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Any change in core body temperature should kill you. So basically by what you are saying that the boon does not apply to storing like it does tapping, then it is impossible to store heat at all as you will die. All the feruchemical arts have thresh-holds yes, but that does not mean the boon does not apply. There is a hard limit to how much heat you can tap, just like there is probably a hard limit on how much you can store. But that still does not prevent Vin from storing heat to lower her appearance on heat signature. I think it is counter intuitive to build in a boon to lets you tap an ability so you do not die, but exclude it from storing when that can be just as lethal. I guess this has reached a point where we just agree to disagree.

Well at least my logic is that if the head isn't severed within a certain amount of time, the Lord Ruler would be brain dead. His body would keep healing the organ failure, but it couldn't heal what happened to the brain as there would be shards of aluminum as well as liquid aluminum pervading it. Even assuming he could tap gold unconsciously, I am fairly certain he cannot compound unconsciously, so he would run out of healing stores trying to keep his body alive from organs shutting down as there would be no brain activity to keep them going and no artificial machines working them. It would take longer than for others people, but I do still believe it is possible. Then again the reason for my post in this thread wasn't to argue how to kill the Lord Ruler, but to point out how ludicrously hard it would be for a normal person to accomplish it. It would have to take an impossible scenario where the shooter had technology far beyond what was present during his rule, from a position that did not exist in the city, and enough time for him to be brain dead and run out of stores (assume he can as you say unconsciously tap without any brain functions at all) that would not occur as TLR had guards. If all those requirements were met could it be done? I believe yes. Could it realistically ever be accomplished, I think no.

Well here is a question, the energy redirection is regarding either kinetic (so physical force actually striking it), or energy in a plasmic sense. So since shardblades phase when they cut inorganic armor, is it really striking the surface for it to be kinetic, or energy? Not sure if that answer is clear cut :::badum tisssss:::::

Yes if you are worthy, probably not if you weren't (not sure if there is enough stormlight in existence to get that hammer off the ground if it don't want to lol). My boss keeps throwing this one at me, and it frustrates him lol. What would happen if absorbing man touched Vin? Absorbing man can mimic any form of matter or energy via physical contact. He has absorbed and become energy thrown at him, and even absorbed thor's hammer. So he thinks he has me check mated. But then my response is nothing. He would become a mistborn, but as he had not ingested any metal, he has nothing to burn lol.

My only disagreement is if the bullet hits the brain, shatters, and spreads liquid aluminum around preventing healing, The Lord Ruler would not have the motor skills nonetheless the cognitive functions to decide to cut off his own head so he can heal. So as long as he is alone long enough after getting head shotted in this incredibly unlikely scenario, he would die for good lol.

Hey now wait a minute! In another thread I proved that a sniper rifle with aluminum jacketed bullets, with an aluminum magnesium core, head shotting the Lord Ruler from miles away would kill him. So see? All you need is far superior technology than the time period allows, an impossible vantage point as the tallest building in Luthadel is the Lord Ruler's castle itself, and the hope that none of his inquisitors decide to chop off his head to complete negate the problem of liquid aluminum suffusing his brain/skull. So yeah! See? Totally can kill him without divine powers........sorta......lol

Edgedancer. Not to get grim, but given my mother's passing to cancer and everything that happened in Florida, I would rather be able to skate high speeds everywhere and heal people, than fly and kill people Which would you rather, be a soother but you are vulnerable to other soothers and rioters, or be a smoker, thus immune, but with no other powers to speak of?

Ghostblood. I feel like although it is very cut throat, there is more room for upward mobility. The Set, especially with how things go later in the books, I feel are more limiting lol If you could choose (and not have to hold to the ideals), which spren would you want? Honorspren, Cryptic, Whatever the truthwatcher spren is called, or whatever the edgedancer spren is called? Don't worry about the powers, I am just curious which spren people like the most

Ooooooo yeah. I am completely with you with that. And then on top of that when people pointed it out and asked politely, they were ignored. I had to do a follow up comment and complain on their facebook, before they "explained" what happened. They claimed that once the kickstart was backed, they weren't checking. They didn't think there was going to be any follow up questions. That is plain and simple horrible customer service. One backer said that that is just the nature of kickstarter, but the whole point of the website is you are investing in a product you believe in. The individuals you are investing in do have a duty to keep their investors informed in a timely manner. So that utterly disappointed me. From what I have seen, typically a kickstarter will start without stretch goals (though some do start with them). Once an interest is gauged, they start building stretch goals to gain more pledges and interest. Basically as long as you back enough to get the product itself, you automatically get every single stretch goal. The stretch goals are just to get new people to hop in and get that number higher. The problem is, Crafty decided to cut corners and do the molds out in China. This ultimately is not a total problem, but this was not announced till after the dice was already 3 or more months late. And they only notified us after the delivery date passed, three times. Lateness is fine, it happens, and in fact happens a lot on kickstarter. but let the client base know. Don't make them poke, prod and complain before you explain. Sorry for the rant, just the whole thing left a bad taste in my mouth, which is a shame. Who knows, maybe they learned their lesson from the last kickstart and will do better. I certainly hope so

It has been confirmed that allomancers can burn metals on other planets and still have access to preservation despite being off planet. So a thug burning pewter on Scadrial is just like a thug burning pewter on Roshar. That, and also like Argel and Yata said, they could use pewter mined naturally from Roshar I agree that the parshendi could maintain their forms on Scadrial, but to change an existing one to a new form, I think they would have to hop back to Roshar and wait for a highstorm. But that is only based on the base forms. Voidforms could be unique in that regard, so I could be wrong. Something tells me packing enough metal rods to form shavings for allomancers would be very easy. Probably one metal bar would last a misting a year for average burning. Maybe a month for constant burning. Then there is the likely chance of stealing a soulcaster, and using that for resupply. Not that they would need to if my rough guesses are at all accurate.

Brandon has said that the oaths can be spoken in different ways, it is just the meaning behind it that remains the same. There is going to be another windrunner that states different oaths from Kaladin in the coming books as per WoB. Lightweavers are much more complicated due to personal truths I agree, but the oaths for windrunners are not pre-determined words.

I didn't think of that, so upvote, but I do not think so. Marsh can literally say "the devil made me do it". So if the theory that you have to genuinely believe what you are doing is wrong, but still do it, and blame yourself is why you get the screams, then it wouldn't happen to Marsh. He wasn't doing it, Ruin made him.

I will only make this post, and then I will stop because I do not want to continue to distract from the main point of the post (sorry about that by the way!). I take those quotes to say "we are going to pull a con on the final empire (like oceans eleven), to get the lord ruler out of the way (like how they got the owner of the hotel out of the way). Then once the rebellion works, we grab half the atium, the biggest score in our lives (like the vault in the gambling hotel in oceans eleven). Just because there are a whole bunch of additional steps to get there, they are still ultimately robbing the lord ruler. Pulling a con to get it, is no different than actually physically stealing it. But this is more semantics, and the reason I wrote what I did is I can be picky with terms and such. I am personally on the fence regarding the game. It is an interesting concept, but at the same time I also wish it was more crew related. Ironically enough the reason I will not be backing it but probably buying it one day has nothing to do with this at all. I will not back it, because I did not like how Crafty Games handled their dice kickstarter at all. So I do not have much faith in them for this kickstart. If this kickstart gets off the ground, I will be purchasing the game when it hits stores more for the collector's sense than actually playing it. That's why I have been silent for most of this thread. Again, sorry to nitpick, but the infiltration is with the aim to pull a con. Just because an aspect of the con includes politicking does not mean that is what the book is about. But I probably should not even commented on your post, because at this point I am beating a dead horse, you did admit the heist is a central theme, and I was not stating what I did to say that it wasn't worth exploring just because it is an aspect. I am kind of on the fence. So basically this part of my post was utterly pointless lol. Sorry!

I am still of the opinion where giving only two options that are both dishonorable, does not make one of them honorable by proxy. They both are dishonorable regardless. Just one has to be done. It is a necessary evil, but it is still an evil even though it is necessary. Perhaps at the time they did not know how Odium was shattering shards so they did not even have the capacity to. Or their limited knowledge would risk themselves dying or being damaged. Since they were in a relationship, it would be understandable to try and find other solutions that wouldn't result in the one you love coming to harm. Maybe in the span of them trying to find another way, Odium was able to shatter Honor. Or they found another way in the oath pact, but Odium still found a way around it enough to shatter honor. Would certainly explain why Cultivation would be bitter. She could be bitter towards the heralds for not holding up their end, and resulting in Honor getting shattered. Or it could be completely unrelated. Just spit balling

Personally what I think made Ruin the way he was was arrogance. You can be a kind and just man, but still be utterly full of yourself. He was incredibly prideful. I feel like the shard just ended up magnifying that, and that is how he got totally out of control. Even good people, have bad sides, or aspects of themselves. Same thing with bad people. That is probably why Rayse is so adverse to picking up shards. Like Brandon said, hatred suits him. Maybe throwing another intent in, might soften his hard line for ruling the cosmere.

I personally disagree regarding pewter, but regardless as I said by storing like a ferring, Vin would have the boon where she would not be subject to that issue. If you can raise your body heat enough to burn someone, and not cook yourself by tapping heat, then you can certainly "chill out" enough to not come up as a heat signature and not shut down. So it is most definitely possible and viable. Would be funny though if she used them as basically giant projectiles to shoot at Tony. Basically watch him running and saying "this was not part of the plan!!!!" lolol

I do believe, at least regarding European forms of succession, if she married a younger man, and then she died, he would keep the title and could remarry. What may muddy things up is if a heir was specifically chosen. (out of curiosity last week I had read up on Henry the 8th). So if Sadeas already named someone, Lalai is out. If he didn't, she gets the titles. If she remarries but makes a clause where someone else inherits (as with Queen Elizabeth from Queen Mary), then the new guy gets nothing/or whats stipulated upon. This is of course all assuming Alethi nobility functions the same way as European especially when considering the Alethi culture more mimics Asian cultures. I think I may do some digging into that...... edit: so what it looks like is first it is the direct child of Sadeas. Male takes precedence. If no male son, and only daughter, then they may either look to a male brother or relative. If not then the daughter. If there is no child to inherit, nor male relative, then I believe it stays with the wife. But as these are rulers and they can at times make their own rules, there is always an exception lol

One tidbit of info I would like to add. I do not believe Ialai will necessarily end up like Navani. Navani already had two grown children, one a male heir and another to marry off by the time Galivar died. The power then passed to Elhokar as Galivar's heir. Now there was one thread that spoke of the possibility of Ialai being pregnant or having children back home, but I personally do not think that is true. Therefore it leaves her as a very eligible widow who many nobles will seek to marry to secure her land and titles. I could totally see her choosing an idiot that she could manipulate and remain the real power behind the title.

Actually the whole premise of the novel is to steal the Lord Ruler's atium. The army and riots are meant to be a distraction so they can get to the atium, as well as get paid for doing it by the rebels. Only later on does that change. Also Brandon has specifically stated in his mind it was a heist novel. edit: now of course we could discuss what were Kelsier's true motivations, but the theft of the atium is the premise of the novel.

Also Markiplier's Let's Play Emily Wants to Play lol. Also if you just type react into youtube, you will find the react channel where they have a lot of lets play or people of various ages reacting to various things.

Also I would like to point out every single death at Shallan's hand was in self defense or defense of another. Also arguably her body count is far less than Kaladin's as he was actually in border skirmishes for an extended period of time back at home as well as when he reaches the shattered plains with the parshendi. Only difference is most of the kills Kaladin did was off screen/during battle.

I believe both would be dis-honorable but one would be necessary. Leaving no other options does not make choosing the only option honorable.

Ah ok. Learned something new. Thanks!

I was responding to whether or not Honor would be able to make Cultivation be honorable by making Cultivation hold Odium. So I was saying that by forcing Cultivation to hold Odium, Cultivation was being coerced so then Cultivation was not acting honorable. This post is if you were replying to mine. if you were however positing a new question, then please carry on lol.

Again I was given to understand his immortality was the type like gold feruchemists where he cannot be killed but he still does age which is why he jumps forward through time and somehow uses his feruchemy to know where he needs to be and when. But I could be wrong, or missing a WoB somewhere.