Elandera she/her Posted May 23, 2019 Posted May 23, 2019 Alright, time for an information dump of sorts. My top suspects right now are Coop and Steel, and I'm leaning toward them being Mistborn, though it's possible they're elims. You see, I'm a Rioter 1. Before the Rae lynch was solidified, I attempted to Riot Coop's vote from CadCom to Rae. I never felt the need to change the order, as manipulation became irrelevant. As everyone pointed out, the only change in the vote count was Lum's vote being apparently Soothed. Additionally, I was notified that my attempt to Riot the vote failed due to Coop's vote being Smoked. Additionally, this makes me suspect the Soothing on Lum was more a result of her vote on Coop than her vote on Mailliw. With some nighttime PMs, I was able to obtain information that Steel was the one who likely Smoked Coop. This throws up a lot of red flags for me, especially since Xino flipped as a Smoker 1. While it's possible there are multiple roles among the village, I can also see this role as having one each side along with the random chance Vin can draw it. Having more than 3 people any given turn that can smoke is a bit OP. Thus, I'm going to start with Steel. There's the possibility he was attempting to frame Coop, which is why I'm more willing to lynch Steel at this point. I see him having a higher chance at being Mistborn/elim. 3
Mailliw73 he/him Posted May 23, 2019 Posted May 23, 2019 To that person with whom I had talked about this day's voting, I forgot that I wouldn't be able to use the PM anymore to let you know. I'll use the system Ada had in another game. Using the false PM's first message, each letter's placement in the message corresponds to the number on the player list. If the message were "Hello there, friend", H would symbolize Maill, being the first letter in the message and Maill being the first on the player list. For now, I'm thinking L. I will let you know if it changes. Rath. There's been suspicions rampant about you, yet nothing has ever stuck long enough to put pressure on you. You're floating right around the spot on my suspicion list that I want to get more out of you.
Furamirionind They/Any/All Posted May 23, 2019 Posted May 23, 2019 Ok, so I believe my test over this past turn to be successful. I didnt get the result I wanted, but I got info. I am tired and lazy so I am just going to use the same code/system Maill used. (The first message in our PM, starting from the second line.) Because I am really tired and lazy, this message will also be to the same recipient of Maill's message. : P (unless I am just an idiot... which isnt out of the question xD) This test is not 100% foolproof. However, I think it was good enough to clear "i" and "k". My next suspects are "t", "v", and "d" (the "d" that is alive, obviously.)
Amanuensis he/him Posted May 23, 2019 Posted May 23, 2019 7 hours ago, Rathmaskal said: I'm not sure I see why that's suspicious. I was (I believe) the second-to-last person to post...and I poke-voted the only person who hadn't posted yet. Oh well. For the reasons I brought up yesterday, Straw Honestly it's nothing damning. Villagers do it too. But given your placement on the Rae bandy, I could see it being another piece of evidence toward you not seeking elims (due to being one yourself). I also automatically assume every Straw lynch ends in him being a villager, so that's not really helping my feelings toward you, either . That said, I'll go ahead and read all your posts before I vote. Going to see if I can have another game of voting on elims only (Zane and Vin included). 5 hours ago, Mailliw73 said: To that person with whom I had talked about this day's voting, I forgot that I wouldn't be able to use the PM anymore to let you know. I'll use the system Ada had in another game. Using the false PM's first message, each letter's placement in the message corresponds to the number on the player list. If the message were "Hello there, friend", H would symbolize Maill, being the first letter in the message and Maill being the first on the player list. For now, I'm thinking L. I will let you know if it changes. Rath. There's been suspicions rampant about you, yet nothing has ever stuck long enough to put pressure on you. You're floating right around the spot on my suspicion list that I want to get more out of you. Heh. Mostly quoting this because I like how that system is being used. Makes me feel like I've had a lasting impact Also: (1) Straw: Rathmaskal, (2) Rathmaskal: Steeldancer, Mailliw73, (1) Steeldancer: Elandera,
Hemalurgic Headshot he/him Posted May 23, 2019 Posted May 23, 2019 I'm sad that Stink is dead. I enjoyed our PM. Joe's message confirms many of the suspicions I had about his abilities. If Elandera is a Rioter, Rae is dead, the remaining possible situations for my hypothesis to work is if CadCom or Rath is an Elim Tineye 2. Given the results of the Rae lynch, which seemed to me like an attempt to divert attention away from CadCom, I would be more inclined to say that he is the evil one of the two. However, I realize that there are several flaws in my hypothesis. The most glaring is that Bard's death, the centerpiece of this whole thing, was implied to be the work of the Mistborn. So, the Elims didn't kill Bard, and it wasn't an Elim Tineye voting for him. If this was the Mistborn's work, the odds of this playing out like I suppose become much slimmer. Vin would have to have chanced upon Tineye 2 D1, cast a vote out on Bard, then Zane offed him in the Night. Because there are only two Mistborn, a concerted effort to move the lynch from CadCom and onto Rae would be more indicative of Elims. Meaning, of the two suspects, CadCom and Rath, Rath is more likely to be a Mistborn (under the stars' alignment). That being said, CadCom is under suspicion as an Elim, yet I feel that Mistborn should be the Village's primary target.
CadCom he/him Posted May 23, 2019 Posted May 23, 2019 Currently, there are 15 people left in the game, and we are losing people at the rate of three people per cycle (one to the lynch, and two to night kills. Essentially the only way to slow that amount long-term is to Kill Zane. However, he is also a thug 2, which makes it take us twice as long to kill him. That makes it so that of the mistborn, Zane is the more important one to kill. At the rate of three people per cycle, that makes not lynching Elend harder and harder. I think that there are either 4 elims, or three elims, with one having thug 2. However, either way, I think that at the time of rollover, there will rarely be more than 3 eliminators on at a time, just due to the possibility of time restraints. Assuming all of them have voted on the same person, which is also unlikely, we need to have at least 6 people on a single person to avoid a possible elim hammer. I would say that for now, 6 is the safe number, however, with less and less people, that is getting harder and harder. Killing one eliminator can help us to lengthen the game as well. I want to go through Bard's and Xino's posts to determine their suspicions, as I feel that the mistborn could be eliminating people who found them slightly suspicious, so that'll be next on my to-do list, and then I'll vote.
Furamirionind They/Any/All Posted May 23, 2019 Posted May 23, 2019 12 hours ago, Rathmaskal said: I'm not sure I see why that's suspicious. I was (I believe) the second-to-last person to post...and I poke-voted the only person who hadn't posted yet. Oh well. For the reasons I brought up yesterday, Straw This is a fine first post, but Straw hasnt been in-thread much. Though I think I have seen him on between most rollovers. Anyway, your reasoning D2 seemed mostly gut based to me. Is that still the same, or do you have analysis that can support your suspicion? Gut reads can be good, but by D3, I think we should be mostly past that. 11 hours ago, Steeldancer said: Alright then. Xinoehp. Fascinating. Well, first thing I’m going to do is Rath . From the PMs I received, you are by far the most suspect individual still alive (other than maybe myself. But I have a mistborn to lynch before I get lynched). I haven’t busied myself with analysis on anything other than serial killer analysis, but if that many people think Rath is a good kill, I think we outta do it. That should free me up for the rest of the turn to do some analysis on Xinoehps kill, which a few people expressed suspicion of Xinoehp in their PMs to me (thank you for those who did that. Ironically, the one person who refused to give me their suspicions, Stink, died. Others of you just didn’t get around to it, which in and of itself is indicative of less suspicious behavior.) Currently my top candidate for Vin is Lum, but my focus will of course be on Zane. I told Mailliw last night that I might be able to figure Zane out by day 4. With the kill on Xinoehp, well, I think I’ll be able to make some significant progress tomorrow. Oh and finally, thank you joe for clearing things up. I myself am more interested in Zane dying first, so I think our goals align there. Now I should go to bed about now, so I’ll be back with a boatload of PM analysis and whatnot tomorrow morning. Um, I dont really understand what you are saying here. I bolded the parts I would specifically like explained. Especially as Lum isnt Vin. 10 hours ago, Elandera said: Alright, time for an information dump of sorts. My top suspects right now are Coop and Steel, and I'm leaning toward them being Mistborn, though it's possible they're elims. You see, I'm a Rioter 1. Before the Rae lynch was solidified, I attempted to Riot Coop's vote from CadCom to Rae. I never felt the need to change the order, as manipulation became irrelevant. As everyone pointed out, the only change in the vote count was Lum's vote being apparently Soothed. Additionally, I was notified that my attempt to Riot the vote failed due to Coop's vote being Smoked. Additionally, this makes me suspect the Soothing on Lum was more a result of her vote on Coop than her vote on Mailliw. With some nighttime PMs, I was able to obtain information that Steel was the one who likely Smoked Coop. This throws up a lot of red flags for me, especially since Xino flipped as a Smoker 1. While it's possible there are multiple roles among the village, I can also see this role as having one each side along with the random chance Vin can draw it. Having more than 3 people any given turn that can smoke is a bit OP. Thus, I'm going to start with Steel. There's the possibility he was attempting to frame Coop, which is why I'm more willing to lynch Steel at this point. I see him having a higher chance at being Mistborn/elim. I dont get this either. So ... Ok, I just spent 20-30 minutes rewriting your post in my own words, and then pointing out my issues with it. But I think I actually understand it now, so I dont need that anymore. I think you might think Smoking Coop would stop Lum's Tineye read. If Smoking stopped Tineyes as well, suddenly this analysis makes a ton of sense. If you do realize that, then I guess I will post my thing rephrasing your words, and i will need you to explain your post again. 5 hours ago, Adavantos said: I also automatically assume every Straw lynch ends in him being a villager... Has Straw never been an elim, or... what? 4 hours ago, Hemalurgic Headshot said: I'm sad that Stink is dead. I enjoyed our PM. Joe's message confirms many of the suspicions I had about his abilities. If Elandera is a Rioter, Rae is dead, the remaining possible situations for my hypothesis to work is if CadCom or Rath is an Elim Tineye 2. Given the results of the Rae lynch, which seemed to me like an attempt to divert attention away from CadCom, I would be more inclined to say that he is the evil one of the two. However, I realize that there are several flaws in my hypothesis. The most glaring is that Bard's death, the centerpiece of this whole thing, was implied to be the work of the Mistborn. So, the Elims didn't kill Bard, and it wasn't an Elim Tineye voting for him. If this was the Mistborn's work, the odds of this playing out like I suppose become much slimmer. Vin would have to have chanced upon Tineye 2 D1, cast a vote out on Bard, then Zane offed him in the Night. Because there are only two Mistborn, a concerted effort to move the lynch from CadCom and onto Rae would be more indicative of Elims. Meaning, of the two suspects, CadCom and Rath, Rath is more likely to be a Mistborn (under the stars' alignment). That being said, CadCom is under suspicion as an Elim, yet I feel that Mistborn should be the Village's primary target. I dont know. This idea seems pretty convoluted to me. My main issue with it, is you assume there is another Tineye 2 in this game. There was only one in LG53, and similarly I think there will be only 1 this game. There could be 2, but that would make whoever gets it really powerful. If it is village or elims, as it would allow finding the Mistborn easily. If there is a second Tineye, I think they should claim tonight as then we should have 7 people cleared from being Mistborn. Your next assumption is whoever killed Bard also voted on him. My problem with this, is Bard was the counter lynch to Araris. This Tineye wouldnt vote on Bard if they thought he might die. There were 5 single votes on someone D1. If you are looking for a tineye, that's the most likely place. ________________________ I liked Maill's and CadCom's posts so far. Contingent on more info forthcoming from them. Granted, both the posts I list as decent today are Hello World posts. Today's kill targets seem quite helpful for analysis. Both seem a bit out of place to me. I was going to do a more original post on top of this, but I have spent 2 hours on this, and have a lot to do today.
Coop772 Posted May 23, 2019 Posted May 23, 2019 That is very good information to have Elandera, Steel, would you like to explain why you decided to smoke me of your own free will, or should I gather the pitchforks? Also, who else's vote did you manipulate?
Rathmaskal he/him Posted May 23, 2019 Posted May 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, Furamirionind said: This is a fine first post, but Straw hasnt been in-thread much. Though I think I have seen him on between most rollovers. ... Has Straw never been an elim, or... what? ... OK, I'll address both of these at once. I believe the only time I've seen Straw as an elim was my first game as SE (LG46). And Straw acted a lot like this - basically being a bit around, but never quite committing to anything. Once I finally cracked that Straw was an elim that game, I was fighting for my life - Straw was the other likely lynch candidate so I actually took a look to see whether or not that was a valid lynch or not.\ Here's a summary of Straw's activity this game: D1 poke vote (On Stick funnily enough. I really, really want someone to start playing SE with the name "Brick"...but I'm sure that joke has already been used in several forms, so I'm not going to push it :P) D1 retract poke vote D1 vote on Araris and rather got that train going - at that point Araris had one vote and wasn't really in danger. After this, Araris obviously ballooned out be lynched. N1 game mechanic question D2 noted mist message D2 asked if Joe's role showed up as Kelsier D2 vote on Coop - doesn't really have any suspicions at this point D2 defends vote on Coop because it would give us a lot of information on Lum and Joe D2 defends against my comment pointing out the lack of content in 'nothing standing out' D2 retracts from Coop *Ends D2 without a vote on anyone* N2 asks about Steel's double post (Coops ninjaed somewhere in there) Basically what I'm getting at is that Straw has been around plenty but refuses to commit to anything other than the original Araris train.
Stick. she/her Posted May 23, 2019 Posted May 23, 2019 (edited) 54 minutes ago, Furamirionind said: I think you might think Smoking Coop would stop Lum's Tineye read. If Smoking stopped Tineyes as well, suddenly this analysis makes a ton of sense. If you do realize that, then I guess I will post my thing rephrasing your words, and i will need you to explain your post again. I think she means that Coop’s vote being protected (smoked) is something that makes her suspicious of Coop in and of itself. In addition to that, she believes that the soothe was meant to prevent Lum from tineye-ing Coop because she apparently has info that points towards steel being the one that smoked coop, possibly meaning that something’s going on between the two. If they’re evil, preventing Lum from uncovering Coop’s role would be a priority. At least that’s what I understood from her post ^ anyway, I think I understand the steel lynch, but I’m gonna vote for Rath because of the reasons I outlined last night. I’m gonna think about the steel lynch some more, though. Might change my mind. Edit: Quote Adavantos: I also automatically assume every Straw lynch ends in him being a villager I feel this. XD Edited May 23, 2019 by _Stick_
CadCom he/him Posted May 23, 2019 Posted May 23, 2019 (edited) 13 hours ago, Elandera said: Alright, time for an information dump of sorts. My top suspects right now are Coop and Steel, and I'm leaning toward them being Mistborn, though it's possible they're elims. You see, I'm a Rioter 1. Before the Rae lynch was solidified, I attempted to Riot Coop's vote from CadCom to Rae. I never felt the need to change the order, as manipulation became irrelevant. As everyone pointed out, the only change in the vote count was Lum's vote being apparently Soothed. Additionally, I was notified that my attempt to Riot the vote failed due to Coop's vote being Smoked. Additionally, this makes me suspect the Soothing on Lum was more a result of her vote on Coop than her vote on Mailliw. With some nighttime PMs, I was able to obtain information that Steel was the one who likely Smoked Coop. This throws up a lot of red flags for me, especially since Xino flipped as a Smoker 1. While it's possible there are multiple roles among the village, I can also see this role as having one each side along with the random chance Vin can draw it. Having more than 3 people any given turn that can smoke is a bit OP. Thus, I'm going to start with Steel. There's the possibility he was attempting to frame Coop, which is why I'm more willing to lynch Steel at this point. I see him having a higher chance at being Mistborn/elim. I was reviewing Bard and Xino and wasn't really getting anywhere. Looking at Stink could be interesting though, so I'll try that later. First I want to address this post. I really like it. Possibly more than Fura liked my post I definitely agree with a lot of the analysis in this post. I want to try to offer more thoughts on it. But all of what I'm making is based on Coop being Steels teammate. Xino said they trusted me, so and voted on someone other than me, and they are village, so it's unlikely that Xino is the one that smoked coop's vote, so it couldn't be manipulated from me, which does make it seem more likely that it was someone else, thus increasing the likelihood that it is Steel . Now, what I'm having trouble agreeing with is the part about the soothing on Lum. Originally I thought that the soothing could have likely been to stop from finding out the identity of an elim or mistborn, and my primary candidate was soothed lum to stop reveal on Maill. Now we've got more information out though. Smoker 1 is a role that vin can have. Steel admitted to not being able to get on for the rest of the cycle. At the time they that was said, Coop had 2 votes on him, just like me. He was in a real position to be lynched. One of those votes was Lum. So Steel could have smoked Coop's vote, suggesting that Steel is Vin, and that's all they could do to hopefully help the lynch. Then when Coop got on, he would have soothed Lum due to his vote(He would have to be Zane) *stick ninja'd me here* Coop's last post was before Lum changed his vote though, so it would make sense to soothe Lum's vote. It would have been a better option than mine since lum is a scan role. Steel can still understandibly be mad at a Rae lynch, if they believed Rae to be village, because the mistborns want the elims killed. 1 hour ago, Coop772 said: That is very good information to have Elandera, Steel, would you like to explain why you decided to smoke me of your own free will, or should I gather the pitchforks? Also, who else's vote did you manipulate? This sounds just like Zane. Ruin is whispering in his ear to abandon Vin for his own survival now.Coop Edit: Depending on the vote trends, I will likely switch to Steel. As I believe the case against Steel is a stronger case, But I believe Coop is Zane now, so, that's why I've voted for Coop. Additionally, I think it could be wise to keep Vin alive for at least a little bit, because she will still want to kill Lekal's subordinates, and would therefore, be able to help us locate them with her powers. Edited May 23, 2019 by Cadmium Compounder
Furamirionind They/Any/All Posted May 23, 2019 Posted May 23, 2019 My issue with Coop being Zane, is the main arguement for him being Zane is... Honestly idk. You are all assuming he is Zane, and then justifying your assumptions with little things he does. Coop's first post of the game was Day 2. If you still think he is Zane, who submitted the second kill N1?
Coop772 Posted May 23, 2019 Posted May 23, 2019 Oh. Whoops. Probably should have prefaced my joke with the fact that it was just a joke. I'm not Zane, just figured it'd be a funny bit.
Furamirionind They/Any/All Posted May 23, 2019 Posted May 23, 2019 1 minute ago, Coop772 said: Oh. Whoops. Probably should have prefaced my joke with the fact that it was just a joke. I'm not Zane, just figured it'd be a funny bit. What joke? Where do you say you are Zane?
CadCom he/him Posted May 23, 2019 Posted May 23, 2019 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Furamirionind said: My issue with Coop being Zane, is the main arguement for him being Zane is... Honestly idk. You are all assuming he is Zane, and then justifying your assumptions with little things he does. Coop's first post of the game was Day 2. If you still think he is Zane, who submitted the second kill N1? This is a fair point, and one that I considered. I just forgot to bring it up when I actually wrote my post, so thank's for bringing it up. I ended up telling myself that it's possible that they got on just to put in the kill, and didn't post, due to time restraints. That is also one of the main reasons that I said that the case against steel is a bit stronger, however, it's more likely that if they are a mistborn, that they are vin. (that must be a confusing character ark.) That seems to be the reason Elandera voted steel. However, I chose to go with the less probable, but higher potential payoff option. @Furamirionind, what are your thoughts on the steel lynch after I shared my thoughts? I see after Elandera's thoughts that you are confused, but do my thoughts on the issue change anything for you? Edit: I guess I should correct my last statement. *You are unsure if you are interpreting it the way Elandera intended to get across. Edited May 23, 2019 by Cadmium Compounder
Coop772 Posted May 23, 2019 Posted May 23, 2019 My joke of threatening Steel with pitchforks. Was purely meant in fun
Rathmaskal he/him Posted May 23, 2019 Posted May 23, 2019 OK, I know this is kind of a long shot to convince people of my theory, but here's my (admittedly sophomoric) analysis of elim.Straw in said game where I was village: I know we're nowhere near the cycle that game was in at that point, so the vote analysis can't quite match that, but the activity from Straw seems rather similar this game. Again, in that game I hadn't considered Straw as really suspect until I was required to defend myself from the lynch vote again. I may be tunneling a bit at this point, but this is screaming at me this game. If I can't get a Straw lynch going, obviously I'm going to have to go into self-preservation mode later in the cycle. :/ Just now, Coop772 said: My joke of threatening Steel with pitchforks. Was purely meant in fun I figured you were claiming village (village...pitchforks...)
CadCom he/him Posted May 23, 2019 Posted May 23, 2019 1 minute ago, Coop772 said: My joke of threatening Steel with pitchforks. Was purely meant in fun That threat-joke felt more of a town style threat-joke, not a Zane style threat-joke. A Zane style threat-joke would be more like "Or should I gather my coin sacs?" My argument that I made on you from that post was due to the fact that you were voting on steel at all, not with the joke you made at the end. I'll admit it was completely ikyk, because a village Coop would do the same thing as what I suggested the Mistborn coop would have done. However, your reaction after I brought it up has made me a bit more suspicious of you. So if anyone else soothed Lum, it would be good to come forward now to claim. Or if anyone else smoked Coop as well. I don't doubt Elandera's claim, however, It would be good to verify the source of the information that she got. Luckily this is happening early in the cycle, so hopefully if something needs to come up, it has plenty of time to do so. *ninja'd by rath*
Rathmaskal he/him Posted May 23, 2019 Posted May 23, 2019 Current vote count: Straw (1) - Rath Rath (4) - Steel, Maill, HH, Stick Steel (2) - Elandera, Coop Coop (1) - CadCom Quick observation: it was kind of funny that I voted...then got voted on by Steel...who promptly got voted on by Elandera... Unfortunately the train stopped there...but it was funny while it lasted.
Steeldancer he/him Posted May 23, 2019 Posted May 23, 2019 15 hours ago, Elandera said: Alright, time for an information dump of sorts. My top suspects right now are Coop and Steel, and I'm leaning toward them being Mistborn, though it's possible they're elims. You see, I'm a Rioter 1. Before the Rae lynch was solidified, I attempted to Riot Coop's vote from CadCom to Rae. I never felt the need to change the order, as manipulation became irrelevant. As everyone pointed out, the only change in the vote count was Lum's vote being apparently Soothed. Additionally, I was notified that my attempt to Riot the vote failed due to Coop's vote being Smoked. Additionally, this makes me suspect the Soothing on Lum was more a result of her vote on Coop than her vote on Mailliw. With some nighttime PMs, I was able to obtain information that Steel was the one who likely Smoked Coop. This throws up a lot of red flags for me, especially since Xino flipped as a Smoker 1. While it's possible there are multiple roles among the village, I can also see this role as having one each side along with the random chance Vin can draw it. Having more than 3 people any given turn that can smoke is a bit OP. Thus, I'm going to start with Steel. There's the possibility he was attempting to frame Coop, which is why I'm more willing to lynch Steel at this point. I see him having a higher chance at being Mistborn/elim. Well I don't see much reason to hide my role given the circumstances. I am indeed a smoker 1. I was kind of dumb with my smoking last turn, I really should have smoked Lumgol, but I didn't think about the possibility that her vote could be soothed. I clouded Coop and someone else, I can't remember off the top of my head, in order to help solidify the lynch on CadCom, which was the dominating lynch at the time I went to work. That's more or less what I've been trying to do with my role, make the main lynch stronger so the elims can't manipulate it I primarily just picked the first two people from the thread who had voted on CadCom. I claimed to Maill, because I was kind of frustrated about my role at the time (and honestly still am. The weakest role in the game *sigh*). I've also told him exactly who I clouded both turns. Also, do you realize how silly it would be to attempt to frame Coop by clouding him? What in the world? The only way he could be framed would then be if someone attempted to manipulate his vote. The chances of that happening to a single individual are low, and as such, it just sounds like a lot of effort all to have a slight possibility of throwing suspicion on Coop. Which, I have no incentive to do. Anyway, I can prove I'm not Vin pretty easily. I can cloud someone's vote again, and you can see they're clouded again. And regarding roles, well, I know I'm village. So clearly there are multiple village Smoker 1s. I wasn't too shocked when Xino came up Smoker 1, I just figure the elims have some vote manipulation. And no. I'm not pulling a long con. If I were the serial killer... well I wouldn't be so tense about figuring out who Zane is. I would be a lot more lazy. That or I just wouldn't do what I'm doing at all. As it happens, Elandera, you're one of my top candidates for Zane atm. I need to go get my actual analysis done, but I have a list of a few individuals I currently suspect of being Zane. I'm going to go cross reference it with what people said in PMs, and if I'm remembering off the top of my head correctly, Elandera fit the bill for suspecting Xino.
CadCom he/him Posted May 23, 2019 Posted May 23, 2019 @Mailliw73, can you confirm what steeldancer said? Has he told you both cycles who he has smoked?
Elandera she/her Posted May 23, 2019 Posted May 23, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, Furamirionind said: I dont get this either. So ... Ok, I just spent 20-30 minutes rewriting your post in my own words, and then pointing out my issues with it. But I think I actually understand it now, so I dont need that anymore. I think you might think Smoking Coop would stop Lum's Tineye read. If Smoking stopped Tineyes as well, suddenly this analysis makes a ton of sense. If you do realize that, then I guess I will post my thing rephrasing your words, and i will need you to explain your post again. Sorry if that was confusing. I'm saying Coop was Smoked and Lum was Soothed. With the knowledge Coop was Smoked, I believe Lum was Soothed to prevent an alignment read on Coop, rather than an alignment read on Mailliw. With the information Steel was the one to Smoke Coop, it means either that they are a team, or that someone is trying to frame Coop. Either way, it suggests Steel has an anti-village alignment of some kind. (Ninja'd by Steel) 15 minutes ago, Steeldancer said: Well I don't see much reason to hide my role given the circumstances. I am indeed a smoker 1. I was kind of dumb with my smoking last turn, I really should have smoked Lumgol, but I didn't think about the possibility that her vote could be soothed. I clouded Coop and someone else, I can't remember off the top of my head, in order to help solidify the lynch on CadCom, which was the dominating lynch at the time I went to work. That's more or less what I've been trying to do with my role, make the main lynch stronger so the elims can't manipulate it I primarily just picked the first two people from the thread who had voted on CadCom. I claimed to Maill, because I was kind of frustrated about my role at the time (and honestly still am. The weakest role in the game *sigh*). I've also told him exactly who I clouded both turns. Also, do you realize how silly it would be to attempt to frame Coop by clouding him? What in the world? The only way he could be framed would then be if someone attempted to manipulate his vote. The chances of that happening to a single individual are low, and as such, it just sounds like a lot of effort all to have a slight possibility of throwing suspicion on Coop. Which, I have no incentive to do. Anyway, I can prove I'm not Vin pretty easily. I can cloud someone's vote again, and you can see they're clouded again. And regarding roles, well, I know I'm village. So clearly there are multiple village Smoker 1s. I wasn't too shocked when Xino came up Smoker 1, I just figure the elims have some vote manipulation. And no. I'm not pulling a long con. If I were the serial killer... well I wouldn't be so tense about figuring out who Zane is. I would be a lot more lazy. That or I just wouldn't do what I'm doing at all. As it happens, Elandera, you're one of my top candidates for Zane atm. I need to go get my actual analysis done, but I have a list of a few individuals I currently suspect of being Zane. I'm going to go cross reference it with what people said in PMs, and if I'm remembering off the top of my head correctly, Elandera fit the bill for suspecting Xino. Regarding your argument that the CadCom lynch was dominating: Quote Maill (1) - STINK Rae (1) - Steel Coop (2) - Lum, Rath CadCom (2) - Maill, Fura That was the vote count just two posts before your "I won't be back on" post. I'd hardly say the CadCom lynch was dominating, since the last vote was on Coop to make everything a tie. Anyone on that list was well within range. And now that I look at it, Coop hadn't even voted yet. He didn't vote for another hour and a half after your last post. Additionally, I'm not set on you both being Mistborn. I also think it's likely you could be an elim. But your argument so far has done nothing but really solidify in my mind that you're suspect. 4 minutes ago, Steeldancer said: Ah it was HH. I clouded Coop and HH. Again. Someone who hadn't even voted when you were supposedly last online. Also, my suspicions I listed to you were Coop, Mailliw, and yourself. Xino hadn't even crossed my radar yet this game. EDIT: Also, I had specifically told you I wasn't going to list any elim suspects, since I suspected you of being Mistborn at the time. Edited May 23, 2019 by Elandera 2
Steeldancer he/him Posted May 23, 2019 Posted May 23, 2019 Right... then I must have submitted the action during my break. Thus why I chose the first people I saw that had voted on CadCom.
Stick. she/her Posted May 23, 2019 Posted May 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, Steeldancer said: Right... then I must have submitted the action during my break. Thus why I chose the first people I saw that had voted on CadCom. Quote Steel N2: Maybe because I went to work? I didn't figure a lynch on Rae was going to happen when I went to work. When I got back, the turn was over. I guess the Rath lynch can wait Steel
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