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  1. I do think this thread can be steered back to actually address StanLemon's question. Regardless of how godly you think the Shards are, you can still rate which is best for their people.
  2. We got a new Brandon Sanderson book this year already, and it is Lux! It is an Audible original set in the Reckoners universe, and it's time for us to talk about it. Overall we liked it, but we obviously get into the weeds, because it's Shardcast. Spoilers for the original Reckoners trilogy (Steelheart, Firefight, and Calamity) here, but if you haven't listened to Lux yet, we start with spoiler-free reactions. Chapters are below! Hosting this episode is David (Windrunner), and we also have Ian (Weiry), Evgeni (Argent), Danielle (FelCandy), and Marvin (Paleo)! How many ways can Evgeni say a different character when he meant Jax? Well, you'll find out! Lux is out: https://www.17thshard.com/news/brandon-news/lux-is-out-physical-dawnshard-and-way-of-kings-prime-dragonsteel-mini-con-r736/ 00:00 Introductions 2:26 Spoiler-free reactions to Lux 20:20 Spoiler stuff and the ending 45:16 The Reckoners 1:29:39 Epics 2:02:55 Final Thoughts 2:13:40 Who's That Reckoners Character If you like our content, support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/17thshard For discussion, theories, games, and news, come to https://www.17thshard.com Come talk with us and the community on the 17th Shard Discord: https://discordapp.com/invite/bMAUS5c Want to learn more about the cosmere and more? The Coppermind Wiki is where it's at: https://coppermind.net Read all Words of Brandon on Arcanum: https://wob.coppermind.net Subscribe to Shardcast: http://feeds.soundcloud.com/users/soundcloud:users:102123174/sounds.rss Send your Who's That Cosmere Characters to [email protected]
  3. Sure I suppose, but we did learn the metal's name in 2008 and it is present in all of the Metallic Arts tables. I would not say that Shadows of Self line is really the reason we know of it. That said the opening paragraph on the lerasium page does need a lot more citations than what it currently has.
  4. Regarding the Tien and Nohadon, I have absolutely no issue with that being up to interpretation, and I really like Brandon not discussing the Beyond or anything like that. I quite like that. Others may differ
  5. Here's our second Word of Brandon episode from JordanCon 2021! Here lay answers to critical questions like, if a tree falls in the Forests of Hell and no one is around to hear it, do the shades still get angry? And watch many questions from the general Q&A where people try to talk their away around spoilers in hilarious ways, like about a certain Scadrian's bones. Our cast today is Eric (Chaos), Ian (Weiry), Evgeni (Argent), Marvin (Paleo), and Rosemary (Kaymyth)! All Words of Brandon from JordanCon: https://wob.coppermind.net/events/472-jordancon-2021/ Chapters: 00:00 Introductions 2:43 Ralkalest vs. aluminum 4:37 Do Kelsier and Sazed still like each other? 7:02 Will Dalinar have a longer page count in Stormlight 5? 7:43 Did the Five Scholars go to Sel? 10:24 Dalinar's weird visions 14:48 Has Wit's bond bound him to Roshar more? 15:32 Dakhor monks 17:25 Is Roshar like Arelon, with something thematically broken? 19:09 Elantris sequel 20:21 Wax and Steris having children 22:36 Was there ever an Adolin and Shallan wedding scene written 23:35 How Fused and Regals get their Voidlight 27:12 No direform news for Ben 29:01 Lifeless and unkeyed metalminds 31:22 If a tree falls in the Forests of Hell and no one is around to hear it, do the shades still get angry? 33:11 A Bondsmith bound "other Surges" 40:07 Is the Survival Shard Autonomy? 42:41 Not really canonical snarky Nazh comments 47:57 Southern Scadrian body temperature 48:40 Word of Karen on White Sand 50:34 General Q&A: Can you Awaken a blanket to be warm? 52:59 Upcoming Brandon writing schedule, he may push Stormlight 5 back if needed 59:00 Ishar and a "certain Scadrian" having similar goals 1:06:15 What determines which realm Investiture returns to? 1:08:30 Is Endowment a dragon? 1:11:14 Did the Seventeenth Shard ever find Hoid? 1:13:30 Is Taravangian's boon and curse still in effect? 1:14:50 Can Hoid eat Soulcast bacon? 1:15:50 Whimsy in Lost Metal 1:17:34 Do seons automatically know what their Aon means? 1:21:58 Who has a better understanding of object souls, a Soulcaster or Forger? 1:24:38 Who's That Cosmere Character If you like our content, support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/17thshard For discussion, theories, games, and news, come to https://www.17thshard.com Come talk with us and the community on the 17th Shard Discord: https://discordapp.com/invite/bMAUS5c Want to learn more about the cosmere and more? The Coppermind Wiki is where it's at: https://coppermind.net Read all Words of Brandon on Arcanum: https://wob.coppermind.net Subscribe to Shardcast: http://feeds.soundcloud.com/users/soundcloud:users:102123174/sounds.rss Send your Who's That Cosmere Characters to [email protected]
  6. Oh boy everyone, we have some spice for you today! At JordanCon we had both a reading from the Lost Metal (Wax and Wayne 4), which was its prologue, as well as one of the craziest Words of Brandon: Taln didn't break! Holy crap. Oh, and Marvin's meme game is on point this episode. This week we have Eric (Chaos), Ian (Weiry), Evgeni (Argent), Jessie (Lady Lameness), Marvin (Paleo), and Rosemary (Kaymyth). Apologies for the late episode! The next one, which will be more WoBs, should be out Saturday, and we'll resume our once every two weeks schedule. You can find the transcribed Lost Metal reading here: https://wob.coppermind.net/events/472/#e14863 Here's an Arcanum collection of all the Words of Brandon: https://wob.coppermind.net/collections/875/ Amazing Navani and Raboniel cosplay by Galadriel and Callynah Coffeen (LittleGreyDragon and singmuse): https://twitter.com/CaylahCreations/status/1417135934613737476/photo/2 As always, you can skip to wherever you want using the chapters: 00:00 Introductions 10:40 JordanCon Experiences 21:04 Lost Metal Reading 31:32 Do spren feel sexual or romantic attraction? 32:37 Here be aethers 36:25 Taln didn't break! 46:52 Were all spren wounded by Ba-Ado-Mishram's binding? 51:30 God metal names changing 59:14 Is the kandra Felt's wife? 1:00:07 Why is Scadrial Investiture hereditary? 1:06:38 Intent and Command for Scadrial 1:15:23 Knowing about new Odium 1:17:56 Yolen perpendicularity, no Shards there! 1:20:45 Kelsier and the Ghostbloods 1:27:36 Cognitive Shadows having children 1:27:56 Vasher vs. Odium in memory manipulation 1:29:25 Hemalurgic lerasium vs. atium vs. nicrosil 1:38:37 Storing Hemalurgic spikes in blood 1:42:11 Was Kelsier involved with Bloody Tan? 1:45:00 Ishar doing more than just Connecting spren to the Physical Realm 1:49:38 Shallan's last name 1:54:46 Who's That Cosmere Character If you like our content, support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/17thshard For discussion, theories, games, and news, come to https://www.17thshard.com Come talk with us and the community on the 17th Shard Discord: https://discordapp.com/invite/bMAUS5c Want to learn more about the cosmere and more? The Coppermind Wiki is where it's at: https://coppermind.net Read all Words of Brandon on Arcanum: https://wob.coppermind.net Subscribe to Shardcast: http://feeds.soundcloud.com/users/soundcloud:users:102123174/sounds.rss Send your Who's That Cosmere Characters to [email protected]
  7. Yes, we have done so before.
  8. Hi @USMCGRIZZY19! That was a really touching thing to read and I'm glad you shared it. I would recommend you share it directly to Brandon using his Contact form (as Dragonsteel is not on here much, and there are a great many topics here): https://www.brandonsanderson.com/contact/
  9. Since names can be viewed in any board and the forum home page, etc., I would still prefer you not do that. It would not be fair to people starting Mistborn to have random other stuff spoiled. Especially big reveals like that.
  10. Yep! A moderator had cleared it out but I didn't have a chance to deal with it yet. It's done now! We have moved everything either to Cosmere or Stormlight. Some things might be miscategorized since there were over a thousand of them, so if you catch anything, please report it. Thanks!
  11. Yep! The spoiler period is done. I am going to lock this thread. You can now use the main memes thread:
  12. Sure, put it in Peter will eventually look at it and evaluate if it needs to be changed.
  13. Today, Tor Books announced that Dawnshard's full release will happen on November 9th. The announcement has few details that we didn't already know, but I presume that will mean you can find Dawnshard in regular bookstores and that we'll be getting the audiobook release of the book as well, which I know many of you have been waiting for! So that's good news all around. Of course, uh, you can already buy Dawnshard right now, as Dragonsteel Entertainment released it with The Way of Kings leatherbound Kickstarter. You can literally order a physical copy of it right now, though Dragonsteel won't be reprinting it when its stock runs out. You can also buy the ebooks of Dawnshard on your favorite ebook platform, and you've been able to since November 2020. Presumably, there will be a point where the ebooks from Dragonsteel will go defunct, and Tor will be handling all the future publishing of Dawnshard in the US, and so maybe new ebook listings will come up. It's amusing that Tor's announcement doesn't mention the fact that Dawnshard has been out for a while, but hey, it's marketing, so that's fine. It doesn't look like Dawnshard has made it to Gollancz (Brandon's UK publisher) yet, but I imagine they will also release it sometime this fall.
  14. Hey all! On August 17th, it'll be nine months since Rhythm of War released, which means that its spoiler period will end. That will mean several things. Forums Topics will be moved out of the Rhythm of War spoiler category and those spoiler boards will be removed. Depending on what was discussed in the topic, they will be moved into either Stormlight Discussion or Cosmere Discussion. It looks like there are 1825 total topics, so this might take a few days to move the topics to their correct new home. (Especially because the 17th is right in the middle of the work week.) You'll be able to fully talk about Rhythm of War in Cosmere or Stormlight. You will still need to spoilerify RoW stuff if you want to make a quick comment about it in Mistborn, for example, just the same as you would if you wanted to make an Oathbringer comment in the Mistborn board. Discord The spoiler channels will be retired. #row-spoilers will be archived, and #row-magic-mechanics will transform into #cosmere-mechanics. In #fanworks and #cosmemes you will no longer need to spoiler tag Rhythm of War stuff. Coppermind The spoiler flag on the top of articles that have Rhythm of War content will be removed, as well as the purple flag at the top warning people RoW content can be on the wiki. I think we will be keeping the first-time user pop-up, but change its language to be less Rhythm of War specific. Let us know if you have any questions or concerns!
  15. Let's steer this conversation more to the books and less on real-life politics, thanks!
  16. If you would like to discuss RoW content, it should be in the RoW boards (at least until the spoiler period is over on the 17th). I will just move this there, since the OP wants to bring up RoW.
  17. I'm not going to be harsh in enforcing this (especially tagged) before the spoiler period ends. It's fine.
  18. We are extremely fortunate to have the amazing booktuber Merphy Napier on the show today! She just finished The Bands of Mourning for the first time, and so we thought hey, let's talk about Mistborn Era 2! What book is everyone's favorite, favorite characters, and more! The rest of us reread Era 2 and we have thoughts (and many more podcasts on Era 2 are coming). We have Eric (Chaos), Ian (Weiry), Jessie (Lady Lameness), Rosemary (Kaymyth), and of course, Merphy, and you can find her channel here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7FW6FYqPLeQIXMSulBfOLw/ She just did a Bands of Mourning review (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZFfbD4KAGg) and she's been recently doing an awesome series on Inside Publishing (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKebN_9ykjo) which you should go check out! 00:00 Introductions 00:04:45 What did you think of Era 2? When to Read Secret History? 14:37 Shadows of Self 22:34 Favorite Era 2 books 35:20 Merphy on Bands of Mourning 47:26 Wayne 1:08:06 Wax 1:13:40 Steris 1:23:28 Marasi 1:28:57 Outro If you like our content, support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/17thshard For discussion, theories, games, and news, come to https://www.17thshard.com Come talk with us and the community on the 17th Shard Discord: https://discordapp.com/invite/bMAUS5c Want to learn more about the cosmere and more? The Coppermind Wiki is where it's at: https://coppermind.net Read all Words of Brandon on Arcanum: https://wob.coppermind.net Subscribe to Shardcast: http://feeds.soundcloud.com/users/soundcloud:users:102123174/sounds.rss Send your Who's That Cosmere Characters to [email protected]
  19. In this episode of Shardcast, we go through the very light, chill topic of Shallan's past. Oh boy, there is so much to talk about, and so much more in Rhythm of War to ruminate on. Let's grind through and see if we can figure out what's going on here. Today We have Eric (Chaos), Ian (Weiry), David (Windrunner), Grace (thegatorgirl), Joshua (jofwu), and Jessie (Lady Lameness, who I still owe brownies to). If you like our content, support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/17thshard For discussion, theories, games, and news, come to https://www.17thshard.com Come talk with us and the community on the 17th Shard Discord: https://discordapp.com/invite/bMAUS5c Want to learn more about the cosmere and more? The Coppermind Wiki is where it's at: https://coppermind.net Read all Words of Brandon on Arcanum: https://wob.coppermind.net Subscribe to Shardcast: http://feeds.soundcloud.com/users/soundcloud:users:102123174/sounds.rss Send your Who's That Cosmere Characters to [email protected]
  20. Chaos

    Lux

    I've moved this topic to the Lux spoiler board now. It comes out tomorrow!
  21. I guess it comes back to me thinking that really, no cosmere books would come out any faster in this hypothetical world. I think he may eventually just have some YA cosmere stuff that feels different enough in practice that it's still rejuvenating to work on, so he can be refreshed for Stormlights. But right now those don't exist yet.
  22. Do note, Brandon not doing side projects will not actually get Stormlight done any quicker. He has said on many occasions that he uses those other books to recharge and rejuvenate himself so he's ready to write a killer cosmere book. This has always been how he has worked. If he didn't write Skyward or noncosmere, honestly, I don't think you'd get a cosmere book any faster. Brandon says that the giant books are exhausting. By doing this, he makes sure people get something in between the breaks in Stormlight releases. Brandon is very conscious of time and has recently spoken in great detail that he wants to make sure he finishes the cosmere, so he has to get Stormlights done every three years. But ultimately I'd probably prefer Brandon to be excited to get to the big cosmere books and not burn out and hate writing them. That's what the noncosmere ones allow him to do. He's fairly consistently put out Stormlights every three years. It is a fact with this author that he will work on side projects in between the big ones, and still get the big books out more frequently than some other fantasy authors That said, Lost Metal has taken a while, for sure.
  23. We're continuing on with Words of Brandon from the June spoiler stream, as well as the Dusty Wheel interview! There are some very interesting WoBs this time, one pretty crazy one involving TenSoon. We also talk about more Investiture time dilation and more! Rhythm of War spoilers on this one! This week we have Eric (Chaos), Ian (Weiry), Evgeni (Argent), and Marvin 9Paleo)! Our next episode will be out 7/24, as we're moving back to our biweekly schedule. Here's our collection of all the Words of brandon in this episode: https://wob.coppermind.net/collections/807/ Here's our previous episode: https://youtu.be/EudC6a3Stvo You can watch the full spoiler stream here: https://youtu.be/A67G4ObX7CM You can watch Matt of the Dusty Wheel interview Brandon here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxQYLUUMCxI 00:00 Introduction 2:40 Is Nightblood a Sliver now? 5:21 Eshonai's experience in mateform 7:05 Sel-phones 9:38 Mistborn burning Tanavastium 13:43 Singers having red teeth 14:52 Singer skin and hair patterns 18:55 Did Hoid burn bendalloy in RoW? 23:55 Odium in RoW, TenSoon as Kelsier and the biggest WoB ever 42:03 Did get Sazed get memories fast when he Ascended? 47:47 Vasher isn't living his best life right now 52:45 Multiple moons on Roshar 54:40 Who can consume more Investiture, Nightblood or Chiri-Chiri? 55:10 Death rattles and when they will happen on-screen 57:15 Light in a vacuum 59:47 Mists leaking like Stormlight 1:01:28 Trapping mists in gemstone 1:08:35 Taravangian on Autonomy 1:12:10 Dusty Wheel Interview: fabrial RAFOs 1:13:09 Will we learn why Vasher and Vivenna got separated from Nightblood? 1:15:37 Kaladin falling to Odium? 1:19:29 Urithiru strata pattern related to Stoneshaping? 1:20:29 When will we see Taldain in more recent times? 1:22:34 Vessels from the planet a Shard influenced 1:23:21 Primer cubes with aluminum and chromium 1:34:31 Investiture time dilation, Spiritual Realm, and Selish Cognitive Realm 1:44:50 Groupings of Shards off of Dawnshards 1:50:47 Who's That Cosmere Character 2:07:07 Outro If you like our content, support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/17thshard For discussion, theories, games, and news, come to https://www.17thshard.com Come talk with us and the community on the 17th Shard Discord: https://discordapp.com/invite/bMAUS5c Want to learn more about the cosmere and more? The Coppermind Wiki is where it's at: https://coppermind.net Read all Words of Brandon on Arcanum: https://wob.coppermind.net Subscribe to Shardcast: http://feeds.soundcloud.com/users/soundcloud:users:102123174/sounds.rss Send your Who's That Cosmere Characters to [email protected]
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