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  1. This week on SpanReads, we are talking about magic in The Bands of Mourning! I'm sure nothing important happened in this one. This episode, we have Jessie (Lady Lameness), Mi'chelle (firstRainbowRose), Ian (Weiry), and Rosemary (Kaymyth)!SpanReads is a weekly series! Due to preview chapters, these will now be coming out Thursday for the last few weeks. Check out our 2022 schedule here: https://www.17thshard.com/news/features/were-starting-a-reread-podcast-may-4th-starting-with-mistborn-1-r819/ Thumbnail art is the Brazilian cover of Bands of Mourning, by Marc Simonetti: https://coppermind.net/wiki/File:BOM_BR_cover.jpg If you like our content, support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/17thshard For discussion, theories, games, and news, come to https://www.17thshard.com Come talk with us and the community on the 17th Shard Discord: https://discord.gg/17thshard Want to learn more about the cosmere and more? The Coppermind Wiki is where it's at: https://coppermind.net Read all Words of Brandon on Arcanum: https://wob.coppermind.net Subscribe to Shardcast: http://feeds.soundcloud.com/users/soundcloud:users:102123174/sounds.rss Send your Who's That Cosmere Characters to [email protected]
  2. Your art is always just so, so on fire. I love it.
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    Hmmmm... Spaghetti with a meaty sauce would be number one. Honestly, I don't need anything else. I could eat that forever. I love it. I have eaten for breakfast, lunch, and dinner in a day. I'm making it tonight. Delicious. 1. Great story and resolution for Sazed's arc that I really like, but realistically, religions also say a lot of inaccurate things too. Why not believe things we can empirically know are true instead? How do you know the difference? Well, without empirical testing, you have literally no way of knowing. So I'd prefer to find truth a very different way, with things that are demonstrably facts. If it can't be demonstrable or if there's not any data or evidence, is it even real? We legitimately know way more facts about the universe--deep, fundamental, insane facts--than anyone thousands of years ago, even ones that are supposedly divinely inspired. We know how disease happens, we know how the stars work, we know about atoms. We can demonstrate them, test them. That's so much more potent a story. With our own eyes and brains, we can learn so many deep secrets in the background! That's the truth I like. No faith required. Of course, if you get meaning and hope out of religion, cool, more power to you. I think a lot of people don't need some deep cosmic meaning to existence, though. I certainly don't. To me, it's natural. I think it's a lot of hubris to think that any one of us is so incredibly special. Just do your best to treat people kindly and don't be a jerk, and that's fine enough for me. So no, Sazed's arc is great for him, but is totally irrelevant to me. 2. Let's think of someone who is generally "good" for the sake of argument, and they were suddenly granted immortality. They will still have everyone they have ever loved die horrible deaths. That's not going to go well no matter what. Even in the best case scenario, with the best, most selfless people, I think a million years from now, they will not be having a good time. We are not designed for this. I think it's perfectly fine that we end at some point, and I find the obsession with existing forever to be very bizarre. 3. Well, you may be at a different stage of math than I am, but I find derivatives very mechanical and rule-based. Nothing to hate. Differentiation is kind of trivial. Certainly, the first time you see derivatives, there's a lot going on, but you had similar stuff with exponent and log rules and stuff like that. You remember a few rules and you can do any of these derivatives. It's nice. But then, I've been doing derivatives for fifteen years, so it's extremely old to me.
  5. Today we have a special episode, talking with author Janci Patterson on Bastille vs. the Evil Librarians, along with some stuff about the Cytoverse. We also randomly talk about dog bones and weresharks. It's lots of fun! In addition to Janci, we have Eric (Chaos), Ian (Weiry), and Kadie (Aon Ene). Sinking City (one of Janci's books): Chapters: https://www.amazon.com/Sinking-City-Skilled-Book-1-ebook/dp/B08FGTC9LJ 0:00 Introductions and Dog Bones 5:00 Bastille Non-spoilers 10:14 Bastille Spoilers 44:59 Cytoverse Spoilers 58:21 Final Thoughts 1:01:39 Who's that Alcatraz Character If you like our content, support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/17thshard For discussion, theories, games, and news, come to https://www.17thshard.com Come talk with us and the community on the 17th Shard Discord: https://discord.gg/17thshard Want to learn more about the cosmere and more? The Coppermind Wiki is where it's at: https://coppermind.net Read all Words of Brandon on Arcanum: https://wob.coppermind.net Subscribe to Shardcast: http://feeds.soundcloud.com/users/soundcloud:users:102123174/sounds.rss Send your Who's That Cosmere Characters to [email protected]
  6. This week on SpanReads, we are talking about characters and relationships in The Bands of Mourning! This episode, we have Jessie (Lady Lameness), Mi'chelle (firstRainbowRose), Ian (Weiry), and Rosemary (Kaymyth)! SpanReads is a weekly series! Due to preview chapters, these will now be coming out Thursday for the last few weeks. Check out our 2022 schedule here: https://www.17thshard.com/news/features/were-starting-a-reread-podcast-may-4th-starting-with-mistborn-1-r819/ Thumbnail art is the UK cover of The Bands of Mourning by Sam Green: https://coppermind.net/wiki/File:Bands_of_Mourning_UK_Hardcover.jpg If you like our content, support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/17thshard For discussion, theories, games, and news, come to https://www.17thshard.com Come talk with us and the community on the 17th Shard Discord: https://discord.gg/17thshard Want to learn more about the cosmere and more? The Coppermind Wiki is where it's at: https://coppermind.net Read all Words of Brandon on Arcanum: https://wob.coppermind.net Subscribe to Shardcast: http://feeds.soundcloud.com/users/soundcloud:users:102123174/sounds.rss Send your Who's That Cosmere Characters to [email protected]
  7. I have moved this topic to the appropriate place.
  8. Oh no! I hadn't replied here. See here for details, short answer, no: https://www.17thshard.com/forum/topic/110854-general-question-please/?do=findComment&comment=1381638
  9. Certain categories of art intentionally do not appear in that feed, such as RP art. Not quite related, but in case anyone is wondering, topics in the Lost Metal spoiler boards will also not appear in the new topic feed to avoid spoilers.
  10. This does sometimes happen for some reason. I am not entirely sure why. It doesn't last forever though.
  11. I have done so but in the future please PM me! I'm locking this thread.
  12. This week on SpanReads, we are onto The Bands of Mourning! What did we think on a reread? Stay tuned to find out. This episode, we have Jessie (Lady Lameness), Mi'chelle (firstRainbowRose), Ian (Weiry), and Rosemary (Kaymyth)! 00:00 Introductions 1:16 Recap 10:50 Reactions SpanReads is a weekly series! Due to preview chapters, these will now be coming out Thursday for the last few weeks. Check out our 2022 schedule here: https://www.17thshard.com/news/features/were-starting-a-reread-podcast-may-4th-starting-with-mistborn-1-r819/ Thumbnail art is the US cover of The Bands of Mourning, by Chris McGrath: http://www.tor.com/blogs/2015/04/cover-reveal-brandon-sanderson-bands-of-mourning If you like our content, support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/17thshard For discussion, theories, games, and news, come to https://www.17thshard.com Come talk with us and the community on the 17th Shard Discord: https://discord.gg/17thshard Want to learn more about the cosmere and more? The Coppermind Wiki is where it's at: https://coppermind.net Read all Words of Brandon on Arcanum: https://wob.coppermind.net Subscribe to Shardcast: http://feeds.soundcloud.com/users/soundcloud:users:102123174/sounds.rss Send your Who's That Cosmere Characters to [email protected]
  13. I don't see any issue with your account. I have tested and you can access the status update text box both with the Create button at the top on desktop, and also on your Profile. What exactly are you seeing on those screens?
  14. Terris Dominance: no, and I don't think such a formal thing even exists post-Catacendre. There is a page for The Village. Realistically the people page is the Terris page. I think Village can be its own page as an individual location, though.
  15. Hey there, we’re back with another round of Coppermind Objectives! The Lost Metal (Wax & Wayne 4) will be out before too long, and there’s still plenty of work to be done to prepare the Coppermind for it! There are tons of ways to help, so we hope you’ll join in! We’ll happily accept any help we can get, so don’t be shy. If you're new to editing the Coppermind, don't worry; we'll help you out with guides and plenty of assistance. You don't need experience or expertise, just the will to help out! We'll also give you Coppermind awards, because there’s nothing more fun than fake internet points! Without further ado, here are our objectives for The Lost Metal! If you find something you'd like to help with, claim it here, and let us know if you have any questions! If nothing in the list below catches your eye, there are leftover objectives from previous months up for grabs in the claim spreadsheet. If you sign up for something, please say hi on Discord so that we can offer support and touch base with you! Major Objectives 1. Edgard Ladrian As part of Kelsier’s crew, Breeze is one of the key figures of the Mistborn Era 1 books. Despite this, his page is lacking in many areas, especially his History and Relationships sections. 2. Cladent Though often more in the background than other members of Kelsier’s crew, Cladent’s page is also missing a lot of information. His History and Relationships sections need a lot of work. 3. Urteau Urteau is where most of Spook’s plotline takes place during The Hero of Ages, and it is missing a lot of information. It needs to be filled out with details about the policies and laws enacted there after the Lord Ruler’s death, the events that transpired there, and information on the city itself. 4. New Empire The New Empire is currently our only Mistborn Era 1 stub, there’s plenty of work to be done on it. The New Empire is the name for the empire that Elend establishes after the fall of the Final Empire, and we’re given a lot of information about it. The page needs to be filled out with information on the government and policies of the New Empire, as well as its history. 5. Terris The information on the Terris page is currently pretty scattered and brief, and much of it needs expanding. In addition, there’s no information on the page about the post-Catacendre Terris. In addition to expanding on the Era 1 information already there, this page needs to include details from Era 2 as well. Minor Objectives 1. Siege of Fadrex City (citations) Much of Vin and Elend’s plotline in The Hero of Ages takes place at Fadrex City. Fadrex's page needs to be filled out (and organized) with information on the city itself, as well as a brief history of the city. 2. Allik Neverfar Allik doesn’t get a ton of time on-screen since he only appears in The Bands of Mourning, but there’s still some more work to be done on his page. His History section needs expanding, and his whole page is in need of several citations. 3. Originators This page is one of our few Mistborn Era 2 Stubs. This page doesn’t need a ton of information on it, but it’d be good to add more details on how the Originators are regarded in Era 2 Scadrial’s culture, and their influences. If you have any questions on where to go with this page, the Keepers would be happy to point you in the right direction. 4. The Village The Village is the main Terris settlement in Elendel, where Wax lived for a time. This page doesn’t need a whole lot of new info, but it’s still missing some details, especially from The Shadows of Self. 5. The Deepness The Deepness page is pretty complete, except for that it needs several citations. This job should be pretty easy if you have the ebooks, since you can use the word search function. 6. Kelsier’s Relationships section Despite being one of the two main characters in The Final Empire, Kelsier only has a section for Marsh in his Relationships, and nobody else. His Relationships section needs to include other characters as well, such as Vin, Dockson, and others. 7. Marsh’s Relationships section Another key figure in the Era 1 Mistborn books, Marsh is lacking a Relationships section completely. It should at least have details about his relationship with Kelsier, since there's a lot to get into there. 8. Marasi’s Relationships section Marasi is one of the four main characters in Wax and Wayne, so she’s pretty important. Her Relationships section already has Wax and Steris on there, but it would be good to have a section for Wayne, and maybe Allik. In addition, the sections for Wax and Steris need quotes. 9. Wax’s Relationships section Similar to Marasi, Wax already has a Relationships section with a few characters on there, which are all lacking quotes. In addition, it would be good to have sections for Marasi and Edwarn, Wax’s uncle. 10. MeLaan A&A and Relationships section MeLaan’s page has good History and Appearance & Personality sections, but is completely lacking Relationships and Attributes & Abilities sections. These need to be added and filled out with the necessary information. Her Relationships section would likely include Wayne, Marasi, and maybe others. What’s in it for me? We want to motivate people to help, so we will be giving out Coppermind awards for the users in the coming months with the most edits, and we'll also give out awards if you contributed to one of these items. They'll be on your user page for all to see. How do I start? The most important thing is to be bold! Content is hard to write, but we can always format your stuff if it doesn't quite match conventions. MediaWiki notation may appear scary at first, but the best way to learn is through experience. If you're interested, we have lots of guides to help: Help:Contents. It does very much help to have ebooks so you can find instances of a specific word or person. (This is extremely helpful for minor characters). If you have physical books, ask us and we can help you determine this so you don't need to reread the whole text. We can also direct you towards some good articles to use as a go-by. Come join us on the dedicated Coppermind Editing Discord, or come chat in the #coppermind channel on the 17th Shard Discord. We are really happy to help!
  16. Yes, this is likely because the dimensions are too large.
  17. I mean, that's simpler in maintenance but not in development. That's harder than it seems, and anything custom we make makes it more challenging to do software updates in the future.
  18. The very last Alcatraz vs. the Evil Librarians book, Bastille vs. the Evil Librarians, is out and the series is finally done! This is co-written by Janci Patterson and Brandon Sanderson. It's been a long road since 2007 since these started, and we've never done an Alcatraz episode on the show just due to timing. So, what did we think of this conclusion? Stay tuned to find out. This episode, we have Eric (Chaos), Ian (Weiry), and Kadie (Aon Ene)! Chapters: 00:00 Introductions 1:46 Spoiler-free Bastille Reactions 12:08 Spoilers 27:09 Characters 57:34 This is another timestamp of a bunch of other things 1:04:19 What is your Smedry Talent? If you like our content, support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/17thshard For discussion, theories, games, and news, come to https://www.17thshard.com Come talk with us and the community on the 17th Shard Discord: https://discord.gg/17thshard Want to learn more about the cosmere and more? The Coppermind Wiki is where it's at: https://coppermind.net Read all Words of Brandon on Arcanum: https://wob.coppermind.net Subscribe to Shardcast: http://feeds.soundcloud.com/users/soundcloud:users:102123174/sounds.rss Send your Who's That Cosmere Characters to [email protected]
  19. This week on SpanReads, we are discussing the cosmere implications of Shadows of Self, and ah, there's quite a bit of them! This episode, we have Mi'chelle (firstRainbowRose), Jessie (Lady Lameness), Ian (Weiry), Rosemary (Kaymyth), and Ben (Overlord Jebus)! SpanReads is a weekly series! Due to preview chapters, these will now be coming out Thursday (for real this time) for the last few weeks. Check out our 2022 schedule here: https://www.17thshard.com/news/features/were-starting-a-reread-podcast-may-4th-starting-with-mistborn-1-r819/ Thumbnail art is the Polish cover by Dominik Broniek: https://coppermind.net/wiki/File:Wax_Marasi_Dominik.jpg If you like our content, support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/17thshard For discussion, theories, games, and news, come to https://www.17thshard.com Come talk with us and the community on the 17th Shard Discord: https://discord.gg/17thshard Want to learn more about the cosmere and more? The Coppermind Wiki is where it's at: https://coppermind.net Read all Words of Brandon on Arcanum: https://wob.coppermind.net Subscribe to Shardcast: http://feeds.soundcloud.com/users/soundcloud:users:102123174/sounds.rss Send your Who's That Cosmere Characters to [email protected]
  20. Lost Metal sample chapters have begun, and so it's time for The Lost Previews to return! These will be coming out weekly. 00:00 Introductions and Summary 1:56 Chapters 3 & 4 Chapters 3 & 4 on Tor.com: https://www.tor.com/2022/09/26/read-the-lost-metal-by-brandon-sanderson-chapters-3-4/ Thumbnail image is the Spanish cover for Lost Metal: https://coppermind.net/wiki/File:TLM_ES_Cover.jpeg If you like our content, support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/17thshard For discussion, theories, games, and news, come to https://www.17thshard.com Come talk with us and the community on the 17th Shard Discord: https://discord.gg/17thshard Want to learn more about the cosmere and more? The Coppermind Wiki is where it's at: https://coppermind.net Read all Words of Brandon on Arcanum: https://wob.coppermind.net Subscribe to Shardcast: http://feeds.soundcloud.com/users/soundcloud:users:102123174/sounds.rss Send your Who's That Cosmere Characters to [email protected]
  21. It's a reasonable idea, but the upkeep on keeping that up to date sounds really intense, especially in the long run. It'd be a lot of management to sift through and determine what qualifies--to say nothing of other implementation issues.
  22. That's really not how forums work. You're fine. I'll lock it though for you.
  23. Don't use Coppermind as original research. This can be edited by anyone. We try to make it very well cited and accurate, but they themselves are not book quotes. Also, no one owns particular pages. Still, we generally do not allow speculation on the wiki, so I would not say that is appropriate.
  24. I don't think there's any reason to remove this post, to be honest. Maybe we can lock it instead? If you wish, you can use the Hide topic function, but I really don't think that's necessary.
  25. I guess I always thought it was Allrianne for some reason, but Tindwyl works too.
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