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You can, yes, but the login details are not synced because they are three completely different platforms.

Those methods won't work. Our bans ARE IP bans. As you can see, not effective. It is trivial to have basically an infinite amount of bots through any variety of IPs through a VPN. We don't have the capability in the software to do a hardware ban. It's not like it's a single computer doing this though. You will just have to report them using the Report button on a post.

This is not possible with this software.

That will be dealt with for sure, but not sure if we would call it dross necessarily. But certainly the introduction needs to be super reworked, for sure.

Don't worry about it! Again, I definitely would have replied here had I seen this. Could you perhaps expound on what you mean a bit more? I don't quite understand what specifically you're saying (other than keeping your section on the aether page). Thanks! I think that will likely happen, but it might look a bit different in practice. Surely there will be a section or subsection doing a brief overview with a "Main article" link to detail more. Totally fine! If you ever would like to, it's there. We do find it very helpful for coordination. But my post wasn't meant to be a "get on Discord" type thing, more just, "Oops, sorry I didn't see this before I did a thing."

Hi Firesong. My apologies, I had not seen your initial message here, and I would have responded first before removing that template, had I seen it. Always a bit tricky keeping attention on edits, Discord, and here. Let's talk about this. I am a bit confused as to what policy you're specifically referring to, as I'm not aware of it. From staff perspective, we have two competing move templates, one saying the aether spore stuff should be on its own page and the aether spore stuff should be on the aether page. Ultimately, we will need to adjudicate between these, right? Though I think what you're actually saying is that because the Surgebinding and Spren page look like this, aether should follow. I see the reasoning. However, I would say that those pages need a lot of work and there definitely is room for things to be split off. In regards to Surgebinding, how much should be there, versus on the Knights Radiant page, individual order pages, Fused, etc. is a fairly difficult question to structure to minimize duplication and have something sensible. Structure is definitely a thing Keepers think a lot about. Both Surgebinding and Spren are colossal projects that will take a big amount of effort to sort out. But I think you're expecting this to lead to a lot of different changes, which does not necessarily need to be the case. Each of these situations is a bit different and will need to be considered separately. There's not a coherent, specific policy that works for all pages to delineate what magic thing gets its own page or not. I think that would be impossible. So I don't think you need to worry about that in particular, but for those pages you say, indeed! There needs to be work done there. It reminds me of the Investiture page, which really should also have an Invested Art page to go along with it. These magic things are complicated to sort coherently. Structure can change as time goes on. In regards to aethers, we have a brand-new magic system that we can structure properly from the get-go, with the foreknowledge of how the last twelve years of Coppermind experience worked in regards to these magic pages, so we can build something sensible. We are currently trying to hash out this structure into something sensible, so maybe wait a little bit for us to hash that out? It's much more complicated than just aether and aether spore, too. Here are additional considerations: Primal Aethers, Silajana herself, aether moons, Luhel bond, individual aether spore sea pages. It's a web of knowledge and information that needs to be sorted. There's a ton of stuff to go on here. In particular, I imagine the main aether page, that would probably be more of a hub, which would surely talk about the primal aethers and spores, but maybe be more of a hub, and talk about cosmere-wide history/knowledge of aethers, as well as the twelve types. We don't think it would go too in-depth on the spores, because imagine a spore page. It's more than just listing the types. There is culture around the spores, technology around the spores. Sprouters, etc. That stuff is not relevant on the main aether page, which is a good reason to separate them. That core aether page is going to get very busy if we try to jam all the spore stuff, all this tech, and all the traditional aether stuff too, as I think the traditional aether stuff is going to be very extensive eventually... So... it's really quite complicated and intricate. Keepers do think it's probably better to have a separate aether spore page. I might ask you to withhold judgment to see how these pages evolve in the coming bit, and I think you might be surprised how it can diverge. I can definitely see the rationale in splitting it. In particular, Windrunner is doing extensive work on this stuff, so stay tuned. Currently there is a lot of cooks in the kitchen on a brand-new magic thing and we will need to make some executive decisions hashing through this. There's also hopefully a spoiler stream on Tress stuff that can hopefully illuminate some stuff on this strain of aethers, Midnight Essence, and more, that could inform this. I'd like to address some things in your initial post. I believe I addressed the Surgebinding and Spren page above. You're making an assumption there; I do not believe these are the same. This is true, and you are not wrong there, but there are some mechanical differences in that bonding with Primal Aethers seems much more intentional than just simply exposing to water. Definitely not an invalid point; let's see how some of Windrunner's work on the aether spore page works in practice. It may need to be renamed. I hope this helps; I do sincerely apologize for not getting to your message before. I legitimately had not seen it.

Put your full book reactions to Tress here. Cosmere spoilers are allowed in this forum!

Put any Tress typos here.

Put your full book reactions to Tress of the Emerald Sea (which is Secret Project 1) here. Note in this forum, talk about stuff in Tress only, not greater cosmere connections.

Secret Project 1 will begin going out to backers very soon, so we need some forum changes! I am hiding the title of the book, but when we make these forums, we will use the title of the book here. There will be a Secret Project 1 Only forum, which will not allow discussion of cosmere crossovers. To discuss cosmere crossovers, head on over to New Releases Cosmere Discussion, which will allow for both The Lost Metal and Secret Project 1. The previous Cosmere Secret Projects forum will be renamed to "Cosmere Secret Projects Previews" to make clear that only material from the previews (and cosmere references outside the spoiler period) is allowed there. All secret projects will receive a six month spoiler period, starting with when it comes out to backers. This should allow everyone, including people buying the non-Dragonsteel editions, enough time to read the books. As a side effect, we'll also end TLM's spoiler period a little earlier, on April 1st, when Secret Project 2 comes out, just to try and rein in the amount of forums. Lastly, we have clarified our Spoiler Policies to note that you may reference books in the spoiler period outside of their respective boards if you spoiler tag it appropriately. This has already been how we have enforced things for a while, but just clarifying the official guidelines.

Keepers are Coppermind staff. These individuals make the final call on determinations of things. These are typically members who have been in the fandom a very long time and thus are extremely cosmere knowledgeable, who have done many contributions to the wiki, and also we think would work well in a team. There is no singular way to become a Keeper, but being involved and editing is a good start! Is there something that prompts this specific question?

Unfortunately, it seems that discourse here has gotten to a place where we must close this thread. It is upsetting that people seem incapable of being respectful, despite disagreements. I would strongly recommend many of you check out our Code of Conduct: In particular, these lines seem particularly relevant: These two have been pretty consistently broken here. 17th Shard is a place for kind and respectful discussion. If you feel yourself getting upset, take breaks. Arguments on the internet are inherently unwinnable and you will not be able to convince people, regardless of how persuasive you believe yourself to be. That does not mean discussion is pointless, but you should always set your expectations anywhere on the internet. People will feel differently and come at things from different angles, and you probably won't be able to "win." Just recognize it and call it a day. We have a very good Etiquette Guide with helpful, practical advice on how to discuss things in productive ways that do not raise tension or conflict: Please note Code of Conduct violations will be addressed and repeated violations can result in many consequences, including a permanent ban. Be nice and respectful; we expect that of all of you.

There might be limits on how long a post can be, but it's very long now, to the degree that I don't know what it is. There does not exist a specialized system that does what you describe, no. People can follow you specifically, but that would show your other posts. I suppose you could put it in a Blog ( https://www.17thshard.com/forum/blogs ) but I think most people forget that's a thing, so not great for visibility. Maybe put the links to your stories in your About Me page on your profile.

Tagged spoilers are allowed.

Yep, simply report one of those posts. You don't need to report all of them, just one per offending spammer will do.

No, the digital was sold separately from the physical. Unfortunately...

Yeah, unfortunately, I don't think there's a way to do what you want that would preserve wiki links.

Well, for context, one of you in your group of friends did specifically PM me asking, which is very silly. Anyway.

This is not how moderation works, and will never be how it works. Popularity contests or campaigning for a such a thing will do absolutely nothing and actively hurt your case. Do not ever contact a mod because you want something lifted for a friend. Your input is irrelevant. If someone would like to make calls, you can apply to be a mod here: Otherwise, uh, please don't be an idiot about this. I doubt you even have much context for the events, you are just looking out for a friend, but please, this is incredibly dumb of you. Let the natural course of things happen, be mature, and be respectful.