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It's past midnight GMT, so full book discussion is allowed! Post your full book reactions for the sixth Alcatraz book, Bastille vs. The Evil Librarians here! Obviously, there will be spoilers here.

We now have a spoiler zone for Lost Metal stuff: https://www.17thshard.com/forum/forum/110-spoiler-zone/ Please remember this board is not for Lost Metal untagged spoilers.

So these have been read earlier, but sample chapters are here! https://www.tor.com/2022/09/19/read-the-lost-metal-by-brandon-sanderson-prologue-and-chapters-1-2/ Note this thread is in the Mistborn spoilers only forum. You must tag cosmere spoilers. We have another forum for cosmere spoilers as well as TLM.

Preview chapters will soon be upon us, and we're doing spoilers slightly differently than past releases. Like Rhythm of War, we have a Spoiler Zone category to collect all spoiler boards related to new cosmere releases. This category will also be used for Secret Projects, when those start coming out. This is the place where you can talk about new book stuff with no spoiler tags! Generally (with a few exceptions*), post Lost Metal stuff there. We have two new forums. One is The Lost Metal (Mistborn Spoilers only) and the other is The Lost Metal (Cosmere Spoilers). Lost Metal (Mistborn Spoilers only) has the same spoiler level as the normal Mistborn board, with Lost Metal included. This means that cross-series content must be spoiler tagged, or, for example, have a [Stormlight] tag in the title. However, you probably want to use the second board for cross-series stuff. Lost Metal (Cosmere Spoilers) has the same spoiler level as Cosmere Discussion, with Lost Metal included. That means you can talk about released cosmere things along with Lost Metal here. However, previews for upcoming cosmere content (such as SA5, or secret projects) must be spoiler tagged, or have a tag in the topic title, such as [SP1] or [SA5]. Full book spoilers will be allowed November 15th at midnight GMT. Until then, the only content allowed is on publicly available preview material. As always, no spoilers in topic titles! Please note that we have changed our spoiler period lengths. Full cosmere novels, like Lost Metal, will have a spoiler period of just six months (down from nine). *Lost Metal things could come up in the Coppermind or Arcanum boards, and that is okay.

Friends, if the topic says no spoilers, don't hint about things in the future!

Preview chapters will soon be upon us, and we're doing spoilers slightly differently than past releases. Like Rhythm of War, we have a Spoiler Zone category to collect all spoiler boards related to new cosmere releases. This category will also be used for Secret Projects, when those start coming out. This is the place where you can talk about new book stuff with no spoiler tags! Generally (with a few exceptions*), post Lost Metal stuff there. We have two new forums. One is The Lost Metal (Mistborn Spoilers only) and the other is The Lost Metal (Cosmere Spoilers). Lost Metal (Mistborn Spoilers only) has the same spoiler level as the normal Mistborn board, with Lost Metal included. This means that cross-series content must be spoiler tagged, or, for example, have a [Stormlight] tag in the title. However, you probably want to use the second board for cross-series stuff. Lost Metal (Cosmere Spoilers) has the same spoiler level as Cosmere Discussion, with Lost Metal included. That means you can talk about released cosmere things along with Lost Metal here. However, previews for upcoming cosmere content (such as SA5, or secret projects) must be spoiler tagged, or have a tag in the topic title, such as [SP1] or [SA5]. Full book spoilers will be allowed November 15th at midnight GMT. Until then, the only content allowed is on publicly available preview material. As always, no spoilers in topic titles! Please note that we have changed our spoiler period lengths. Full cosmere novels, like Lost Metal, will have a spoiler period of just six months (down from nine). *Lost Metal things could come up in the Coppermind or Arcanum boards, and that is okay.

Well, there haven't been preview chapters of this one, so not really a big deal, but to be clear: no full book spoilers on Bastille until midnight GMT September 20th. That is, for US folks, September 19th 5pm Pacific / 8pm Eastern. Some folks have already received their books, so just hold in those thoughts a bit longer until then!

For Brandon merch, General Brandon Discussion. Non-Brandon, I'd use General Discussion.

Today soon! Right now! Record time, honestly. This has been a thing we have not had a standard policy about, which has led to inconsistent guidance over the years, and this has come up more and more these days. We needed a coherent policy. We are very concerned with scalping, scammers, and the safety of our members. Moderating transactions is quite an undertaking, and will get more challenging with time. Obviously, most people likely just want to give merch to a community, which we understand. However, ultimately, we decided it would be too challenging to guarantee the safety of our members. As such, our policy from now on will be not allow selling of products like this. Sorry! This will get an official announcement and specific language in our rules soon (this week, maybe), but we didn't want to leave you hanging.

Hi there. We are currently creating policy to deal with this situation, so please stand by. This should be done fairly soon, though.

Quote boxes are also considered links, unfortunately. This won't affect you anymore though.

I removed it, you can edit of course but now you can repost it. Also, you're banned for using Stormlight Wiki instead of the Coppermind! (Just kidding! Kind of.)

Hi, the 17th Shard Discussion board is for discussing website-related issues. You want the book discussion boards. I have moved this to the Stormlight board.

Is it? The link in this article redirects appropriately for me.

Which link specifically are you using here? You can use discord.gg/17thshard now. If you clicked some links in this thread, note the last post is two years old. The link in the overflow menu on the site does work as well, as I just verified.

1. To me it seems like a big claim that living forever would be good. At least in Christian circles it feels like, "oh, because you're with God and God is good, this will be good." I don't know. I've seen too many sci-fi/fantasy stories about the problems with immortality to desire it. Secondly, I think things should in fact end. I definitively do not want to exist forever. The possibility of existing forever in some other place, to me, feels like things matter less in this world. But it's great to stop existing eventually, surely? What's to say ten trillion years from now you don't just desperately want things to end? 2. Hmmmm... one is not coming to mind. He was great insulting Ruthar. I have trouble remembering specific lines. 3. I'm not quite sure what you mean by this. Like how? I guess so? 4. I can't say I'd ever deliberately watch or play any sport. Watching American football is okay and I wouldn't totally hate it. But my general sports enthusiasm is essentially nothing. I was at some teaching training days at my college I work at, and people were just so excited for the college sports team. That's great and all, but I would say my excitement on a 0 to 10 scale is at a firm 0. When Hearthstone esports was bigger, I watched a lot of that, though, so I see the appeal somewhat. But I can't say I'd even watch the Olympics. 5. Night, let's say. 6. Man, most book settings are terrible though! 7. I'm on a bit of a kick on watching YouTube videos on the historical Jesus (that is, what the early Jesus definitely said) and early Christianity currently. Assuming I spoke and understood perfect Aramaic and could understand the cultural context of the time effectively, I would be very interested in hearing what the actual Jesus believed himself to be, and not what people after his death ascribed him to be. If you're interested in early Christianity and New Testament history, Dr. Bart Ehrman is incredibly interesting and has a YouTube channel with a huge amount of talks he has given. It's very fascinating seeing this text in a more historical context rather than a religious context. Probably interesting for both Christians and non-Christians! I had no idea the gospels were written decades after Jesus's death, in Greek (not Aramaic which Jesus and the apostles would have spoke) and that we have no copies or fragments of them until the second century (and very limited ones at that). Though honestly I had no idea that Mark (who wrote the earliest of the gospels) was not one of the apostles. Very interesting!