up he gets in WoR. Adolin Wow. Adolin is way nicer than I remember. Maybe it is just because he is fighting in so many of his chapters I always kinda imagined him as a brasher, darker character. Maybe that's just because of how WoR ends. But even right up to Sadeas I was in his corner and thinking about it I still am. I mean on my first read I was very into Dalinar and Kaladin, but I think in general Adolin comes across as a much nicer, cooler character. Maybe even too cool. I mean, awesome at the sword, funny, stands up for the little guys, makes choices based on solid evidence, and the one time he does actually lose his temper and snap it is to kill a man who has just declared that he's pretty untouchable, unashamed and won't stop at anything. Noting this, I am definitely in Adolin's corner with Sadeas. Much more than I was on the first read. It is pretty comparable to the situation with Straff in Mistborn so far as I see it, maybe even more justified. Dalinar I was actually surprised by how little Dalinar does and how much of a doormat he is for so much of tWoK and how little he does in WoR. Really. I remembered him as pretty solidly badass with the rest of the Highprinces acting like kids, but he drops the ball on so many occasions it is actually surprising. Still a good character, but I spent way more time than was healthy... puzzled...by how he acted. I suppose the big thing that struck me if how often we're told he is a good commander or leader, but how rarely we see it. I'm honestly surprised he got as many Highprinces as he did at the end of WoR. Strangely enough, I actually think in a lot of ways Dalinar might be the most human SA character. On the first read, especially with the gap between WoK and WoR, I didn't really notice just how haunted he was by Gavilar's death and how isolated he was. This may have come across as pretty negative, but I don't mean it that way, I actually might be happier with how the books are now.

The man is a treasure. Would that other authors measured up. Hrm, I always kinda (sorta) figured you'd need a Atium/Lerasium alloy to give Feruchemistry, as it is the melding of the two, but that's actually pretty good. Wait. Wait. But Hoid is an allomancer, he'd have to have taken the bead for that yah?

I think it is likely to be a byproduct of the culture. As metallic arts being so prominent in the culture it makes sense as slang. Characters also use "rusting" as an expletive. Makes sense. It is like how storming is a cuss on Roshar. Maybe the ruin thing comes from the characters referencing the former shard, maybe it is mere alliteration, maybe it is that both are expressions of a distasteful state or event. I highly doubt rust is a person or identity.

I am kind of surprised how . . . Ineffective? Sazed is. Maybe it is the shards intent clashing in him. I mean...what does Harmony want? But, like, Preservation was great at predicting the future and presumably Harmony ought to be good at that too. I guess there's a lot of things I am presuming come with the Shards. Maybe Harmony needs to know the shard to predict it. Maybe he needs to test his poweer to know it and his nature disallows this. Maybe he is like a fullborn with no knowledge and I am standing on the sidelines saying "how do copperclouds even stop you. This would never happen to the Lord Ruler."

I think Randuir has it. But, furthermore, I feel like as a sniper your job is pretty much to take position and wait for an opportunity. Slowing time isn't really as useful when time isn't really an essentially commodity. Compare and contrast to a Wax and Wayne style thing. When you are brawling and using shorter range firearms every extra second to think starts to matter. Really I would guess that f.zinc or f.steel would be better for a sniper. But then again f.steel is pretty much never not an particularly pertinent power.

I assumed it was sort of only internal body heat that was stored. So if you had a fever you could indeed store the heat to make yourself feel better. . . But it wouldn't break the fever because as soon as you stopped storing it would pop back up.

As an aside I'd suggest "Ferroborn" or maybe "Feruborn" as one who has feruchemical powers in general, weather they be ferring or feruchemist, especially because AFAIK you are always born with them if you have them. But I think we're a little too early to see those advanced feruchemical powers used. It also helps that for the majority of Mistborn we haven't seen that many unrestricted feruchemists. I mean, it is possible Hoid is doing his language worldhopper thing via connection feruchemistry but that's about it (and a bit if a stretch at that).

Hmmmm, decent rationale all around. I should point out that Soulcasters and their use are more widespread, they are certainly present in Jah Keved as it is noted that the brutal fighting there might be partly due to the use of Soulcasters to unbind armies from supply constrains that would be considered in our world. But in regards to if the changes to Soulcasters (the people) only happen on the Shattered Plains we have no real evidence, the only person we even really see interact with them who isn't a Highprince level Lighteyes are ardents and I think we only see the Soulcasters as they are because no one can stop Adolin (?) from viewing his own soulcasters. I was going to note the part about Stormlight helping plants grow, but was beaten to the point. I would , however, like to note that Cultivation is apparently the Shard that would best get on with Ruin, and I believe this is reflective of the fact that She likes to see things grow to new forms (a belief that is held over in Vorin teachings) but may not necessarily care for the preservation of the current form or order. That is, she'd be fine with the world falling apart so long as she'd be able to grow a new one...but once it is made she's less invested in maintaining it. In addition, I'm not sure the bearers of Shards can determine what they are called, so the Shard is Cultivation and the bearer has little impact on that. Unless...you mean her original ideal of Cultivation is such that it supports a more systematic, rigorous regulated growth. In any case, I don't Cultivation as having a particular active role, maybe she did once but not now...This is also supported by thew fact that now that Honour is dead, Cultivation apparently cares little for humans on Roshar.

Full Metal Releaser. Oh, you're not wrong, I meant though that, for instance Kaladin actually does receive a very real increase to his abilities. Hmmm. Let me explain my reasoning. I admit it's kind of baseless. Like Jasnah says, Honour is an expression of an ideal, ideals are abstract concepts and spren are shards of gods and thus they themselves represent an idea, by engaging in a nahel bond Kaladin is receiving a very real increase to his capacity to perform tasks by being able to interact with the ideal. So it is that Spren gain human sentience and so it is that humans gain spren-like adherence to an ideal. Kaladin is able to become a particularly good soldier/bodyguard/leader because he can fix and draw on that ideal. It's also why the bond begins to weaken when Kaladin is doing things he knows are not in keeping with the core ideal of the role he's taken. Even if it was the right thing to do, the King's bodyguard cannot be the kings assassin. Using this as a starting point, a Dustbringer who sees himself as and has the opportunity to become, a fighter would likely receive a sort of long run bonus to their capabilities much like Dalinar and Kaladin are both excellent fighters. It's not without base in the Cosmere (with Preservation and Endowment both altering the mind slightly) Lacking motivation for that paper due at 9AM tomorrow? STORMLIGHT TO THE RESCUE. It is true of all windrunners according to Brandon, but we've yet to meet another Windrunner. I think that individual differences might not be that drastic, although they might effect spren behaviour.

Just to note Max, remember we know that Windrunner's unique trait is not enhanced combat abilities, not that they do not receive them at all. I've proposed this idea before, but I think that as well as receive some general powers (such as stormlight use) and some unique powers (such as the surges) but they may receive some semi-unique powers or gifts as a result of their role in life. Like, a Dustbringer who is a soldier may find he's particularly apt with swords but maybe if he was a philosopher he'd be a super deconstructionist. Basically, this is an alternate theory as to why someone like Shallan is a painter, Jasnah is a world-famous scholar (noted for her will) but Dalinar and Kaladin are both superlative fighters. Basically, I think to a degree spren gift expression follows the context of someone's life and in this scenario it would depend on the Radiant, not the order as to what 'gifts' he has. In regards to the OP, I really don't like the 'shatterpoint' idea. Basically because it's overly simplistic. There's no one spot you could hit to destroy it all, some systems might be too dynamic and resilient while others might have multiple points where a hit could bring them down. So yeah. Something a little toned down might do. In fitting with their characters Releasers might be able to see how to break a thing down. Like they might hold a metal bar and know the best way to apply division. Like, a Skybreaker might be able to use division, but maybe they wouldn't truly be able to get the most out of it.

That's a good point, but I think that being a Shardbearer would already entitle you to a higher rank so assuming you weren't a lighteyes of sufficient wealth to maintain Shards before you receive them, you likely would be after. After all, it is the interest of Highprinces to keep their shardbearers in tip-top fighting condition. I think it would depend on the situation. If you were going to say, the Shattered Plains, Shardplate would be my choice for a number of reasons but mainly that Shardbearers are already well powerful enough with shard hammers and bows and survival is going to be more important than raw killing power. That is, being a Shardbearer with just blade is less useful for your army and you. Sure, you can fight with regular armour...but you can't cross chasms as easily as a Shardplater or Parshendi and yet you still have to fight like a Shardbearer (withiout close-in support from your fellows.) I mean, really, being a decent archer and having a Shardbow would be hieous for anyone on the receiving end. If you were going to stay back in a city or at court, a Shardblade is probably more useful as it's always around and equally potent (a mere ten beats away) and you're not dealing with scenarios where it is likely dozens of enemies will attempt to isolate an overrun you (hopefully!) If you were wandering the world a blade is probably the better as well, for much the same as the above reasons. I also object to Blades on moral reasons.

I don't think the WoB are necessarily contradictory. Like, they could be, but as a previous poster noted there's now questions of identity. Like, if two people go null-identity they might actually be able to splice sDNA liberally between each other if and when they draw on identity and burn hemalurgy spikes. Of course, they'd pretty much have to be Fullborn (or every specific twinborn combos) for it to even be a question which makes it pretty darn rare. I mean it would almost be like...what's the point?

I don't like the WoR change. Mainly because it seems unnecessary. The book is out here and published and there's really no reason to change it...I mean BS says it doesn't fit with Kaladin's character but it isn't like Kal is only about protection. The way I see it, Szeth was a danger no matter what and Kaladin killing him was the right thing to do given the respective contexts and knowledge. Moreover, the re-write is heavy-handed and Syl's comments just seem pretty darn meta, to drive home the point that Szeth is harmless now so it's cool to not confirm that the most dangerous person on Roshar (arguably) is very dead. To bring it back to the issue though, I'd have preferred it if Szeth just gave up and died after realising what Kal was or if Kal outright killed him. The Kaladin just changing where he stabbed at the last minute is....yeah.

Actually 'unhallowed' can and does mean either made unholy or simply not holy to begin with. In this case, I believe it to be the second while you are clearly taking it to be the first. I second the opinions of most of the others here, just like how Shin will trade for metal that has been soulcast and not mined, they probably don't have a problem with stone that has been soulcast. It is also worth mentioning that Szeth clearly thinks the city is holy, but not necessarily the stone.